╌>

Florida Shooting Survivor's Mother: We Have Received Death Threats

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  jbb  •  8 years ago  •  45 comments

Florida Shooting Survivor's Mother: We Have Received Death Threats

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fla-shooting-survivors-mother-we-have-received-death-threats/ar-BBJsMxS?li=BBnb7Kz


Florida Shooting Survivor's Mother: We Have Received Death Threats

The mother of a student who survived the deadly Florida high school shooting said her family has received death threats in the wake of the tragedy.

Student David Hogg and other survivors of the Florida shooting have made frequent media appearances in recent days to call for action on gun violence. They have since become the subject of conspiracy theories falsely claiming they are actors who were coached ahead of their television appearances.

Hogg's mother, Rebecca Boldrick, told The Washington Post her family has received death threats online since the conspiracy theories surfaced.

"I'm under so much stress," she told the Post.

"I'm angry and exhausted," she continued. "Angry, exhausted and extremely proud."

Hogg has spoken out in recent days against the conspiracy theories against him, saying he is not a "crisis actor" but is someone who had to live through this tragedy.

"It's annoying. I hate it. But it's part of American democracy," Hogg said in a phone interview with the Post. "Am I an actor? No. Am I a witness? Yes."

Earlier this week, a Florida state lawmaker's aide was fired hours after claiming two survivors of the Florida shooting - including Hogg - who had appeared on television were actors.

Benjamin Kelly, an aide to state Rep. Shawn Harrison (R), emailed a Tampa Bay Times reporter after Hogg and Emma Gonz lez called for legislation to stop gun violence in an appearance on CNN.

According to Tampa Bay Times reporter Alex Leary, the staffer said, "Both kids in the picture are not students here but actors that travel to various crisis when they happen."

Florida House Speaker Richard Corcoran (R) later tweeted that he fired Kelly.

Survivors of the shooting have spoken out in multiple interviews against gun violence. Some appeared Wednesday night during a CNN town hall, in which residents of Parkland, Fla., were given the chance to question Florida lawmakers and a National Rifle Association spokeswoman.

Students in schools across the country this week have also staged walkouts and marches to demand action on gun control.



Tags

jrDiscussion - desc
[]
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1  seeder  JBB    8 years ago

At long last, has the alt-right no decency? No honor? No humanity? Within hours of the Parkland Florida school shooting right wing sources were spreading false news stories slandering 17 year old Parkland shooting victim David Hogg who is currently a student at the school. Someone needs answer for the lies being spread.

The teenagers of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., who a week ago lost 17 of their classmates and school staff members in a mass shooting, have emerged as passionate advocates for reform, speaking openly of their anger in the hope of forcing a reckoning on guns.

But in certain right-wing corners of the web — and, increasingly, from more mainstream voices like Rush Limbaugh and a commentator on CNN — the students are being portrayed not as grief-ridden survivors but as pawns and conspiracists intent on exploiting a tragedy to undermine the nation’s laws.

In these baseless accounts, which by Tuesday had spread rapidly on social media, the students are described as “crisis actors,” who travel to the sites of shootings to instigate fury against guns. Or they are called F.B.I. plants, defending the bureau for its failure to catch the shooter. They have been portrayed as puppets being coached and manipulated by the Democratic Party, gun control activists, the so-called antifa movement and the left-wing billionaire George Soros.

The theories are far-fetched. But they are finding a broad and prominent audience online. On Tuesday, the president’s son Donald J. Trump Jr. liked a pair of tweets that accused David Hogg, a 17-year-old who is among the most outspoken of the Parkland students, of criticizing the Trump administration in an effort to protect his father, whom Mr. Hogg has described as a retired F.B.I. agent.

Mr. Hogg, the high school’s student news director, has become a sensation among many liberals for his polished and compelling television interviews, in which he has called on lawmakers to enact tougher restrictions on guns. Just as quickly, Mr. Hogg attracted the disdain of right-wing provocateurs like The Gateway Pundit, a fringe website that gained prominence in 2016 for pushing conspiracies about voter fraud and Hillary Clinton.

Others offered more sweeping condemnations. Alex Jones, the conspiracy theorist behind the site Infowars, suggested that the mass shooting was a “false flag” orchestrated by anti-gun groups. Mr. Limbaugh, on his radio program, said of the student activists on Monday: “Everything they’re doing is right out of the Democrat Party’s various playbooks. It has the same enemies: the N.R.A. and guns.”

By Tuesday, that argument had migrated to CNN. In an on-air appearance, Jack Kingston, a former United States representative from Georgia and a regular CNN commentator, asked, “Do we really think — and I say this sincerely — do we really think 17-year-olds on their own are going to plan a nationwide rally?” (He was quickly rebuked by the anchor Alyson Camerota.)

Conspiracies, wild and raw online, are often pasteurized on their way into the mainstream. A subtler version of the theory appeared Tuesday on the website of Bill O’Reilly, the ousted Fox News host. Mr. O’Reilly stopped short of saying the students had been planted by anti-Trump forces. But, he wrote : “The national press believes it is their job to destroy the Trump administration by any means necessary. So if the media has to use kids to do that, they’ll use kids.”

Some of those who have been spreading the conspiracies are facing consequences.

Benjamin Kelly, an aide to a Florida state representative, Shawn Harrison, emailed a Tampa Bay Times reporter on Tuesday accusing Mr. Hogg and a classmate, Emma Gonzalez, of being actors that travel to the sites of crises.

Mr. Kelly was soon fired .

“I made a mistake whereas I tried to inform a reporter of information relating to his story regarding a school shooting,” Mr. Kelly tweeted. “I meant no disrespect to the students or parents of Parkland.” His boss, Mr. Harrison, said on Twitter that he was “appalled” by Mr. Kelly’s remarks.

But by Tuesday evening, a new conspiracy was dominating Gateway Pundit’s home page. “Soros-Linked Organizers of ‘Women’s March’ Selected Anti-Trump Kids to Be Face of Parkland Tragedy,” read the headline. Within an hour, it had been shared on Facebook more than 150 times.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2  seeder  JBB    8 years ago

Angry indignant alt-righters defended the false news stories created to defame and slander student survivor David Hogg...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @2    8 years ago

Perhaps he shouldn't have allowed himself be duped by the left wing organizers who are playing this tragedy for political gain as hard as they can. Progressives have a long history of organizing and staging demonstrations, marches, sit-ins, lay-downs, shout-downs, and in many cases riots and violence to capture all the misleading sound bites and "breaking news" video clips that they can.

Now they are being caught at it. Not a peep out of them during the shootings of the Obama years. This time, they have made the mistake of trying to cast the blame on Trump and the Republicans and the majority of sane adult citizens and voters are not falling for it. They also know, or should know, that simply banning the manufacture and sale of bump stocks and "assault weapons" will not stop mass killings because there is no way to collect the ones in circulation.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
2.1.1  Dulay  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    8 years ago

Obtuse. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    8 years ago

You are blaming the victim. How ungallant of you. David Hogg only spoke the truth. He certainly did not deserve to have character assassinated by right wing zealots. He is just a highschool student. He is not an actor. This kind of stuff came out, predicably, again within hours of the school shooting. It is like clockwork with the far right conspiracy nuts. I cannot believe you feel he deserved to be slandered and maligned and his good character assassinated based on false made up crapola merely for expressing the same opinions regarding sensible gun control as are held by the majority of the People in these United States of America. His family is receiving death threats for gosh sake based on fake RW news reports...

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
Professor Guide
2.1.4  A. Macarthur  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    8 years ago
Not a peep out of them during the shootings of the Obama years.

Where the fuck have you been?

I won't address your comment further as it is either totally ignorant, or, you think the rest of us are.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
2.1.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    8 years ago
Perhaps he shouldn't have allowed himself be duped by the left wing organizers who are playing this tragedy for political gain as hard as they can.

So first the right screams "Fake!" "Actor!" and when that was shot down by facts, they start screaming "Duped!" "Used!". They can never address the content of this kids argument, they simply retreat to attacking the messenger because they've got nothing else.

 
 
 
Michael_Knight
Freshman Silent
2.2  Michael_Knight  replied to  JBB @2    8 years ago

I dont know who you can say all of this belongs to.. the right, the left.. both are guilty..  not this in particular. I guess I am  saying America over the past 30 some odd years has become a pretty disgusting place with politics.. I mean its always had heads bumping, but its just getting down right disgusting these days. I am sick of both sides.

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
2.2.1  Skrekk  replied to  Michael_Knight @2.2    8 years ago
I dont know who you can say all of this belongs to.. the right, the left.. both are guilty..

Sorry but the blame for this lies entirely with the right wing nuts who spread these bogus stories, including the ones here who were doing it yesterday.

No wonder Russia saw an opportunity given how gullible and unethical these dimwitted righties are.

 
 
 
Michael_Knight
Freshman Silent
2.2.2  Michael_Knight  replied to  Skrekk @2.2.1    8 years ago

Sorry but the blame for this lies entirely with the right wing nuts who spread these bogus stories, including the ones here who were doing it yesterday.

No wonder Russia saw an opportunity given how gullible and unethical these dimwitted righties are.

Bullcrap Shrekk... BOTH sides are guilty for filling their pockets with money and not getting stuff done.

Dont even talk about the right being gullible..  It wasnt the right who had their emails hacked by the russians .. that was the dems.. who are too stupid to have intelligent passwords, or not having their own private server in their bathroom..

The only reason why the left gets away with so much BS is because they are that good and lying and deceiving people. Divide and conquer is all they know. Also the Russians had no influence on anything .. comparing about 47000 dollars or 1 million to hundreds of millions is nothing.

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
2.2.3  Skrekk  replied to  Michael_Knight @2.2.2    8 years ago

Sorry but there's a reason right wingers are so gullible that they get so easily taken in by obviously bogus stories like Pizzagate and the "crisis actor" BS.    It probably explains why they're so superstitious too.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.2.4  seeder  JBB  replied to  Skrekk @2.2.3    8 years ago

No victims were too young for despicable alt-righties to defame and slander as it suited their purposes...

 
 
 
lady in black
Professor Silent
3  lady in black    8 years ago

Assholes!

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Expert
3.1  Kavika   replied to  lady in black @3    8 years ago

That's the best that can be said about them lady in black.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @3.1    8 years ago

She needs an adjective

let me help

fucking assholes

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  lady in black @3    8 years ago

Shameless asshole character assassins is who did this despicable deed. They are, well um, deplorable to their cores...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4  seeder  JBB    8 years ago

It has like clockwork the way alt-right conspiracy gun nutters come up with this same crap immediately after ensuing gun tragedies...

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
Professor Guide
5  A. Macarthur    8 years ago

The ECONOMIC BOYCOTT OF THE NRA HAS BEGUN.

The Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Pro-Torture, Pro-Capital Punishment, Culture-of-Hatred-and-Macho-Delusion is about to erode.

When a child hits another child with a stick the child should be punished …

… and the stick taken from him.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
5.1  Krishna  replied to  A. Macarthur @5    8 years ago
The Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Pro-Torture, Pro-Capital Punishment, Culture-of-Hatred-and-Macho-Delusion is about to erode.

I don't think it will change all that quickly.But I do agree that something is starting to change.

After Sandy Hook for a while it looked like things would start to change, but they didn't.

However, now, for the first time, IMO there is definitely the beginning of a major shift.

Some things are starting to happen that we haven't seen before. For example:

NRA backlash

Companies may be starting to rethink their ties to the National Rifle Association in the wake of last week’s massacre at a Florida high school, with a major bank and car-rental giant announcing Thursday they were dropping partnership programs with the NRA.

First National Bank of Omaha, the nation’s largest privately owned bank, said Thursday it will not renew its contract with the NRA for a branded Visa card.

“Customer feedback has caused us to review our relationship with the NRA,” a bank spokesman said in a statement. “As a result, First National Bank of Omaha will not renew its contract with the National Rifle Association to issue the NRA Visa Card,”

The bank had a relationship with the NRA for more than a decade , and the card touted a $40 cash-back bonus, enough to reimburse a one-year NRA membership.

(Link)

I have to admit this caught me by surprise.....this is significant.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
5.1.1  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @5.1    8 years ago

And they're not the only one:

Later Thursday, privately held Enterprise Holdings Inc. — the parent company of the Enterprise, Alamo and National car rental brands — said it will end its partnership with the NRA, which gave NRA members discounts. In tweets, Enterprise Holdings said that program will end next month.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
5.1.3  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @5.1.1    8 years ago

Later Thursday, privately held Enterprise Holdings Inc. — the parent company of the Enterprise, Alamo and National car rental brands — said it will end its partnership with the NRA, which gave NRA members discounts. In tweets, Enterprise Holdings said that program will end next month.

These are not isolated incidents-- its the beginning of a significant change--- in today's news, more companies are joining them:

These companies are cutting ties with the NRA
Corporate America is taking on the country’s most powerful gun lobby group. In the wake of  the mass shooting  in a Florida high school last week, companies are dropping their partnerships with the National Rifle Association (NRA), which touts 5 million members.
According to a list compiled by  ThinkProgress , an advocacy organization, there are at least 22 corporations, including car-rental companies and financial institutions that have been offering discounts to NRA members. As the  #BoycottNRA  movement picks up steam, some companies have cut ties.

Here is a list of companies: ( We’ll update it as the story develops.) " Here is a list of companies: ( We’ll update it as the story develops.)

(Cont'd HERE)

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
6  Buzz of the Orient    8 years ago

If America's young people (who have not yet been proselytized by their parents to adopt their religion of gun worship) want to create any kind of movement about gun controls, then they should study the youth of the 1960s and the anti-war movement. If Bob Dylan has not become moribund in his old age, perhaps he would write a protest song to serve as an anthem - or add a relevant verse to "Blowing in the Wind" - something like this:

How many children will die in their schools, before the government will care?

How many parents will bury their kids, before they lose all their heirs?

How many guns will need to be sold, before they listen to our prayer?

The answer my, my friend, is blowing in the wind. The answer is blowing in the wind.

(With apologies to Bob Dylan)

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
6.1  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6    8 years ago
If America's young people (who have not yet been proselytized by their parents to adopt their religion of gun worship) want to create any kind of movement about gun controls, then they should study the youth of the 1960s and the anti-war movement.

For some time now there's been a pattern after incidents like this-- a lot of outrage...then most people forget about it. And nothing changes. However as AMac has pointed out.  this time there are indications that things are beginning to change. Some people have always said things were starting to change after every similar incident-- but they really weren't. 

So what's different now? Just as with the anti-war movement of the 60's-- what was different is now the kids are mobilized. It was the "kids"-- those in their 20s & younger-- that made the difference in the anti-war protests in the 60s.. And suddenly we're start to seeing that same type of people leading things now.

It would appear that now, finally, "The Times they are a changin'..."

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
6.2  Dulay  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6    8 years ago

The kids of Parkland have already written one for themselves. 

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
6.2.1  Krishna  replied to  Dulay @6.2    8 years ago
The kids of Parkland have already written one for themselves.

Reminds me of this:

. . . and a little child shall lead them.

(Isaiah 11:6....)

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
6.2.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dulay @6.2    8 years ago

Since I can't open YouTube, is there a link to the lyrics?

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
6.2.3  Dulay  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.2.2    8 years ago

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
6.2.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dulay @6.2.3    8 years ago

Thanks, Dulay, I appreciate your help.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
6.2.5  Dulay  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.2.4    8 years ago

No worries. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
7  bbl-1    8 years ago

Since conservatism has allowed itself to become illegitimate, surrounding itself with fear and suspicion, it sustains itself on the specter of lacking any semblance of memory, honor or soul.

Thusly, the victims of terror become the enemy and the reaction of conservatism is play the victim.

 
 

Who is online


84 visitors