Nearly Half Of White Southerners Feel Like They Are "Under Attack"
So a lot white Southerners believe that nobody loves them . As usual.
Nearly half of white American poll respondents living in the South feel like they’re under attack, a new Winthrop University poll found.
Forty-six percent of white Southerners polled said they agree or strongly agree that white people are under attack in the U.S. More than three-fourths of black respondents said they believe racial minorities are under attack.
And 30 percent of all respondents in the poll agreed when asked if America needs to protect and preserve its white European heritage. More than half of respondents disagreed with the statement.
Sure, their chosen president is in the White House. Conservatives have every branch of government. They have their own news media and it's very powerful. Their numbers are smaller than in the past but white people are still a majority of the country and their "European heritage" is culturally dominant. But it's not enough. It's never been enough. If everyone doesn't agree with them in word and deed, they are being "attacked."
One more time, honest Abe said it all:
The question recurs, what will satisfy them? ... This, and this only: cease to call slavery wrong, and join them in calling it right. And this must be done thoroughly - done in acts as well as in words. Silence will not be tolerated - we must place ourselves avowedly with them
This sense of grievance is in the DNA of Southern white conservative culture. They fought a bloody war over it. But today only 46% take that attitude. Maybe by 2117, it'll be under 20.
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I have no idea why people from the south think they are "special" , or why this delusion has been permitted to fester for a hundred and fifty years.
I would like them to explain ''under attack'' from what?
This isn't the 1850's or 1950's...
Science, logic, progress, all the things that makes them feel stupid for dropping out of high school and ridiculing higher education as "elitist".
John, let me explain it to you so that even you might understand.
For the last couple of decades, and especially the last decade, the elite and faux northeasterers and west coasters have constantly demeaned, made fun of, stereotyped, insulted, and on and on, pretty much everything southern. This past election really brought out the hate because it is well known that southerners and mid westerners are the ones that, thankfully, put President Trump in office. The outright rage of the left is so sad to say it is really funny.
I invite you to take a look at your posts recently and those you and many, many others made during the campaign concerning southerners, then look in the mirror and say...I am part of the reason why we have a President Trump.
90 percent of this country does not want and absolutely will not be run by a very small 10 percent or less in this country, especially a minority that thinks that the rest of the country is beneath them.
Because of you and those like you, thank you for President Trump..
Nobody is beneath me. I am the farthest thing from a northeastern "elitist" you will find.
There are various geographical regions of the country, northeast, mid-Atlantic, midwest, south, deep south, southwest, west, northwest, plains, upper midwest , mountains.
The southerners are the only ones who always claim they are special. They want their own regional flag for christs sake. I'm sure there is a Great Lakes flag too, but people dont fly it in their front yards.
The south aint nothin special.
What regional flag is this you speak of? I am from very conservative northern Florida, home of 2 naval bases and less than an hour from a third in Georgia. Our flag is the American flag. To you that's regional?
Skirting the CoC [ph]
What's your opinion of this flag:
Specifically, how American do you think it is?
You never heard of the southern flag?
What about it? Means nothing to me. Not only do you make racist comments about blacks, you automatically stereotype everY southern as a card carrying confederate flag waver.
Your hatred of anyone not like you is truly blinding to you, isn't it?
Read my post above. It was meant more for you than the non believer.
Your imagination has completely run away with you.
My imagination???? A true liberal. Try and make others look like you really are. You are the one claiming all blacks speak the same and that all southerners fly the confederate flag.
Go away..You are boring.
No one said "all" Southerners, did they. But you had to say "all" because, living in the South, you know that it's nearly everywhere you look, except in certain neighborhoods where it's seen as the true representation of slavery, murder rape and degradation.
But it's all around you where you live and you know that the people who fly that flag are at least as proud of that symbol of hate, degradation, murder, rape and slavery as they are for the actual American flag.
I know it's prevalent? How about you make a nice little trip out of your liberal northeast bubble, come down here and try and count the confederate flags on one hand. You won't be able to count up that high with the amount of flags you see. Your stereotype is hateful, but not expected.
Really? You sure you want to stick to that?
All I asked is why southerners think they are special?
They claim to fly the flag out of regional pride. No other region flys a 'regional' flag like that, do they?
Sure do. When I actually LIVE in the south, in a conservative military city, I can make that claim.
Did you know that Richmond, Va is 80 percent democrat, and there is a 40 foot long confederate flag flying off of 1-95. Who are the racists?
We see a tiny number of State of Jefferson flags out here:
But it doesn't quite have the same traditions and baggage as the confederate one although a fair number of the adherents of the idea are truly crackpots who think it could really happen. Most people just see it as a symbolic place.
Why do you insist all southerners fly the confederate flag. So what if a few do. Very small percentage, but, because of that, you stereotype all southerners as confederate flag wavers.
Let's play your game. It is stereotypical that all northerners are rude, obnoxious, mouthy. Does that mean all northerners are? Some are, yes. According to your logic, it is OK to say all of them are.
Jefferson is not a geographical region of the country. I am pretty sure people like to fly the Texas flag down there. Not a geographical region either. What is the flag of "the west" or the "mid west" , or the north east"? I've never heard of one, although they may exist. They just aren't a "thing".
So, you'd have to be at least somewhat familiar Jacksonville, your capital, right? You must not get out much:
Here's the page that came up when I did a search for "confederate flag rallies in FL:
This link is a story from NC 6 months later than the above and has a nice video for your viewing pleasure:
What I never understand about people like you is why you stick to a story you know is false and know that it will be proven to be false.
Oh, no, John. There're no confederate flags there. Your eyes are lyin' again.
Geography is not your best forte, is it? Jacksonville is not the capital of Florida, Tallahassee is. Just shows how small your liberal bubble is and your public education failed you. As far as the stories, like I said, there is a small percentage of these people. Nobody here cares about them, just as nobody cares about antifa that you guys worship
Obviously subtle commentary is not your forte either...Jacksonville is the stomping grounds capitol of the Klan in Florida. And I DO live here in Florida.
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No way you live in Florida. Even a liberal in Florida knows Tallahassee is the capital.
This is your comment. The only thing you meant was you think Jacksonville is the capital of Florida. Nothing else, not surprisingly, makes sense.
Skirting the CoC [ph] Or do you just want to hurl insults in your not so clever way? Your comments and history show just that or now do you deny you pigeon hole liberals?
Oh, look, there is the rest of the choir. What is it you are saying? It makes no sense. Are you and athiest in the same bar late afternoon on a Monday?
Hey, I'm from Minnesota, you know, "Minnesota Nice"
Yes, Captain. You are a very nice person. I guess I should clarify I specifically meant the northeast blue dot. To me, Minnesooooota
is the mid west...a friendly.
While where I live it's almost universally called the Mythical State of Jefferson, i.e., more a state of mind, there have been attempts to create an actual geographic region which, despite it's appearance is actually taken seriously be a few people (see our own C4P in Redding*).
but it's an virtual geographical area. Despite the map, it would be a surprise in to most of the people in those pink counties that someone put them in the SoJ. Wishful thinking in the extreme, there. Those counties would be in it almost entirely in the minds of the nutcases I mentioned. Even the red counties of the original are ambivalent about it. I'm not aware of any of the OR counties ever putting the idea to a vote but two of the three of those red ones in CA have had a ballot measure vote on the subject of secession (cue laugh track here) which went down in flames: 59-41 in Del Norte and 56-44 in Siskiyou. The third, and vastly less populated is Modoc where they've only had a meaningless (well, they're all meaningless, but even a more meaningless) vote of the County Commission where it passed unanimously (4-0) but I've heard of no plans to put it on the ballot there. The only other county to have held a vote on the issue is two down from Siskiyou (the middle red one), Tehama and it did win there.
*interesting note about C4P; despite all his fervor for the SoJ he let it be known that he doesn't even live in any of these counties but in the Bay Area. But he said that "someday" he "might" move up here.
"No way you live in Florida"
Well, I should be on the run then...all these years of collecting retirement from a state I don't live in...
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Ahhhh...now it's clear. A government worker. Not surprised one bit.
There's no sense for all this shit.
We could care less if you like the South, hate the South or whatever.
Just get on with your life and leave us the hell alone.
BTW......tell all of your friends who retire in the South that they are still welcome in spite of people like you.
They come in troves.
I drive 35 miles to work in Central Florida, and I see ONE Confederate flag on my commute, it is not something you see much of, and that's sayin something, considering it's Sumter County, probably the most redneck place in America.
I love rednecks. I am a coon ass redneck! Don't care how much education nor money....a redneck is a redneck and a coon ass is a coon ass. I am both!
Can't believe you said that.
The land of lakes. Yes, Minnesota is lovely.
Retired Law Enforcement genius.
Technically, that is the flag of the Army of Northern Virginia. If you want to see some confederate flags, see below:
Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America
Actually it's the ''Upper Midwest'' and summer is a Tuesday afternoon in August.
Thank you, Bugsy. I was born in LA, lived in GA and, now, reside in the Great State of Alabama. I have travelled most of the world, except, the ME and lived in England and Mexico.
There is no place like home which is pretty special to me. Am I special? No.
I don't know why we are looked on in the South as illiterates, incestuous, backwards, etc. Maybe, some are. But, I don't think that applies to all of the South. We have traditions which some would call antiquated. We have Southern foods, expressions and love to fish, crab, shrimp and enjoy sitting on a pier while cooking up all of this good stuff for family and friends.
Before Mother died, I would travel to N.O. to spend, maybe, one or two weeks whatever and however she needed me. I would pass this housing project and would see these men sitting out with a small bar be cue grill just having the best time. I wanted to stop and ask them if I could join. I didn't. That's one of the things we do....just get together and everyone throw something on the grill.
Also, I would go into Mobile and take care of my infant grandson (my avatar). My son and family lived in a mixed neighborhood. They were one of three white families. Their home was really neat. Next door was this wonderful black family who collected metal and sold it. They would, also, get together on their front porch and listen to "Blues". Caleb and I would sit outside and join them. We enjoyed it so much after they let us into their special time together.
Yes, I love the South and love the people. Most people don't understand us. Most people don't want to understand us. Even being educated and moneyed, I could go into any country town and feel welcomed. I could drive a pick up truck or a Rolls and they accept us. Just put another cup of water in the red beans and you are invited to dinner. It's all about attitude, friendliness and acceptance.
Thank you, again, Bugsy.
P.S. That was an emotional trip.
Most of the geographical regions of the country have their own history, food, traditions, etc.
So what??
Amen to that magnolia. Being southern means being proud of traditions. According to the two stereotypical lefties here now, one that thinks all blacks speak the same, we are nothing more than backwoods hillbillies. What they don't realize that there are far more of us backwood hillbillies than smug, rude northerners that join the military so that they can continue to insult and demean us.
Being a southerner is a privilege, something they will never understand. I have found that the north is cookie cutter with no originality.
So, why degrade the South for ours?
Each region has their own traditions and I have enjoyed travelling around our Country enjoying them. My favorite place is NYC. Love Lakeshore Drive in Chicago. Love the Amish area. And, the SW is awesome.
Thank you for proving my point
("I have no idea why people from the south think they are "special" , or why this delusion has been permitted to fester for a hundred and fifty years")
I thought you would sooner or later.
No one degraded the South on this thread.
Ok. Then, we are special!
Where did I say we are special? I said living in the south is a privilege. Do you not think where you live is a privilege, especially if you are proud of it. Maybe you are not proud of where you live. Not my problem.
You are boring me.
No doubt.
Good to see you admit you are boring. It only took you thousands of idiotic seeds and comments for you to figure it out.
HA! You've never been to Grand Marais, Minnesota, have you?
Really? So trotting out pictures of a few people flying the confederate flag, and insinuating all southerners are like them is not demeaning? Truly delusional.
I'm not saying you're one of them (although I wouldn't be surprised) but there are a lot of people in the South who think that that heinous flag is one of those proud traditions and putting up statues honoring the men who committed treason against the United States is another one. You can't deny that it true. Or, let's wait and see if you dare......
It is easier for the elites to play into their own stereotypes and hatred than to admit that even in the South people of different races or cultures can get along. I spent time in Mississippi And Louisiana after Hurricane Katrina and I never have dealt so many good kind people. They made sure we where fed every night and would stop us on the street an insist that they buy us lunch. These people, some who lost everything, making sure we were fed something other than the standard Army grub. I saw what you said in your comment and can truly appreciate what you have said.
Just by that you are saying I am one of them.Your hatred of all not like you is blinding.
I truly do appreciate your kind words....I really mean this.
You just put another cup of water in a pot of red beans!
Thank you for all you did after Katrina. It was just awful and the MS Gulf Coast suffered as much as the N.O. area.
Thank you, again.
Magnolia , you are a white southerner, right?
What are you under attack from, as a white southerner ?
That's a very interesting non-answer that still gave us a lot of information--information that I bet you didn't intend to reveal. Of course, high dudgeon like that is always a "tell." The question is still before you if you care to take another and more direct instead of deflective crack at it.
More than probably any other group in the country Southern whites, especially the middle and upper soc/econ strata have developed a way to hide a whole lot of venom behind a smiling, almost courtly exterior.
I am very white. And, I never said I was under attack.
If we can hide all of that it makes us extremely special!
WTF? I'm thinking you are watching too much TV or something, you really need to get out more!
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You've never been to the outer areas round Pittsburgh have you? Hell, even in Pittsburgh you'll find foods, businesses and people there that you won't find anywhere else in the country.
Had it only been Southern Whites I would understand that but we had people of all races treated us well. I never and will never understand the disdain for White Southerners most I'm sure aren't evil racists. And how is pigeonholing/stereotyping Southern Whites any different than people who stereotype other races? It amazes me the hypocrisy I see daily by the "enlightened" elitists. I see hatred and bullshit spit by everyone not just one group sadly sometimes it feels I might be the only person who sees this.
Primanti Brothers. Yummy!
I dont have any hatred for southerners. I just want to know why they think they are under attack (46%) and why they need their own flag when no other geographical region of the country waves its own flag around.
You are da man!
Thank you.
Why do over three fourths of blacks feel minorities are under attack? Probably because there are people with a victim mentality in every group. It seems more and more everyday someone has to play the victim. Is it any more unreasonable for 46 percent of Southern Whites to believe they are victims than over three fourths of blacks? There is obviously reasons people feel this way.
The article is about the south because Winthrop University is in the south. When you have an article that shows that 46% of northern whites think they are under attack then you can talk about that.
Fair point so how is it any more unreasonable that 46 percent of Southern Whites feel they are being targeted while over three fourths of Black people feel they are? Seriously why are you not as critical of the overwhelmingly large amount of black people who feel minorities are targeted than you are of these 46 percent of Southern Whites? That said neither of us know whether or not either groups paranoia is founded but it appears you are more than willing to ridicule one side and give the other side the benefit of the doubt. Honestly being a Midwesterner this oh so important (to you) study is neither here nor there to me. I just like popping in and observing the hypocrisy of a few people here on NT.
I love and miss Primanti's. Also REAL Perogies.
Polls are such a fun way to get the answers you want if you word them correctly and pick the right target group. I have no faith in any polls.
Yes, there is a certain number of people in the south who feel they are under attack, just as there are certain groups of people in California, Oregon, Washington, North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas and on around the map.