California Republican says that it is OK to refuse to sell a home to gays and lesbians.
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Apparently the discriminating against LGBT people in housing is a popular idea among some Republicans.
A California congressman has lost the endorsement of a 1.3 million-member Realtors group after saying it was acceptable for people to refuse to sell their homes to gay men and lesbians if “they don’t agree with their lifestyle.”
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.) made the controversial comments May 16, during a meeting with a delegation from the National Association of Realtors, the Orange County Register first reported Thursday.
“Every homeowner should be able to make a decision not to sell their home to someone [if] they don’t agree with their lifestyle,” Rohrabacher said, according to Wayne Woodyard, a former president of the Orange County Association of Realtors.
Woodyard said the meeting included proposing a change to the Fair Housing Act to extend anti-discrimination protections to LGBT groups.
told the congressman that we need to add federal protections for the LGBTQ community as the final piece of the Fair Housing Act, and the minute I stopped speaking, he said, ‘I just will not support that,’ ” Woodyard told CNN .
Rohrabacher himself confirmed to the Register that he had made those statements.
“We’ve drawn a line on racism, but I don’t think we should extend that line,” Rohrabacher told the newspaper. “A homeowner should not be required to be in business with someone they think is doing something that is immoral.”
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The congressman’s remarks prompted outrage online, including from prominent LGBT rights groups , and ultimately prompted the Realtors association to drop its support of him.
In a statement, NAR president Elizabeth Mendenhall said the group “carefully considers many criteria before supporting candidates” and that its President’s Circle — an exclusive and influential group within NAR that donates directly to “Realtor-friendly candidates” — would no longer be supporting Rohrabacher.
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It seems that Republicans, even in California, represent the interests of only part of their constituents.
I saw that picture and said to myself "that is the face of a evil person".
gays and lesbians should strive to buy homes as close as possible to this guy's house and throw leather chaps parties in their front yards.
Steve and Excitable Boy!, I read through the thread and your comments strike me as getting to the heart of the sentiments, maybe, Rohrabacher is trying to express: "Chaps and Community Pride."
Some of these communities are rather sleepy hallows with traditional values and closely connected families. They just want to raise their kids, in the manner they were raised up. It is a proper consideration. Also, there are community "watch" issues where neighbors share information about the goings and comings of people into the 'hood'— using online apps even.
Mind you, I do take into consideration all the points made by NT on the issue of race relations. I, myself, have a home on a truly, diverse, street. In fact, it is so diverse that it just got a little less diverse when a lesbian couple (who were appreciated and peaceful) moved away!
Now then to the question I have: Is it wrong for such traditionalists to congregate and seek to protect the 'spirit' of community they have build over many years?
IMO: that would depend on to what degree they are willing to go. We have laws in this country if it comes to the point of breaking laws to "protect the spirit" I'd question "the spirit."
Excellent point. (By the way, I added another line in my comment a moment ago.) Smile.
Based on what I wrote, does what Rohrabacher seem to be trying to insist upon make better sense? Funny, I am a liberal and I do not have any use for Rohrabacher personally, but this, who we live by is a very important concern—especially when it comes to the rearing up of children by their parents.
And how exactly does that relate to a person or a community refusing to sell a house to a mixed-race couple or a same-sex couple? Are you saying that those minorities don't want to live in a "sleepy hallow with traditional values and closely connected families"?
Or are you saying it's acceptable to redline those minorities?
Why don't we change LGBT to Negro, Italian, Hispanic, Jew or Catholic and ask the same question?
Homosexuality is not a lifestyle.
I agree.
People choose to be Christian. People do not choose to be LGBT. You can change your religious views that were instilled (or lack thereof) by your parents, but not your sexuality or gender identity.
This guy is just your garden variety bigot. His views on climate change are cringe-worthy. He said that it can be caused by dinosaur flatulence.
He seems like a rather typical Republican. Don't forget that this kind of bigotry is a core part of the GOP platform.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if he also thinks it should be legal to refuse to sell a house to a mixed-race couple.
I keep telling my T-Rex that one more time of farting in my general direction and I will make him extinct!
What possible difference would that make to the home seller? They're trying to sell a home, make a little profit from the sale, and move on. Why would they, or anyone else care who buys the home? It makes no sense.
I assume that there are some bigots who want to keep certain neighborhoods free of gay people. Maybe they just don't want to have to bargain with LGBT people.
It could be some form of red-lining by banks and realtors.
You're exactly right that it would be red lining. That's what Trump did when he was refusing to rent to blacks.
I don't know about banks but it's a violation of the realtor's ethics code to do what this typical Republican suggested.....and the national organization is serious about enforcing that code.
What possible difference would that make to the home seller?
Because conservatives are full of hate, and they just can’t get by without expressing it to the fullest extent in every way possible. It’s a sad, pathetic existence.
Lol. Point to the hate my friend.
You and your fellow conservatives are free to hate LGBT folks, blacks, mixed-race couples, Catholics, Asians, or any other minority which has historically been redlined........but what you can't do in California or any other state is actually refuse to sell a property based on a protected class.
But the good news for you is that if you live in one of the benighted red states you generally can refuse to sell a property to LGBT folks because no red state has comprehensive non-discrimination laws. That's where Rohrabacher fundamentally gets it wrong because he seems to have forgotten that the state he represents explicitly prohibits the type of redlining he advocates.
What a stupid ass. Seems that he wants to go back to the days when minorities couldn't buy a house in parts of America...
This really pisses me off. My father a WWII Marine with a Purple Heart with three cluster (4 Purple Hearts) was told in 1953 that he couldn't buy a house in Grand Rapids MN because he was Indian.
So fuck this koch sucker and his minions.
Agreed? Obviously, this bigoted racist has never seen prejudice against him in his life, so he has no idea what he is talking about, other then his own racism and bigotry. I hope the polls in the future will see him on the outside looking in and wondering what happened.
But, I think the majority of the Realtors will take care of that before hand.
Excuse my language epistte but ignorant people like this ass really piss me off.
I agree with you. That is why I created this thread. Hopefully even the people of Orange County Ca. vote this bigoted schmuck out.
My parents wanted to buy a house in East Aurora, NY and their realtor told them to forget it, no one would sell a house there to someone with a Polish last name. This was 1960-1961 and back then it was WASP country.
My Parents wanted to buy a house in White Settlement, TX and were told to forget it, as no one would see to Indians. It as not the first time we have been turn down due to our being Native American. This was in 1955-1960. When we moved to San Diego CA at the end of 1960, we had no problem buying a nice house in Chula Vista. My parents lived there for over 30 years before selling that house and buying another one in Santee. And no one ever asked what our nationality or ethnic background was. It never same into play.
unfortunately, there are a few members on NT who would applaud this Republican - especially based upon their fragile, sensitive "religious beliefs"
Agreed!
Rohrabacher must be unusually dumb even for a rather typically bigoted Republican. He seems unaware that he represents a state which absolutely prohibits what he advocates.
But.....but....he stands for what the Republican alts-right and conservatives stand for, so he does nto care what the people of his state stand for. All he need are their votes at election time, and other than that, they can kiss his sainted azz.
Desperate people do desperate things:
U.S. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher Now 70, with three decades of national politics under his belt, he’s facing the toughest fight of his career – a bare-knuckled battle where fresh-faced Democrats and a well-known local Republican alike are denigrating his legacy while grappling to take him down.
And for the first time in 15 terms, Rohrabacher, a perennial shoo-in, might finally have cause to worry about his incumbency.
Political handicappers rate the contest a toss-up. Rohrabacher’s 48th Congressional District swung narrowly to Hillary Clinton in 2016, causing Democrats to target the newly-competitive seat as one of 23 they need to retake control of the House of Representatives.
Meanwhile, several prominent GOP politicians have jumped ship to back the congressman’s Republican challenger, former Orange County GOP Chairman Scott Baugh, questioning Rohrabacher’s efficacy and saying it’s time for a change. And in the ongoing investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, Rohrabacher’s name has surfaced several times for his meetings with people connected to the Kremlin.
The pendulum swings both ways. In 2001 my son and his wife evicted for having a black couple over for dinner. The landlord a Democrat serving on the school board told them he wasn't going have tenants that allowed N_ _ _ _ _ _ _ on his property. I guess the landlord didn't get the memo saying racist Southern Democrats all switched to the Republican party.
Why didn't he sue, if that is what happened?
If that actually happened then it sounds like southern conservatives really haven't changed much in over 150 years.
The sort of irrational homophobia and transphobia which Rohrabacher promotes is part of the reason one of his fellow bible-babbling conservatives shot up a restaurant in Oklahoma City the other day......
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