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Fusion GPS official met with Russian operative before and after Trump Jr. sit-down

  

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Via:  johnathon  •  9 years ago  •  104 comments

Fusion GPS official met with Russian operative before and after Trump Jr. sit-down

The co-founder of Fusion GPS, the firm behind the unverified Trump dossier, met with a Russian lawyer before and after a key meeting she had last year with Trump’s son, Fox News has learned. The contacts shed new light on how closely tied the firm was to Russian interests, at a time when it was financing research to discredit then-candidate Donald Trump.

The opposition research firm has faced renewed scrutiny after litigation revealed that the DNC and Hillary Clinton’s campaign paid for that research. Congressional Republicans have since questioned whether that politically financed research contributed to the FBI’s investigation of Russian collusion with the Trump campaign – making Fusion’s 2016 contacts with Russian interests all the more relevant.


In this photo taken on Tuesday, Nov. 8, 2016, Kremlin-linked lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya speaks to a journalist in Moscow, Russia.  President Donald Trump's eldest son changed his account of the meeting he had with a Russian lawyer during the 2016 campaign over the weekend, saying Sunday July 9, 2017, that Natalia Veselnitskaya told him she had information about Clinton. A statement from Donald Trump Jr. one day earlier made no mention of Clinton. (Yury Martyanov /Kommersant Photo via AP) RUSSIA OUT

Veselnitskaya met with Trump Jr. in June, 2016, ostensibly to discuss sanctions against Russia



The June 2016 Trump Tower meeting involving Donald Trump Jr. and Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya occurred during a critical period. At that time, Fox News has learned that bank records show Fusion GPS was paid by a law firm for work on behalf of a Kremlin-linked oligarch while paying a former British spy Christopher Steele to dig up dirt on Trump through his Russian contacts. 

But hours before the Trump Tower meeting on June 9, 2016, Fusion co-founder and ex-Wall Street Journal reporter Glenn Simpson was with Veselnitskaya in a Manhattan federal courtroom, a confidential source told Fox News. Court records reviewed by Fox News, email correspondence and published reports corroborate the pair’s presence together. The source told Fox News they also were together after the Trump Tower meeting. 

"What we are finding out is that there is a lot of Russian influence in Washington, and a lot of money flowing in to influence our political process in Washington."


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/07/fusion-gps-official-met-with-russian-operative-before-and-after-trump-jr-sit-down.html


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Willjay9
Freshman Silent
4  Willjay9    9 years ago

COMEDY! Leave it to Fox "News" to leave out key pieces of information like the meeting took place at a federal courthouse just a couple of hours before the meeting and again immediately after the meeting. Also once again this 6th degrees of separation is a joke! To try to equate this as the same thing is ridiculous! It like someone who robbed a pawn shop to a person who unwittingly bought the stolen items from that person who robbed the pawn shop! Both are guilty of having possession of stolen items but the person who robbed the pawn shop is guilty of robbery!

 
 
 
JaneDoe
Sophomore Silent
4.1  JaneDoe  replied to  Willjay9 @4    9 years ago
COMEDY! Leave it to Fox "News" to leave out key pieces of information like the meeting took place at a federal courthouse just a couple of hours before the meeting and again immediately after the meeting.

That's odd. Just curious if you read the article? I did and they did mention where the meeting took place.

From the article.

But hours before the Trump Tower meeting on June 9, 2016, Fusion co-founder and ex-Wall Street Journal reporter Glenn Simpson was with Veselnitskaya in a Manhattan federal courtroom, a confidential source told Fox News. Court records reviewed by Fox News, email correspondence and published reports corroborate the pair’s presence together. The source told Fox News they also were together after the Trump Tower meeting. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5  JBB    9 years ago

The standard for guilt in the worst cases of political corruption including conspiracies to commit treason has always been evidence of a quid pro quo or more plainly put an agreement where both parties commit criminal acts in the expectation of receiving something in return as in, "We agree to do such and such for you if you will do such and such for us", such as was the case when the Trump campaign comspired with the Russians to remove economic sanctions against Russia and Russian business interests in exchange for help in getting Trump elected. Let us just agree it does not look good for Trump and Co...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Expert
5.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @5    9 years ago
such as was the case when the Trump campaign comspired with the Russians to remove economic sanctions against Russia and Russian business interests in exchange for help in getting Trump elected. Let us just agree it does not look good for Trump and Co...

When did they do that? And IF they did, why are they still on the street? I will await your link to prove your "premise".............

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.1.1  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1    9 years ago

When did they do that? And IF they did, why are they still on the street? I will await your link to prove your "premise".............

You really must get outside that bubble or else Mueller's report is going to floor you...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/trump-campaign-guts-gops-anti-russia-stance-on-ukraine/2016/07/18/98adb3b0-4cf3-11e6-a7d8-13d06b37f256_story.html?utm_term=.52a46197907d

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Expert
5.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @5.1.1    9 years ago

First link uses the dossier as "proof"- FAIL

Second link "Trump staffers wrote an amendment to Denman’s amendment that stripped out the platform’s call for “providing lethal defensive weapons” and replaced it with softer language calling for “appropriate assistance.” - OH NOOOOOO..........Pfft

Third link, they say more friendly to Russia, how about less intrusive but supportive still to Ukraine.....

I'd go on but seems perusing it seems like the same "it seems as though the CAMPAIGN was trying to soften the language" stuff. I appreciate the links as I do like to get both sides of the story however, just WHAT do they prove? To you, it PROVES (yeah right) that Mr. Trump's campaign was in bed with the Ruskies. To me, it means they were trying to be a little less "global police" and "winner pickers" like the previous administration. IMPASSE?

Have a good day.....

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.1.3  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.2    9 years ago

If you think you have a case then take it up with Congress or Inspector Mueller. What is revealed in those links is that the Trump campaign agreed to eliminate and soften the impossition of multiple Russian and Ukrainian sanctions in return for ill gotten dirt, made up fake news stories fed to the American internet about Mrs. Clinton and even attempts to hack our US electoral system in Trump's favor during the last election cycle. Those are serious crimes under our American law. That is what is coming out in the investigations. It is not Clinton nor the Democrats nor the DNC who are inplicated in criminal conspiracies with foreign enemies to thwart the will of the American People...

You must get outside that bubble or you will be unaware thus left dumbfounded when more Trump indictments fall.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Expert
5.1.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @5.1.3    9 years ago
What is revealed in those links is that the Trump campaign agreed to eliminate and soften the impossition of multiple Russian and Ukrainian sanctions in return for ill gotten dirt, made up fake news stories fed to the American internet about Mrs. Clinton

Where? IF, again, this is the case and it is the truth, there should be no delay in charges and incarceration of the players............there isn't. Mueller indicted a few already so it's not a matter of "we will release everything all at once (even though he did it to skirt a statute of limitations running out) and if SERIOUS as you say, they need to be off the streets and in orange jumpsuits RFN not when he deems a dramatic entrance necessary

and even attempts to hack our US electoral system in Trump's favor during the last election cycle.

Gonna need a link to that one...........From what I recall, they were able to get into some voter registration databases in a few states.......something anyone can do.......

Those are serious crimes under our American law. That is what is coming out in the investigations.

Are you part of the team? Do you know someone on the inside? Sorry. What is coming out in the investigations as far as I know is yet to be seen and what I have seen is a lot of speculation. And I don't think I am in the bubble............I think some folks are counting on the wishing well.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
5.1.6  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.5    9 years ago
if SERIOUS as you say, they need to be off the streets and in orange jumpsuits RFN not when he deems a dramatic entrance necessary

Which leads to the question: Where is the Trump DOJ? 

You know, it's funny that the 'right' claimed that Obama was to blame for every freaking move that Lynch and Holder made. 

Yet Trump just decried the FACT that he 'isn't supposed' to get involved with DOJ and then he tweets that the DOJ should investigate Clinton. In REALITY, nothing is stopping AG Sessions from doing just that. But instead, the Trump's DOJ is writing hilarious amicus briefs or begging to argue before the SCOTUS to reverse an already decided case. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Expert
5.1.7  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dulay @5.1.6    9 years ago

If he did direct Sessions to investigate something else all liberals and democrats would be crying "He's trying to deflect from the Russia investigation" so what would be the point? There will be plenty of time after this farcical collusion thing is over. Patience..........

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Expert
5.1.9  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  LMM @5.1.8    9 years ago

So, you type this:

So Trump is too afraid of the big bad liberals to order an otherwise righteous investigation? That's hilarious.

And follow it up with this:

You know that the president can't do that anyway, right?

So, is he scared or is it a moot point for him to "order" it? Have a pretzel.............

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
5.1.10  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.7    9 years ago
If he did direct Sessions to investigate something else all liberals and democrats would be crying "He's trying to deflect from the Russia investigation" so what would be the point? There will be plenty of time after this farcical collusion thing is over. Patience..........

Who said anything about Trump directing Session to do anything. 

One would have thought that all of the investigations into Clinton BEFORE the election and all of unfounded allegations that continued to be thrown around DURING the campaign, Session would have jumped on that shit first thing out of the blocks. Perhaps Sessions was too freaking busy looking over his shoulder and worrying about his own butt to do his job. He and his Asst. came up with the excuse to fire Comey, yet they both FAILED to explain to Trump what they were talking about.

Trump said he is 'frustrated' that the DOJ and the FBI aren't investigating Clinton. It seems that Trump didn't actually READ the memo about the FBI talking about investigations. In short, Donny wouldn't and SHOULDN'T KNOW what the FBI and DOJ are investigating. It ain't in his billiwhack. 

 
 
 
1ofmany
Sophomore Silent
6  1ofmany    9 years ago

It looks to me like the Trump-Russian collusion allegation is falling apart as more information surfaces about the Hillary-DNC-Ukraine connection. Veselnitskaya is a well-known Russian lobbiest who was lobbying against the Magnitsky Act. She is also a kremlin hack who had apparently compiled information that a company run by a former US citizen was evading taxes in both Russia and the US. She believed this company may have also made donations to the DNC.

Trump Jr. apparently got wind of the DNC donation issue and tried to get more information in a meeting with her. Being a lobbiest, she probably thought this was a good opportunity to bring up the Magnitsky Act and doesn’t seem to have known about Trump Jr’s DNC donation focus. According to her, Trump Jr only asked her whether she had any “proof” that the DNC donations were coming from inappropriate sources. She didn’t and then brought up the Magnitsky Act. Trump Jr’s eyes probably glazed over and the meeting quickly ended. The MSM interest in this meeting seems like a lot to do about nothing.

I don’t have any doubt that the Russians have tremendous influence in Washington and that they would play both sides (democrats and republicans) but the foreign government with an interest in damaging Trump is Ukraine, not Russia. It’s Ukraine that wanted Hillary to win in order to better ensure that Russian sanctions stay in place. So the real issue here seems to be DNC operatives seeking “unsubstantiated” dirt on Trump to tip the election (not the other way around).

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
7  The Magic 8 Ball    9 years ago

Fusion GPS Official Met With Russian Operative Before And After Trump Jr. Sit-Down

it was a democrats trap that failed....

and now we know hillary and the dnc paid russians to unfluence our elections with the same lawfirm.

ya just can not make that stuff up... LOL

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8  JohnRussell    9 years ago

Articles and themes like this propose an all encompassing conspiracy theory. The Democrats were the ones behind the Russian meddling in the last election. Every damaging fact that exposes Trump complicity is actually indicative of the depths of the Democratic conspiracy. stunned

The Steele dossier has not been debunked, and presumably it is being used as a road map by Mueller as he investigates the Trump campaign. 

Carter Page's testimony is filled with bombshells — and supports key portions of the Steele dossier

  • The House Intelligence Committee released a transcript of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page's testimony before the panel last week.
  • Some of the testimony supports details contained in what's become known as the Steele dossier.
  • Page revealed that he had met with Russian government officials and a top official at a state-owned oil giant during a 2016 trip to Moscow.

Steele accumulated a lot of information. Some of it may not have borne out, but some of it has, and it is useful for Mueller to use. 

The Russians aided Trump in the election, not Clinton. They leaked e-mails that damaged Clinton, and created a vast array of social media content that served as anti-Clinton propaganda, and pro Trump propaganda during the election campaign. 

Or maybe Russia helped Trump win the election just to throw those who might find out that they were really working for Clinton off track. stunned stunned stunned

 
 

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