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Leftists, Ask Yourselves: ‘Should I Stay or Should I Go?'

  

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Via:  xxjefferson51  •  7 years ago  •  38 comments

Leftists, Ask Yourselves: ‘Should I Stay or Should I Go?'
Since the left views Donald Trump as Hitler and the Republican Party – currently dominant in Congress and the majority of statehouses­ – as accomplices in his fascist tyranny, the existential question each liberal-progressive ought to be asking himself is the very question a punk rock band made famous as the refrain of their most popular tune.

The lyrics of The Clash's 1982 song "Should I Stay or Should I Go" reflect the singer's indecisiveness about whether he should remain in a relationship with a woman who today entices him and tomorrow plays hard to get. "One day it's fine, and next it's black," sings Mick Jones of his mercurial muse, "so if you want me off your back, well, come on and let me know: should I stay or should I go?" Considering founding member Joe Strummer's overtly leftist politics, the band could hardly have anticipated that their song, whose content is no more serious than an adolescent romance, would now serve as a metaphor for progressives and their love-hate relationship with the United States.


The question as to why liberals simply do not pack up and leave the United States has been on my mind, particularly after a recent conversation with a self-proclaimed "bleeding heart" fellow congregant at my church, who looked at me venomously when I told him I consider myself a constitutionalist. His offense was all the greater because my wife is black.

"The Founding Fathers presided over one of the greatest crimes against humanity in history," said the chap regarding American slavery, and "the Constitution made blacks three fifths of a person." With these arguments, he intended to shame me into rejecting my affinity for the Constitution because, in his view, anyone sympathetic to the plight of blacks in this country – particularly a white man married to a black woman – would surely look on the founding of the USA with disgust.

My immediate response was that America's transcendent, foundational ideas – that all people are created equal with natural rights and that limited government with separated powers is the best means devised by mankind so far of protecting those rights – could not be invalidated either by my wife's ethnicity or the fact that among the Founders were slaveholders. Then I began to explain the Three-Fifths Clause as a device to curb the power of the slaveholding states, but my interlocutor's brief tolerance for such political incorrectness wore out before I could conclude my thoughts. He cut me off, self-righteously saying: "I'm an attorney, and I've heard all these arguments. I don't need you to tell me anything more." The possibility of productive dialogue between us thus ended.

My nagging thought after this conversation was, if my co-religionist has so much disdain for the U.S. Constitution and so little interest in hearing opinions in favor of it, why in the world would he – and by extension, so many like-minded statists – want to continue living in so hellish a place, governed by a corrupt document and populated by tens of millions who actually cherish it?

Perhaps America's Jacobins stay in this country because they enjoy the freedom of speech protected in the very Constitution they vigorously disdain. Yet instead of expressing gratitude for this liberty, they use it to shout down opposing viewpoints. They contemplate aloud bombing the Trump White House, make constant counter-factual pronouncements that Islam is a religion of peace, and linguistically manipulate people into believing that individuals with male genitalia ought to be allowed unimpeded opportunities to relieve themselves in the women's restroom. Conversely, they detest any idea that does not jibe with their worldview, and they have little self-control in their heavy-handed efforts to stop their opposition from exercising their free speech rights.

The left wants unrestricted free choice regarding whether a baby in the womb lives or dies, but it reviles anyone who wishes to have the freedom of choice to select his own health insurance or where to send his children to school. Leftists express consternation at the plight of the poor, but they give far less charitably to the indigent than do conservatives, and in fact, they prefer to have the strong arm of the government steal from the taxpayers to redistribute money to those whom they themselves do precious little to assist. The Tenth Amendment has wonderful appeal to the neo-Confederates in the sanctuary jurisdictions that reject federal immigration law, but when Arizona attempted to follow that law, as in the case of S.B. 1070 some years ago, the left developed a selective amnesia about the Bill of Rights and fought the Grand Canyon State all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court.

One can only wonder why progressives bother to stay in a country where they have lost thousands of legislative seats nationally since 2010 and have seen their presidential messiah replaced not by their exalted female demigod, but by an openly flawed, crude, Caucasian, heterosexual, and pro-Christian capitalist with no political experience. Progressives see inequality, injustice, anti-minority racism, misogyny, and oppression of LGBTQ persons every day, all the time in the United States, and they make their disgust with these perceived offenses known loudly through protests, riots, civil unrest, and unhinged interviews with an incredulous Tucker Carlson

To our geographic north lies a European-style welfare state that spends about 35 percent of its federal budget annually on elderly programs, children's services, and health care, and to the south one encounters a Latin American kleptocrat paradise where the only white Anglo-Saxon Protestants to be found are tourists spending their filthy lucre at beach resorts staffed by the downtrodden brown people of the Estados Unidos Mexicanos. What exactly is keeping American lefties from thumbing a ride to Toronto or Tijuana and asking the nice socialists across the border for political asylum?

Progressives have patience only with those who share their opinions, and in their haughtiness, they believe themselves justified in employing the heckler's veto and in thrusting their ideas on everyone around them. Yet despite having cultural control through the universities, the entertainment industry, and the mainstream media for more than half a century, they have been unable to convert enough Americans to give them a lasting majority in the Electoral College.

The White House was occupied by America's first social justice warrior president from 2009 to 2017; his bureaucratic acolytes continue in stealth to do the yeoman's work of stifling traditional American values, but the left is still unable to silence the opposition. Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, Herman Cain, and others command the attention of millions of Americans on a daily basis, and the Tea Party, Convention of States, and State of Jefferson movements are examples of the grassroots of American patriots who refuse to be subjugated by the collectivist mandarins in the District of Columbia and the various state capitals.

With so much resistance against big government simmering from sea to shining sea, it seems high time for the statists among us start asking themselves if they should pack their Birkenstocks and head off to any number of socialists utopias, from San Salvador to Stockholm, where they can have all the government-run equality they can stomach.



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Steve Ott
Professor Quiet
link   Steve Ott    7 years ago

the existential question each liberal-progressive ought to be asking himself is the very question a punk rock band made famous as the refrain of their most popular tune.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
link   seeder  XXJefferson51    7 years ago

"The White House was occupied by America's first social justice warrior president from 2009 to 2017; his bureaucratic acolytes continue in stealth to do the yeoman's work of stifling traditional American values, but the left is still unable to silence the opposition. Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, Herman Cain, and others command the attention of millions of Americans on a daily basis, and the Tea Party, Convention of States, and State of Jefferson movements are examples of the grassroots of American patriots who refuse to be subjugated by the collectivist mandarins in the District of Columbia and the various state capitals."

 
 
 
Dowser
Sophomore Quiet
link   Dowser    7 years ago

Who are you to ask me if I should stay or go?  Hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but this is my country, too.  Strangely enough, I'm pretty happy here.  It's home.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
link   Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dowser   7 years ago

Dowser, the article and those who support what it says, are not asking you to go. They are just asking those who are not happy with the present status quo to ask themselves that question. No doubt the answer by most, including you, is "Hell no, I won't go."  

Although I probably lean to the right of middle, I am still an advocate for stricter gun controls (although I have indicated that in America it's now too late for that due to the enormous proliferation of weaponry), a woman's free choice for abortions, universal single-payer health care, no death penalty, but on the other hand I worry about the creeping Caliphate and how it is infecting Western countries, believe in absolute support for Israel (wherein Obama saw fit to support Hamas' desire to destroy Israel), think it ridiculous to require separate washrooms for the many multiple versions of sexuality (as I see it, 3, being male, female and disabled/elderly/other would be adequte), and I do not fear Communism and am quite comfortable living in China (although I do not support some of its aspects, they do not affect me negatively). I abhor the banning of free speech, especially on campuses, even to the extent of not hypocritically opposing the anti-Semitic Israel-bashing Linda Sarsour's giving the graduation speech at CUNY. (What could the university administration have been thinking to support a terrorist-supporter?)

Although I am disgusted with the attempts of the too-young, too-immature, too-incompetent Justin Trudeau (who cannot be compared with his father) to negatively affect Canada (save for his support of the indigenous people) I am really amused at the expression in the article:

"To our geographic north lies a European-style welfare state that spends about 35 percent of its federal budget annually on elderly programs, children's services, and health care..."

Seems to me that there isn't anything negative about that, and that "welfare state" stands considerably higher than the USA in many beneficial aspects of statistical data as determined by such organizations such as OECD.

So Dowser, nobody is asking you to leave your bluegrass home - it is those who are bitching about present circumstances who should do so, because they sure as hell don't seem to be doing anything positive about making life better there.

 
 
 
Dowser
Sophomore Quiet
link   Dowser  replied to  Buzz of the Orient   7 years ago

Buzz, again, we are alike more than we're different.  I am a gun owner, with quite a lot of weaponry, and still would prefer better gun controls...  It always worries me to go to the firing range and see all the holes in the roof.  (I'm thinking about the kind of people who can't seem to control their weapon...)  Etc., and you KNOW I support Israel.  And you're right-- I don't want to leave home.  My family has been here since 1806 and I kind of like it here.  It would likely drive most people nuts, but I understand it and can see why things are like they are.

I will work hard to continue to make it a better place to live, for all of us.  Come and visit if ever you can!

 
 
 
Spikegary
Junior Quiet
link   Spikegary  replied to  Dowser   7 years ago

Hi Dowser,

I didn't see the article as telling you to make a decision, I saw it as people saying if things are so horrible under the current government, that they should think about and decide whether they should stay or go somewhere else where they would be happier-solely a personal decision.

With all the complaints about these days, I wonder what has changed in people's lives for the worse?  The U.S. is still the U.S. and the silliness reported in the news has had what effect outside of the nattering nabobs in the press?

I still laugh at those who swore they would move out of the United States forever if Trump was elected, and yet, here they are in the good old U. S. of A.

 
 
 
Dowser
Sophomore Quiet
link   Dowser  replied to  Spikegary   7 years ago

I understand your point of view, dear Spike.  Please try to understand that daily, we get an article from XX along the lines of "I hate liberals, leftists, progressives, etc." and was feeling that it was just another one of those kinds of articles.  

I'm not trying to be difficult, nor petulant, nor anything.  But I would never tell conservatives to ask themselves if they should try to fit in with the rest of the country, or leave.  At least, to my knowledge, I never have.  

Was it Voltaire that said that majority rule was tyranny?  Sometimes, it seems like it...

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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link   seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dowser   7 years ago

Even if I really did that, you claim to not be a liberal or progressive so clearly these articles have absolutely nothing to do with you?  The country is roughly 40% conservative, 40% moderate, and 20% liberal.  Yet you seem to claim articles directed at 20% somehow offend 50%.  Since you personally never said you'd leave the country if Trump won, how did you possibly conclude it in any way was directed at or was about you?  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
link   seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dowser   7 years ago

Even if I really did that, you claim to not be a liberal or progressive so clearly these articles have absolutely nothing to do with you?  The country is roughly 40% conservative, 40% moderate, and 20% liberal.  Yet you seem to claim articles directed at 20% somehow offend 50%.  Since you personally never said you'd leave the country if Trump won, how did you possibly conclude it in any way was directed at or was about you?  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
link   Buzz of the Orient    7 years ago

You won't want to go to Canada with the kind of Prime Minister there who should be kicked out on his ass. 

I'm embarrassed and humiliated, as a Canadian, as you will see if you open this article:

 
 
 
Spikegary
Junior Quiet
link   Spikegary  replied to  Buzz of the Orient   7 years ago

Yeah, Toronto has become a 'foreigners only' kind of place.  It is nowhere as inclusive of all as it was when I got here in 2000.

 
 

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