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Trump vowed to end the Diversity Visa Lottery Program after the NYC terror attack

  

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Via:  vic-eldred  •  9 years ago  •  49 comments

Trump vowed to end the Diversity Visa Lottery Program after the NYC terror attack

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President Trump on Wednesday vowed to get rid of the Diversity Visa Lottery Program after a terrorist attack the day before in New York City.

"Diversity lottery," he said in Washington, D.C. "It sounds nice, but it's not nice. We want a merit-based system where people come into our country based on merit."

"We need to have strength," Trump added. "We need to have resolve. And we're going to get rid of this lottery program as quickly as possible."

Trump added that he would demand Congress immediately start working on the issue, before accusing Democrats of obstructing his agenda.

"Honestly, they don't want to do what's right for the country," he said. "Terrorists are constantly seeking to strike our nation. We will take all necessary steps to protect our country and our nation as a whole."

Trump also suggested that America's legal system needed to work more quickly to punish convicted terrorists more harshly.

"We also have to come up with punishment that is far greater and far quicker than the punishment these animals are getting now," he said.

"We need quick justice and we need strong justice," Trump added. "It goes through courts for years. What we have right now is a joke and a laughingstock."

Trump additionally said that political correctness was interfering with efforts to keep the U.S. safe from terrorist attacks like Tuesday's bloodshed.

"We have to get much less politically correct," he said. "We're so politically correct we're afraid to do anything. We will never waver in the defense of our beloved country, ever."

Trump noted, however, that his administration is making greater strides against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) than those by former President Barack Obama's.

"They're being decimated," he said of ISIS. "This has never happened. We have done more to annihilate ISIS than eight years of the previous administration."

Trump then suggested he would consider sending suspected New York City attacker Sayfullo Saipov to Guantanamo Bay.

"I would certainly consider that, yes," he said. "Send him to Gitmo. I would consider that."

"They could," Trump added when asked if Saipov's family may pose a similar threat to the U.S. "They certainly could represent a threat."

"What we are demanding is merit-based immigration. We don't want lotteries where the wrong people get into the lottery. And then guess what? Who's the suckers who get him?"

President Trump on Wednesday convened his Cabinet members for a meeting in the White House's Cabinet room in Washington, D.C., according to   Politico .

Wednesday's meeting follows a terrorist attack that killed at least eight people and wounded at least 11 more in New York City Tuesday.

A flatbed truck drove onto the city's popular Hudson River Greenway bike path during the incident, striking pedestrians and leading to a police response.

A police officer on patrol then shot suspected attacker Sayfullo Saipov, 29, while the latter was wielding a pellet gun and a paintball gun.

Trump earlier Tuesday tweeted that the terrorist responsible for the bloodshed in New York City was a "sick and deranged person."

https://www.circa.com/story/2017/11/01/politics/trump-holds-cabinet-meeting-after-nyc-terror-attack


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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1  seeder  Vic Eldred    9 years ago

How many Americans even knew that such a program existed?

Where were the so called "Republicans" when this was passed?

This is why Donald Trump IS needed

 
 
 
Willjay9
Freshman Silent
1.1  Willjay9  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    9 years ago
How many Americans even knew that such a program existed?

Umm seeing as though this program is around 30 years old......

Where were the so called "Republicans" when this was passed?

Umm.....signing it right along with Democrats! The bill had 32 co-sponsors, 7 of which were Republicans and it passed in the House 231-192!

This is why Donald Trump IS needed

Comedy!.......he truly wouldn't lose a vote would he?

 
 
 
Willjay9
Freshman Silent
1.1.2  Willjay9  replied to  Shepboy @1.1.1    9 years ago
People love that stuff when they feel safer,

So....to hell with facts, as long as he can provide a little safespace for the snowflakes they will follow him right off the cliff.......btw, you should be thanking Obama for the economy NOT Trump, as for immigration, it has been steadily going down for the last 4 years.....so no go there for Trump as well.

Here's an interesting note though.....the Diversity Visa is probably one of the hardest visas to get because it requires more vetting and requirements to be eligible, not to mention the countries that are eligible are chosen......but yet Trump wants to do away THIS visa?!

 
 
 
Explorerdog
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1.1.3  Explorerdog  replied to  Willjay9 @1.1.2    9 years ago

True he inherited a strong healthy economy and illegal immigration was in a serious decline, but he is taking credit as his ego demands. His idea of diversity is that citizenship is available like Kushner said for the right price. If you have the money race and ethnicity don't matter, isn't he diverse?

 
 
 
Explorerdog
Freshman Silent
1.1.5  Explorerdog  replied to  Shepboy @1.1.4    9 years ago

Turn off faux they have severely altered your perception of reality, the economy was in a 73 month uninterrupted growth cycle before the poisonous one was anointed. It truly is a sad state of affairs when the total failure of a leader is an attempted masking of history so there is something to proclaim as an achievement no matter how easily refuted. The emperor has no clothes.

 
 
 
Willjay9
Freshman Silent
1.1.6  Willjay9  replied to  Shepboy @1.1.4    9 years ago
Snowflakes are reserved for Liberals / Democrats  find a new word :P

Suurreee it is………it may be reserved but it fits the rightwing sooo well!

LOL oh geez here we go.. The economy didnt take off until Trump was about to be elected.

 laughing dude laughing dude laughing dude

So I guess the 11.5 million jobs that were created under Obama doesn't count huh? I guess the unemployment rating just miraculously did a dip down to 4.3% right the election? I guess the deficit just magically cut itself by 2/3rds on Nov 10th?!

Once people knew he would be, and once he become president, we hit record numbers.. Obama never came close. You can see how stagnant the GDP was when he was in office.

laughing dude Trump can take credit for this GDP because he hasn't come up with a budget and his orders wont take effect until NEXT YEAR! This is still Obama'slaughing dude

YOu dont get to claim glory for Obama, for the work Trump is doing.

You don know that an sustained economy doesn't work off praises and warm and fuzzies right?! Name me ONE working policy that Trump has put together that can be attributed to the economy JUST ONE WORKING POLICY

Wrong again, and the ICE agencies have praised Trump for them being allowed to do their job correctly and without limitations.

Bullshit! Once again none of Trump's policies and orders aren't fully in effect yet nor were they in effect when those number came out! And its delusional to believe that the people that risked literal death by varies means to cross the border would be scared of Trump's blustering?!

Trump is the reason why illegals are being cut down

Yeah keep telling yourself that!

It chains too much to bring other family in. We need a merit based system. We need people who wish to be assimilated into the American Identity and collective and not come here trying to be renegades making their nations beliefs , ours.  They need to become Americans.. not turn Americans into other people from other nations.

That is totally ridicoulous! American Identity?! Exactly what is that? Explain to me what an American Identity is? Last time I checked our identity is made up of many nations beliefs, and culture......that's what made us special, so whenever I hear someone say that, that's just a cop out for them wanting to discriminate.

 
 
 
Willjay9
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1.1.7  Willjay9  replied to  Shepboy @1.1.4    9 years ago

That's like a starter in a basketball game who singlehandedly has his team up by 20 fouls out and then the second string comes in 1 minute before the game is over, the team wins by 4 only for the 2nd stringer to start bragging about how he won the game all by himself!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.8  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Willjay9 @1.1    9 years ago
Umm seeing as though this program is around 30 years old......

It dosent matter how old the program is - most people never heard of it.

Umm.....signing it right along with Democrats! The bill had 32 co-sponsors, 7 of which were Republicans and it passed in the House 231-192!

Umm ... That is my point - Republicans have been complicit in all of this

Comedy!.......he truly wouldn't lose a vote would he?

Not for you - he's your worst nightmare! Amen.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.9  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Willjay9 @1.1.2    9 years ago
So....to hell with facts,

What facts?

That wev'e had this diversity Visa Lottery program and now people have been murdered.  Here is a fact - Donald Trump is gonna shut that program down!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.10  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Explorerdog @1.1.3    9 years ago
True he inherited a strong healthy economy and illegal immigration was in a serious decline, but he is taking credit as his ego demands.

What Trump inherited was the weakest economic "recovery" in history with European style growth numbers, a poorly designed, poorly executed health care law, a foreign policy in complete disarray with North Korea now armed with nuclear missiles and a $20 trillion federal deficit. Thank you Barak Obama.

 
 
 
Willjay9
Freshman Silent
1.1.11  Willjay9  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.9    9 years ago
What facts?

Oh! I forgot.....facts do have a liberal bias therefore you probably just ignored them!

That wev'e had this diversity Visa Lottery program and now people have been murdered.

Ok?! We have a justice system and people are still being murdered.....your point?

Here is a fact - Donald Trump is gonna shut that program down!

Comedy! So he is going to shut down a program that actually goes along with his concept of EXTRA VETTING?! Boy! You Trumpeteers do have a problem with facts especially when it gets in the way of your "truth". And the most idiotic part about this is if Trump actually works this right this program can be the platform he can build on to get his policy of extreme vetting off!

 
 
 
Willjay9
Freshman Silent
1.1.12  Willjay9  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.8    9 years ago
It dosent matter how old the program is - most people never heard of it.

You mean YOU never heard of it.....

Umm ... That is my point - Republicans have been complicit in all of this

No, you point to was to assert that Democrats snuck this one in without bipartisan support!

Not for you - he's your worst nightmare!

No, my worst nightmare is the people that voted for him.....Trump is temporary, his voters aren't.

Amen.

Like I said......wouldn't lose a vote!

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
1.1.14  It Is ME  replied to  Willjay9 @1.1.12    9 years ago

Should the DVP stay in effect ?

How much more diversity do we actually need !

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.15  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  It Is ME @1.1.14    9 years ago
How much more diversity do we actually need !

Good question.

This is a very diverse world, how much do we really want to limit the diversity in this country and how much do we allow ?

I'd say a whole article could easily be devoted to this question. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
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1.1.16  It Is ME  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @1.1.15    9 years ago
This is a very diverse world, how much do we really want to limit the diversity in this country ?

When every diverse possibility is already here, again I ask.....How much more do we need ?

We have every color in the spectrum.

We have every religion known to man.

We have every type of nut job on this planet.

We have every ideology you can think of.

We have every business type you can think of.

We have every sexual preference you can think of.

We have every......................EVERYTHING........ except enough SMART people ! 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.17  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  It Is ME @1.1.16    9 years ago
When every diverse possibility is already here

Every human is a diversity.

Surely they are not all here and never will be. Thank God as this country isn't big enough.....LOL 

 
 
 
It Is ME
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1.1.18  It Is ME  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @1.1.17    9 years ago
Surely they are not all here and never will be

Yes they are .... unless your trying to be cute and say the entire population of this earth doesn't live on this landmass !

Which diverse type isn't here again ?

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.19  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  It Is ME @1.1.18    9 years ago
Which diverse type isn't here again ?

yeah We are a pretty diverse country already. 

Aren't we also one of the worlds strongest countries as well.  

Wonder if that is just a coincidence ?

 
 
 
It Is ME
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1.1.20  It Is ME  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @1.1.19    9 years ago
yeah We are a pretty diverse country already.

Not "Pretty".......VERY !

"Aren't we also one of the worlds strongest countries as well. " 

"Wonder if that is just a coincidence ?"

Seems to me, if you look at this countries History in it's short 300 years or so of actual governed existence, we were "Stronger" than other countries, before this diversity REQUIREMENT !

Remember when this young limited governed country defeated the strongest military in the world ?

Did you know that the other countries of this planet have been around for thousands and thousands of years, before this country actually came to be what it is now? Yet they can't seem to match a country that is only 300 or so years old.

What is the DVP program doing for us now ?

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.21  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  It Is ME @1.1.20    9 years ago
we were "Strong" before this diversity REQUIREMENT !

Seems to me , we were pretty diversified before the requirement as well. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
1.1.22  It Is ME  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @1.1.21    9 years ago
we were pretty diversified before the requirement as well.

No !

Back 300 years or so, their were limits on who was whom !

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.23  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  It Is ME @1.1.22    9 years ago

I'm no  history buff, but haven't we had people from most nationalities here for very long time and didn't they contribute to building this country as well ?

 
 
 
It Is ME
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1.1.24  It Is ME  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @1.1.23    9 years ago
history buff, but haven't we had people from most nationalities here for very long time and didn't they contribute to building this country as well ?

Sure....after awhile. But those "Others" went through one place, before they were admitted. Now.....they come through willy nilly from ALL our borders, at our "Representatives" consent. Thus the problem with the DVP ! It's just a "Feel Good" policy, not a "Protection policy" !

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.25  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  It Is ME @1.1.24    9 years ago
It's just a "Feel Good" policy, not a "Protection policy" !

OR is the repeal of this policy really about "protection" or "feel good" ?  

How many immigrants came here under this diversification policy and how many bad actors have there been resulting from this policy?  

Info like that seems relevant.   Is it even being considered is also a good question IMO.  

Trump seems like he reacts many times from emotion first. Later he reevaluates his responses and many times he changes them. Is this  also a gut reaction from our leader ? Who knows ? Not I.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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1.1.26  It Is ME  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @1.1.25    9 years ago
How many immigrants came here under this diversification policy and how many bad actors have there been resulting from this policy.

We don't seem to look at that anymore, until something bad happens.....Like this latest "Manhattan project". When you can bring in your entire family when YOU win the DVP lottery.....up to 20 or 25 persons.......if they really are part of your family....based on the DVP rules......"Houston, we have a problem" !

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
1.1.27  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @1.1.25    9 years ago
Is this  also a gut reaction from our leader ?

Of course it is. It's reactionary, does nothing to make us safer but makes his base of xenophobes happy because they hate and fear all immigrants. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
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1.1.28  It Is ME  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.27    9 years ago
Of course it is. It's reactionary, does nothing to make us safer but makes his base of xenophobes happy because they hate and fear all immigrants.

Thank goodness you aren't afraid, or the attacks in this country could become meaningful when it comes to a "Lottery" win to come here !close call

Just keep 'em coming. "Bodies", meaning anyone and not DEAD people, are better than nothing.....right ? Digging a whole

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.29  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  It Is ME @1.1.26    9 years ago
We don't seem to look at that anymore, until something bad happens.

True, My question is did we look at it this time ? OR is this repeal of a long standing policy just a knee jerk reaction. As another feel good thing (which actually kills freedom and gives the terrorists another indirect hit on us)

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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1.1.30  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  It Is ME @1.1.28    9 years ago
Just keep 'em coming. "Bodies", meaning anyone

Immigration has always been a part of America. Vetting Everyone coming here is a good idea in today's world.

However, after seeing the shit job trump seems to have done with his own vetting , I suggest he not be in charge of vetting immigrants.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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1.1.31  It Is ME  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @1.1.30    9 years ago
However, after seeing the shit job trump seems to have done with his own vetting

In case you didn't notice, Trump isn't doing anything the other Presidents haven't tried or done, and the Miniscule courts that hate him, keep turning his "Same Ideas" down.

"I suggest he not be in charge of vetting immigrants."

The ones that have been in charge, before Trump even became a blip on the screen, haven't been doing a good job.

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
1.1.32  It Is ME  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @1.1.29    9 years ago
True, My question is did we look at it this time ?

Apparently, this guy wasn't a blip on the FBI radar, even though the FBI was looking at the people he was supposedly conversing with.

Does that make sense to you ?

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Silent
1.1.33  Colour Me Free  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @1.1.29    9 years ago
As another feel good thing (which actually kills freedom and gives the terrorists another indirect hit on us)

I can only offer my opinion, but I do think with the changing of the times, along with the need for redefining/reforming of immigration - all things on the books need to be revisited .. which does not necessarily mean eliminating programs all together, but more of a regrouping to see what all is out there.  Immigration has become convoluted - time to untangle things a bit?

  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.36  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Willjay9 @1.1.12    9 years ago
You mean YOU never heard of it.....

No - I mean MOST PEOPLE.  Maybe you and your professors have heard of it, but most Americans havent 

No, you point to was to assert that Democrats snuck this one in without bipartisan support!

Wrong again - my point was democrats led on this and Republicans went along. That's why Trump won that primary

No, my worst nightmare is the people that voted for him.....Trump is temporary, his voters aren't.

For once we agree and we take no prisoners

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
1.1.37  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.8    9 years ago

Soon after the visa lottery took effect I had a young Canadian actress as a client who succeeded in winning the lottery and she wound up getting a great job as a stand-in for a well-known Hollywood actress whom she resembled. They would not have had any difficulty in accepting her after vetting.  Back then I thought it was an excellent program, but unfortunately criminals or those who have the propensity to become terrorists seem to have eluded the vetting. Perhaps it is the quality of the vetting that has failed, rather than the fact that it is more extreme than normal. I recall reading articles a while ago about many immigrants whose documentation was lost, or who were passed carelessly.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.38  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.37    9 years ago

I'm sure there are stories of people who benefited by it and became an asset, however we live in dangerous times and the safety of citizens comes first. Whatever the plus/minus of that program was it now needs to be terminated.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
1.1.39  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.38    9 years ago

I think that there should be a merit aspect to it if it is going to remain. Canada has a point system for desirable qualifications along with whether the skill is one that is needed.  I think the main problem with the American vetting has to do with the incompetence and carelessness of those who do the vetting.

 
 

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