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Canada: Trudeau's Support for Islamists a Warning to America

  

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Via:  buzz-of-the-orient  •  8 years ago  •  37 comments

Canada: Trudeau's Support for Islamists a Warning to America


Canada: Trudeau's Support for Islamists a Warning to America





Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada has an nine-year long record of supporting the Islamist cause while refusing to engage with reformist Muslims. With respect to ISIS fighters returning to Canada, Trudeau has argued that they will be a " powerful voice for deradicalization " and that those who oppose their return are " Islamophobic. " Furthermore, the Government of Canada is not adding the names of returning ISIS fighters to the UN committee responsible for the listing of international jihadists.

Many Canadians ( and others ) are starting to believe that Prime Minister Trudeau's position on reintegrating and deradicalizing ISIS fighters is unreasonable, if not delusional. Canada's " Centre for Community Engagement and Deradicalization " has no leader and no deradicalization centre. Nor does it appear to have plans for a program which could operate inside or outside of government. It is also not clear that the law of Canada could force a returning ISIS fighter to attend such a program, even if it did exist. In France, a similar government sponsored program was a failure .

Canada also has an unclear position on the arrest of returning ISIS fighters, with few facing any consequences to date. The number of ISIS fighters in Canada is unclear; estimates back in 2015 suggested that about 60 had returned . The Government of Canada has tried to claim that his number has not changed since 2015 , despite the near total collapse of ISIS over the last several months.

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada has an nine-year long record of supporting the Islamist cause while refusing to engage with reformist Muslims. (Photo by Matt Cardy/Getty Images)

Prime Minister Trudeau's earlier comments on politicians needing a position of "responsible neutrality" on the issues of wife beating and female genital mutilation render his current positions on Islamist groups such as ISIS even more troublesome. Perhaps most disturbing were Trudeau's comments to a gathering of Islamist front groups: he told them that he shared their beliefs, their set of values and their shared vision. Adding to this concern is his 2014 interview, as a Member of Parliament, to the Montreal-based newspaper Sada al-Mashrek. This paper is known to be Khomeneist in nature and supports Iran (as well as Hezbollah). In this interview, Trudeau told the paper that he would have a special immigration program that was more open to "Muslims and Arabs."

The degree to which Islamist extremism has spread in Canada can be demonstrated by the number of fighters who have travelled to ISIS. According to the Soufan Center, 180 Canadians went overseas to fight for for "terrorist groups" (ISIS) in Iraq & Syria while only 129 Americans did the same. Given that the US population is about ten times that of Canada, the American number should have been closer to 1800 rather that the 129 reported.

Prime Minister Trudeau's position on Islamists should be of concern to both Canadians and Americans. While the history of Canada and American relations is largely positive, Islamist attacks against America have been attempted from Canada. Among these attempted attacks have been Ahmed Ressam in 1999, Chiheb Esseghaier in 2013 and Abdulrahman El Bahnasawy , convicted of an attempted attack in New York City in 2016.

In addition to his support for Islamists, Prime Minister Trudeau appears to be re-engaging with Iran after the previous Prime Minister (Stephen Harper) closed the Embassy of Iran in Canada and deported all of its diplomats. During the 2015 federal election, Trudeau said he hoped Canada "would be able to reopen its mission" and he was "fairly certain that there are ways to re-engage." Progress to date on this has been uneven, but talks appear to be continuing.

Prime Minister Trudeau's support for the Islamist cause has been consistent since he was first elected as a Member of Parliament in 2008. This position appears to have been reinforced since he became Prime Minister in 2015. In addition to his own position, Canada's Liberal Party also has an entryist problem as it has been targeted by Islamist groups .

Unfortunately for all concerned, the global Islamist ideology and its inherent problems of confrontation, oppression and violence are growing. Canada appears to be doing little to address these issues while accommodating those who form the ideological basis of the problem. Canada will not be able to plead ignorance or inability while facing accusations of complicity from any future American terrorist victims. The price of Canada's submission to the Islamists may indeed be high.

Tom Quiggin is a former military intelligence officer, a former intelligence contractor for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and a court appointed expert on jihadist terrorism in both the Federal and criminal courts of Canada. Much of the material for this article comes from the recently published book, "SUBMISSION: The Danger of Political Islam to Canada – With a Warning to America", written with co-authors Tahir Gora, Saied Shoaaib, Jonathon Cotler, and Rick Gill with a foreword by Raheel Raza.




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Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient    8 years ago

That's a pretty good reason for me never to return to my homeland.  It's also a good reason for America to invade Canada (successfully this time, not like 1812).

Justin's father Pierre Elliott Trudeau should be turning over in his grave by now.

Where is Steven Harper when we really need him?

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Silent
1.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1    8 years ago

I don’t recommend we invade it. Then we would be stuck with all those socialists that love high taxes and government cheese unless we slaughter them all. They are digging their own graves not our problem. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
1.1.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dean Moriarty @1.1    8 years ago

But think of the natural resources you'd get - the fresh water,  the oil, the timber...and if you slaughter everyone, who's going to do the hard work necessary to provide those natural resources to you?  Look, Dean, do what you want, but please just provide amnesty for my daughter, okay?

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Silent
1.1.2  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.1    8 years ago

Sure we welcome your daughter. We can buy the natural resources from the Muslims after they take over just like we do with oil. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
3  Jasper2529    8 years ago

Prime Minister Trudeau's earlier comments on politicians needing a position of "responsible neutrality" on the issues of wife beating and female genital mutilation render his current positions on Islamist groups such as ISIS even more troublesome. Perhaps most disturbing were Trudeau's comments to a gathering of Islamist front groups: he told them that he shared their beliefs, their set of values and their shared vision.

That Trudeau condones wife beating and FGM should scare the crap out of every Canadian. 

Great article, Buzz. Thank you.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4  JBB    8 years ago

The propagation and disciminaton of endless masses of mostly Russian sourced right wing propaganda onto the world wide internet which is plainly and only intended to inflame men's worst impulses of tribalism and to divide the peoples of all democratic nations is not merely an American problem as is demonstrated. Propagandist and the creators of false news and misleading far right wing bullshit such as this are equal opportunity chronic offenders. Canada is doing just fine and Trudeau remains popular. Much more popular than Trump and the American far right wing that laps this kind of shit up. Why demonize our friends and neighbors? Who will be our friends among the nations of men if Canada and Mexico desert us? The USA under Trump and the damn gop has become a pariah and an outliner among civilized nations and it is no wonder considering the amount of divisive inflamatory misleading propaganda being fed to folks on social media. I have said it before tand will say it again, "Those social media platorms whiclh willl not control their content to exclude hostile foreign propaganda should have moderation imposed upon them under penalty of the law"...

 
 
 
Rex Block
Freshman Silent
4.1  Rex Block  replied to  JBB @4    8 years ago

Keep living in total denial of reality. Canada will find out what Europe already knows.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
4.1.1  Jasper2529  replied to  Rex Block @4.1    8 years ago
Keep living in total denial of reality. Canada will find out what Europe already knows.

Europe and the USA were in the land of left-wing Islamist terrorism denial for quite a while because being PC was more important. Unfortunately, many people died and were injured due to PC. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
4.2  Jasper2529  replied to  JBB @4    8 years ago

What the heck are you talking about in that drivel?  About the author:

Tom Quiggin is a Senior Researcher at the Canadian Centre of Intelligence and Security Studies at Carleton University. A court qualified expert on terrorism and a veteran of 20 years in the intelligence community, he is also the author of a recent book on national security intelligence requirements. He also spent 15 year in military service with time deployed in Bosnia and Croatia in 1994, among other foreign assignments.

Tom Quiggin, M.A, C.D., has 30 years of practical experience in security and intelligence matters. He is qualified as a court expert in the reliability of intelligence as evidence and on terrorism (Criminal and Federal Court). His years of practical experience include a variety of intelligence positions for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, the Canadian Armed Forces, the United Nations Protection Force in Yugoslavia, Citizen and Immigration Canada (War Crimes), the International War Crimes Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, the Privy Council Office of Canada and the Bank of Canada. He was also a Senior Fellow at the Centre of Excellence for National Security at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore. He was also a qualified arms control inspector for the Conventional Forces in Europe Treaty and the Vienna Document. He holds a Masters Degree in International Relations. In addition to his sole author book, Seeing the Invisible: National Security Intelligence in an Uncertain Age, Tom has a number of other publications on security and terrorism matters in Canada, Germany, the Netherlands, Singapore, the UK, and the USA.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.1  JBB  replied to  Jasper2529 @4.2    8 years ago

The Gatestone Institure is plainly a anti-Muslim far right wing propagand outfit. This is public knowledgs.

The Gatestone Institute (formerly Stonegate Institute and Hudson New York ) is a right-wing [2] [3] [4] think tank that publishes articles, particularly pertaining to Islam and the Middle East. The organization has attracted attention for publishing false articles

The organization describes itself as a "non-partisan, not-for-profit international policy council and think tank is dedicated to educating the public about what the mainstream media fails to report." [13] [14] The organization believes that traditional news outlets conduct insufficient and, as a result, misleading reporting on critical issues, and thus it distributes its own information about events in the Middle East and Muslim populations in other parts of the world.

The institute was founded in 2008 under the name "Hudson Institute New York" (not to be confused with the Hudson Institute ) by Nina Rosenwald , who serves as its president, [8] In early 2012 it was briefly renamed Stonegate Institute, [11] before becoming Gatestone Institute in March 2012.

Gatestone has been criticized for affiliating itself with Geert Wilders , who says that he "hates Islam" [18] and has been described as "anti-Muslim". [10] [19] In 2012, Gatestone Institute hosted a talk by Wilders. [10] In 2016, Gatestone paid for Wilders’s flights and hotels on trips to the United States. [19] [20] The Guardian noted that Gatestone publishes the writings of Geert Wilders. [18]

Policy analyst J. Dana Stuster of the National Security Network , writing in The Hill , criticized Gatestone as "paranoid" for claiming that immigration to Europe was “civilization jihad” and a “Muslim invasion”. [21]

Gatestone's founder, Nina Rosenwald, has been accused of anti-Muslim bias by the Council on American-Islamic Relations . Muslim writers for the Gatestone Institute have defended the organization and Rosenwald against the claims by CAIR. [22] Zuhdi Jasser , founder and president of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy , said, "It goes without saying, but to those who may not know Nina, and having known her now for many years, it is clear to me that she has the highest respect for Muslims who love their faith, love God, and take seriously our Islamic responsibility to defeat the global jihad and its Islamist inspiration." [22]

Inaccurate reporting 

In 2011 [23] and 2012, [6] Gatestone published articles claiming that Europe had Muslim " no-go zones ", describing them variously as "off-limits to non-Muslims" [6] and "microstates governed by Islamic Sharia law". [23] [24] The claim that there are areas in European cities governed by Sharia is false, [6] [23] although many of the areas deemed as "no-go zones" have high levels of unemployment and crime. [24] Gatestone's claims were picked up by many outlets, including FrontPageMag , [23] and Washington Times . [24] The idea of no-go zones originated from Daniel Pipes , [23] who later retracted his claims. [6]

On November 18, 2016, Gatestone published an article that said the British Press had been ordered to avoid reporting the Muslim identity of terrorists by the European Union . Snopes rated the claim "false". Snopes pointed out that the report only made a recommendation and it was issued by the Council of Europe , not the European Union . [7] Gatestone subsequently corrected the article and apologized for the error, [25] before removing it entirely from its website.

The Gatestone Institute published false articles during the German federal election of 2017 . [26] A Gatestone article, shared thousands of times on social media, including by senior German far-right politicians, claimed that vacant homes were being seized in Germany to provide housing solutions for "hundreds of thousands of migrants from Africa, Asia, and the Middle East." [5] The German fact-checker Correctiv.org found that this was false; a single house was placed in temporary trusteeship, and had nothing to do with refugees whatsoever. [5] Gatestone also cross-posted a Daily Mail article, which "grossly mischaracterized crime data" concerning crime by refugees in Germany. [27

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
4.2.2  Jasper2529  replied to  JBB @4.2.1    8 years ago
The Gatestone Institure is plainly a anti-Muslim far right wing propagand outfit. This is public knowledgs.

You seriously used Wikipedia as a factual source? Even grammar school teachers don't allow their students to use Wikipedia, because the info can be altered. 

Take some time to read the links I gave you about the author . His CV is far more accurate than Wikipedia could ever hope to be. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.2.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  JBB @4.2.1    8 years ago

Wikipedia is not a bad source to start with, JBB. It at least gives one an understanding of what one should be looking for.

And it also shows that just because someone has a bunch of experience with lots of stuff it doesn't mean that that person can't be crazy or just a plain hater and make shit up. Afterall, this whole seed is simply based on a book that someone managed to get published

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
4.2.4  arkpdx  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.2.3    8 years ago
And it also shows that just because someone has a bunch of experience with lots of stuff it doesn't mean that that person can't be crazy or just a plain hater and make shit up. Afterall, this whole seed is simply based on a book that someone managed to get published

skirting the CoC [ph]

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
4.2.5  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JBB @4.2.1    8 years ago

It's not likely that the mainly left-wing PC-bound media would publish an article written by an accredited expert on terrorism unless it was to accuse Israel of terrorism, but NEVER the Islamists.  Although the blind will deny the facts, they make complete fools of themselves when they deny the actual quotations and actions of Trudeau and his Liberal party.

 
 
 
Willjay9
Freshman Silent
4.2.6  Willjay9  replied to  Jasper2529 @4.2.2    8 years ago
You seriously used Wikipedia as a factual source? Even grammar school teachers don't allow their students to use Wikipedia, because the info can be altered. 

Ok.....since you want to go there.....

 The  Gatestone Institute , a New York-based think tank, has become one of the most important hubs in America’s Islamophobia industry, pumping out reams of dangerous anti-Muslim propaganda of the kind lapped up by far-right mass murderer Anders Breivik. The transatlantic dimensions of Gatestone’s influence have so far gone largely unnoticed, but its close links to several British groups, including the Quilliam Foundation, Stand for Peace and the Henry Jackson Society deserve close scrutiny.

Election-watchers expected a flood of fake news and inflammatory social media aiding Alternative for Germany, known by its German initials, AfD, to come from Russia. But one of the major publishers of online content friendly to the far-right party is an American website financed in large part and lead by Jewish philanthropist Nina Rosenwald.

Rosenwald’s site, the Gatestone Institute, publishes a steady flow of inflammatory content about the German election, focused on stoking fears about immigrants and Muslims. In one of the most recent posts, the website warns of the construction of mosques in Germany and claims that Christianity is becoming “ extinct .”

The Gatestone Institute is a New York-based advocacy organization that is tied to neoconservative and other right-wing networks in the United States and Europe. [1]  Chaired by John Bolton , a former Bush administration diplomat and a conservative foreign policy hardliner, Gatestone is a clearinghouse for right-wing commentaries on national security, the Middle East, and Islam, as well as a convener of high-dollar events on security and energy issues. It is an offshoot of the neoconservative Hudson Institute .

And as for the author

His CV is far more accurate than Wikipedia could ever hope to be. 

And?! But yet someone of that background to be associated with a group like this only tells me that either he is a huge Islamaphobe or they found his price!

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
4.2.7  Jasper2529  replied to  Willjay9 @4.2.6    8 years ago

Dude, I focused only on the author's CV and provided two reliable sources about it.  Your reply ...

And?! But yet someone of that background to be associated with a group like this only tells me that either he is a huge Islamaphobe or they found his price!

In other words, you don't have a counter argument. 

Bye.

 
 
 
Willjay9
Freshman Silent
4.2.9  Willjay9  replied to  Jasper2529 @4.2.7    8 years ago

Dude my entire argument is because you decided to discredit the source given regarding Gatestone Institute....(I think the first clue was your piece of comment that I quoted to start my comment off with!) As for the author, once again my opinion is something has to be said regarding the author's motives if a man of such background to be affiliated with a group such as this!

In other words, you don't have a counter argument. 

No, I think my argument came across loud and clear, seeing as though you have yet to dispute the organization he is affiliated with!

 
 
 
Willjay9
Freshman Silent
4.2.10  Willjay9  replied to  XDm9mm @4.2.8    8 years ago
and willie used as rebuttal sources sites that would make Mao Zedung look like a radical right winger.

Soo.....cant rebut the information given so you attack the source......but that's that XDCapgun for you!

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
4.2.12  Jasper2529  replied to  Willjay9 @4.2.9    8 years ago
No, I think my argument came across loud and clear, seeing as though you have yet to dispute the organization he is affiliated with!

Really? I already posted that the following are the organizations with which he's affiliated:

Tom Quiggin is a Senior Researcher at the Canadian Centre of Intelligence and Security Studies at Carleton University. A court qualified expert on terrorism and a veteran of 20 years in the intelligence community, he is also the author of a recent book on national security intelligence requirements. He also spent 15 year in military service with time deployed in Bosnia and Croatia in 1994, among other foreign assignments.

Tom Quiggin, M.A, C.D., has 30 years of practical experience in security and intelligence matters. He is qualified as a court expert in the reliability of intelligence as evidence and on terrorism (Criminal and Federal Court). His years of practical experience include a variety of intelligence positions for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, the Canadian Armed Forces, the United Nations Protection Force in Yugoslavia, Citizen and Immigration Canada (War Crimes), the International War Crimes Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, the Privy Council Office of Canada and the Bank of Canada. He was also a Senior Fellow at the Centre of Excellence for National Security at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore. He was also a qualified arms control inspector for the Conventional Forces in Europe Treaty and the Vienna Document. He holds a Masters Degree in International Relations. In addition to his sole author book, Seeing the Invisible: National Security Intelligence in an Uncertain Age, Tom has a number of other publications on security and terrorism matters in Canada, Germany, the Netherlands, Singapore, the UK, and the USA.

Stop digging, willjay.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
4.2.13  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Willjay9 @4.2.10    8 years ago

I think the same thing could be said about those who disparage a site that the mainstream media ONLY FOR REASONS OF PC refuse to publish what is actually happening in the world.

It's okay, lefties, denial is quite acceptable these days.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
4.2.14  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Jasper2529 @4.2.7    8 years ago

When you cannot find fault with the credentials and credibility of the author, attack the medium instead. What a fucking joke.

 
 
 
Jonathan P
Sophomore Silent
4.3  Jonathan P  replied to  JBB @4    8 years ago
The propagation and disciminaton of endless masses of mostly Russian sourced right wing propaganda onto the world wide internet which is plainly and only intended to inflame men's worst impulses of tribalism and to divide the peoples of all democratic nations is not merely an American problem as is demonstrated. Propagandist and the creators of false news and misleading far right wing bullshit such as this are equal opportunity chronic offenders.

So, all those attacks against civilians all over the world are a Russian/right wing conspiracy? Did they not really happen?

The USA under Trump and the damn gop has become a pariah and an outliner among civilized nations and it is no wonder considering the amount of divisive inflamatory misleading propaganda being fed to folks on social media.

Perhaps you are partially correct. Perhaps there are a number of nations that are frustrated with their inability to pull any of the puppet strings on the US leadership that they used to do with such ease. Perhaps they are upset that they will no longer received billions of American dollars in "aid" that invariably goes to the dictatorship governments that we pass this money to. "KEEP THE MONEY AT HOME" is not just for Israel anymore, is it now?

It's true that not all Muslims are bad. It is true that EVERY LEADER of EVERY MUSLIM MAJORITY NATION is bad. And corrupt. More corrupt than Russia. More corrupt that our President.

 
 

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