There Are Reports And Indications That Trump Has Dealt Away His Promise To Build A Wall Between Us and Mexico
The announcement of the Dreamer deal drew instant criticism from conservatives against the plan.
“If AP is correct, Trump base is blown up, destroyed, irreparable, and disillusioned beyond repair. No promise is credible,” Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) tweeted after the news broke.
Breitbart, the news outlet run by former Trump aide Steve Bannon, put up a head line that simply said “Amnesty Don.”
WASHINGTON – President Trump joined with Democratic congressional leaders Wednesday night to forge a deal to protect children of undocumented immigrants — a deal that the Dems said does not include money for a border wall.
The agreement with Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-New York) and Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-California) to help so-called “Dreamers” came after Trump called the duo to a dinner meeting over Chinese food at the White House, according to sources.
Under the agreement, Congress would pass the bipartisan Dream Act along with measures to enhance border security, but not funding for Trump’s border wall with Mexico, the sources said.
“We agreed to enshrine the protections of DACA into law quickly, and to work out a package of border security, excluding the wall, that’s acceptable to both sides,” Schumer and Pelosi said in a joint statement.
The White House said in its own statement that the president had “a constructive working dinner” with Schumer, Pelosi and administration officials “to discuss policy and legislative priorities,” including DACA.
Later the administration pushed back on the idea that the wall was off the table.
“While DACA and border security were both discussed, excluding the wall was certainly not agreed to,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders tweeted .
But Schumer spokesman, Matt House, clarified : “The President made clear he would continue pushing the wall, just not as part of this agreement.”
The announcement of the Dreamer deal drew instant criticism from conservatives against the plan.
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"After Trump's tweets Thursday morning, the pair reiterated that "both sides" agreed the wall would "not be any part of this agreement."
"The President made clear he intends to pursue it at a later time, and we made clear we would continue to oppose it," they said.
Pelosi and Schumer said they discussed new technology, drones, air support, sensor equipment, rebuilding roads along the border, and existing congressional legislation as potential boosts in border security.
"The WALL, which is already under construction in the form of new renovation of old and existing fences and walls, will continue to be built," Trump tweeted Thursday morning."
Back in the day , President* Trump added 10 feet to the height of the wall every time Mexico said they wouldn't pay for it.
Now he is reduced to tweeting that "the renovation of old and existing fences" is going on.
How the mighty have fallen.
I caught this briefly last night but I've been so busy lately that I'm not completely up to par on what is going on.
What I can say is that no one should be surprised that a deal was discussed or agreed upon just as no one should be surprised that said deal may never happen.
Donald Trump is not a man of honor or of keeping his word. Nothing is a "done" deal until it happens.
Trump said, in a tweet this morning, that the old "fences" along the border are being repaired.
What do expect, miracles?
At this rate, Trump will be shmoozing with the Clintons, flirting with Elizabeth Warren, and going on bike rides with John Kerry in no time.
Where are the Trumpies today? Don't they want to voice their indignation over Trump not being honest with them? I guess they didn't see this coming ... from the serial liar they elected. The civil war within the Republican Party is going to be fun to watch. Get some popcorn.
Where are the Trumpies today
Where's the resistance? For the last year and a half, he's been attacked as the next Hitler, and now he's buddy buddy with the leaders of the Democratic Party and the Democrats don't care?
I mean, two weeks ago, he was worse than David Duke and now he's embraced by the Democrats. Remember the woman's march about how evil he was? Now he's embraced by the Democrats.
It's funny. The Resistance and Donald, made for each other.
I don't personally know any democrats who are 'embracing' Trump, and I suspect you don't either.
Perhaps, if Obama had embraced the ideas of Republicans he could have gotten his work done without whining about those bad old Republicans.
Some people just don't get it. A POTUS is president to ALL Americans which includes those who do not agree with him. And, a good president works with ideas. It is not an amnesty, but a path to staying here in the U.S.
I am a die hard Republican, but more power to Pres. Trump if he can work with Democrats regarding ANY issue.
Congress should not vote Party exclusively. They were elected for one reason.....to cast a vote for their constituents whether it is their personal belief or not.
Perhaps, if Obama had embraced the ideas of Republicans he could have gotten his work done without whining about those bad old Republicans.
Ummm ... yeah, about that ...
“If he was for it,” former Ohio Senator George Voinovich explained, “we had to be against it.”
I am a die hard Republican
As demonstrated by your die hard support for the most obviously unqualified POTUS in the history of this country.
This deal that Trump made is a GOOD THING. I understand and empathize with your complete unwillingness to acknowledge the possibility that this might actually be helpful to governing our country. But to denigrate the man on this move? Is there a problem here, that you can't find anything else to knock him about? You have to turn this positive event on its ear?
I'm reading new depths of "pathetic" in this seed.
The President makes a deal with the other party, and those who support the other party see absolutely no value in the deal, and continue to berate and denigrate the President that made the deal, USING THE EVENT to denigrate him.
I know it's been a long time folks, but in politics, there is often a lot of horse trading going on in order to get things done. Obama never attempted such a thing, so I can understand that the concept of making deals with the other party might be completely alien to you.
The President makes a deal with the other party, and those who support the other party see absolutely no value in the deal, and continue to berate and denigrate the President that made the deal, USING THE EVENT to denigrate him.
Maybe you and your fellow conservatives should get your heads together and stop contradicting each other. Per Sean:
Where's the resistance? For the last year and a half, he's been attacked as the next Hitler, and now he's buddy buddy with the leaders of the Democratic Party and the Democrats don't care?
There's no great fundamental difference in the 2 quotes.
What I might point out to you is the continued vitriol against Trump in this particular thread. My point is that there's plenty to criticize where he's concerned.
Just not here.
@hal-a-lujah
You see that's the beauty of independent thought. Just because there are those Republicans who disagree doesn't make it an end deal.
If Pres. Trump had to make a deal with Clinton (God forbid) in order to enact legislation that would benefit our Country....so be it!
When Obama was elected and some Repub Congresspeople said they would block him every step of the way what does that say about them? It says IMO they were pretty damn stupid. You don't stop the government from working 'cause you don't agree with the election.
Oh, no. Negative rhetoric towards Pres. Trump is not unusual for any president. He's a big boy, so, he just puts on his armor and takes it. If he can't. then, too bad!
When Obama was elected and some Repub Congresspeople said they would block him every step of the way what does that say about them? It says IMO they were pretty damn stupid.
Forget you trying to get your thoughts consistent with your fellow conservatives - you can't even maintain consistency in your own thoughts.
Perhaps, if Obama had embraced the ideas of Republicans he could have gotten his work done without whining about those bad old Republicans.
Hal, there are no inconsistencies. Obama knowing that from the beginning gave him an insight as to what he faced. So, rather than using that info to his advantage, other than whining for eight years, he could have worked with those Republicans who were willing to sit down with them. There were many.
The bottom line is......do you want a resolve to the immigration problem or not? Would you rather Pres. Trump work with Democrats or not? Are you just interested in finding and alluding to more reasons to dislike Trump?
I'm interested in immigration reform that doesn't involve deporting hard working people who are keeping their nose relatively clean. I'm not interested in deporting a mother or father because they got a parking ticket. The problem with your party is that they can't get their heads out of their asses and come together to make that (or anything else) happen. The only thing left for me to do is sit back at watch you guys claw each other to pieces. You know that there will never be agreement among Republicans over how to fix immigration.
Maybe it is your side who should get their heads straight. What John and Sean said complements each other and is in no way contradictory......
Also it is the way it used to work in government, before the Obama years of shut up we have the votes, (lost those votes fairly quickly after that didn't ya) And ruling by admittedly illegal executive orders.
T-Rump may look, act and speak like any common fool, but in the end he usually makes everyone else appear to be the fools....
He's made a life of doing exactly that.
Sean is mocking the LACK OF (democrat) RESISTANCE to a turncoat Trump, and Johnathan is mocking the democrat RESISTANCE to a turncoat Trump even when it's in their best interest.
T-Rump may look, act and speak like any common fool, but in the end he usually makes everyone else appear to be the fools....
He's made a life of doing exactly that.
The only people he has made look foolish since he took office are his White House staff, his assistants, the members of his political party in Congress, and anyone who had faith that he would control his absurd and ridiculous twitter outbursts.
If Trump were making his opponents look foolish, would his approval rating have sunk so during recent months?
Actually, this story is 2 days old. In fact, the news is being revised to say that no deal has actually been struck, but that the maneuvering is taking place. From what I've read so far, Trump is feeling out the opposition to see where he stands.
This, as I've said before in other threads, is straight out of his book "the Art of the Deal". Trump removes Obama's illegal DACA Executive Order, and places DACA squarely in the laps of Congress. Then, he begins to talk with the Democrats. Trump now knows their position, and hints with them that their desires for DACA are well within his acceptance.
But then there's this pesky thing about Border Security. And that was the main thing that held up Congressional action under Obama.
Let it leak a little bit that he is open to negotiations on the wall, and what happens? Everybody gets all bent about Border Security again, and his base goes after the Republicans over it. And the Dems? Well, if they want to keep DACA, a few of them will have to bend on Border Security. Well within the reaches of this Congress.
And if it fails, well Trump can say, "I gave these clowns 6 months to fix this, and even agreed with the Democratic plan for DACA."
From what I've read so far, Trump is feeling out the opposition to see where he stands.
This, as I've said before in other threads, is straight out of his book "the Art of the Deal". Trump removes Obama's illegal DACA Executive Order, and places DACA squarely in the laps of Congress. Then, he begins to talk with the Democrats. Trump now knows their position, and hints with them that their desires for DACA are well within his acceptance.
But then there's this pesky thing about Border Security. And that was the main thing that held up Congressional action under Obama.
There is no "Art Of The Deal" to this. The Republicans cannot give him the votes he wants in Congress so he has no choice but to deal with the Democrats.
All Trump cares about are passed bills so he can stand there and bloviate about what he has "accomplished". He barely cares what it is, as long as the cameras are rolling at the signing ceremony.