The Ignoramus Trump Doesn't Know Enough About The U.S. Immigration System To Direct His Party Leaders In Congress About What He Wants Done
Trump went up to "the hill" last evening to visit with and presumably cajole the Republicans in Congress to do his bidding on the immigration issue. What has been reported as coming out of that meeting is a mish mash of Trump blowharding, being self-referential, and displaying zero leadership to his conservative GOP congressional minions. The truth is that Donald Trump is COMPLETELY incapable of providing leadership to his political party in terms of creating legislation - he doesn't know a damn thing about any of the issues.
So what happens? He talks about a defeated political opponent, Mark Sanford, whose loss in a recent Republican state primary has exactly zero to do with the migrant separation crisis. He talks about the tax cuts congress passed six months ago. He even talked about personal lawsuits he is involved in.
He told the Republican legislators he is behind the proposed legislation "1000 percent" , but didn't say which one of the competing plans he supports, and didn't take any questions from the group.
One of the most unspoken observations that we need to see more from the media, from Republicans , and Democrats and independents , is the conclusion that President Trump often doesn't know what the hell he is talking about.
All he knows is that he needs the 35% deplorables as a solid political base in any future election, and then hope that his opposition will be divided enough for him to win with less than a majority of Americans behind him.
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As public revulsion grows over the Trump administration’s policy of separating immigrant children from their parents, Republican policymakers are in desperate need of some presidential leadership. They are, however, stuck with Donald Trump.
The GOP-led Senate is largely united on a proposal that would end the White House’s “zero tolerance” policy; the GOP-led House will vote tomorrow on entirely different immigration legislation, and the Republican president traveled to Capitol Hill last night, ostensibly to help guide his party on the path forward.
At least, that was the idea. The Washington Post reported :
President Trump implored anxious House Republicans to fix the nation’s immigration system but did not offer a clear path forward amid the growing uproar over his administration’s decision to separate migrant families at the border.
Huddling with the GOP at the Capitol on Tuesday evening, Trump stopped short of giving a full-throated endorsement to immigration legislation meant to unite the moderate and conservative wings of the House Republican conference.
The House is poised tomorrow to take up two bills – a conservative plan and even-more-conservative plan – and the president made clear that he’s comfortable with both . Indeed, by all accounts, Trump told GOP lawmakers that he’s “one thousand percent” behind them.
What he did not do, however, was offer any real clarity or specificity. One top Republican lawmaker who has not decided how he’ll vote tomorrow, told Politico , in reference to Trump’s remarks, “It did not move the needle at all. He made comments like ‘I’m behind it 1,000 percent,’ but what is ‘it’?”
The president expressed tacit support last night for the legislation he denounced a few days ago, and Trump expressed a willingness to sign a bill that, just hours earlier, he announced plans to “make changes to.” Offered a chance to clear things up, Trump spent “45 minutes ranting to House Republicans on everything from taxes to his pending lawsuits.”
GOP members came away certain that Trump wants a bill, but uncertain about which bill, and what exactly that bill should include.
Presumably, the road ahead could’ve come into sharper focus during the Q&A portion of the president’s appearance on Capitol Hill, except in this case , Trump “took no questions and engaged in no discussion.”
So much for presidential leadership.
Trump was willing to describe his own family-separation policy as “ nasty ,” but not nasty enough for him to end the practice of forcibly keeping children from their parents. On the contrary, the president clearly expects some kind of ransom in exchange for allowing kids to remain with their families.
But as a practical matter, Trump’s ransom note is effectively blank , because he doesn’t really know enough about the details to direct his own allies on how best to give him what he wants.
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Someday before I die I would like to see Donald Trump undergo public questioning about just what he exactly does or doesn't know about the country that he "runs". I strongly suspect he knows next to nothing about most of the issues of this era.
Do you like pain?
I can barely watch him speak period. That would be torturous.
I agree, I'd even let the babbling idiot stay out of jail if he agrees to wear a muzzle!
How 'bout listing a link for your "article/seed" - especially where you got the "Headline" from.
Little CoC thingy.
The article is my own commentary. Below my commentary is a "related" article, and the link is in the title . That is what the blue color indicates. I thought just about everyone knew that.
That color blue thing, unfortunately, gets copied/pasted in a lot of articles/seeds. Hell, half of Heartland's threads have tons of "blue" stuff that aren't related to the thread.
Just curious.
I remember when Donald Trump was running in the Republican primary, and the thought of him actually winning was just a nervously laughable outcome. He had Don Jr. out there trying to find people to fill positions in his pipe dream administration. Can't remember who it was, but one clear headed Republican who was asked and turned down the offer, said Don Jr. was explaining all the people that were going to be in charge of all these things that the President would traditionally claim to be the leader on. The guy said "so what is Trump going to do?" Trump never had any intention of winning, and he planned for that outcome. Idiots of American put him in an awkward position, and he's handling it as poorly as anyone could have expected.
Trump has one basic appeal - he is the protector and advocate for "the deplorables". Once you get past that there isn't much there other than his own whims about this or that.
Well, he has one other obvious appeal for every died in the wool Republican who has never voted for a Democrat in their lives.
I recently learned that my dad's side of the family fits that narrative. They are huge southern Indiana rednecks and it's been decades since I've seen them, but I wasn't aware of just how politically ignorant they are, since I was very young last time I saw them. Apparently, this uncle of mine once told my dad when he was visiting "you know, that Obama was born over seas." My dad was a little shocked at his ignorance, and said "that is not true, why would you think that?" The response: "it's right there on the internet".
lol.
It is true that the great majority of Trump's appeal grows from inaccuracies repeated on the internet.
You nailed it for the majority (not all) of today's gop.
I've been trying to find fault with Peters statement. Please state what it is.
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We have weapons...our brains
Seriously?
Sure if it was Obama's family you would be having a meltdown over it.
I think Peter Fonda is an asshole for saying it.
There...ya got one liberal to bash another liberal.
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There is a thread here about Peter Fonda (locked at the moment) where I am being attacked for saying Fonda did not mean it literally. I agree that Fonda was wrong to use the boy's name. I guess he thought his analogy would be meaningless if he did not make it personal to the president, but still it was out of line. BUT, he did not mean it literally. People say things like that all the time and mean it as an analogy - "How would you -----(insert Trump in this case) like it if the same thing happened to you or your child?"
Fonda apologized.
Peter Fonda apologizes to Trumps for 'inappropriate …
20 hours ago · Actor Peter Fonda apologized Wednesday afternoon for a threatening tweet in which he said Americans upset with the White House's separation of illegal-immigrant families 'should rip Barron …
I know he apologized but he was still wrong to say it
Now there's two, but will we get any credit for it?
Honestly, I don't think that commenter wanted Obama's daughters ( not at all ugly by the way) to be literally sent to a crack house.
I don't think he had any intention of winning, either, but now that he did I think he's going to do everything in his power to take down this country.
Or maybe...
He really is a genius and is trying to fuck up this country enough that Democrats get the majority in November. He used to be a Democrat, remember?
I'm running with a conspiracy theory here, Kathleen.
I know you weren't.
I'm glad to see you back and posting again
When there is a President in the Oval office that really knows what heck he is doing and cares more about America and the American people than he does himself. A President that knows the value of our long term allies. A President that has real moral core and knows the value of truth and is not afraid of it or to tell it. A President who knows the value of having respect for his wife and family. A President that values and respects our country more than the money he can pocket from it by destroying all its resources.
If and when there is a President like that, no matter when party they are from, then, and only then, I will say, Thank You Mr. President.
You should have gotten a early picture of Billy Gramm when he was young and put the caption "How conservatives see themselves" to round it out.
Trump doesn't know a fucking thing about anything (except his daughter's body).
Congressional Republicans just failed to pass an immigration compromise bill … EVEN THOUGH THEY NEEDED ZERO DEMOCRAT VOTES!