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Even conservative Erick Erickson is calling on Gen. Kelly to man up and apologize to Rep. Frederica Wilson

  

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Via:  johnrussell  •  9 years ago  •  27 comments

Even conservative Erick Erickson is calling on Gen. Kelly to man up and apologize to Rep. Frederica Wilson

Even conservative Erick Erickson is calling on Gen. Kelly to man up and apologize to Rep. Frederica Wilson


Red State founder Erick Erickson is as conservative as they come but even he thinks that General John Kelly must come out and apologize for the White House’s attacks on Rep. Frederica Wilson (D-FL).

During a Friday appearance on “Real Time with Bill Maher,” the host noted that everyone thought Kelly would “save us” from President Donald Trump’s erratic ability to destabilize anything he touches. Instead, Maher said that Trump has rubbed off on Kelly.

Conservative commentator Erick Erickson said that Kelly must come out and apologize for his statement, referring to the accusations made against Wilson.

“I don’t think it was an intentional lie on his part,” Erickson said. “If it’s a pattern of behavior of his — and maybe it is — but right now I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he misspoke. Probably some other person at the White House gave him the wrong facts but he needs to apologize for it.”

Republican Margaret Hoover agreed, saying that Kelly was giving a very honest and emotional talk “and then he went down the Spicer route,” referring to former press secretary Sean Spicer, who was ridiculed for lying to the press so frequently.

“The president demands that the people who work for him go out and do his bidding at the expense of their own moral authority,” Hoover said. “This is where Kelly, sort of, lost that.”

Watch the full conversation below:

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/even-conservative-erick-erickson-is-calling-on-gen-kelly-to-man-up-and-apologize-for-attacks-on-rep-wilson/#.WeqzkJWrTjc.twitter


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    9 years ago

I don't think Kelly will apologize. He would forevermore be wondering when Trump was going to throw him under the bus for it. 

 
 
 
Rex Block
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1.1  Rex Block  replied to  JohnRussell @1    9 years ago

He has done nothing to apologize for. He was not the one pulling a partisan political stunt.

 
 
 
Old Hermit
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1.1.1  Old Hermit  replied to  Rex Block @1.1    9 years ago
He has done nothing to apologize for. He was not the one pulling a partisan political stunt.

By lying about the Congress Woman's 2015 speech "pulling off a partisan political stunt" is exactly what Kelly did and what he should apologize for.

I'm inclined to agree with whichever talking head it was that I heard last night, suggesting that General Kelly should man up, pick up the phone and apologize to the congress women one on one.

Keep the conversation off the books, a talk between the two adults, and then agree that, (for the two of them at least), that would be the end of the subject publicly.

Kelly should take to heart Will Rogers old warning;

Screenshot20171021 A quote by Will Rogers.png

It's stunning how many good reputations have been sacrificed  on the Trump alter over the last 18 months or so.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  seeder  JohnRussell    9 years ago

Post- truth White House

 
 
 
arkpdx
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2.1  arkpdx  replied to  JohnRussell @2    9 years ago

Truth left the White House on 20 January 2009. 

 
 
 
volfan
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2.1.2  volfan  replied to  Release The Kraken @2.1.1    9 years ago

based on the intel from the Clinton era.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.3  Dulay  replied to  volfan @2.1.2    9 years ago
based on the intel from the Clinton era.

I must have missed Colin Powell mentioning to the UN that Bush relied on Clinton era intelligence. 

 
 
 
volfan
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2.1.4  volfan  replied to  Dulay @2.1.3    9 years ago

Well...let's see...Bush elected in Jan 2000. We went into Afghanistan in Oct 2001, to root out the jackass muslim extremists called Al Queada that hit us on Sept 11, and we went after Iraq the following year...duh. Clinton operated the collection of intel from 1992- 2000.

We secretly extracted the last of the "yellowcake" from Iraq in 2008 .

Hope that helps.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.5  Dulay  replied to  volfan @2.1.4    9 years ago
Well...let's see...Bush elected in Jan 2000. We went into Afghanistan in Oct 2001, to root out the jackass muslim extremists called Al Queada that hit us on Sept 11, and we went after Iraq the following year...duh. Clinton operated the collection of intel from 1992- 2000.

Gee, I must have missed all of that during Powell's speech. He used a ton of information that we now KNOW was total bullshit. Some of it, Powell KNEW was bullshit and his OWN people have since documented that fact. 

A fair majority of the rest was derived from 'Curveball', who the Germans informed the US was KNOWN to have fabricated information. That was reported to the US in late 2000 so the 'Clinton operation' found the facts. 

Then, even though they had the 2000 report, the Bush Adminsitration went back to 'Curveball' and EVERYTHING that they used connected to 'Curveball' was gathered from him in early 2003. 

Oh and BTW, we didn't go into Iraq 'the next year'. 

We secretly extracted the last of the "yellowcake" from Iraq in 2008.

Ohhhh, non-fissile yellow cake was moved from a destroyed storage center and sold to Canada. Sheesh. 

Hope that helps.

Actually, since I easily refuted it, not so much...

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.1.6  MrFrost  replied to  volfan @2.1.2    9 years ago
based on the intel from the Clinton era.

Huh? So Bush was too stupid to rely on his own intel? 

 
 
 
Account Deleted
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4  Account Deleted    9 years ago

I have some compassion for Kelly - it was just a few days ago when he was a 4 star general retired - now he's just another politician.

The Trump Machine is sort of like a reverse car wash for all who enter its doors.

It's really not that hard corrupt a a righteous man (or woman) if you know just how to go about it. You start small - using the "greater good" argument...

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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4.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Account Deleted @4    9 years ago

No pity for self-inflicted wounds.  Anybody with eyes could see what he was getting himself into.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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It Is ME
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6  It Is ME    9 years ago

You don't apologize to someone that "politicizes" a military Death in the FIRST place !

You just tell those types to "F" off !

She's a celebrity now......According to her.

Kind of like her "I"....oooohhhhh.....and others too......Did the FBI naming thing to.

Gotta luv self love "ONE TIMERS" !

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  It Is ME @6    9 years ago

President* Trump has contaminated his chief of staff, General John Kelly.

Kelly either made a mistake or lied about Congresswoman Fredrica Wilson's speech that he referred to in his White House press briefing a couple days ago. The video of her entire speech that night has surfaced, and it definitively shows that Kelly spoke falsely about her and the speech.

If Kelly were just General Kelly and not Chief of Staff to Trump Kelly , he could find a way to retract or change his false statement.

But he works for Trump so that can't be done. He is stuck looking bad. That is what happens to everyone who sticks with Trump.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Release The Kraken @6.1.1    9 years ago

The article really isn't about your lack of knowledge, sorry.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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6.1.4  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    9 years ago

The congress Women is the ONLY ass in this entire thing. She Loves the spotlight now put on HER for what SHE started. She doesn't give two shits about the family. If she did, she would have taped her mouth shut before she opened her pie hole.

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2  Dulay  replied to  It Is ME @6    9 years ago
You don't apologize to someone that "politicizes" a military Death in the FIRST place !

No one suggested that he apologize to Trump.

You just tell those types to "F" off !

You'd think Kelly would have said that to Trump instead of going out and running defense for him

She's a celebrity now......According to her.

Actually, Trump made her a celebrity. He can't stop talking about her.

Kind of like her "I"....oooohhhhh.....and others too......Did the FBI naming thing to.

Of course anyone who watched the video of her comments would know that is total fabrication. 

Gotta luv self love "ONE TIMERS" !

I don't but it seems that all too many of the electorate adore the chief narcissist. 

 
 
 
1ofmany
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7  1ofmany    9 years ago

My thoughts.

First of all, I have near zero faith in Trump’s decisions as commander and chief. He was slow to even acknowledge these deaths and has yet to explain what these troops were doing in Niger or the circumstances of the incident. Telling a woman that her husband was killed in combat when she may not have known that he was in a combat area is understandably jolting. 

Second, Trump decided to call the widow personally to express his condolences. Kelly told Trump what he was told when his own son was killed and Trump repeated it to the widow. I don’t see a thing wrong with what he said although, if he said it like he says everything else, it was probably a clumsy delivery. Everybody who signs up knows that they are signing up to kill or be killed. Their families know it too. Don’t want to take the risk? Don’t sign up. 

Third, the widow put Trump on speakerphone. The congresswoman was in the car and overheard the conversation. The conversation wasn’t sacred. There’s nothing wrong with one friend letting another hear the president of the United States expressing his condolences. If Trump wanted a private conversation, then he should have requested it. He didn’t.

Fourth, the widow was offended by Trump calling her husband “her guy” instead of her husband. She can be offended but others may not have been offended at all. She also didn’t like Trump saying that her husband knew what he was getting into. I guess to her that means his death is no bid deal but that’s not what Trump meant nor would other people necessarily take it that way. This really isn’t Trump’s fault. 

Fifth, attacking the congresswoman over her expressing how the family took the conversation is completely unnecessary. All Kelly had to do is say that Trump was giving a fairly standard expression of condolence, apologize for any misunderstanding on her part, decline to discuss it further, and just move on. 

If Trump keeps up a foreign policy based on threats, insults, and ignorance, he may have a chance to polish his condolence speech with practice because he’ll get hundreds or thousands killed. 

 
 

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