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What's The Use Of Owning 42 Guns If You Can't Shoot Something

  

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Via:  johnrussell  •  9 years ago  •  25 comments

What's The Use Of Owning 42 Guns If You Can't Shoot Something

Stephen Paddock owned 42 guns. 23 of them were with him when he shot hundreds of people Sunday night. The other 19 were found in his house.

Why does someone need 42 guns unless they are being collected for monetary value as an "investment" like coins or jewels or rare baseball cards?  Since he took 23 of them to use as his killing machine , we can assume he was not a collector's collector.

No one can see the motive for this mass murder in Las Vegas. What if something that grew to diseased "gun love" was the motive in itself? I think it is perfectly reasonable to say that someone who has 42 guns loves guns too much. By the way, the "average" gun owner in the US has 8 guns, according to a news program I saw this morning.

I am not saying that everyone who has 42 guns is a mass murderer waiting to happen. But if you took two people with the same psychological vulnerabilities , and one of them  has one gun and the other has 42, I'm staying away from the guy with the 42.

I'd like to know Paddock's thought process in buying all these guns. Did he fall prey to the NRA sales pitch, did they make him feel powerful, did he like the way they looked lined up in  case? Did he impress himself?

Lacking any other motive, I'd say he killed all those people because of a sick fascination with guns.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    9 years ago

Given the political climate in America, I don't think it is reasonable to expect to "ban" guns. I do think we need to find a way to diminish "gun love", because an obsession with guns leads to their use, and when guns are used people get hurt or dead.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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2  It Is ME    9 years ago

"Why does someone need 42 guns unless they are being collected for monetary value as an "investment" like coins or jewels or rare baseball cards?  Since he took 23 of them to use as his killing machine , we can assume he was not a collector's collector."

Do we know what the 23 guns were yet ?

Or the entire 42 for that matter ?

After all....the guy....according to the media.....was a millionaire. Millionaires have hobbies too.

Assuming without knowing, can be so......political !

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  It Is ME @2    9 years ago

He shot 600 people dude. It was more than a "hobby'.

 
 
 
Rex Block
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2.1.1  Rex Block  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    9 years ago
So what's the solution? Ban all guns to all people? Then only outlaws and determined killers will have guns. As far as we know, all the purchases were legal, and the killer had no police or mental health record. As far as I know, the NRA doesn't promote guns, nor promote their sale.
 
 
 
It Is ME
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2.1.2  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    9 years ago

Insane before he WASN'T ?

He was sane when he made millions of dollars.

Do YOU know how long it took him to gather a 42 gun collection ?

Do YOU know if he has been planning something like this for years on end ?

Ya see.....Assumptions are asinine !

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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2.1.3  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  It Is ME @2.1.2    9 years ago
Insane before he WASN'T ?

IMO anyone who commits a mass murder is insane. 

Sane people don't act that way.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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2.1.4  It Is ME  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @2.1.3    9 years ago
IMO anyone who commits a mass murder is insane.

Exactly.....BUT....he must have been sane at some points in his life....wouldn't you say ? After all, he made it to 64....and made millions ta-boot..... without any major problem showing up.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Rex Block @2.1.1    9 years ago
As far as I know, the NRA doesn't promote guns, nor promote their sale.

I take it you have never seen or heard Wayne Lapierre speak.

 
 
 
Willjay9
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2.1.7  Willjay9  replied to  It Is ME @2.1.4    9 years ago

After all, he made it to 64....and made millions ta-boot

You know what they say poor people are insane....rich people are eccentric

 
 
 
It Is ME
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2.1.8  It Is ME  replied to  Willjay9 @2.1.7    9 years ago
You know what they say poor people are insane....rich people are eccentric

This Rich person became INSANE !

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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2.1.9  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  It Is ME @2.1.4    9 years ago
Exactly.....BUT....he must have been sane at some points in his life....wouldn't you say ?

Most insane people were.  

I am currently working with a man whose wife is so depressed she stays in bed so much she is actually destroying her own physical strength. At one time she was a productive member of society but now, day after day she refuses to seek help and lays in bed hoping her world changes as she gets physically weaker and weaker and stays depressed.

She is at the point she can do little for herself and is constantly looking for someone to do for her. Unfortunately her husband is a disabled veteran approaching the end of his life and she sure isn't helping the situation.

She didn't get this way overnight either. But has refused help for years. She only wants help doing what she doesn't want to do or now, can't do.  Soon she will see the full effects of her ineffective way of dealing with her depression and life. When he dies her income stops.

so sad.

Mental illness takes many different forms and mainly can be treated BUT most of the time in a free America, those people have to want help. Many dont until it's too late. In America that is their choice.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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2.1.10  It Is ME  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @2.1.9    9 years ago
Mental illness takes many different forms and mainly can be treated BUT most of the time in a free America, those people have to want help.

There's the rub !

Some don't think they need help, and even in front of family show NO signs of a problem. It's like the Hollywood Types that end up dead. They have everything, but apparently had NOTHING !

Sooooo......who is there to judge mental illness then.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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2.1.11  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @2.1.9    9 years ago
Mental illness takes many different forms and mainly can be treated BUT most of the time in a free America, those people have to want help. Many dont until it's too late. In America that is their choice.

Most of the time their choice not to seek help mainly effects themselves and their families so we never hear about it.  This time was different. We all heard about it and many died because of it. 

Of Course I am speculating that this mass murder was insane at the time because a sane person doing this is unfathomable to me. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3  Hal A. Lujah    9 years ago

We used to have a guy here who was a gun fanatic, and I asked why do you need 20 guns?  He indigently responded with a different reason why he needs each gun, including one he had that was the best one for shooting snakes that he might be surprised by.  I am just amazed that I have made it 50 years in this world without ever owning a gun.  How am I still alive?  It's unfathomable.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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3.1  It Is ME  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3    9 years ago
I am just amazed that I have made it 50 years in this world without ever owning a gun.

I've made it longer than that as a gun owner.

Your kneejerk reaction point ?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  It Is ME @3.1    9 years ago

Wow - congratulations!  Sorry that you aren't as adept at surviving as me, but at least you are protected if a fer-de-lance slithers into your path.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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3.1.2  It Is ME  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.1    9 years ago
Sorry that you aren't as adept at surviving as me, but at least you are protected if a fer-de-lance slithers into your path.

WOW ! laughing dude

Narcissist much ?

You can tell me. I can keep a secret. sssssshhhhh, Hush, Hush........are you a Trumper ?

 
 
 
NuVeiw
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3.2  NuVeiw  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3    9 years ago

When I left the Army in 1970 was the last time I fired a weapon and I vowed I would never own one and haven't. Looking at the state of this country with the hate being stirred by the Ahole in charge, I may reconsider.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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4  Dean Moriarty    9 years ago

I'm glad I don't live in a country where the government restricts your freedom to acquiring only what the government deems you need. I have many things I don't need but I wanted them and it benefited the economy as a result. 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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4.1  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Dean Moriarty @4    9 years ago
I'm glad I don't live in a country where the government restricts your freedom to acquiring only what the government deems you need

I believe we still do. There are "things" I'd like to possess but are illegal to own. 

However, I can go the any local 7-11 and find a legal alternative 24/7/365  to what I want. The sad part is what I want never killed anyone directly but the alternative kills hundreds of Americans daily. 

Common sense laws in this country....LOL

Nationally legalize marijuana and help save lives.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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4.1.2  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @4.1.1    9 years ago
As if having more stupid and lazy people is a good idea.

Not all marijuana smokers are lazy or stupid. Want o talk stupidity? Try talking to a alcoholic who uses a drug that kills hundreds to thousands a day. Man is that stupid !

Talking  stupidity...Try looking at our laws that allow deadly intoxicants to be sold at every street corner 7-11 24/7/365 but outlaws the use of a alternative mild intoxicant (marijuana)  that is non lethal. 

In my lifetime I've know plenty of both, alcoholics and pot heads, I'll take a marijuana user any day over an alcoholic. The worst is met heads and heroin addicts.  I know one lady who is a alcoholic and a legal prescription pain pill pill popper who has almost caused her own death more than once from her drug(s) of choice. She says she doing fine....LOL

No buzz is worth dying for ! 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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5  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu     9 years ago

"What's The Use Of Owning 42 Guns If You Can't Shoot Something"

What's The Use Of Owning multiples of anything ?

But many people do. Be it cars, homes, televisions, guns, tools, motorcycles, shoes, you name it, most Americans have more than one. 

 
 

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