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The sexual harassment deluge is progress. But feminists must beware a backlash.

  

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Via:  colour-me-free  •  9 years ago  •  13 comments

The sexual harassment deluge is progress. But feminists must beware a backlash.

For feminists, this is a watershed moment. All around us, once-mighty men are being swept up — and sometimes swept out of their jobs — in sexual harassment and assault allegations.

At first, it was a slow drip — Bill Cosby, Roger Ailes and Bill O’Reilly saw their careers capsized by women who alleged years of bad behavior. Then came   The New York Times   and the   New Yorker’s   reporting on media mogul Harvey Weinstein’s alleged acts of sexual assault and harassment, and the levy was breached.

Now, the flood of women’s voices grows more powerful every day as more allegations against powerful men go public across industries and continents, from the British Parliament ( 36 members   have now been accused of impropriety) to the United States Senate (Alabama Senate candidate   Roy Moore   stands accused of molesting teenage girls). In the U.S. media, NBC’s   Mark Halperin ,   New Republic publisher Hamilton Fish and former literary editor Leon Wieseltier are all under scrutiny; back in Hollywood, so are   Kevin Spacey ,   James Toback   and   Louis C.K . This has, in turn, given rise to wave of rapid responses across industries and continents: There are investigations in Parliament, and Moore is being pushed to step aside. Male media luminaries and Hollywood golden boys have lost their jobs.   (Moore, Toback and Fish deny the allegations; Halperin, Wieseltier, Spacey and Louis C.K. have offered apologies for their behavior.)

So why do I feel more apprehensive than celebratory?

Part of the anxiety is because we saw this same supposed culture-changing force a year ago — when a tape surfaced of GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump   bragging about grabbing women “by the pussy”   because “when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.”

I was sure it was a campaign-ender. But it turns out he was correct: When you’re Donald Trump, a shocking number of people do let you do anything — including win a presidential election after you’ve boasted about your proclivity for sexual assault.

But it was Trump’s win — and the distress it engendered in so many women — that set the stage for this moment of truth-telling and accountability-demanding. The ground is indeed shifting beneath us. But that has feminists like me feeling unstable too.

Finally doing something about sexual harassment is, no doubt, feminist progress. Listen closely, though, and you can hear a backlash brewing. It’s not going to be pretty. And we need to start preparing for it now.

Already, director Woody Allen, himself on the receiving end of molestation claims from his own daughter, has likened the current environment to a “witch hunt.” (Allen has repeatedly denied abusing his child.)

After a small group of women created an anonymous list of “Shitty Media Men” to formalize the mostly-female whisper networks that warn of workplace harassment, Victor Navasky, The Nation’s former editor and publisher emeritus, told   Deadline : “I believe it’s very good to raise peoples’ consciousness about how women have been abused in the marketplace. But from my study of the blacklist and the McCarthy hearings, I think lists are dangerous.” He added, “In times like these, hysteria can take over that ignores individuals.” (Of Fish, who left the Nation Institute following harassment claims, Navasky said, “I have great affection and respect for Ham, and I am very sad.”).

Right-wing conspiracy-monger Mike Cernovitch, himself accused of rape and violence against women, has   threatened   to publish the whole media list. (The rape charge was dropped in 2003   but Cernovich was ordered to do community service .) He seems to be holding off only because his lawyers have cautioned against it — turning what was a radical if enormously flawed feminist effort into a weapon wielded against the left.

Meanwhile in Alamaba, Roy Moore’s supporters —   and voters   — have quickly closed ranks. Moore himself has threatened to   sue the Washington Post ; he also sent out an email fundraising on the allegations, arguing that the they   were “the forces of evil.”

In the background, Facebook and Twitter have been full of liberal women’s stories of harassment and assault, hashtagged #MeToo. No similar movement has flooded conservative women’s social media feeds. Not because sexual harassment is a liberal problem (looking at Roy Moore, Fox News and the White House, it’s clearly not), but because progressive individuals and institutions are now taking it more seriously, either out of genuine dedication to women’s rights or fear of being branded hypocrites.

There exists no similar accountability or trepidation on the right. Right-wing provocateurs like Cernovitch realize that, and are happy to exploit it. This will likely fuel some ugly intra-left tribal alliances: When progressives see men they like or respect accused of harassment, and see those accusations weaponized by someone like Cernovitch, it’ll may get a lot easier to accept the “witch hunt” narrative.

Should a single one of these accusations end up false, or even slightly exaggerated, it won’t be big men who see their positions threatened — it’ll be feminists, and every woman who speaks out against a powerful man.

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Let’s not kid ourselves: Men still dominate positions of power in nearly every U.S. industry. Heads are only rolling because those same men have decided the costs of ignoring sexual harassment and assault claims are simply too high.

That calculus could easily change, and if it does — and I believe it will — the swing will be stunningly swift. Which doesn’t mean women should stop talking. But it does mean we need to demand more than individual firings. We need to ensure that workplaces have clear reporting mechanisms to formalize what is currently too often an ad-hoc process. And we need to push for real female power — for women to take the place of many of them men currently at the top of nearly every industry. That won’t totally prevent abuse, but it certainly would lessen it.

And we need to continue to hold men on the left and the right fully accountable not just for assault, but for enabling and ignoring it — make sure there’s a cost not only to groping your coworker, but to ignoring a coworker groping another.

This is an opportune moment, and women who are tired of carrying the secret of harassment and assault should speak now if they want to be heard.

Our ostensible allies may not always be so ready listen.

Jill Filipovic is a journalist and the author of "The H-Spot: The Feminist Pursuit of Happiness.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/sexual-harassment-deluge-progress-feminists-must-beware-backlash-ncna820896

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Colour Me Free
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1  seeder  Colour Me Free    9 years ago

In the background, Facebook and Twitter have been full of liberal women’s stories of harassment and assault, hashtagged #MeToo. No similar movement has flooded conservative women’s social media feeds. Not because sexual harassment is a liberal problem (looking at Roy Moore, Fox News and the White House, it’s clearly not), but because progressive individuals and institutions are now taking it more seriously, either out of genuine dedication to women’s rights or fear of being branded hypocrites.

There exists no similar accountability or trepidation on the right. Right-wing provocateurs like Cernovitch realize that, and are happy to exploit it. This will likely fuel some ugly intra-left tribal alliances: When progressives see men they like or respect accused of harassment, and see those accusations weaponized by someone like Cernovitch, it’ll may get a lot easier to accept the “witch hunt” narrative.

Should a single one of these accusations end up false, or even slightly exaggerated, it won’t be big men who see their positions threatened — it’ll be feminists, and every woman who speaks out against a powerful man

When did this avalanche of complaints / standing up for ones self (even if it is decades later) become a conservative v liberal thing?

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This is my theory, conservative women nip'd it at the time the harassment / misconduct / assault took place.  For me it was a matter of self respect ... there was NO F'n way he was going to get away with what he did to me....

*remember this is just my theory as to why conservative women are not flooding social media with stories about their victimization and how they choked on it for years. 

I could be wrong - James Comey

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2  seeder  Colour Me Free    9 years ago

The Backlash Is Coming

Rebecca Traister on the inevitable blowback to our sexual harassment moment

It has been a startling experience. Even today, I’ve been sitting at my computer trying to respond to people who’ve sent in more of their tales. And no, most of them I don’t know. Most of them are people who found my email address on the internet, or they’re writing through my author website, and they’re telling really harrowing stories.

Is this about them wanting you to write something? Or is it about them just wanting to share their experience with someone who they hope will be a sympathetic ear?

It is a mix. There are a few who say, “I want you to do this story.” And that’s a whole separate conversation about what is now considered reportable and what isn’t. But I think it’s a weird mix of impulses, because most of the people who are writing me are not writing wanting to go on the record, or exactly precisely wanting to have the person they feel did this to them exposed and brought down. But I do think, first of all, they want to get their stories out.

There’s something about having had a story, which for many people are stories that have been bottled up inside for huge portions of their lifetimes. There’s something about getting it out into the open, telling someone. Maybe they’ve told people in their lives before, but also telling someone as part of this moment of revelation.

Disclaimer:  This is not a source I am vouching for, just found the interview to be an interesting addition to the  sexual harassment movement.

There has been some conversation recently about Bill Clinton and the allegations against him, which include sexual harassment and even rape. This was something that Donald Trump himself brought up in the campaign. And it also seems like we’re at a moment where a lot of feminists and a lot of people who voted for or supported Bill Clinton   are   re-examining   the accusations against him. What, if anything, do you think Hillary Clinton should or shouldn’t have had to answer for about Bill Clinton’s behavior?

We were always going to get back around to evaluating Bill Clinton. And I think it’s a necessary feminist conversation to have. It’s not easy.

Even if you take the rape claim out of it, [this is] something that was never really wrestled with appropriately by the left and by feminists during Bill Clinton’s impeachment and the Starr investigation and the Monica Lewinsky story. It’s because, in fact, the investigation itself was a partisan-motivated attempt to take Bill Clinton out of power, and that’s true. And there were so many on the center left who were anxious to defend Bill Clinton on those grounds. And that included feminists who were also relieved after 12 years of Republican presidential power, and the unification of Republican politics with the religious right, to have a guy who supported reproductive freedoms, who appointed Ruth Bader Ginsburg to the Supreme Court, they were anxious to defend him.

But what really got lost was the analysis of even the relationship with Monica Lewinsky, which both of them have claimed was consensual. And Monica Lewinsky to this day says it’s consensual; however, this was an obvious abuse of power that certainly fell under the rubric of sexual harassment, and we didn’t have that conversation.

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Dulay
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3  Dulay    9 years ago

Please define what you mean by the 'sexual harassment movement'.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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3.1  seeder  Colour Me Free  replied to  Dulay @3    9 years ago

Rebecca Traister on the inevitable blowback to our sexual harassment moment

Those are not my words, I am certain that you can find Rebecca Traister on social media (if you use it) and ask her...

Did not read either article did you?

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.1.1  Dulay  replied to  Colour Me Free @3.1    9 years ago
Those are not my words, I am certain that you can find Rebecca Traister on social media (if you use it) and ask her...

Actually the ARE your words:

Disclaimer:  This is not a source I am vouching for, just found the interview to be an interesting addition to the sexual harassment movement.

MOMENT from Traister, MOVEMENT from you. 

Now, please define what you mean by 'the sexual harassment MOVEMENT'. 

Did not read either article did you?

Obviously, I did or I wouldn't have caught the discrepancy. 

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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3.1.2  seeder  Colour Me Free  replied to  Dulay @3.1.1    9 years ago

The discrepancy is an error on my behalf - I am thinking it is rather evident, as I did not catch it, even after you pointed it out..

My bad!

But when one thinks about it - it is sort of a movement of women standing up for themselves.  There is a mission statement regarding the abuses suffered and that it is NO longer acceptable behavior ... women are not going to take it any longer movement!

Moment actually makes lil sense... and my error could have been caught by reading the headlines :)

Peace Dulay .. I have nothing else for you....

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.1.3  Dulay  replied to  Colour Me Free @3.1.2    9 years ago
I am thinking it is rather evident, as I did not catch it, even after you pointed it out..

Which would infer that is anything but 'evident'. 

I strongly disagree with the posit of the seed but since you didn't write it, I won't ask you to defend it. 

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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4  magnoliaave    9 years ago

Hi.   The reading was good and, yes, there could be a backlash.  I see it coming in subtle ways at first.  For instance, there are many women who are in sales.  They travel, meet with clients and, sometimes, there are lunch and/or dinner meetings.  There are, also, one on one meetings between the sexes in company offices.  If I was a man during these times, I would be hard pressed to have any of these meetings without a third party and/or recorder.

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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4.1  Nowhere Man  replied to  magnoliaave @4    9 years ago
If I was a man during these times, I would be hard pressed to have any of these meetings without a third party and/or recorder.

Oh girl, been to that stage for almost 40 years now......

I don't see any females that are not well known as friends with me and my SO without someone else being present.... (especially a juvenile female)

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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4.2  seeder  Colour Me Free  replied to  magnoliaave @4    9 years ago

Soon everyone may be wearing body cams w/audio (can one be recorded without their knowledge legally?)  I recommend powerful men  begin this practice yesterday...

I cannot say that I agree with the contents of either article, but I found the reading interesting.  One thing I do agree completely with is the hit that those coming forward with legitimate complaints (even decades old) will take if any one of these stories is proven to be false or exaggerated.. I definitely do not agree with the liberal v conservative women narrative in the first article - other than politicians being accused .. there is nothing political about sexual harassment, in my opinon

I like to view all sides.  As we have already discussed I do not understand the keeping of secrets regarding sexual misconduct / assault .. but I am trying to understand why.  

Hope you are having a nice Thursday mag : )

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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4.2.1  magnoliaave  replied to  Colour Me Free @4.2    9 years ago

Yes, I am, thank you.  Cooking a pot of red beans as my two boys are coming over later.

Politics had nothing to do with me reporting my incident.  But, it does appear that those "victims" coming out now are liberal. 

Mother taught my precious sister and I to have self respect.  That no one could violate us unless we allowed it and if they did,,,, do something about it or tell her and Daddy.  Of course, when it happened there was no Daddy and my Mother was up in age. 

Take care.

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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4.2.3  magnoliaave  replied to    9 years ago

You are right on that.

 
 

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