California Man Convicted Of Killing 8-Year-Old Boy For Being Gay
A California man has been convicted of torturing and killing his girlfriend’s 8-year-old son, driven the prosecution argued by his belief that the boy was gay.
Isauro Aguirre was found guilty of first-degree murder Wednesday in the May 2013 death of Gabriel Fernandez. A jury must now decide whether Aguirre, 37, should receive the death penalty or life in prison without the possibility of parole for murdering Gabriel, who was declared brain dead and taken off life support two days after paramedics arrived at his home in Palmdale, California.
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At the time of his death, Gabriel had a cracked skull, three broken ribs and BB pellets embedded in his lung and groin. Authorities said the boy had been starved, fed cat litter and his own vomit, doused with pepper spray, and tied up and forced to sleep in a closet, the Los Angeles Times reports .
Where was the girlfriend; the boy's mother?
Lord have mercy! An eight year old baby treated like this. And, this goes on throughout the world. These abusers need to be put to death!
Where was his mother?
Just read that the mother may be charged also, so she was probably there.
Conservatives have demonized LGBT people who the death of this child is on their hands because of their religious hatred. Words have meant so don't be surprised when someone acts on the hatred that you preach.
The boy was tortured for months.
There is no God.
there was no GOD stoping this, that does not prove there is no GOD.
It does show some humans can be worse than most if not all animals though.
You're right Steve, it only proves that there is no loving god. There may be a sick, sadistic, child-torturing god though.
There also may be a GOD that is hands off and allows everyone to have free will no matter what.
I prefer that. I wouldn't want to be a puppet.
Maybe there's a god that created the universe but it CAN'T do anything about this because it is not all-powerful, just knows how to kickstart universes.
E.A You mean like " Parenthood " one can " Create a Human with a mere sex act " but as for the rest??
Yes-- its not this guy's fault-- let's blame God!
How could you call something god if he knows and doesn't stop something like this unless your god supports this form of behavior? There is the other possibility that there is no god.
Who said GOD CAN'T do anything about it , or anything. To me free will means just that.
The God i believe in has and wants NO control over humans. It does however "speak to all of us, many call it our conscience.
To me free will means just that.
The God i believe in has and wants NO control over humans. It does however "speak to all of us, many call it our conscience.
I would consider you to be a deist.
If god is really hands off, then that makes god useless and unfit for worship or belief. And if go's could stop something like this but doesnt, then that makes god complicit to it, as well as evil.
This is unbelievably awful, no doubt about it but I guess God just can't win with some people. Something bad happens and God didn't stop it. Something good happens and God didn't make it happen.
As mentioned by others here we are given "free will" to do as we please. Do you really think a truly omnipotent and omniscient being, who has offered us free will, means to micromanage everything? Is that how it's suppose to work?
How boring would that be? And how exactly does one do that. With free will one persons good is another persons bad after all, right?
But somehow, nothing would ever go wrong .... we'd all be whistling zippity-do-da-day out our rear ends 365, 24/7 ?????
Yep, got it.
So, where was the child's free will respected, or does God only care about adults? Horrible things happen every day, and it is the result of our free will. How you work that back to God is where you lose me.
I didn't, i was responding to someone else's comment.
One can not blame the bad that happens in this world on God without giving God the credit for the good as well. Not if one is reasonable anyway.
I'm not, what I am saying is that good and bad things are done, all due to our free will, just as if there was no God. So, why God?
Why not? And that is a sincere question. To which, from your standpoint, I'm sure you have a reasonable answer. This debate is endless for sincere, thinking people. It really comes down to one word. Faith. When it comes to believing in something higher than yourself, you either you have it or you don't.
True, and I don't. What I don't see is a reason for it. Things happen, time progresses, everything reacts. An intelligent person doesn't need the promise of Heaven to see the merit in good deeds ( not my quote, although I don't know who gets the credit). There is even a distinct possibility that "reciprocal altruism" is genetic. That said, I have no problem with believers, because to me, it will never be known if, behind everything, there is some sort of conscious power that is somehow both in our reality and beyond our reality. To me it's just a philosophical concept, mainly because I can't imagine that such a creature would care about my morality.
I agree but that does preclude one from having faith. Imo good deeds, if done only for a promise of a good ending defeats the whole concept. It's not sincere and therefore not real.
like giving a donation and expecting something in return. Misses the whole point.
The mother and boyfriend need to die. And, I am against the death penalty. Die!
And, such outrage over a woman getting her butt tweaked and this goes on and on and on. We don't have our priorities in order,
Disgusting!
Completely agree on the DP, though I doubt either will receive it.
Simply terrible and a horrible tragedy that someone's negative viewpoint over another person possibly being homosexual led them to kill that person. unfortunately there are many others who hold this same negative viewpoint against homosexuals and would probably commit the same act given the opportunity.
How could one possibly tell if an eight year old is homosexual? At that age, how can it be determined what they will be when they grow up?
Too many children are abused just because they exist.
I hate those people with every ounce of my being.
How could one possibly tell if an eight year old is homosexual? At that age, how can it be determined what they will be when they grow up?
I know folks who took their six year old son to a psychiatrist to be fixed because they suspected that he might be gay because they thought he acted a bit effininent and liked to play with girls. After consulting the young man for a while the doctor told the parents, "He is a well adjusted intelligent young man who just so happens to be homosexual which is not a problem. Thinking he needed fixing was their problem".
I don't buy into that. So, boys who like to play with girls or dolls are homosexual. Girls who like to play with boys and climb trees are homosexuals. That is BS!
i've heard many stories from people - homosexual and heterosexual - who knew what gender they were attracted to at a very young age, of course these are anecdotes from their personal experiences. from some research i've done - it seems that many medical professionals agree that children around 9-10 start realizing their sexual orientation (without the sexual acts).
i agree with this completely
I don't label children. Each child is different. When they are of age they, then, can label themselves.
understandable, i figure its for each child to realize and figure out on their own, unfortunately this child wasn't given that chance (well that's an assumption, reality is we don't know right now if that child ever knew or not) - the parents suspected the child of being homosexual and committed a horrible act because of that suspicion ... its just simply horrible
And, even while we sit here child abuse is happening.
It totally breaks my heart.