Trump Takes a Wrecking Ball to Two Obama Legacies
Trump takes a wrecking ball to two Obama legacies
WASHINGTON — Despite his business career as a builder, Donald Trump’s first year as president has focused more on dismantling his predecessor’s achievements — with less focus on how to replace them. This week gives us two key examples.
At 11:15 am ET, Trump will sign an executive order that experts believe “could rattle the Affordable Care Act’s private insurance markets by allowing a proliferation of cheaper, less comprehensive plans that would undermine rules about who and what insurers must cover,” the Huffington Post’s Jonathan Cohn writes .
“The new, less regulated insurance plans could provide an attractive alternative to consumers who don’t expect to have large medical bills and who are frustrated with the high premiums they pay for policies today. At the same time, comprehensive coverage could become harder and eventually even impossible to find, especially for people with pre-existing conditions.”
Then tomorrow, Trump is expected to announce that he’s decertifying the Iran nuclear deal , despite almost every observer and national-security expert — including in Trump’s own cabinet — saying that Iran has abided by the deal.
Why is Trump taking this action, which would kick to Congress whether the United States would effectively withdraw from the deal? As the Washington Post reports , he threw a fit because his advisers believed the deal had its benefits.
“He was incensed by the arguments of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and others that the landmark 2015 deal, while flawed, offered stability and other benefits. He did not want to certify to Congress that the agreement remained in the vital U.S. national security interest and that Iran was meeting its obligations. He did not think either was true,” the Post says. “‘He threw a fit,’ said one person familiar with the meeting. ‘. . . He was furious. Really furious. It’s clear he felt jammed.’”
More from the Post: “So White House national security adviser H.R. McMaster and other senior advisers came up with a plan — one aimed at accommodating Trump’s loathing of the Iran deal as ‘an embarrassment’ without killing it outright.”
Let that sink in: The president is taking a course of action on an international agreement because it didn’t align with his personal opinion. And his advisers — who disagreed — tried to come up with a solution that didn’t kill the deal. At least not immediately.
Now the question turns to: So what will Trump build in its place? NBC’s Vivian Salama, Andrea Mitchell and Carol Lee report that the Trump administration wants to use the congressional debate to work on a new deal that cracks down on Iran’s missile program and its destabilizing activities in the Middle East.
But: “Britain, France and Germany, along with the European Union’s foreign policy chief, have argued to Congress and the Trump administration that the deal cannot be redone. Iran has said the same,” the Post writes .
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Maybe you should ask HilLIARy how DEPLORABLE she feels now...and she has a lifetime of regret...and a bucket of Preparation H...no pun intended!!
Maybe you should actually post something in the way of an actual rebuttal rather than doing the two-wrongs-make-a-right thing.
If it was unwise for her, it's unwise for you.
To see what Trump’s agenda is to look at everything Obama did. He seems to want to erase everything Obama has done and just doesn’t seem to know what to do that would be his ideas
We HAD great insurance for my wife which DID cover everything we needed including all the tests and meds she used and the doctors she liked.
Of course you did..... Notice how every example people list is "we had" or "a friend had", never anything that can be confirmed. FoxNews kept trying that when Obamacare first became law, every one of their examples was shown to be made up.
childish
So the CoH doesn't apply to you? How quaint. How liberal.
Gruber recanted his statement.
So Gruber was mistaken? Or talking out of turn? Is there any liberal BS lie so incredible that you WOUDN'T believe when told to?
I saw where Weinstein, that liberal bastion of female empowerment, apologized for raping (at last count) two dozen women. Do you believe he's sorry? Sorry for the rapes or sorry he's been outed?
And now a high ranking Amazon executive has been forced to leave his post for the same thing. Seems to be a common liberal MO. And the minions still haven't caught on.
hilLIARy is "outraged". After spending years defending Slick Willie and Anthony Wiener do you believe HER???
I wonder how many more women the liberals will have to apologize for.
The only thing surprising is how quickly the liberal minions are willing to slurp up anything they're told to slurp up.
Any of this too childish for you?
If it was unwise for her, it's unwise for you.
No my friend - Fed just handed you your behind - this is you in denial. This is you with nothing but a deflection. This is you fumbling around for an intellectual argument. This is you at that precious moment where walking away would be your best option.
Well, if you say so.
Oops - you waited too long.
Bourbon Street, please read the CoC found at the bottom of the page. Please pay attention to the flagging system. If a comment isn't a CoC violation, then it stands. You can't flag something just because you don't like it. D.
Now you will be able to afford cheap insurance
Young healthy people don't need all of the stuff in the mandated coverage. Obamacare was overpriced and not much better than what you are complaining about. The copays were too high to use. It has been going under since it was passed.
There is a better way. The Swiss Universal system.
Then tomorrow, Trump is expected to announce that he’s decertifying the Iran nuclear deal , despite almost every observer and national-security expert — including in Trump’s own cabinet — saying that Iran has abided by the deal.
Iran tried to obtain illicit technology that could be used for military nuclear and ballistic missile programs, according to three German intelligence reports obtained by Fox News. | Fox News
Iran tried to obtain illicit technology that could be used for military nuclear and ballistic missile programs, raising questions about a possible violation of the 2015 agreement intended to stop Tehran’s drive to become an atomic armed power, according to three German intelligence reports obtained by Fox News.
The new intelligence , detailing reports from September and October and disclosed just ahead of President Trump’s planned announcement Thursday on whether the U.S. will recertify the Iran deal, reveals that Iran’s regime made “32 procurement attempts … that definitely or with high likelihood were undertaken for the benefit of proliferation programs.”
According to the document, the 32 attempts took place in the German state of North Rhine-Westphalia. The report lists Iran as a nation that engages in proliferation, which is defined as “spreading atomic, biological or chemical weapons of mass destruction.”
Missile delivery systems are also included in the definition of illicit proliferation activity in the report.
THE CASE FOR A 'CLEAN WITHDRAWAL' FROM THE IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL
The North Rhine-Westphalia agency accused Iran of using front companies in the United Arab Emirates, Turkey and China to circumvent international restrictions on its nuclear and missile programs.
The intelligence report, which covered the year 2016 — the Iran deal was implemented on Jan. 16, 2016 — calls further into question Iran’s compliance with the agreement, formally known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, or JCPOA.
The overwhelming majority of Iran’s illegal attempts covering the year 2016 in North Rhine-Westphalia encompassed technology for the clerical regime’s missile programs.
The year before, the agency recorded 141 attempts by Iran to secure illicit goods for proliferation purposes.
AS TRUMP CHALLENGES IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL, THOSE IN TEHRAN WORRY
In a second intelligence report obtained by Fox News, the German state of Hessen said Iran, Pakistan, North Korea and Sudan use “guest academics” for illegal activities related to nuclear and other weapons programs. “An example for this type of activity occurred in the sector of electronic technology in connection with the implementation of the enrichment of uranium,” the document reads.
The intelligence officials also cited an example of foreign intelligence services using “research exchanges at universities in the sector of biological and chemical procedures.”
When asked about whether Iran was involved in the academic and research cases, a spokesman for Hessen’s intelligence agency declined to comment.
What decertification would do, in short, is create yet another foreign policy mess at a time when the Trump administration is preoccupied and ill-prepared to deal with one. And the stakes — the preventing the rise of a hostile nuclear power in one of the world’s most unstable regions — are very high.
So you trust Iran and believe they are being honest?
What do you think this deal is doing to prevent the rise of a hostile nuclear power in one of the world’s most unstable regions? Their not allowing the inspectors access would indicate to me at least that they're not interested following the guidelines of it. They also recently tested a new missile system. Sooner or later both Iran and North Korea are going to have to be dealt with.
What decertification would do, in short, is create yet another foreign policy mess at a time when the Trump administration is preoccupied and ill-prepared to deal with one.
So we should just allow Iran to continue to attempt to get their nukes and act surprised when they hit us? Remember, WE are the GREAT satan...Israel is the little satan! Did you forget Iran saying DEATH TO AMERICA and bombing the white house and O'loser did nothing about it? You dont give a lunatic matches and tell him not to play with them! We saw what happened when Billy BJ Boy did that with North Korea!
Sooner or later both Iran and North Korea are going to have to be dealt with.
The Democrats are good for kicking the can down the road to the Republicans then blaming them for the fallout!
I don't believe we can afford to have two symbiotic nuke-club wanna-be's helping each other over the finish line....unless of course you're okay with Israel being turned into a glass ashtray followed by launches of ICBMs toward Europe - followed by NoKo doing much the same but with different targets.
This can be laid at the feet of Dingle-Barry himself. After all, he funded the single largest promoter of terrorism in the world with $1.5 billion dollars in their quest for nukes.
Obama's true legacy - racial division, the crippling of our republic from within - and nuclear armed terrorists and pedophile nut-jobs.
Obama's true legacy - racial division, the crippling of our republic from within - and nuclear armed terrorists and pedophile nut-jobs.
Obama's true legacy was that of his radical mentors!
Barack Hussein Obama's Mentors ...Great Reads and worth the time!
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Weather Underground terrorist planned to eliminate 25 million U.S. citizens in re-education camps.
Allies of Palestinians see a friend in Obama
HOW SAUL ALINSKY TAUGHT BARACK OBAMA EVERYTHING HE KNOWS ABOUT CIVIC UPHEAVAL
OBAMA'S BELOVED LAW PROFESSOR: DERRICK BELL
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The Alinsky Administration
Today, reading Rules for Radicals is illuminating and worrisome.
Frank Marshall Davis, alleged Communist, was early influence on Barack Obama
Long-lost article by Obama's dad surfaces
Allies of Palestinians see a friend in Obama
Obama's Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
Sharon Sebastian
Author of your list.
WRONG! Each article had a different author but how nice of you NOT to refute any of it! Comment removed for skirting the CoC [ph]
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Unless I specifically cite my "Union guy" background in the context of a thread, it's off fucking limits to you.
I see what's happening here; a pack of In-the-Image-of-Trump boys are pissing on the floor and blaming others for the smell of urine.
YOU'RE DESTROYING THE SITE! Your echo chamber Comment removed for skirting the CoC [ph] no reasonable members want to hold their metaphorical noses and be overwhelmed by a foul gang bang.
Only a couple of us have continued to try and discuss issues with you … that is likely to end soon. You have brought a cancer of hateful myopia here … you may well be carriers of a terminal outcome.
Once you are talking only to one another, which now seems imminent … a lost place in which members can speak their minds without being inundated with hit-the-ground shit-flinging, it's on you.
Will the U.S. have enough soldiers if U.S. starts a war with North Korea and Iran added to all the wars they are already fighting’s?
if ya find an answer on what the actual benefits of this deal are .. let me know .. thanks..
Hey Colour!! The only benefit is to IRAN!! Designed by Valarie Jarrett, the Iranian and right hand "man" to O'loser!
Evidence emerging of Rouhani’s radicalism, once approved of hiding Iran nuclear work.
Despite the widespread enthusiasm in world capitals and the media that there is new hope in Iran because a “reformer” has been “elected,” evidence is continuing to emerge that Hassan Rouhani is a dangerous Radical Shia Muslim who is deeply committed to the Ayatollah Khamenei, and Iran’s nuclear program, and to building atomic bombs in secret.
Rouhani is no moderate. He is a disciple of the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the late fanatical tyrant of Tehran. He was a senior national security advisor to Khomeini during the brutal war with Iraq that left a million people dead. He served as a top national security advisor to the regime in the 1990s, as well. He was Iran’s nuclear negotiator from 2003 to 2005 and is both a loyal defender of Iran’s nuclear program and a shrewd and experienced diplomat. He also approved hiding Iran nuclear work!!
You've really got to hand it to Iranian Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
The man is one of the most evil tyrants on the face of the earth. He is pursuing nuclear weapons to wipe Israel and the U.S. off the map. He wants to usher in the caliphate of the Twelfth Imam and bring about the apocalyptic End of Days. Yet he is desperately trying to prevent Israel -- or any other country -- from launching preemptive military strikes and neutralizing Iran's nuclear weapons program. Thus, Khamenei is trying to use the rigged current presidential elections to recast Iran as suddenly moving in a more "moderate" direction, and thus persuading the West to ease up on economic sanctions and pressure Israel to back off.
And the Western media is totally buying it.
I expect that Rouhani’s will immediately try to bring some hope to the people of Iran. But practically, he will not be able to do much. However, there is a possible scenario that may exist behind the scenes: it is possible the Khamenei will use Rouhani to buy more time for his nuclear programs. This is how it works: Rouhani will start negotiating with the West. He will seem to be a “good guy” and will look like that he is making some progress. After months of negotiation, when both sides seem to be coming to an agreement, Khamenei will step in and veto the decision. There is also a slight chance that Khamenei indeed wants to establish relationship with the West and will use Rouhani to do that (but this is very unlikely).
Yeah, Israel will get rid of their weapons, which is the ONLY thing keeping Iran in line….so Iran can wipe them off the face of the earth…
Here's the one fact you need to know that will help you understand Rouhani -- he was endorsed by the only prominent Iranian politician who has ever publicly called for Israel to be destroyed with nuclear weapons.
Iran FM: We can resume 20% enrichment within a day...and WHO gave Iran's BFF, RUSSIA control of US Uranium??? Hildabeast!!
And WHO Gave Iran's BFF, RUSSIA Control Of US Uranium??? Hildabeast!!
Clinton had no power of veto or approval over the deal. She was one of nine members of the committee, and in any case only the president has veto power.
Second, the vast bulk of the donations the Clinton Foundation allegedly received came from a man called Frank Giustra, the company’s founder. But Giustra sold off his stake in the company in 2007, before the deal went through and before Clinton became secretary of state.
Clinton had no power of veto or approval over the deal
Wanna bet?
Russian Uranium Deal (2009-2013): Hillary Clinton’s State Department approved a deal allowing a Russian company to control 20% of the uranium mining production capacity inside the United States , which was followed by millions of dollars in donations to the Clinton Foundation from people associated with the transaction
Beyond mines in Kazakhstan that are among the most lucrative in the world, the sale gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States. Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies. Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton .
And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.
Whether the donations played any role in the approval of the uranium deal is unknown. But the episode underscores the special ethical challenges presented by the Clinton Foundation, headed by a former president who relied heavily on foreign cash to accumulate $250 million in assets even as his wife helped steer American foreign policy as secretary of state, presiding over decisions with the potential to benefit the foundation’s donors.
Clinton had no power of veto or approval over the deal
Do you believe that Putin paid Slick Willie $500K for a speech because they like the sound of his voice? Or that reset button farce - or Dingle-Barry's open-mic oops moment when he told the Russian ambassador to tell Putin that he's have more latitude after the election?
Sure - you're probably right. I'm sure the Klintons would never sell out the American people for their own financial gain.
Yeah, let's bet!
Some of the connections between Uranium One and the Clinton Foundation were unearthed by Peter Schweizer, a former fellow at the right-leaning Hoover Institution and author of the forthcoming book “Clinton Cash.” Mr. Schweizer provided a preview of material in the book to The Times, which scrutinized his information and built upon it with its own reporting.
Research for the book was conducted by the Government Accountability Institute , [1] a conservative nonprofit investigative research organization founded by Peter Schweizer and Steve Bannon . It has been adapted into both a film and a graphic novel.
Yeah, let's bet!
The FBI found it to be TRUE!
Secret Recordings Fueled FBI Feud in Clinton Probe
Agents thought they had enough material to merit aggressively pursuing investigation into Clinton Foundation
Secret recordings of a suspect talking about the Clinton Foundation fueled an internal battle between FBI agents who wanted to pursue the case and corruption prosecutors who viewed the statements as worthless hearsay, people familiar with the matter said.
Agents, using informants and recordings from unrelated corruption investigations, thought they had found enough material to merit aggressively pursuing the investigation into the foundation that started in summer 2015 based on claims made in a book by a conservative author called “Clinton Cash: The Untold Story of How and Why Foreign Governments and Businesses Helped Make Bill and Hillary Rich,” these people said.
All of this lead to those pesky little emails!!
**The emails show that the contacts between John Podesta and Jose Fernandez go back to the time of internal Clinton campaign concern about the then-forthcoming book and movie "Clinton Cash" by Peter Schweizer on the financial dealings of the Clinton Foundation.**
**In an email dated 29 March 2015 (Email ID 2059 ), Jose Fernandez writes to Podesta: "Hi John, I trust you are getting a brief rest after a job well done. Thanks no doubt to your recommendation I have joined the CAP [Center for American Progress] board of trustees, which I'm finding extremely rewarding."**
Julian Assange
Had it not been for a corrupt DOJ and Director of the FBI under O'losers thumb, your little princess would be rotting in jail where she belongs right now!
From the wsj link …
Much of the skepticism toward the case came from how it started—with the publication of a book suggesting possible financial misconduct and self-dealing surrounding the Clinton charity. The author of that book, Peter Schweizer—a former speechwriting consultant for President George W. Bush—was interviewed multiple times by FBI agents, people familiar with the matter said.
Already posted Schweizer connection to Stephen Bannon.
1.5.1.1 FedupwithFed replied to A. Macarthur @ 1.5.1 19 hours ago
Clinton had no power of veto or approval over the deal
Wanna bet?
If that comment represents your reading comprehension abilities, you have my sympathy.
Because Donald Trump has insufficient support in Congress , everything he has done so far in terms of dismantling Obama's legacy will be reversible , if desired, once the democrats retake congressional power.
As giddy as his minions are now as he uses executive orders to repeal Obama executive orders, that is how distraught they will be when Trumps executive orders are inevitably shit canned by a Democratic president.
Singing a different song from the one you were singing about Obama had to act with executive orders because congress failed to act. I love your new tune.
Ironic, isn't it? The Dems were warned that Obama's EOs were vulnerable but they blew it off to support his imperial regime.
The irony is that trump who whined and whined about Obamas EO's is entirely dependent on that method to get anything at all done. When it is all wiped out by the next Dem president, Trump's sole legacy as president will be his tweet trail. 
It's amazing, it's like defending Obama's travel and now attacking Trump travel expenses.
Total Hypocrisy!
We await the side-by-side comparison.
Or like attacking Obama's travel and defending Trump's hypocrisy!....
Yeah I have to laugh whenever I see an ODS sufferer whine and moan about how much Obama spent totally refusing to acknowledge the fact that he was on par if not more conservative in his travel than previous Presidents, and then to turn right around and try to defend Trump's travel by using Obama's as a comparison!
His "library" will be a glass case with his phone in it.
Tis the name of the game .. either let things expire, or repeal through executive order - perks of being the new President ...
At 11:15 am ET, Trump will sign an executive order that experts believe “could rattle the Affordable Care Act’s private insurance markets by allowing a proliferation of cheaper, less comprehensive plans that would undermine rules about who and what insurers must cover,” the Huffington Post’s Jonathan Cohn writes .
“The new, less regulated insurance plans could provide an attractive alternative to consumers who don’t expect to have large medical bills and who are frustrated with the high premiums they pay for policies today. At the same time, comprehensive coverage could become harder and eventually even impossible to find, especially for people with pre-existing conditions
This concerns me .. convoluting healthcare insurance any more than it already is .. is down right scary. Yet there are so many may be's and could be's involved, once again making an informed decision becomes difficult.
I do not play party politics - but I am hopeful that those elected this next go 'round care about 'We the People's' interests and not their own agendas ....
In both cases, people will stand a greater chance of dying before their time!
Trump promised much and has delivered nothing … he runs his mouth but not the White House, continues to pander to the pie-in-the-sky believers who support him, not because of any substantive Trump achievements, rather, because he assures them that whatever deficiencies appear in their lives, they can blame on minorities, immigrants, the media, gays, women, and groups that resist hatred and institutional injustice.
For reasons that are purely political and related to the irrational hatred of his predecessor and his predecessor's achievements, Trump will sabotage and destroy whatever good those achievements embody … then blame their failures on him!
To those who, from day one, shared the Limbaugh wish … "I hope he (Obama) fails," Trump, con man and bigot, works towards such failure with the intent of blaming Obama!
Trump is a serial-lying-narcissistic-bigot … with a bomb!
“Those who are capable of tyranny are capable of perjury to sustain it.”
― Lysander Spooner
To those who, from day one, shared the Limbaugh wish … "I hope he (Obama) fails," Trump, con man and bigot, works towards such failure with the intent of blaming Obama!
"He who troubles his own house will inherit wind, And the foolish will be servant to the wise hearted". ( proverbs/11-29)
Trump is a serial-lying-narcissistic-bigot … with a bomb!
“Those who are capable of tyranny are capable of perjury to sustain it.”
― Lysander Spooner
No one was a bigger narcissistic con man than O'loser...or a racist bigot....who blamed BUSH for everything! Lay off the koolaid dude!! No one wanted him to fail...he did that all on his own!!
Quoting scripture about Obama...ironic! Didnt Obama say we were no longer a Christian Nation? Didnt he tell Christians to get off their high horse? He has a twisted sense of turn the other cheek but he has a lot of esplainin' to do when he meets his maker...before being cast into the fire with his good buddy allpigpoo, aka the devil. That is what O'loser inherited!
There are individuals on NT with whom I am regularly at odds with politically; our debates are pointed and intense … clearly oppositional.
But they proceed without personal hostility or animosity … they are disagreements without being disagreeable.
Those who are consistently commenting in an "in-your-face" mode, who misquote, mischaracterize, and, who cannot refrain from ad hominem interjections … may believe they are, in their approach, tough, strong and possibly intimidating, do no service to NT.
Those of who have been here for years, have seen the "wear down the opposition" vitriolic strategy …
Does it work?
You bet your ass it works! The longer it goes on, the more the dialogues become echo chambers, the more civil members we lose and the more NT's front page becomes a place where reasonable exchanges of disparate opinions go to die.
Those who are consistently commenting in an "in-your-face" mode, who misquote, mischaracterize, and, who cannot refrain from ad hominem interjections … may believe they are, in their approach, tough, strong and possibly intimidating, do no service to NT.
ROFLMAO! That sounds like Coral Taxi!
I haven’t seen the press discuss the consequences of Trump tearing up the Iran deal. To me, all it means is that we withdraw from a multinational agreement while everyone else continues to honor it. Sanctions for everyone else will remain lifted. We can’t effectively impose sanctions on our own because Iran will simply trade with everyone but us. Trump will never be able to persuade anybody else to reimpose sanctions (mostly because they think he’s an imbecile). So is this all just political theatre for Trump fans?
Comment sounds along the lines of a threat .. what exactly needs take'n notice of?
I am very new, so I do not know each posters quirks yet ... I will find my footing once I learn all the subtle rules!
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Whoop whoop!!! Thank you President Trump!!! Screw Congress!! Screw Obama! Now we can buy AFFORDABLE insurance we NEED, not what we dont need for someone else!! If you dont need maternity coverage, you should not be FORCED to buy it! No one paid for ours when we were child bearing age...we paid for our own!
Obviously you don't understand anything not fed to you from the likes of FoxNews and Breitbart.
Now you will be able to afford cheap insurance that won't actually cover anything that you would need it for...Whoop whoop hello bankruptcy!!
Oh stop the snotty condescension. Quit watching CNN and MSNBC or reading the NYT or WaPo.
I HAD excellent insurance that covered all I needed....until O'loser got his hands on it and then I had nothing! If you think I am stupid enough to pay 975/mo for insurance I CANT USE until I meet a 12,900 deductible, you must really be gullible!
Whoop whoop hello bankruptcy!!
Thats what O'loser did to it! Those college kids he counted on buying insurance told him to F*k off!
How many insurance companies pulled out of Obamacare? How many states have NO insurance carriers???
In first month, the vast majority of Obamacare sign-ups are in Medicaid
“When we first saw the numbers, everyone’s eyes kind of bugged out,” said Matt Salo, who runs the National Association of Medicaid Directors. “Of the people walking through the door, 90 percent are on Medicaid. We’re thinking, what planet is this happening on?”
Check out the graph! NO ONE in Oregon has signed up for ACA but 62k signed up for Medicaid…they will beat out California going BANKRUPT!!!!!!
I have four friends that HAD employer paid insurance before Dingle-Barry decided to redistribute our income and made it too expensive for their employer to cover. I also have a friend that could not afford insurance before Dingle-Barry started screwing with us - and because of the way the law is written STILL can't afford insurance for himself and his family - he now has to PAY A TAX because he's too poor.
Obviously liberals still can't figure out the underlying truth about the ACA - that you cannot provide free insurance for people that didn't have it before without the cost going up for the rest of us - and you cannot expect providers to provide it at no-cost.
Gruber was being honest when he said that he and Dingle-Barry were counting on the stupidity of the liberal voting base to get this POS passed. Honest and completely accurate.
I have four friends that HAD employer paid insurance before Dingle-Barry decided to redistribute our income and made it too expensive for their employer to cover. I also have a friend that could not afford insurance before Dingle-Barry started screwing with us - and because of the way the law is written STILL can't afford insurance for himself and his family - he now has to PAY A TAX because he's too poor.
When we stop with the childish, adolescent "Dingle-Barry" name-calling which has nothing specific to do with the issue, we can have a serious dialogue. What
Without knowing why your friend could not afford, before and after the ACA, we can't determine in what way the "screwing with us" affected your friend's insurance status. If you can explain the " he now has to PAY A TAX because he's too poor," that could be helpful.
Obviously liberals still can't figure out the underlying truth about the ACA - that you cannot provide free insurance for people that didn't have it before without the cost going up for the rest of us - and you cannot expect providers to provide it at no-cost.
I will concede that the failure of Obama to even try for a public option was disappointing … but it would make more sense to keep what works and fix what doesn't rather than advance bills that would hurt more people than it would help without fixing anything.
Gruber was being honest when he said that he and Dingle-Barry were counting on the stupidity of the liberal voting base to get this POS passed. Honest and completely accurate.
Gruber recanted his statement.
Jonathan Gruber fires back at Trump over ACA criticism
During Sunday night's presidential debate, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said even the Affordable Care Act's chief architect, Jonathan Gruber, said the healthcare legislation was a scam. Mr. Gruber fired back at Mr. Trump in an official statement Monday, reports Boston Business Journal .
Mr. Trump said Sunday night, "You know that, because Jonathan Gruber, the architect of Obamacare, was said — he said it [the ACA] was a great lie, it was a big lie. President [Barack] Obama said you keep your doctor, you keep your plan. The whole thing was a fraud, and it doesn't work."
Trump was referring to comments Mr. Gruber made in 2014, when Mr. Gruber admitted ACA legislation was written in an ambiguous and complicated manner due to "the stupidity of the American voter" to ensure the law's passage.
Mr. Gruber has since apologized for and recanted the comment.
When asked to respond to Mr. Trump's statement, Mr. Gruber said the debate showed which candidate fully grasped healthcare reform.
"My only comment is that [Sunday] night showed the difference between a candidate with a strong and coherent healthcare agenda (Clinton) and one with a garbage salad of right wing talking points (Trump)," Mr. Gruber wrote in an email to Boston Business Journals .
He can apologize from now till hell freezes over, he made the statement and he believed the statement when he said it.
Well, if you say so.
Every last one?
Hey Bourbon! Tell your friend they cant MAKE you pay it if you OWE taxes!!! They can only TAKE it from your refund...which SHOULD be illegal! Taxing without representation is tyranny!
Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States thatdoes not apply equally to the Senators and Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and Representatives that does not applyequally to the citizens of the United States.
Insurance has quadrupled in price since O'loser f*cked it up. We could afford it BEFORE and those "not as fortunate" should learn the difference between "WANTS" and "NEEDS"! If you choose a tattoo over health insurance, that's not MY problem! Same goes for cigarettes, alcohol, drugs, flat screen TV's, gold grills, weaves, Nail appointments, iphones, etc...if you can afford those then you can afford insurance!
When we stop with the childish, adolescent "Dingle-Barry" name-calling which has nothing specific to do with the issue, we can have a serious dialogue.
Maybe you should ask HilLIARy how DEPLORABLE she feels now...and she has a lifetime of regret...and a bucket of Preparation H...no pun intended!!
Recanting doesnt make it untrue...he said it and faced repercussions from the progressive left! I bet Billy BJ Boy wishes he could RECANT too! Sorry, no cigar!!
Gruber came under fire in 2014 for comments he made about how the " stupidity of the American voter " helped Congress pass Obamacare.
"Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,"
Former President Barack Obama, when questioned about these comments at the time, initially called Gruber " some adviser who never worked on our staff ." Gruber, however, was paid $400,000 by the government to help Department of Health and Human Services estimate healthcare costs.
Lies to cover MORE LIES....the common practice of the digressive liberals!