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“You (Trump) have no humanity,.....You have a man who is dying and you’re using him for political punch lines..."

  

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Via:  johnrussell  •  9 years ago  •  82 comments

“You (Trump) have no humanity,.....You have a man who is dying and you’re using him for political punch lines..."

Trump Has 'No Humanity' For Attacking McCain, Who Is Dying, Over Healthcare Law, Critics Say


President Trump attacked John McCain over his refusal to back the Republican healthcare bill, hours after the Arizona senator revealed that his health prognosis for a brain tumor was “very poor.”

In an old clip posted by Trump on Twitter, McC

Trump accused the ill senator of a flip-flop.

"A few of the many clips of John McCain talking about Repealing & Replacing O'Care. My oh my has he changed-complete turn from years of talk," Trump wrote.

In a CNN debate on the issue Monday night Republican Senator Lindsay Graham, one of co-authors of the Republican Graham-Cassidy bill designed to replace Obamacare, defended McCain when informed of Trump’s attack.

"John McCain was willing to die for this country. So I would say to any American who has a problem with John McCain's vote that John McCain can do whatever damn he wants to. He's earned that right," said Graham.

MSNBC host Joe Scarborough defended McCain in a segment on healthcare on his show Morning Joe Tuesday. 

“You have no humanity,” Scarborough said. “You have a man who is dying and you’re using him for political punch lines on talk radio and also in audiences in Alabama?”

“And by the way, for people watching at home, if you’re in the audience and John McCain is getting attacked, and he’s fighting for his life — unless you were raised in a barn, keep your mouths shut,” Scarborough continued. “Show a little respect. Show a little dignity. Show a little class.”

In a local Alabama radio show that aired Monday Trump had criticized McCain for his opposition to the healthcare bill, and at a rally in the state Friday attacked him for refusing to vote to repeal Obamacare in July. 

On Twitter, critics also questioned the appropriateness of Trump's attack. 

"Of course, go after the guy with brain cancer: Trump pins blame on McCain as latest GOP health-care bill sinks," wrote John Dean, a White House counsel under President Richard Nixon.

McCain said last week that he would not vote for the Graham-Cassidy bill, and on Monday night Maine Senator Susan Collins became the third Republican to oppose the bill. Collins’ decision effectively tanked the bill, which now lacks the votes it needs.

Earlier in the week, McCain had told CBS's "60 Minutes"  that his doctors’ prognosis for his brain tumor was “very very serious.”

He was asked whether he cast a “no” vote during the  recent Senate vote on Obamacare to get back at President Trump, who in a campaign trail jibe last year said that McCain wasn’t a war hero because he'd been captured by the enemy during the Vietnam war.

"If I took offense at everybody who has said something about me, or disparaged me or something like that -- life is too short," McCain responded. "You've got to move on. And on an issue of this importance to the nation, for me to worry about a personal relationship, then I'm not doing my job."

He said that Trump had not apologized for the insult, and that they had been raised with different values.

"I'd be glad to converse with him. But I also understand that we're very different people. Different upbringing. Different life experiences," McCain said. "He is in the business of making money and he has been successful. ... I was raised in a military family. I was raised in the concept and belief that duty, honor, country is the lodestar for the behavior that we have to exhibit every single day."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-attacks-mccain-over-healthcare-112037237.html


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    9 years ago

On 60 Minutes Sunday night, McCain basically said that his doctors have told him he is dying. The next day President* Trump is attacking him.

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.1  Kavika   replied to  JohnRussell @1    9 years ago

The loser here is Trump. His inability to accept defeat in which he always has to blame someone else is the signature moment of his failed presidency. 

Sadly while McCain was fighting in Vietnam, Trump was busy getting deferments and then when the deferments ran out he discovered a bone spur and now can't remember what foot the spur was in. 

That is the difference between McCain and Trump. Honor and no honor.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1    9 years ago
On 60 Minutes Sunday night, McCain basically said that his doctors have told him he is dying. The next day President* Trump is attacking him.

John McCain is still a fully functioning Senator, he even intends to run again next year for the Senate, regardless of his condition. He was the crucial vote in sinking the GOP healthcare bill. Are you saying that he is off limits to political criticism?   Are you saying that he belongs in a bubble because of his fatal illness? 

When did you become so fond of Senator McCain?  
Did you vote for him during the Presidential campaign of 2018?

Your article sounds oh so familiar, kind of like what Joe Scarborough said this morning. What happened to Paul Newman (that's what I really want to know) ???

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @1    9 years ago
On 60 Minutes Sunday night, McCain basically said that his doctors have told him he is dying.

If he's that sick that he can't take the stress of the job then maybe he should remove himself from office and allow somebody to fill that seat that has the ability to put their personal feelings aside and do the job.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2  Hal A. Lujah    9 years ago

Show a little class.

Telling Donald Trump to show some class is like telling your dog to stop licking his balls.  Ain't gonna happen.

 
 
 
Willjay9
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5  Willjay9    9 years ago
A few of the many clips of John McCain talking about Repealing & Replacing O'Care. My oh my has he changed-complete turn from years of talk," Trump wrote.

Yeah, knowing your own mortality has that kind of affect...at least to people who are not sociopaths!....smh

 
 
 
96WS6
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7  96WS6    9 years ago

The guy that screwed Trump over (and yes I believe that was the reason for his vote) happens to have brain cancer.  So if you say anything about it "you are going after the guy with brain cancer".  Give me a break.

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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7.1  magnoliaave  replied to  96WS6 @7    9 years ago

And, that's the way it goes!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  96WS6 @7    9 years ago

McCain gave his reasons. He wants regular order in the Senate , where there are committee hearings with witnesses and hours of debate on the Senate floor. The leadership did not want to expose their bill to such factfinding measures, so McCain is voting no.

How the fuck did he screw trump over?

Trump doesnt even know what is in the frigging bill.

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Silent
7.2.1  96WS6  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2    9 years ago

McCain has made no bones about his hate of Trump and ACA.  The issue here is that he hates Trump more than Obamacare.  Since when do you honestly think McCain is doing what's best for you?   Right after he bashed Trump maybe?  ROFL

I happen to think he is an ass hat that holds grudges and that is 99.9% of the reason for his vote.   Not the first time he steered away from the party to screw someone over he had a beef with either.  Yes McCain, Pelosi, McConnell, Reid are all prime examples of why we MUST enact term limits.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  96WS6 @7.2.1    9 years ago
The issue here is that he hates Trump more than Obamacare.

And it's pathetic that he (McCain) cannot put his PERSONAL problems aside to do his job.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.2.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.2.2    9 years ago

He did his job. He said he will not vote yes on a health care bill that does not follow the regular procedures of the Senate. What is you guys problem with understanding that?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.2.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2.3    9 years ago

Maybe in your fairy tale land, but in reality, he didn't.

 
 
 
deepwaterdon
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7.2.5  deepwaterdon  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.2.2    9 years ago

At least he wasn't part of the gang of 200+, that tried (and failed) to repeal, 40+ times without a replace plan in sight, to kill the ACA. But of course that wasn't personal? Just rules from the Politicians Playbook, I guess.

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
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7.2.6  A. Macarthur  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.2.2    9 years ago

Tell me what specific portions of the Graham-Cassidy Bill you personally believe made it better than Obamacare … 

• Is it the ability of Insurance companies to price children with pre-existing cancers 

• Is it the cap on coverage?

• Is it forcing nursing home patients to move in with family … or, to the street

Or, possibly these features.

20170918uvhealthcareinfographicv4.png

Let's get real … what Republicans want to repeal is a law with the name "Obama" on it.

But I'm still willing to hear what aspects of Graham-Cassidy makes anyone want it as law.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.2.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  A. Macarthur @7.2.6    9 years ago
Tell me what specific portions of the Graham-Cassidy Bill you personally believe made it better than Obamacare

Never said it was better.  "Obamacare" has been a train wreck from the start.  It didn't fix anything.  This new one will be a train wreck as well and for the same reasons.  IT WON'T FIX ANYTHING.  

You want everybody to have insurance.  Go after the insurance companies, hospitals and doctors.  Go after the FDA.  Neither the ACA or this new version don't do that.  

It's funny that out of the 11 most developed countries, the US is ranked 11th when it comes to healthy lives, efficiency and equity.  In a nutshell - WE HAVE THE WORST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.  Why do you think the politicians exempted themselves from it?  THEY KNEW IT WAS BAD and still pushed it through on us.  

Overall health care ranking

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
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7.2.8  A. Macarthur  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.2.7    9 years ago
Never said it was better.  "Obamacare" has been a train wreck from the start.  It didn't fix anything.  This new one will be a train wreck as well and for the same reasons.  IT WON'T FIX ANYTHING.

For once, you and I are pretty much in agreement!

Obamacare did fix some things … like previous denials for coverage of pre-existing conditions and coverage caps. But beyond that, with no public option, it failed to force private insurers to be competitive … particularly so for as long as they are anti-trust exempt!

Why not Single Payer where we'd have a broader base that could lead to lower rates and taking the burden off of employers?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.2.9  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  A. Macarthur @7.2.8    9 years ago
For once, you and I are pretty much in agreement!

Miracles never cease. The pre-existing conditions aspect is about the ONLY thing that the ACA fixed.  It didn't bring rates down and it made it harder to be seen by specialty clinics / doctors.  

Why not Single Payer where we'd have a broader base that could lead to lower rates and taking the burden off of employers?

I have to do more research about the single payer aspect of Healthcare coverage, but it shouldn't be an employers burden.  It covers a person, making it a personal burden.  That is part of the reason many companies are going with part time positions.  

All in all, the government is going after the wrong aspect of the healthcare.  It's not the insurance that's the problem.  The insurance helps pay for everything.  It's the doctors and hospitals that are overcharging that is the problem.

 
 

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