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3 dead after random shooting at Colorado Walmart, suspect still at-large

  

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Via:  johnrussell  •  9 years ago  •  113 comments

3 dead after random shooting at Colorado Walmart, suspect still at-large

The man wanted for a deadly shooting at a Walmart in Colorado on Wednesday night has been identified by police as 47-year-old Scott Ostrem.

He fled the scene in a red Mitsubishi Mirage and is still at large, according to the Thornton Police Department. He should be considered “armed and dangerous,” police said.

Two men and one woman were killed in what police say was a "random" shooting.

The suspect was wearing a black jacket, maroon shirt and jeans when he nonchalantly walked in the front door of the Walmart in the Denver suburb of Thornton and opened fire with a handgun, randomly targeting people in the front of the store near the registers. Ostrem then exited the store, got into a car and drove away, police said after reviewing security footage from the store.

Amid an ongoing manhunt for the gunman, police released a surveillance photo of the suspect and his car late Wednesday.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    9 years ago

Walmart shooting incident, person and vehicle of interest, remain anonymous, call Crime Stoppers 720-913-7867

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  seeder  JohnRussell    9 years ago

No Trump tweets yet on this act of terror but we will keep our eyes open for it. 

 
 
 
Rex Block
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2.1  Rex Block  replied to  JohnRussell @2    9 years ago

To soon to tell if it was an act of terror at this point.

Is it wrong for Trump to comment about the attack in NY by a radical Muslim follower of ISIS?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Rex Block @2.1    9 years ago

It is highly unlikely this Walmart shooting was a terrorist attack. 

But it is "just like" a terrorist attack, isn't it? Random shooting, no warning, no causal factors. 

Aren't these Americans just as dead even though it was not jihadist? 

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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2.1.2  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Rex Block @2.1    9 years ago

To think, in Colorado they have the "Make My Day Law" and, there were no good guys with guns to stop him.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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2.1.3  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @2.1.2    9 years ago

We will get him this isn't Chicago where this crap goes unpunished.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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2.1.6  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  XDm9mm @2.1.4    9 years ago

ever incident like this results in the same dialog.

take away the guns... protect yourself....

nothing changes, nothing is done and the next incident we well all say the same hing.

insanity at it's finest.

 
 
 
Spikegary
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2.1.7  Spikegary  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.5    9 years ago

No, it means that Chicago, people are murdering each other at an alarming rate, so alarming that it has become passé on the news.  While people complain about cop shootings across the U.S., the numbers are nowhere near Chicago's murder numbers-and very few people are talking about that.

 
 
 
Explorerdog
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2.1.9  Explorerdog  replied to  Spikegary @2.1.7    9 years ago

Ever been to Miami? Philadelphia? White male, anyone want to guess if tRump even notices.

 
 
 
Explorerdog
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2.1.10  Explorerdog  replied to  XDm9mm @2.1.4    9 years ago

As long as people are willing to do this sort of thing there will always be a place they can do it. If a cop was stationed in the front door he would have simply been the first target. Police regardless of their favorite motto are not there to serve and protect, they are on the job to enforce the law and if in that exercise they can protect they will. It is just like being a pedestrian, if you are not observant of your surroundings you might become a victim.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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2.1.11  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  XDm9mm @2.1.4    9 years ago

How come in states like Colorado with the "Make My Day Laws" shootings seem to be more often instead of less often? It seems that if they have such a law that people would be less likely to pull a gun on someone or, walk into a theatre since according to people like you, with such laws in place there will be more "good people with guns", seems to be just the opposite is true.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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2.1.13  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  XDm9mm @2.1.8    9 years ago
When what is always proposed is an infringement on rights, or otherwise unconstitutional, there will always be pushback.

Mainly when this shit happens I advocate for more mental health help for the mentally ill, that doesn't infringe on anyone's rights that I know of. And America sure needs it. 

And nothing changes. See ya next time.

 
 
 
Spikegary
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2.1.14  Spikegary  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.12    9 years ago

No, bigots are the ones that believe 'Chicago' is a buzz word for 'Blacks'.  Right now it's a buzzword for shootings.

 
 
 
Spikegary
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2.1.15  Spikegary  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @2.1.11    9 years ago

Like California?  New York?  Illinois?  Where are you talking about besides Colorado?

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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2.1.16  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Spikegary @2.1.15    9 years ago

Florida, Texas, Nevada.

 
 
 
Willjay9
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2.1.17  Willjay9  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @2.1.2    9 years ago
there were no good guys with guns to stop him.

They were probably hiding behind the customer service desk....wetting themselves

 
 
 
Willjay9
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2.1.18  Willjay9  replied to  Dean Moriarty @2.1.3    9 years ago
We will get him this isn't Chicago where this crap goes unpunished.

Seriously dude? Umm....maybe the reason "WE" will get him is because they have an name and picture of the suspect!.....duh!

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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2.1.20  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Rex Block @2.1    9 years ago
Is it wrong for Trump to comment about the attack in NY by a radical Muslim follower of ISIS?

Why hasn't he called NYC's mayor or the state's governor?  Why is he politically attacking the one of that state's senators?  Why is he such a piece of shit?  

 
 
 
Rex Block
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2.1.21  Rex Block  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.5    9 years ago
We know what you mean by Chicago - it's a buzz word for 'blacks' and President Obama.

Obama remained quiet about the problem...and what is Mayor Rahm doing about it?

Play the race whenever you think it will work, but it doesn't in this case.

 
 
 
Willjay9
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2.1.24  Willjay9  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @2.1.11    9 years ago

I think you're confusing Colorado's Make My Day Law (called the Castle Doctrine in other states) with the Stand Your Ground Law (nicknamed the Make My Day law).

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2    9 years ago
but we will keep our eyes open for it.

I'm sure you will.  You all still need your daily freakout.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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2.2.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2    9 years ago

You all still need your daily freakout.

Said the crusted old pot to the clean, shiny kettle. 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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3  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu     9 years ago

   The best to all involved.

I'm actually surprised we dont see more of this considering the amount of untreated mental illness and the number of guns floating around in America in non responsible hands. 

Issues which nothing is ever done about. 

So of course we can expect more of this.

 
 
 
Rex Block
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3.1  Rex Block  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @3    9 years ago

I'm sure that we will find out that he purchased his gun legally and had never been adjudicated for mental illness.

Liberals seem to think that treating mental illness is quick and easy, and that the fix is permanent. They will lament about lack of funding

Meanwhile, we know more about the NY terrorist than we do about the Las Vegas shooter. Why has that story gone eerily quiet??

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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3.1.1  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Rex Block @3.1    9 years ago
Liberals seem to think that treating mental illness is quick and easy, and that the fix is permanent.

You seem to know a lot about how liberals think. Do you know what us independant think as well ?

Mental illness is rampant this country yet it is totally underfunded and ignored for the most part.

You are correct about most mental illnesses being temporary though, many times once the chemical imbalance is corrected (usually by medications) the insane person returns to normal.

And even if this individual did buy his gun legally there are millions of guns in irresponsible people hands who for a quick few bucks could be anyone's.

But lets ignore all that shall we and focus on something else. This is too complicated to solve. 

It really is and I dont see it changing. 

 
 
 
Rex Block
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3.1.2  Rex Block  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @3.1.1    9 years ago
even if this individual did buy his gun legally there are millions of guns in irresponsible people hands who for a quick few bucks could be anyone's.
And it will always be thus, because guns can change hands in multiple ways regardless of any laws. And sadly, people have the freedom to act irresponsibly and evilly if they so choose.
According to local media, he has been captured a short time ago.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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3.1.3  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Rex Block @3.1.2    9 years ago
yep and I dont see it changing.
So surely we can expect more of this.
That is the answer, not the one anyones looking for though.
 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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3.1.5  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.4    9 years ago

I thought it was because he's dead. 

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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3.1.11  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.6    9 years ago
The Las Vegas shooter took great pains to hide his tracks and motive.

It was a terrorist attack, plain and, simple. You don't open up with guns that have bump stocks on them on a crowd of people unless you are intending to create terror, that makes it terrorism and, you don't have to be a Muslim to be a terrorist.

 
 
 
Explorerdog
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3.1.12  Explorerdog  replied to  Rex Block @3.1    9 years ago

News reports seldom if ever open a story only to say they know nothing, are we now going to have an Alex Jones moment?

 
 
 
Rex Block
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3.1.18  Rex Block  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.16    9 years ago

You mentioned his race.

That statement was racist.

You of all people ought to understand your own "buzzwords" like "white".

 
 
 
Rex Block
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3.1.19  Rex Block  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @3.1.11    9 years ago
You don't open up with guns that have bump stocks on them on a crowd of people unless you are intending to create terror, that makes it terrorism and, you don't have to be a Muslim to be a terrorist.

Nobody is arguing with that, but WHY has the investigation and all the people involved in it gone so silent, like there is something to cover up?

 
 
 
Rex Block
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3.1.20  Rex Block  replied to  Explorerdog @3.1.12    9 years ago

Who's Alex Jones?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @3    9 years ago
Issues which nothing is ever done about.

I wouldn't say that.  They "banned" a flag.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4  Sparty On    9 years ago

It all went to hell in a hand-basket in Michigan when we decided we couldn't afford to operate all the State Mental institutions and shut them down.   Homelessness immediately shot up, jails started to fill up, shelters became overloaded, petty crime went up.

They were not the most pleasant of places but they served a purpose.   Our current system is obviously failing.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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4.1  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Sparty On @4    9 years ago

The same thing happened in a town I lived in as a kid. Raygun shut down the mental health hospitals and the insane flooded our streets. Crime shot up and people started locking everything up. 

I guess there was a price to pay saving that money. We paid it for years. Slowly things got back to normal in the town but it took years for those people to find other help, move on or end up behind bars for something.

Now it isn't much better there is still a shortage of help for the millions of mentally ill people in this country. 

I guess there is still a price to pay. And some people pay it for us all. 

 
 
 
Spikegary
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4.1.2  Spikegary  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @4.1    9 years ago

Reagan was shutting down Mental Hospitals in your town?  I wonder why he picked your town?  Or maybe it wasn't Reagan?

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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4.1.4  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Spikegary @4.1.2    9 years ago

In 1967, Gov. Ronald Reagan signed the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act (LPS), which went into effect in 1969 and quickly became a national model. Among other things, it prohibited forced medication or extended hospital stays without a judicial hearing.

Yeah it was the boggy man. LOL  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @4.1.4    9 years ago

So Congress stopped the funding. 

 
 
 
Spikegary
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4.1.6  Spikegary  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @4.1.4    9 years ago

So, take it a step farther.......why was it signed into law?  Court battles against the entire Mental Health System in the U.S.?

 
 
 
arkpdx
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4.1.7  arkpdx  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @4.1.4    9 years ago

Yiu forgot to mention that the bill was a bipartisan effort. And if you read it it did not defund mental health hospitals but limited involuntary commitment. Voluntary commitments were still allowed as were commitments brcause of criminal convictions. 

 
 
 
Rex Block
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4.1.8  Rex Block  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @4.1    9 years ago

Usually these killers are quite sane, know right from wrong, and evilly decide to chose wrong, and KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND WHY. Most criminals are legally and medically sane, they simply chose to commit crimes.

 
 
 
Rex Block
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4.1.9  Rex Block  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.3    9 years ago

Because the Democrats in their idiocy thought being locked up was cruel, and wanted the mentally ill to be mainstreamed back into the broader society. It's all there in the historical record, but I am not going to look it up for you.

 
 
 
Rex Block
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4.1.10  Rex Block  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @4.1.4    9 years ago
it prohibited forced medication or extended hospital stays without a judicial hearing.
Hmmm, it sound like a lot of illegal activity was going on back in the day.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  seeder  JohnRussell    9 years ago

The gun was burning a hole in his pocket. Itchy trigger finger brought on by gun love. 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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5.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  JohnRussell @5    9 years ago

I’m glad it wasn’t a UHaul rental truck burning a hole in his pocket. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Dean Moriarty @5.1    9 years ago

What's the use of having a nice pistol if you can't shoot somebody with it? 

 
 
 
Spikegary
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5.1.2  Spikegary  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    9 years ago

What's the use of renting a truck if you can't run someone down with it?

 
 
 
Iamak47
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5.1.3  Iamak47  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    9 years ago

Please don't ever buy a gun.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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5.1.4  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Dean Moriarty @5.1    9 years ago

Colorado seems to have some pretty high profile mass shootings in their history.  Mass murder with U-Hauls - not so much.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.1.5  Sparty On  replied to  Iamak47 @5.1.3    9 years ago

Now "that" ..... is good one.

Bravo!

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @5    9 years ago

Yeah "Love Gun" ...... i enjoyed that tune back in the day .......

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.2  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.1    9 years ago

Wow, the venom is especially voluminous today but like usual problems with your comments inevitably arise.

First all Love Gun wasn't Gene Simmons song.   Paul Stanley wrote, produced and sang the song.   Simmons had nothing to do it.

Second i realize you are probably more of Iggy Azalea fan since she doesn't write songs about genitalia you hate but but rather about genitalia you love but no worries.  Comment removed for skirting [ph]

Lastly, no cares what you think about "Love Gun" except you.   I know i don't.

Comment removed for skirting [ph]

 
 
 
Rex Block
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5.2.3  Rex Block  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.2    9 years ago

The person in question isn't very bright.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.2.4  Sparty On  replied to  Rex Block @5.2.3    9 years ago

Bright enough i think, she's just really pissed off at certain things in this world ...... like most men ..... specifically white men for some reason.   Now if you're a conservation white male?

Fahgetaboutit!

 
 
 
Explorerdog
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5.3  Explorerdog  replied to  JohnRussell @5    9 years ago

More like some perceived slight or need to be something other than an invisible loser, in another place he would throw acid or some other equally barbarous action.

 
 
 
Rex Block
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5.4  Rex Block  replied to  JohnRussell @5    9 years ago

No, he just wanted to kill some people. The gun was the tool. He could have used a truck.

Very likely he is a liberal, as almost all the mass killers have been.

 
 
 
Freefaller
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6  Freefaller    9 years ago

Though I hate to draw the conversation away from the standard politics, race, religion aspects I would like to express my condolences the friends and family of the dead and injured.

I also hope that this pos had some cause or ideal for this crime cause otherwise this shit just doesn't make sense to me.

 
 

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