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Nikki Haley Says Women Who Accuse Trump of Misconduct ‘Should Be Heard’

  

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Via:  bob-nelson  •  9 years ago  •  40 comments

Nikki Haley Says Women Who Accuse Trump of Misconduct ‘Should Be Heard’

Nikki R. Haley, the American ambassador to the United Nations, said on Sunday that women who have accused President Trump of sexual misconduct “should be heard,” a surprising break from the administration’s longstanding assertion that the allegations are false and that voters rightly dismissed them when they elected Mr. Trump.

Nikki R. Haley, the United States ambassador to the United Nations, last week. “I think any woman
who has felt violated or felt mistreated in any way, they have every right to speak up,”
Ms. Haley said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

Brendan Mcdermid/Reuters

Ms. Haley, a former governor and one of the highest-ranking women in Mr. Trump’s administration, refocused attention on the allegations against the president by insisting that his accusers should be treated no differently than the scores of women who have come forward in recent weeks with stories of sexual harassment and misconduct against other men.

“They should be heard, and they should be dealt with,” Ms. Haley said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” “And I think we heard from them prior to the election. And I think any woman who has felt violated or felt mistreated in any way, they have every right to speak up.”

Her remarks are the latest indication that the president’s behavior toward women — more than a dozen have accused him of unwanted touching, forcible kissing or groping — may not escape renewed scrutiny at a time when an array of powerful men have had their careers derailed because of their improper treatment of women, some of which took place decades ago.

The #MeToo movement has engulfed prominent members of both political parties. Democrats have appeared determined to grab the moral and political high ground, largely forcing their accused party members to resign.

Republicans have been more divided: Even as some accused members have stepped down, the party has largely stood by Mr. Trump. And it remains bitterly split over how to respond to the case of Roy S. Moore, the Republican Senate candidate in Alabama who has been accused of molesting an underage girl and attempting to date other teenagers when he was in his 30s.

Some of the women who first accused Mr. Trump during the campaign last year have expressed a renewed desire to press their case. Three of them will be interviewed by Megyn Kelly on NBC’s “Today” show on Monday.

So far, though, the upheaval in societal norms about sexual conduct in the workplace has swirled around the president but left him largely unscathed.

Undaunted, the president has used Twitter to mock other men who have been accused, including Senator Al Franken, Democrat of Minnesota, who announced his plans to resign after several harassment allegations. Mr. Trump has defended and endorsed Mr. Moore, calling the claims against him “troubling” but insisting that he is needed in the Senate to advance the Republican agenda.

Through it all, the White House has repeatedly sought to deflect and discredit any attempt to revisit the “Access Hollywood” tape, in which Mr. Trump crudely bragged about kissing women and grabbing their private parts, or to examine again the allegations from the women who came forward weeks before the 2016 election to accuse Mr. Trump of crude sexual behavior.

In recent months, Mr. Trump has privately been casting doubt that the “Access Hollywood” tape is authentic, despite publicly acknowledging shortly after its release in October 2016 that “I said it, I was wrong, and I apologize.”

And he has steadfastly denied all of the women’s accusations, calling them “made-up stuff” and “totally fake news.” Asked about the sexual misconduct accusations against the president and whether the women were lying, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary, said that they were and that “the president addressed the comments back during the campaign.”

Still, Mr. Trump may not have the luxury of waving aside the allegations against him forever as the maelstrom of sexual misconduct complaints that has toppled the careers of politicians, media figures and business executives grows.

In the new and less forgiving environment, Juliet Huddy, a former Fox News anchor, came forward last week to accuse Mr. Trump of having kissed her on the lips when they were riding in an elevator in 2011. Ms. Huddy said she did not feel offended or threatened, but said she had matured and now would have rejected his affections.

“He went to say goodbye and he, rather than kiss me on the cheek, he leaned in on the lips,” Ms. Huddy said last week on the “Mornin’!!! With Bill Schulz” podcast. Ms. Huddy, who formerly worked as a host on “Fox & Friends,” has also accused Bill O’Reilly, the former Fox News host, of sexually harassing her.

One woman who had previously made allegations against the president, Summer Zervos, a former contestant on Mr. Trump’s show “The Apprentice,” has filed a lawsuit against him, claiming that Mr. Trump and his associates defamed her by dismissing her account, and those of other women, as “lies” and “nonsense.” The lawsuit, if it is allowed to move forward, could provide a legal forum for other women to repeat their allegations.

Among those who could be given a new platform to lodge accusations against the president is Temple Taggart, who claimed that when she was competing in the Miss USA pageant in 1997, Mr. Trump kissed her on the mouth. She expressed dismay recently that her accusations against the president did not have more political effect last year.

“With Trump, it was all brushed under the rug,” Ms. Taggart said.

Jessica Leeds, who last year accused Mr. Trump of grabbing her breasts and trying to put his hand up her skirt, said recently that she would be happy to tell her story under oath as part of Ms. Zervos’s lawsuit.

The president’s lawyers are seeking to have the lawsuit dismissed. But in the meantime, Ms. Haley’s remarks suggest that the political environment in Washington may be evolving.

In her first year, Ms. Haley has proved herself to be a valued and loyal member of the president’s cabinet, serving as a confidante on foreign policy issues, especially during the debate over whether to declare that Iran was no longer in compliance with the 2015 nuclear deal.

Viewed as a rising star in the Republican Party and a potential presidential candidate when she was governor of South Carolina, Ms. Haley was discussed as a possible replacement for Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson when it was thought that Mr. Trump might fire him. And her high-profile service as the nation’s top diplomat at the United Nations could help propel her if she decides to pursue a return to elective office.

But her comments on Sunday suggest she is also willing to depart from the approved White House script. Initially, Ms. Haley talked generally about women who come forward to accuse men of misconduct, saying that “women who accuse anyone should be heard.”

But she went on to specifically refer to the women who came forward in October last year to make allegations against Mr. Trump. Asked whether the election meant the allegations against the president should be a settled issue, Ms. Haley said that was for “the people” to decide.

“I know that he was elected,” she said. “But, you know, women should always feel comfortable coming forward. And we should all be willing to listen to them.”

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by MICHAEL D. SHEAR and EMILY COCHRANE

NYT Politics

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Bob Nelson
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1  seeder  Bob Nelson    9 years ago

But Haley's solidarity with aggressed women doesn't go so far as to actually admonish the Groper in Chief...

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.2  Krishna  replied to  Bob Nelson @1    9 years ago
But Haley's solidarity with aggressed women doesn't go so far as to actually admonish the Groper in Chief...

But I imagine he can't be too happy with this-- hardly the type of thing he expects from his loyal admirers:

Nikki R. Haley, the American ambassador to the United Nations, said on Sunday that women who have accused President Trump of sexual misconduct “should be heard,” a surprising break from the administration’s longstanding assertion . . . 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.3  MrFrost  replied to  Bob Nelson @1    9 years ago
But Haley's solidarity with aggressed women doesn't go so far as to actually admonish the Groper in Chief...

She said as much as she dared. She knows she could be canned at a moment's notice. I mean, 13 people of trumps, "great and fantastic people" have either resigned or been fired. So much for extreme vetting! 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2  Hal A. Lujah    9 years ago

Being heard isn’t necessarily any sort of justice.  You could hear someone being raped in a back alley, but if you don’t take any action you are no more helpful that everyone who didn’t hear it.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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2.1  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2    9 years ago

Haley's remarks were better than nothing... but not a whole lot.

 
 
 
Rmando
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3  Rmando    9 years ago

They were heard.... last year. They weren't credible then and they aren't now. And I still haven't heard liberals wanting to hear the Clinton accusers again.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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3.1  pat wilson  replied to  Rmando @3    9 years ago

Let's get all of it out, ALL the skeletons ! I'm for it, regardless the party.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.3  MrFrost  replied to  Rmando @3    9 years ago
They were heard.... last year. They weren't credible then and they aren't now. And I still haven't heard liberals wanting to hear the Clinton accusers again.

We are all shocked that you brought up the Clinton's......again. Just shocked. <yawn> 

But since you did, do you stand by Trump's statement that all of his 16 accusers are lying and all of Clinton's 12 accusers are telling the truth? 

 
 
 
Rmando
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3.3.1  Rmando  replied to  MrFrost @3.3    9 years ago

Has Trump paid out $850,000 to any of the accusers as president the way Clinton did?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.3.2  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Rmando @3.3.1    9 years ago

I know of no proof that either Clinton did any such thing. (Unsupported accusations from wacko right-wing website and talk radio do not count as proof.)

But for the sake of argument... lets' say one of the Clintons did so.

Would that excuse Trump's groping?

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This kind of argument is very strange.

One takes the most abominable behavior imaginable, assigns it to an adversary (and if there's no proof, just make it up), and then uses that to justify that same abominable behavior by one's own champion!

It's madness.

If a certain behavior is wrong... then it is wrong! That another has done it in the past does not make it right.

 
 
 
Rmando
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3.3.3  Rmando  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.3.2    9 years ago

If paying out money was good enough to get rid of OReilly it's good enough for Bill.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.3.4  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Rmando @3.3.3    9 years ago

Congratulations. You have just joined my ignore list. waving

 
 
 
arkpdx
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3.3.6  arkpdx  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.3.4    9 years ago

Welcome to BN's list Rmando! It us a highly distinguished list of thise causes much grief to its owner since we dare to question his opinions and sgow him to be ill informed and wrong. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.3.7  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  arkpdx @3.3.6    9 years ago

... and getting sgowed is harsh!   crazy

 
 
 
Rmando
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3.3.8  Rmando  replied to  arkpdx @3.3.6    9 years ago

But where will I go for my blatant left wing spin??? Oh yeah. The rest of the media besides Fox. I'm glad liberals can't put Trump on any ignore list.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    9 years ago

Trump is supposedly furious with Haley, she committed the world's greatest sin.  She wasn't protective of D. Trump.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  JohnRussell @4    9 years ago

You're probably right. Tillerson called Trump an idiot (or was it "imbecile"?), and now he's swinging in the wind.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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4.1.1  pat wilson  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1    9 years ago

It was "moron", probably "fucking moron". Tillerson has not denied it.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  pat wilson @4.1.1    9 years ago

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Bob Nelson
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4.1.4  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  pat wilson @4.1.1    9 years ago

Ah, yes... Much better!  thumbs up

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.3  Krishna  replied to  JohnRussell @4    9 years ago
Trump is supposedly furious with Haley, she committed the world's greatest sin.  She wasn't protective of D. Trump.

Exactly.

One of the main things- if not the main thing- that Trump wants in people around him is loyalty. And she committed the cardinal sin (from Trump's POV)-- she was "disloyal":

Nikki R. Haley, the American ambassador to the United Nations, said on Sunday that women who have accused President Trump of sexual misconduct “should be heard,” a surprising break from the administration’s longstanding assertion that the allegations are false.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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4.3.1  bbl-1  replied to  Krishna @4.3    9 years ago

Voted you up.  But.  That is not 'exactly' what she said.

 
 
 
Kavika
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5  Kavika     9 years ago

Poor little Donnie....everybody is picking on him. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.1  Krishna  replied to  Kavika @5    9 years ago
Poor little Donnie....everybody is picking on him.

Well, its certainly no fault of his own...

(/sarcasm)

 
 
 
bbl-1
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6  bbl-1    9 years ago

Haley wants to move up 'the ladder.'  First woman president?  She is a woman of convenience.  Her own convenience.

 
 

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