"ANTIFA" RESPONSIBLE FOR SUTHERLAND SPRINGS MURDERS, ACCORDING TO FAR-RIGHT MEDIA
For anyone monitoring America’s far-right, it was only a matter of time before Devin Patrick Kelley, the man identified as the Sutherland Springs, Texas, shooter, became “antifa.” Antifa, a leftist protest movement with no organizational hierarchy whatsoever, was blamed for the mass shooting in Las Vegas by Alex Jones’ conspiracy website Info Wars.
They were responsible for allegedly plotting a civil war involving supersoldiers Saturday—one that utterly failed to manifest. And on Sunday, after a man murdered at least 26 people in a Texas church, the right’s conspiracy peddlers waited only a matter of hours to try to blame the violence on leftists. Police did not immediately announce Kelley's motive
But Mike Cernovich, a self-described “American nationalist,” posted about the motive shortly after news of it broke. “Mass shooting at The First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, which has a largely white denomination,” Cernovich wrote. “Antifa terrorist attack?”
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Alex Jones, who devoted his entire Saturday to doing live coverage on his web-show Info Wars on a second American civil war that absolutely never happened, also pushed the idea that the shooter could somehow be an antifa activist. “Was this part of the Antifa revolution against Christians and conservatives or a Isis op? [sic],” Jones tweeted Sunday afternoon to promote his show. “Live from the church.”
Alex Jones: Making America Ridiculous Again!
I generally eschew violence, but that guy needs a punch to the throat.
A nice muzzle might be a useful idem.
Interesting article-- has a lot more examples of extreme craziness from extremist nutjobs.
Interesting!
The left likes to point out the violence of the right and blame Trump. But violence against churches that happens isn't a byproduct of the left's vocal anti Christian contempt?
ausmth, I doubt that the violence against church's (people) is a byproduct of the left's anti Christian contempt. First off many ''leftist'' are religious and church goers. In the case of the Texas church shooting it's reported that the shooter is a Bible studies teacher.
Was the shooter right or left, I don't know. What I do know is that he is crazy.
I do know that Alex Jones is a babbling liar that does not have a grip on reality.
Let's the tell whole story. He taught bible studies years ago.
He's been a vocal atheist who uses social media to verbally attack believers.
Fine, tell the whole story Sean, the article I read made no mention of ''years ago''....The bottom line is that trying to blame ''leftist'' for this tragedy is pure BS.
He was an atheist. That comes from people who knew him. and is being reported on as well.
The guy has had mental issues since hs from reports I have read. Someday mental healthcare will be looked at the same way people are treated for the cold or flu. No stigma and no reason to not seek help.
After just reading krishna's post on Alex Jones, this has a similar feel. If christians feel contempt from people they should check their behavior and see if perhaps they deserve it. But instead why don't we look to see why a violent guy (domestic abuser) has such easy access to weapons. Or why he didn't get mental health care?
Now we find out he was an atheist.
His court martial for domestic abuse would put him on the prohibited list for gun purchases. Got to figure out how he got past that.
Someday this country will wake up and make mental healthcare as normal as going to the dr for a cold. I wish there were at least one mental health pro in each family practice clinic. At one time or another we all could use a hand in coping with life's problems. The hs counselor friend of mine was a great help to me in dealing with grief after my mom died.
Dear Friend Ausmth: I concur with your points about how we do not take proper care of the needs of those with emotional challenges in our society.
For this we continue to pay a high price indeed.
As a Chaplain I see all too often those with illnesses of the body, the mind and the soul.
Most of what is covered by health care insurance is of the body alone.
There is a mind body connection with respect to mental hygiene challenges.
For "choleh ruach" (sicknesses of the spirit) there are Chaplains and/or Pastors.
We need to do better in accepting mental hygiene challenges as the illnesses they are.
We would do well to make care affordable and available to those in need.
As in all areas of life, the sooner and more accurately a problem is diagnosed and treated, the cheaper the price tag, and the better the outcome.
Peace and Abundant Blessings with the Good Health to Enjoy Them to One and All.
Enoch.
Dear friend Enoch,
It has been too long since we last talked. I hope you are well. I am doing well but my wife has a liver issue. From the pulpit yesterday I teased her that she needs to lay off the scotch. The congregation had a good chuckle but I thought I was going to have to walk home.
Someday this world will wake up and realize that at one time or another we all need a little help with all of the stuff that bounces around in our brains. I was fortunate that I had a friend with a counseling degree and decades of experience. He helped me deal with grief instead of letting the grief hollow me out. Not everyone is so fortunate.
What happens is that acts like this happen and the whole country sees that the shooter was mentally troubled for most of his life. Instead of a unified bipartisan effort to help the relatively few with serious mental issues we get lost in an argument over gun control that affects all. Instead of targeting the problem we take our eyes off the problem and get nothing accomplished. Sadly that is already happening on this forum.
Improvements in the mental health system should not be a political issue but a goal for all.
Dear Friend and Brother in Spirit Ausmth: I wish your wife a complete and speedy recovery from her health challenge.
We do indeed all need a helping hand at more than one time in our lives.
We are also given to be there to help others when they need it.
Reaching out for help is never a sign of weakness.
Rather it can be our greatest strength.
I concur.
This isn't about guns or politics.
It is about addressing a health issue.
United we stand.
Divided we all suffer.
Most with mental hygiene issues are non-violent.
Most fatal gunshot woulds are self inflicted (suicide).
We do need to stay focused here.
Mass shootings get the headlines.
We are far more likely to become disabled or die prematurely by pollution than being shot.
There are many reasons to fund mental hygiene challenge cares.
Problem and cost containment, mostly not related to mass shootings are the issue here.
Media is concerned, as a business, with ratings.
Outlandish things get national attention.
That is the rind.
When we eat pineapple, we do not bite into the rind.
That would not bode well for our lips mouth teeth and gums.
Cut through the rind and get to the fruit of the matter.
That is and ought to be our goal here.
Peace, Abundant Blessings and the Good Health to Enjoy Them to You and Yours, My good Friend. Always.
Enoch.
Well said my friend!
It's time to look at what we agree on and act.
seems that the real tragedy for some is that this act of terrorism can't be blamed on a Muslim or a liberal.
Wait for the spin.
I've heard reports today saying the shooter's mother-in-law was a parishioner in that church, and his motive was most likely domestic anger issues.
From the Washington Post -
"While authorities have not publicly identified a motive for the attack, they emphasized that the shooting did not appear to be fueled by racial or religious issues, as has been the case involving other rampages at houses of worship . Instead, they said the gunman had sent “threatening texts” to his mother-in-law as part of this ongoing dispute."