Do You Have Proof?
There have been rumors that this photo is evidence that the Red Hen lost all it's business after asking Sarah Sanders to leave.
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I would like to see proof that this photo represents what it claims.
Red Hen specializes in dinner and is only open from 5 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. Tuesday-Saturday.
What was the date and time of this photo? Period. That is the question.
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Also, if the place is a pig pen like Trump said
The Red Hen Restaurant should focus more on cleaning its filthy canopies, doors and windows (badly needs a paint job) rather than refusing to serve a fine person like Sarah Huckabee Sanders. I always had a rule, if a restaurant is dirty on the outside, it is dirty on the inside!
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Why did Sanders take her friends there for dinner?
From a legal perspective, they might have a libel case against Trump if they suffer any financial losses after that tweet.
Libel: noun - LAW - a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation.
The President of the United States calling an American business "filthy" and "badly needs a paint job"? Both negative opinions with no factual basis and definitely damaging to the restaurants reputation. All they'll have to show are pre-comment receipts and post comments receipts.
Would that go for the Owner too ?
Since she plastered herself in the Media world sounding "Sugary/Innocent" and the "Good Witch of the North" type in this incident that is.
Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee revealed his daughter Sarah Huckabee Sanders was heckled even more than what was originally said by owners of a Virginia restaurant who asked her to leave because she works for the Trump administration.
Huckabee said, while speaking of the incident that took place initially at the Red Hen restaurant in Lexington on Friday: ‘There’s a part of that story that has not been told.’
He went on: ‘Once Sarah and her family left – of course Sarah was asked to please vacate – Sarah and her husband just went home, they’d had enough. But, the rest of her family went across the street to a different restaurant.
‘The owner of the Red Hen – nobody’s told this – then followed them across the street, called people and organized a protest, yelling and screaming at them from outside the other restaurant and creating this scene.’
Several of his daughter’s liberal in-laws were in attendance to the humiliating dinner outing.
He said the said relatives spoke out against the Red Hen owners’ behavior – and said they acted out and inappropriately.
‘One of them walked out and said: “Look, I don’t like Trump. I’m not a supporter. I’m a far – considered liberal – but, you guys are embarrassing me and you’re not helping your cause.”’
Then he states that his daughter and her husband LEFT. So he LIED about his daughter being 'heckled even more' since she WASN'T heckled in the first place and LEFT.
I take it as they left after, as read. Didn't hit the restaurant Sarah's Liberal friends did, who it seems walked back out to tell the "Red Herring" Owner to STFU !
Why would it? Nowhere in anything you posted does it say that the owners made false and damaging comments about Sarah or her boss. Saying "I don't like Trump" is not slander, writing it isn't libel. Saying falsely that "Donald Trump has Sarah take him with a strap on daily" or "Sarah has sex with her father", could be considered slanderous, and to print it seriously could be libelous.
All you claim the owners did was "followed (Sarah's family minus Sarah and her husband) across the street, called people and organized a protest, yelling and screaming at them from outside the other restaurant and creating this scene."
While annoying, it's not illegal in anyway.
She said she comp Sarah and Friends entire meal. That's just a "Little White lie" I guess.
The owner said she was civil.... Another LIE !
She chased Sarah and her husband, including friends, Across the street..... "HARRASEMENT" !
What did Sarah and Friends do again to get thrown out of the "Red Herring" ?
It's a …… Thing of theirs !
Part of "THE RULES" .
A "Low income" tactic.
As read:
So HOW could 'his daughter' have been 'heckled MORE'? They weren't 'heckled' at the Red Hen and they 'just went home'. So 'as read' Sarah was NEVER heckled at all, was she?
Sarah had to walk out of the restaurant....huh !
Did she pull a "Samantha" and just "Poof" ….disappear ?
I am just reading what was posted about what he said. It makes NO sense. There was NEVER a claim that they were 'heckled' OR 'harassed' @ the Red Hen. Mike said that Sarah and her husband 'just went home'. You don't have to be a member of the IC to connect the dots and recognize that Mike's daughter was NEVER heckled or harassed.
Perhaps, as so often happens here of late, the posit of the headline of the article is refuted by it's content.
BTW, there is only ONE 'Dude' and I ain't him. Use my member name.
Point?
The article you posted doesn't pass the smell test. Try harder.
I understand.
"The article you posted doesn't pass the smell test."
Rebuttal Link/article ?
You made the assertion, it's on you to prove. So far all you've posted is Mike talking shit.
BTW, another little glitch in Mike's narrative is that there ISN'T a restaurant across the street from the Red Hen.
Insert rolling on the floor laughing my ass off emoji...
"I"....made no assertion.
"Insert rolling on the floor laughing my ass off emoji..."
Saw Reflection in the mirror as you typed ?
"BTW, another little glitch in Mike's narrative is that there ISN'T a restaurant across the street from the Red Hen."
"Haywoods ?
By posting the article and it's content you sure as hell did.
Or are you of the group here of late that insist that they're not responsible for the content that they post, no matter how fallacious?
Actually, the owner according to Huckabee's tweet was trying to heckle Sarah, but did not know she had gone home. So, it doesn't make what he had said previously about Sarah being heckled a lie, just a misstatement of fact.
That says it all. The lie said to make the owner out to be a demon from Hell for her own ego butthurt. At least Sanders did not suffer the kind of protests that two other Trumpettes did at other restaurants. She should be glad that she was only politely asked to leave instead. But, we all know that the Trumpers gotta lie as payback.
I doubt that the Red Hen will suffer any loss of business due to asking Sanders to leave as has been predicted and lied about. And if any right wingers here have verifiable proof that they did, please post it for us all to see.
aka "alternative fact" aka total BS. He "revealed his daughter Sarah Huckabee Sanders was heckled even more than what was originally said" . He went on: ‘Once Sarah and her family left – of course Sarah was asked to please vacate – Sarah and her husband just went home, they’d had enough. But, the rest of her family went across the street to a different restaurant" where they were supposedly heckled by the owner of the Red Hen and owners friends. You can't have it both ways, either Sarah went home and wasn't "heckled even more", or she stayed and was "heckled even more". Whether the owners knew she had gone home or not makes no difference.
What else does Trump and his supporters do? They can't manipulate their base by telling the truth.
No, because if the rest of the family was being heckled to the point where at least one liberal leaning member of her in-laws pointed out that she was liberal and embarrassed for the restaurant owner's actions after they left and the owner and gang followed the family; then it was the intent of the owner to heckle Sarah Sanders, hence the tweet about Sarah being heckled more is factual, just a misstatement.
Yes it does.
In a straight up adult term, a LIE.
Down the street and around the corner.
If her father had said "Sarah was raped by the Red Hen's owners husband." but it turned out that the owners husband admitted he "intended" to rape Sarah but didn't, he never even touched her, would her dad be lying or not? Any court would see Mike Huckabees words as a straight up lie. It takes some serious mental gymnastics to claim he was merely misstating a fact, Mike was straight up lying.
I guess every eyewitness that gives a wrong description of a suspect in a crime is lying, then, since it has been proven that eyewitnesses are highly unreliable.
Nope !
Just giving you some information to read.
Because he's Mike Huckabee? I know the guy. He was my governor and he fucked up Arkansas so bad he had to move to Florida
Yet Mike isn't an 'eyewitness' is he. So go ahead and post a link to an ACTUAL eyewitness who supports Huck's narrative. I'll wait.
So you ARE one of the group here that insist that they're not responsible for the content that they post, no matter how fallacious.
Good to know...
I ALWAYS take responsibility for what "I" say. I will NEVER take responsibility for what "Others" say.
Do YOU take responsibility for what OTHERS say ?
I sure as hell DO if I post it on this site and represent it as fact.
Do you mean "Seed it" !
If that's the case….since that is what "WE" were originally questioning.....NOT VERY SMART !
By your reasoning then, .... the few bad apples of a group, are truly representative of the whole !
Who knew !
I didn't say he was an eyewitness, just that under your definition of lying, every single eyewitness out there would be lying when they gave an statement where they gave a misstatement about what they saw.
No, I mean what I said. If I post a link to an article, I take responsibility for it's content. If you choose not to do so, fine. Just don't expect to retain any credibility.
Would you like some mustard with that pretzel?
BTFW, that isn't MY definition of lying. Either Mike was telling the truth or he wasn't. His narrative doesn't add up. You know that or you'd be arguing that what he said was true instead of twisting your posit into a pretzel.
If you Choose to do so...Fine !
Your Burden to bear.
And one that I accept willingly. Sadly, some believe that posting in Good Faith is too much of a 'burden' to accept.
You have a heavy BURDEN backing up what others say then. I feel sorry for those that take so much on their shoulders. You need some help ?
I defend what I post on this site. It isn't a 'BURDEN' for me to post only material I'm willing to support in Good Faith.
I feel sorry for those that have no standards for the crap they dump in this forum.
From you? Laughable...
Like I said over and over....what you want, is YOUR burden....not mine...or anyone else's for that matter.
if you don't find it a burden....good for you.
"Me", I ONLY defend what "I" say. Apparently..... a Burden YOU'RE willing to take on too !
And it is 200 miles from DC. Why did she travel that far just for dinner there?
At least the owner asked her politely to leave, it could have turned out to be a group of people screaming and cursing at her like two other or Trumps a$$ kissers were recently. Maybe that is what Sanders was looking for. Why else would she drive all that way just to eat dinner at that particular very small restaurant in Lexington, which is well known to be anti Trump? There is something here that just don't smell right. It brings into question if there was an intended motive for their choice of dining location.
Just my opinion.
I read elsewhere she was visiting a friend in the area.
Well, that might be a reason for the trip. But, it could also be an excuse. Maybe I am overly suspicious, but, there are pieces of the puzzle that just don't seem to fit.
She DID !
How was she supposed to know that she would be kicked out of the restaurant?
So, during her off time, she can't take her family and meet friends anywhere? [deleted] Maybe she should be required to display her 'papers' for any place she wants to visit? Once that happens, you are next.
Wrong. I don't go to restaurants to eat, or to meet people. And you are doing a very nice cover up for your Trumpette.
Your mind only seems to work one way....as it has been Trumpted.
Hear no evil, see no evil, but, speak a whole crap load of sh*t.
Actually, your mind seems to only work one way, as in seeing conspiracies where none exist. That is what you are arguing here, that the entire situation was pre-planned by Sarah Huckabee Sanders to get a restaurant shut down that is out of the way for most people. So, show me exactly how she would know that she would be thrown out of that restaurant, which is a 3 hour drive (without traffic) from Washington, DC?
My opinions are my own. I have as much right to express my own opinions here as you do. If you don't like them, don't read them. I don't owe you anything, and vice versa. And....you would only Pooh Pooh my answer anyway, so why waste my time when you are only looking for a verbal confrontation to further vilify the owner of the restaurant like all the other Trump wingers where.
And speaking of my mind....you don't know Jack about me personally, so YOU have NO right to judge my mind or what I think or how I feel. Now go find someone else who is happy to play your stupid game.
Yes, your opinions are your own; but people can call you out for jumping to conclusions as you did with the conspiracy theory you posted. Or, do you deny writing comment #1.2 now?
Nope. And my opinion theory is no worse than any of those by the right about Sanders and the Red Hem owner conspiracy. And I don't really care what you think. It does not interest me at all. So go find your conspiracy buds and play that one for all its worth.
Trump is the poster child for dirty on the inside, dirty on the outside.
I believe the news said it was her family.
It’s going to be a tough week for the twenty restaurants, bakeries, and coffee houses in the United States with “Red Hen” in their name. Over the weekend, several were bombarded with death threats, nasty online reviews, and even eggs , after White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said on Twitter she was was asked to leave the “Red Hen” restaurant in Lexington, Virginia.
This morning, Donald Trump tweeted a new criticism of the restaurant, without specifying where it was, putting the rest of the US’s Red Hens directly in the line of fire.
Trump has tweeted criticism of plenty of big US companies before, from Boeing to Ford to Lockheed Martin, breaking with presidential tradition and sometimes wiping billions off of their market caps, at least temporarily . But targeting a 26-seat restaurant marks a new use of the US president’s platform.
America’s 29 million small businesses (defined as those with less than 500 employees) are responsible for 48% of the US’s jobs. They employ almost 57 million people, according to government data . They’re also much less likely to be able to afford the crisis communications teams that big companies started hiring when Trump took office—or the in-house security teams to defend against any threats.
The Lexington Red Hen’s Facebook page has been inundated with tens of thousands of critical messages. Meanwhile, the owner of an unaffiliated Red Hen in New Jersey said on Facebook “my telephone has not stopped ringing, angry ill-informed callers threatening my staff, our business, cursing and swearing at us.” Another unaffiliated Red Hen restaurant in Washington D.C., was bombarded with eggs and fake, negative online reviews .
Private citizens and politicians who criticize Trump or his agenda often face abuse from his fans after he tweets about them, which can go beyond just verbal threats. He endorsed Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore, for example, even after multiple women said Moore had sexually assaulted them. After Moore lost, the home of one of his accusers was destroyed by a fire that officials are investigating as arson.
And we liberals are supposed to be the nasty ones?
I have driven that road too many times in past 40 years, and White's Truck Stop is best place between Roanoke and Harrisonburg. Why in the hell did she pick that place?
They make a big deal of their farm-to-table menu. Locally sourced ingredients and so forth. It actually looks pretty good, if a bit pricey.
What do they serve?
Coq au vin, which is a seasonal dish, is the one Sarah ordered.
Here's a link to the menu:
I'm drawn to the peaches and blackberry shortcake.
They work with multiple local farms for produce, dairy and meats.
Because it was league night at the bowling alley and the truck stop was full of cattle haulers and boy scouts?
Someone posted a picture on this seed of a little boy behind a wire fence. Has nothing to do with this seed.
This seed is about a photo that seems to misrepresent a restaurant in Virginia.
I guess there is no proof that the restaurant had no customers after they turned away Sarah Sanders.
The Red Hen is a small restaurant in a Democrat stronghold. I doubt it would ever be empty. However, one way to retaliate against the place is to make fake reservations or show up and walk out.
Easily countered by requiring a credit card and a non refundable deposit. The larger the group, the higher the deposit. We have a couple of restaurants here that do just that.
Here’s the counter to the counter. Show up, waste time, and then leave without buying anything. Oh and, if somebody really wants to be nasty, he can make the bathroom unusable. Which includes unrolling the toilet paper, spreading it around, and then wetting it up. Or stopping up the toilet.
Ah, you 'law and order' guys are all for destruction of property to get your point across I see. When they use their security cameras to plaster your face all over the news I suppose you'd claim that your right to 'freedom of speech' was being violated
And you guys are against discrimination unless you're the ones doing it. I can’t help it if I accidentally dropped the toilet paper and it got wet or something fell in the toilet and backed it up. It doesn’t destroy anything. All she has to do is clean it up over and over until she comes to her senses.
Wait! Aren't y'all the ones that insist that y'all have a Constitutional right to freedom of association? I can't count how many times I've read that here. So suddenly NOW, it's discrimination to practice that right?
Total bullshit.
She can choose to do just what she did and others can choose to do the same thing to her until we literally Ann’s on and on until we prove the meaning of the saying “a house divided against itself cannot stand.”
Her biggest problem is that the plumbers may be Trump supporters and could decline to associate with her long enough to fix her backed up toilet. In that case, she’ll be literally be full of shit. lol.
Didn't conservatives like Sarah fire the first volley by supporting bigoted business which deny service to entire classes of Americans? Seems she doesn't like getting even a small taste of that treatment.......dumb bigots are incredibly fragile, almost as fragile as Trump's ego.
If you’re referring to the baker case, then I don’t think the two are similar because the baker didn’t throw the homosexuals out of his business. But let’s make them similar. Repeal special protections for homosexuals so business owners can express the same revulsion for their behavior as the red hen expresses for Huckabee.
You yourself have said that you believe that people have the right to refuse service to gays (only you say homosexuals). I've heard you say that you think people should be able to associate with who they want to. Well, the restaurant owner doesn't want to associate with Sarah Sanders.
And what you advocate above is vandalism. Don't try to paint a silly picture of "oops! I dropped a roll of toilet paper in the toilet". People ain't that damn dumb and if you do try something like that I hope you go to jail or at least get sued to cover the cost of the plumber
I'm not sure what "behavior" you're referring to but Virginia doesn't protect sexual orientation, not even yours. No red state does. So businesses are free to deny service to gays, straights, bisexuals or even people like you who have admitted to being asexual unless they're procreating at the moment.
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A denial of service is a denial of service. In that regard it makes no difference if it happens in a restaurant where you sit at a table to eat or in a bakery where you place an order and then leave. All that really matters is whether the denial of service was legal, and it's clear that it was perfectly legal to boot Trump's propaganda minister out. In fact she got far more due process than what she wants refugee children to get.
Hmmm. It seems with the latest gutteral comments the truth is unfolding and the target found.
The article is about the photo with the caption indicating that the restaurant was empty because people were "standing with Sarah". Anyone is free to prove the photo makes its case, be it the original poster of that photo, or anyone else.
Ha, ha, ha. Considering that they are booked solid for quite some time, this is ridiculous.
Not to mention right wingers who never read or bothered to learn that there are many different "Red Hen" restaurants and have been viciously going after hundreds of different places, even an establishment in Canada.
Sanders used her WH account to deliberately signal a dog whistle to right wing haters to have at it, regardless that they are foolish and have hurt many restaurants across the country totally unaffiliated with location Sanders wanted them to go after.
And they wonder why there is incivility, lets ask the thousands of right wing attackers who followed Sanders lead.
While we're on the topic of restaurant review:
I've had Trump's wine before. Pedestrian and extremely overpriced.
I read that 15,000 people slammed the restaurant in Yelp reviews. It won’t hurt her business because she can always fill it with members of her nasty little anti-Trump tribe.
The Lexington, VA Red Hen's Yelp reviews were also immediately propped up by hundreds of anonymous 5 star reviews. That's why we should never believe everything we read on the Internet and/or social media.
Hold yourself to the same standards before making demands of others. Mislead what a photo of a child in a cage at a mall was about...didn't you?
The last time I checked this morning, that one is still up.
I havent made any comments about the worth of the picture with the little boy and the "cage". You must have me confused with somebody else whose comments you misrepresent.
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I will say though that I have seen a photo of the little boy outside that cage, so it appears the photo of him "caged" may be inaccurate.
Or better described...a lie!!
Oh, the hypocrisy!
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I haven't read anything about the restaurant losing all its business since Wilkinson's debacle, because it's been closed since then. If/when it reopens, it won't happen until July 5.