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Women's March mocked for pre-written press release opposing Supreme Court nominee 'XX'

  

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Via:  96ws6  •  8 years ago  •  182 comments

Women's March mocked for pre-written press release opposing Supreme Court nominee 'XX'

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The Women’s March opposes XX.

A pre-written — and poorly edited — statement from the Women’s March on President Trump’s Supreme Court nomination became the subject of mockery on Twitter on Monday night, including from Mr. Trump’s former press secretary.

The feminist group blasted out a statement shortly after Mr. Trump nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh, saying him confimation would “further erode protections for almost every marginalized group in America.”

The introduction to the statement read “In response to Donald Trump’s nomination of XX to the Supreme Court of the United States.”


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96WS6
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1  seeder  96WS6    8 years ago

Oh Damn, you weren't supposed to make it that obvious.LOL

 
 
 
TTGA
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1.1  TTGA  replied to  96WS6 @1    8 years ago

Maybe they didn't know how to spell his name.

 
 
 
TTGA
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1.1.1  TTGA  replied to  TTGA @1.1    8 years ago

Worse..... far worse.  Since his name was in all the newspapers, they didn't even know how to COPY it.

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Silent
1.1.2  seeder  96WS6  replied to  TTGA @1.1    8 years ago

laughing dude

 
 
 
tomwcraig
Junior Silent
1.1.3  tomwcraig  replied to  96WS6 @1.1.2    8 years ago

What;s worse than not being able to copy his name, is the fact Trump could have nominated a woman and they would have said the exact same thing about her as they planned for all the men!

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  tomwcraig @1.1.3    8 years ago
What;s worse than not being able to copy his name, is the fact Trump could have nominated a woman and they would have said the exact same thing about her as they planned for all the men!

Why does that seem so strange to you?  All SCOTUS nominees that he considered had the same anti-woman beliefs, and yes even the female nominee (that everyone knew he would not select) was opposed to women's rights. 

Their protests applied to everyone he was considering.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
1.1.5  Ender  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.4    8 years ago

Exactly. He picked from a pool of the same train of thought.

 
 
 
katlin02
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1.1.6  katlin02  replied to  TTGA @1.1.1    8 years ago
Worse..... far worse.  Since his name was in all the newspapers, they didn't even know how to COPY it.

that was funny as hell---a  march held by the poorly educated and ii-informed for sure...poor soros, good marchers are hard to find these days since more people have real jobs now

 
 
 
KDMichigan
Junior Quiet
1.2  KDMichigan  replied to  96WS6 @1    8 years ago

Canned ham.

Like the snowflake response couldn't be predicted. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  KDMichigan @1.2    8 years ago

It's like a broken record that keeps repeating the same notes, over and over and over. At some point, no listens anymore.

 
 
 
Spikegary
Junior Quiet
1.2.3  Spikegary  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.2    8 years ago

Yeah, protesting is what they're good at.  Proofreading?  Not so much.  And the pre-printed signs thing-in such a hurry to protest the pick, it really didn't matter who it was.

 
 
 
Spikegary
Junior Quiet
1.2.5  Spikegary  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.4    8 years ago

Thought you might get a kick out of this one:

Supremes Wrong Poster.jpg

 
 
 
Spikegary
Junior Quiet
1.2.9  Spikegary  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.7    8 years ago

I've got plenty more, but at your level, tis all you get.

 
 
 
sixpick
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1.2.10  sixpick  replied to  Spikegary @1.2.5    8 years ago

This is the one I like. LOL

https://www.ac2news.com/wp-content/uploads/madam-president-newsweek-c-c-457x565.jpg

 
 
 
96WS6
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1.2.11  seeder  96WS6  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.4    8 years ago

The irony of your post is astonishing.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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1.2.12  Jasper2529  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.8    8 years ago
removed for context

Well, the main reason is that comment  1.2.4   is an untruthful Sweeping Generalization about Trump supporters when the article is about the Women's March participants who protested at the Supreme Court.

 
 
 
1ofmany
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1.2.13  1ofmany  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.4    8 years ago
Removed for context

Liberals spend all day every day mocking and insulting people who disagree with them yet that goes unnoticed. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.2.14  Ozzwald  replied to  Jasper2529 @1.2.12    8 years ago
Well, the main reason is that comment 1.2.4  is an untruthful Sweeping Generalization about Trump supporters when the article is about the Women's March participants who protested at the Supreme Court.

How can you complain about "Sweeping Generalizations" when every comment above hers is a "Sweeping Generalization"?

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
1.2.15  Jasper2529  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.14    8 years ago
How can you complain about "Sweeping Generalizations"

Can you please explain exactly how comment #  1.2.12   is a complaint? I made an accurate assessment that compared someone's sweeping generalization comment to the very specific topic of this seed.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.2.16  Trout Giggles  replied to  1ofmany @1.2.13    8 years ago
Liberals spend all day every day mocking and insulting people who disagree with them yet that goes unnoticed.

Snowflake? Coloring books and crayons? Blankies and binkies?

Wasn't liberals who started throwing that out there

 
 
 
1ofmany
Sophomore Silent
1.2.17  1ofmany  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.16    8 years ago
Snowflake? Coloring books and crayons? Blankies and binkies?

Morons? Deplorables? Racists? Misogynists, Nazis, white supremacits? Knuckle draggers? Neanderthals? 

Wasn't liberals who started throwing that out there.

They threw their own so they’re full of shit. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.2.18  Trout Giggles  replied to  1ofmany @1.2.17    8 years ago

You want civility from us but are unwilling to reciprocate.

 
 
 
PJ
Masters Silent
1.2.19  PJ  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.18    8 years ago

Yes, it rings completely disingenuous when they all but fall at the feet of Mr. Trump embracing and celebrating what most human beings would consider unacceptable behavior.

Mr. Trump followers are at fault for the discord that has taken the country hostage.   

 
 
 
PJ
Masters Silent
1.2.22  PJ  replied to  XDm9mm @1.2.21    8 years ago

I'm trying to figure out the point your are trying to make and the relevance it has to my comment.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.2.23  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @1.2.20    8 years ago
So, would you care to explain to me how reminding some of facts is derisive?

You know what....no more derisive than "teabagger"

If some of your buddies continue to fling insults regarding coloring books I will continue to mock with the word teabagger. Afterall, the tea party morons called themselves that before they realized what it actually meant. By then, the damage had been done.

But don't go acting all innocent and pretend that your side doesn't mock and fling insults. "Libtard" seems to be a favorite amongst your buddies.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.2.26  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @1.2.25    8 years ago

I don't think you do, but you continue to think in whatever way it makes you feel better

 
 
 
katlin02
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1.2.27  katlin02  replied to  Spikegary @1.2.5    8 years ago

laughing dude

 
 
 
katlin02
Freshman Silent
1.2.31  katlin02  replied to  sixpick @1.2.10    8 years ago
This is the one I like. LOL

that one was hilarious--kinda like the FBI deciding hillary was inncocent 6 month before they looked at any evidence.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.2.32  Trout Giggles  replied to  MonsterMash @1.2.29    8 years ago

Thanks for making my point

 
 
 
PJ
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1.2.33  PJ  replied to  XDm9mm @1.2.24    8 years ago

I wrote out a lengthy response but the site crashed and I don't feel like retyping it.  But I'll tell ya what.  Turn on the t.v. - OR - read a newspaper and I'm confident you will find examples of Mr. Trump's supporters making excuses for his behavior and actions against everyone  ...........well everyone except Putin.  devil

 
 
 
katlin02
Freshman Silent
1.2.34  katlin02  replied to  XDm9mm @1.2.21    8 years ago

oh and don't forget it wasn't a trump supporters that went to the baseball field with a list of republicans to shoot--

not one democrat would stand up when scalize entered the congressional chamber with canes to walk..

not one democrat would stand up for the families who lost children to the violence of illegals.

and it was a democrat who got on the bullhorn and said make it uncomfortable for them to go anywhere, into a store, a restaurant, a gas station and harass them.

so yah don't expect us to be nice and civil and not push back and make sure we are protecting our  first & second amendment..the left may get what they keep asking for and they won't like, it just like schumer doesn't like the rules they made for themselves when obama was president and now they have to play by them.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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1.2.35  KDMichigan  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.23    8 years ago

Deleted

 
 
 
1ofmany
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1.2.37  1ofmany  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.18    8 years ago
You want civility from us but are unwilling to reciprocate.

I like civility period but at least recognize that one side is no better than the other in this respect. 

 
 
 
1ofmany
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1.2.38  1ofmany  replied to  PJ @1.2.33    8 years ago
Turn on the t.v. - OR - read a newspaper and I'm confident you will find examples of Mr. Trump's supporters making excuses for his behavior and actions against everyone  ...........well everyone except Putin.  

Well it’s not like they’re unbiased media. They’re part of the Trump resistance so they’re supposed to trash his supporters. But trashing his supporters will probably get him re-elected and then democrats can blame Putin or emissaries of the Klingon empire or whatever lame excuse they can think up. 

 
 
 
PJ
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1.2.39  PJ  replied to  1ofmany @1.2.38    8 years ago

No, I'll blame those who are to blame, Mr. Trump's followers.  Facts don't lie.  You don't like the way Mr. Trump is being portrayed?  Then hold his behavior accountable and make him change his vulgar hateful rhetoric.  

It's really rather simple.  As I've said time and again, a child will continue to do what he is able to get away with.  His follower's are allowing him to do whatever he wants with no consequences.  If the country falls it will be the fault of Mr. Trump's followers.  

 
 
 
1ofmany
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1.2.40  1ofmany  replied to  PJ @1.2.39    8 years ago
No, I'll blame those who are to blame, Mr. Trump's followers.  Facts don't lie.  You don't like the way Mr. Trump is being portrayed?  Then hold his behavior accountable and make him change his vulgar hateful rhetoric.  

Facts don't lie but they’re often spun. If you want to spend your time pointing your finger at them while they point back at you, then knock yourself out. And if the press wants to act as the Trump resistance, that’s fine too. His supporters will just continue to tune the press out and re-elect him. 

It's really rather simple.  As I've said time and again, a child will continue to do what he is able to get away with.  His follower's are allowing him to do whatever he wants with no consequences.  If the country falls it will be the fault of Mr. Trump's followers.  

They don’t see it as you do or care what you think. They think the country has already fallen in some respect and they’re looking to Trump to fix it even if they think he’s obnoxious. For instance, some will endure anything to get conservative justices. Others want border control. Some want Roe reversed. Some are focused on the economy. Some have other issues. But what all have in common is the belief that they can’t get what they want from anybody but Trump. 

 
 
 
PJ
Masters Silent
1.2.42  PJ  replied to  1ofmany @1.2.40    8 years ago
Facts don't lie but they’re often spun.

I know......I've been reading your posts for years.  Winking 2   That you continue to try and protect Mr. Trump and make excuses for his behavior says more about you then him. 

I'm so bummed because I really really liked you even though I find some of your comments a bit homophobic and misogynistic - but - this whole defending Mr. Trump is something I just cannot turn a blind eye to.   We are not compatible.  I'm quitting you 1ofmany (that's what my brother used to say when he was little about breaking up with his girlfriend - he quit her)  lol  Giggle

 
 
 
sixpick
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1.2.43  sixpick  replied to  1ofmany @1.2.13    8 years ago

Liberals are the new leaders of the Democrat Party.  They've decided to call themselves Democratic Socialists, but there are still some Democrats in the Party who haven't fell in line with this new leadership.  A lot of them voted for Trump.

 
 
 
1ofmany
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1.2.44  1ofmany  replied to  PJ @1.2.42    8 years ago
I'm so bummed because I really really liked you even though I find some of your comments a bit homophobic and misogynistic - but - this whole defending Mr. Trump is something I just cannot turn a blind eye to.   We are not compatible.  I'm quitting you 1ofmany (that's what my brother used to say when he was little about breaking up with his girlfriend - he quit her).

If I let you can play with my saber, then you’ll come running back . . . dodging cars, jumping over thrash cans, pushing through crowds. lol.

 
 
 
PJ
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1.2.45  PJ  replied to  1ofmany @1.2.44    8 years ago

maybe..... Hanging loose

 
 
 
1ofmany
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1.2.46  1ofmany  replied to  sixpick @1.2.43    8 years ago

Liberals are the new leaders of the Democrat Party.  They've decided to call themselves Democratic Socialists, but there are still some Democrats in the Party who haven't fell in line with this new leadership.  A lot of them voted for Trump.

All working to get Trump re-elected through sheer stupidity. 

 
 
 
1ofmany
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1.2.48  1ofmany  replied to  PJ @1.2.45    8 years ago

Vixen 

 
 
 
Cerenkov
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1.3  Cerenkov  replied to  96WS6 @1    8 years ago

The party of No.

 
 
 
lib50
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2  lib50    8 years ago

It ain't rocket science.  Name one of any of those vetted (everybody knew) and tell us which one supports a woman's right to full personal rights.  Which one wasn't far right on the issues?  Which one has extensively and publicly advocated protecting a sitting president?  When I knew he was one of the top picks I guessed he be the pick for exactly that reason. 

And don't listen at your peril.

 
 
 
96WS6
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2.1  seeder  96WS6  replied to  lib50 @2    8 years ago

Roe VS Wade is outdated and legalizes murder.  Are you really opposed to moving the date back far enough that you aren't killing a baby capable of life outside the womb?

 
 
 
lib50
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2.1.1  lib50  replied to  96WS6 @2.1    8 years ago

I don't believe that and my spiritual beliefs back them up.  How dare you try to force your particular crap on all women.  Abortion is not murder and not your business.  Feel free to live any way you like to your values, but stay the hell out of mine.

 
 
 
tomwcraig
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2.1.2  tomwcraig  replied to  lib50 @2.1.1    8 years ago

Do you believe EVERYTHING in the Declaration of Independence, lib50?

 
 
 
lady in black
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2.1.6  lady in black  replied to    8 years ago

Life begins _________.  Doesn't matter, what matters is the fact that a fetus will never have rights over a woman.  If you think it should then you have no regard for the woman herself and want to reduce her to a human incubator against her will.

 
 
 
96WS6
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2.1.8  seeder  96WS6  replied to  lib50 @2.1.1    8 years ago
How dare you try to force your particular crap on all women.  Abortion is not murder and not your business.

Abortion once the baby can survive outside the womb IS murder and I'm not OK with murder.  When is it murder in YOUR opinion?  Are you are ok with a mom that is overdue on delivery 2 weeks murdering her child?  Do you still want to be able to kill it once you start labor?  Is it not murder until the baby takes it's first breath?  Until the cord is cut?  Can't we even agree on when a baby is a baby?  

People that don't like being called a murderer because they would kill a healthy child that could survive out of the womb should look in the mirror and think a little more about what they really stand for.

I would like to point out I have no interest of denying you being able to kill your own fetus, I just don't want people murdering babies, so let's talk about when it becomes a baby because that is the real issue when you defend Roe VS Wade, and that is the issue most the left won't even talk about.  Why is that?  Is it because then you would have to admit that in some cases ABORTION IS IN FACT MURDER?

Taking 10 to 1 odds there will be no reply to this post that opens dialog of when it becomes murder from the pro choice crowd.

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Silent
2.1.9  seeder  96WS6  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.3    8 years ago

There is no murder involved.  I get so tired of that nonsense.  

How the hell is Roe v. Wade outdated?  

Obviously all who are opposed are anti-choice, not pro-life.  Opposed to a woman's choices over her own body and her life.  

So you think abortion should be legal after the baby could survive outside the womb?  Is it not murder until the child takes it's first breath?  At what point EXACTLY does the baby have the same rights YOU do?  When EXACTLY is it murder?  We are not talking about if a woman has the right to abort a fetus we are talking about when the fetus becomes a baby.  I know you don't want to talk about it but have you ever thought about it?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.1.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.5    8 years ago

Good find, Tessy. It shows that the American College of Pediatrics really is a far-right fringe group.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
2.1.11  Jasper2529  replied to  lib50 @2.1.1    8 years ago
Abortion is not murder

Abortionist Kermit Gosnell agrees with you. Fortunately, our legal system disagrees with both of you, because he's serving life without parole (plus 30 years) for first degree murder, involuntary manslaughter, and other crimes. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.1.12  Trout Giggles  replied to  96WS6 @2.1.9    8 years ago

Who's killing babies that can survive outside the womb? If you know of these murderers, call the police so that they can be prosecuted

 
 
 
1ofmany
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2.1.13  1ofmany  replied to  lib50 @2.1.1    8 years ago
I don't believe that and my spiritual beliefs back them up.  How dare you try to force your particular crap on all women.  Abortion is not murder and not your business.  Feel free to live any way you like to your values, but stay the hell out of mine.

Ok, how dare women think that they can treat their unborn child as a wad of snot and kill it with impunity. A woman’s real choice over her body is to either use contraceptives or keep her damn legs closed. Once she procreates, then she has arguably created another person who may have rights the state can protect. 

 
 
 
charger 383
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2.1.14  charger 383  replied to  96WS6 @2.1.9    8 years ago
At what point EXACTLY does the baby have the same rights YOU do?

Age of 21 is point of EXACTLY same rights.  

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2.1.15  Colour Me Free  replied to  1ofmany @2.1.13    8 years ago

Disclaimer:  My personal feelings on abortion are of no consequence - I am merely curious to what extent the opposition to abortion has thought out the "what's next" part of the equation ...

Once she procreates, then she has arguably created another person who may have rights the state can protect.

Which opens up a whole other can of worms … unwanted children being carried to term .. then what?  

Tax payer financed foster care is broken and over loaded … not everyone has family that is willing to take in another mouth to feed nor raise the ditzes baby that could not figure out birth control - so then who is it that takes care of these unwanted children carried to term?

The dreaded "welfare queen" is being vilified … social safety nets become a life long support system - many feel that these programs should be cut .. so now where do these unwanted children carried term turn next?

I understand that individuals do not approve of abortion, see it as immoral etc etc etc...  yet what is worse .. a child aborted unaware that he/she was not wanted - or to grow up feeling/knowing they were/are unwanted?

Just asking...

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2.1.16  Colour Me Free  replied to  charger 383 @2.1.14    8 years ago

HA!  Once I was asked at what age a child is viable outside the womb .. the only thing I could think of to say was ..When they buy their own food!

 
 
 
1ofmany
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2.1.17  1ofmany  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.1.15    8 years ago

. . . I understand that individuals do not approve of abortion, see it as immoral etc etc etc...  yet what is worse .. a child aborted unaware that he/she was not wanted - or to grow up feeling/knowing they were/are unwanted?

Just asking...

Unborn children, if declared to be people, may have a right to live no matter how inconvenient they are to others or how unaware they are of their own murder. If being aware were the standard, then it would be ok to murder people while asleep or unconscious. To me, it never was a constitutional or legal issue to begin with. It’s a moral issue more appropriate for a state legislature to determine just like they do anything else.

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Silent
2.1.18  seeder  96WS6  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.10    8 years ago

So when science disagrees with you it's because it is "right wing science"?laughing dude

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.1.19  Trout Giggles  replied to  96WS6 @2.1.18    8 years ago

You're laughing about baby killers?

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Silent
2.1.20  seeder  96WS6  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.19    8 years ago

Now they are baby killers too?   Do they preform abortions?laughing dude

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
2.1.21  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  1ofmany @2.1.17    8 years ago
It’s a moral issue more appropriate for a state legislature to determine just like they do anything else.

It's a fake moral issue for people who consistently show immorality in their own personal lives.  I refer specifically to those several "pro-life" republiscum politicians (and, of course, the sanctimonious hypocrites who voted for them) who pressured their mistresses (!) to get abortions.  This feigned concern for the unborn is also against a backdrop of total indifference if not outright callousness toward the plight of actual children, whether American born in poverty or those brought here in the hopes of escaping horrendous violence in other countries.  Time and time again we're confronted by the disgusting double standard these "moral" people show us.  They sicken the country with their hypocrisy. 

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Silent
2.1.22  seeder  96WS6  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.12    8 years ago

The age a of successful survival outside the womb has changed since the law was written.  Unless you are flat out denying these advances in medicine and science in general, or are FOR killing babies that could survive outside the womb,  why would you be against changing the dates/range of "viability"  in Roe vs Wade?

Given advances in medicine and the refusal to change the term of "viability" in Roe vs Wade, The irony in your statement is you probably know someone personally who fits that description, whether you know it or not...

 
 
 
lady in black
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2.1.23  lady in black  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @2.1.21    8 years ago

But doncha know that's different because it happened to them. /s

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Silent
2.1.24  seeder  96WS6  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @2.1.21    8 years ago

Is that why you don't know what to do when someone approaches you about changing the range of "viability" in roe vs Wade?

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.25  Gordy327  replied to  96WS6 @2.1    8 years ago
Roe VS Wade is outdated

When does the expansion and recognition of individual rights become outdated?

and legalizes murder.

No it doesn't. Abortion is not murder.

Are you really opposed to moving the date back far enough that you aren't killing a baby capable of life outside the womb?

The cutoff for elective abortions is generally at the point of viability. Before that point, a fetus is incapable o surviving outside the womb. So what's the problem?

Abortion once the baby can survive outside the womb IS murder and I'm not OK with murder.

Then it's murder, and not abortion.

When is it murder in YOUR opinion?

Birth.

Are you are ok with a mom that is overdue on delivery 2 weeks murdering her child? Do you still want to be able to kill it once you start labor? Is it not murder until the baby takes it's first breath? Until the cord is cut?

Such hyperbole, to the point of being completely asinine! I doubt women consider "murdering their child" if they're overdue. It's more likely they'll be worried that there is a medical problem. In such cases, a doctor can induce labor or perform a C-section.

Can't we even agree on when a baby is a baby?

Birth.

People that don't like being called a murderer because they would kill a healthy child that could survive out of the womb should look in the mirror and think a little more about what they really stand for.

Who's advocating killing children?

I would like to point out I have no interest of denying you being able to kill your own fetus,

Good, because it's really none of your or anyone else's business.

I just don't want people murdering babies,

Murdering babies is illegal. o if you know anyone doing that, you should contact the authorities immediately.

so let's talk about when it becomes a baby

Birth.

because that is the real issue when you defend Roe VS Wade,

No. Roe is about women's rights and autonomy. It established woman cannot be denied their right to choose. Roe touched on when abortions are permissible or not. Subsequent abortion cases only expanded on that.

and that is the issue most the left won't even talk about. Why is that?

What's to talk about exactly? Abortion is a settled matter and established legal precedent.

Is it because then you would have to admit that in some cases ABORTION IS IN FACT MURDER?

What "cases" precisely? Calling abortion murder is factually and legally incorrect.

Taking 10 to 1 odds there will be no reply to this post that opens dialog of when it becomes murder from the pro choice crowd.

Looks like you just lost that bet.

So you think abortion should be legal after the baby could survive outside the womb?

it already is. But usually in cases of medical necessity.

Is it not murder until the child takes it's first breath? At what point EXACTLY does the baby have the same rights YOU do? When EXACTLY is it murder?

Birth. (I feel like I'm starting to repeat myself here)

We are not talking about if a woman has the right to abort a fetus we are talking about when the fetus becomes a baby.

Geez, I am repeating myself. Ok, once again, birth!

I know you don't want to talk about it but have you ever thought about it?

What's to think about: abortion is a woman's legal right, it her business and no one else's, her reasons for choosing to have an abortion or not are hers and hers alone, and it's not a baby until birth (before then, it's a fetus). Not only did I talk about it, I also summed it up for you.

Is that why you don't know what to do when someone approaches you about changing the range of "viability" in roe vs Wade?

Viability is a medical determination, not a legal one. The courts simply used that determination to establish limits on elective abortion.

The age a of successful survival outside the womb has changed since the law was written. Unless you are flat out denying these advances in medicine and science in general, or are FOR killing babies that could survive outside the womb, why would you be against changing the dates/range of "viability" in Roe vs Wade?

Viability is approximately 23 weeks gestation. Even at that point, a fetus only has a 50% chance of survival at best.

Given advances in medicine and the refusal to change the term of "viability" in Roe vs Wade,

Medical science has not reduced the point of viability. Only the survival chances at that point.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.1.26  Trout Giggles  replied to  96WS6 @2.1.20    8 years ago

I won't discuss a serious issue with someone who isn't serious.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.1.27  Trout Giggles  replied to  Gordy327 @2.1.25    8 years ago

My daughter is a Neo-Natal Nurse and has taken care of preemies that were born right around the 24 week gestation age.** She said they can usually make it with the technology they have at the hospital. Anything less than 24 week gestation and the child almost always dies.

**Of course that's not even going into the developmental difficulties the child may have

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
2.1.28  Gordy327  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.27    8 years ago
My daughter is a Neo-Natal Nurse and has taken care of preemies that were born right around the 24 week gestation age.**

My respect and admiration for your daughter. Neonatal nursing is a stressful and difficult field of nursing. Kudos to her.

She said they can usually make it with the technology they have at the hospital. Anything less than 24 week gestation and the child almost always dies.

True. As I said, medical science only improves the chances of survival, not necessarily the point of survival.

**Of course that's not even going into the developmental difficulties the child may have

indeed.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Silent
2.1.29  Colour Me Free  replied to  1ofmany @2.1.17    8 years ago
Unborn children, if declared to be people, may have a right to live no matter how inconvenient they are to others or how unaware they are of their own murder.

Yet that is the point 1ofmany … it is the child that ultimately pays the price for that right to life … even though they did not have a say in it.

Schools are full of students whose mothers and fathers cannot even take the time to attend a parent teachers conference .. take no interest in their child's goals, the child's achievements - nor needed discipline .. many young people are raising themselves..  Which opens up the conversation to quality of said right to life ...…  my sons have had, still have friends that parents could not careless about them .. unless said parents are inconvenienced by them - in which case I get a knock at the door as said children seek refuge at my house.

I am a strong supporter in States rights .. and am a bit originalist when it comes to the Constitution ………. yet abortion is a legal issue, ever bit as much as it is a moral issue .. as soon as a State makes a decision one way or another regarding abortion … it becomes a matter of law, as well as a court issue on how the law is to be enforced / implemented .. abortion is far outside the realm of what a religion believes, or an individual believes is morality... in my opinion anyways …

How unwanted children should be paid for has still not been addressed .. I think that is a extremely big factor - especially when individuals scream about the costs of Medicaid .. food stamps etc...

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
2.1.30  Sunshine  replied to  96WS6 @2.1.22    8 years ago
Given advances in medicine

They think a baby just plops out and survives on it's own.  Strange criteria.  Regardless of how many weeks of growth, a baby can not survive without assistance. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.1.31  Trout Giggles  replied to  Gordy327 @2.1.28    8 years ago

Thank-you. She loves her job. She decided to go into neo-natal when she was working as a nurse tech while in school. She can't stand taking care of adults because all they do is complain.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.1.32  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sunshine @2.1.30    8 years ago

I've had 2 babies of my own. I know they don't just "plop out". Stop insulting our intelligence

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Participates
2.1.33  Gordy327  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.31    8 years ago
She loves her job.

That's always important.

She decided to go into neo-natal when she was working as a nurse tech while in school.

Good for her, to make such a career choice. She should be very proud.

She can't stand taking care of adults because all they do is complain.

So true. just look at some of them complain here, LOL

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
2.1.38  It Is ME  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.32    8 years ago
I know they don't just "plop out".

Maybe with you, and some others. My wife was a baby machine. Water breaks, 35 minutes later we have a son, daughter and another son....and no....not all at the same time. Doctor never made it into the delivery room any of those times. Saved me bunches of bucks. I suppose you could say, some are more Blessed than others. chuckle

 
 
 
1ofmany
Sophomore Silent
2.1.39  1ofmany  replied to  Colour Me Free @2.1.29    8 years ago
. . .  I am a strong supporter in States rights .. and am a bit originalist when it comes to the Constitution ………. yet abortion is a legal issue, ever bit as much as it is a moral issue .. as soon as a State makes a decision one way or another regarding abortion … it becomes a matter of law, as well as a court issue on how the law is to be enforced / implemented .. abortion is far outside the realm of what a religion believes, or an individual believes is morality... in my opinion anyways …

I understand your position but I disagree. The constitution is not a panacea for every situation. All the Court has to do is say that it’s isn't addressed in the constitution and then leave it to each state to decide under the 10th amendment. 

 
 
 
PJ
Masters Silent
2.1.41  PJ  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.26    8 years ago

These are the same people that are okay with someone going into a school shooting up teenagers.  

They have no credibility.  Talk about phucked up logic.  Don't waste your time.  You're a woman and therefore they need to tell you how to behave and what to believe.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.1.42  Trout Giggles  replied to  PJ @2.1.41    8 years ago

And they continue with the "sanctity of life" and "all life is sacred" memes.

They totally contradict themselves when they support cutting off support for Medicare and supporting the War Machine

 
 
 
PJ
Masters Silent
2.1.43  PJ  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.42    8 years ago

Good points.  I forgot how they actively work against the elderly and the very poor.   

 
 
 
1ofmany
Sophomore Silent
3  1ofmany    8 years ago

Schumer isn’t likely to get any bipartisan support when liberal groups make it obvious that they’re driven by blind hatred of anybody Trump nominates. Trump should thank the Women’s March for their help. 

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Silent
3.1  seeder  96WS6  replied to  1ofmany @3    8 years ago

Well it isn't like it wasn't already common knowledge, it just makes it harder to deny.

 
 
 
1ofmany
Sophomore Silent
3.1.1  1ofmany  replied to  96WS6 @3.1    8 years ago

Democrats sound like they’re in a hillbilly feud where one side’s comment about the other is “it don’t matter what he says, if he’s fer it, then I’m agin it.” And, after saying it, they look surprised when the other side responds by sticking shotguns out the window and aiming at them. 

 
 
 
katlin02
Freshman Silent
3.1.2  katlin02  replied to  1ofmany @3.1.1    8 years ago
Democrats sound like they’re in a hillbilly feud where one side’s comment about the other is “it don’t matter what he says, if he’s fer it, then I’m agin it.” And, after saying it, they look surprised when the other side responds by sticking shotguns out the window and aiming at them.

laughing dude ---omg i had to laugh at that--because it is so true nowdays.

hell dems have said they are against tax cuts- people having more money,,they are against lower unemployment, they are against a stronger GDP---weren't they praising obama for doing this by 1% and now trump has done it by 4% and they are agin it........

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
3.2  lib50  replied to  1ofmany @3    8 years ago

(Deleted)

 
 
 
Spikegary
Junior Quiet
3.3  Spikegary  replied to  1ofmany @3    8 years ago
These folks have become really good at shooting themselves in the foot. 

Maybe that's why they want to ban guns.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
3.5  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  1ofmany @3    8 years ago
Schumer isn’t likely to get any bipartisan support when liberal groups make it obvious that they’re driven by blind hatred of anybody Trump nominates.

It's truly a remarkable display of a complete lack of awareness that someone could think that after how ( deleted )  treated Obama's nominee for Scalia's replacement in 2016.  Scalia's empty seat on the court was simply stolen--no two ways about it. 

 
 
 
Spikegary
Junior Quiet
3.5.1  Spikegary  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @3.5    8 years ago

Off topic much?  President Trump already has one nomination seated.  His name is Neil Gorsuch.  So you are only worried about the 2nd nomnation?  Wait until Judge Ginsberg retires.....you will be absolutely apoplectic. 

Probably should have gone after the Dems a few years back, when they decided to wave the super majority requirments for their appointees.  Anyone with a lick of common sense could have seen that it would actually bite them in the ass.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
3.5.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Spikegary @3.5.1    8 years ago
Off topic much?

Desperate not to face reality and the consequences of the fascist-like behavior ( deleted )

 
 
 
katlin02
Freshman Silent
3.5.3  katlin02  replied to  Spikegary @3.5.1    8 years ago

i do think mconnell tried to warn reid at the time----now it is biting them in the ass and they are cryin, hey chuckie schumer.

 
 
 
1ofmany
Sophomore Silent
3.5.5  1ofmany  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @3.5    8 years ago

“Schumer isn’t likely to get any bipartisan support when liberal groups make it obvious that they’re driven by blind hatred of anybody Trump nominates.”

It's truly a remarkable display of a complete lack of awareness that someone could think that after how (deleted)  treated Obama's nominee for Scalia's replacement in 2016. 

Uh huh. Well you mosey on over and see if you can work out a bipartisan deal after calling them  ( Deleted )

Scalia's empty seat on the court was simply stolen--no two ways about it.

Seats can’t be owned or reserved. But if they can be, then Scalia’s seat was reserved for another conservative like Scalia and Republicans stopped Democrats from stealing it. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
5  Sunshine    8 years ago

“In response to Donald Trump’s nomination of XX to the Supreme Court of the United States.”

What they should have done...“In response to Donald Trump’s nomination to the Supreme Court of the United States.”

At least they wouldn't look too much like a bunch of dumbasses.

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Silent
5.1  seeder  96WS6  replied to  Sunshine @5    8 years ago

That would require actual thought process...

 
 
 
Cerenkov
Professor Silent
5.1.1  Cerenkov  replied to  96WS6 @5.1    8 years ago

That's not part of a liberal skill set.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
5.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Sunshine @5    8 years ago
At least they wouldn't look too much like a bunch of dumbasses.

You mean like this one:

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
5.2.1  Sunshine  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @5.2    8 years ago

I don't see the relevance....did Santorum make an ass of himself?  He stated an opinion based on the actual person picked not a blanket statement prior to any nominee.  

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Silent
5.2.2  seeder  96WS6  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @5.2    8 years ago

Not even close.  Sanatorum not only knows who the pick is, he demonstrated he actually knows some facts about the pick as well and made objections based on those facts.   Are there any other examples of bat shit crazy VS sensible approach you would like to point out?

 
 
 
Silent_Hysteria
Freshman Silent
6  Silent_Hysteria    8 years ago

Weaponized outrage.  It's the new political tool.  It doesn't matter if you are actually outraged... it only matters if you can attack the other side with your opinion.

just like the group who was protesting ice while they were making arrests.... of child traffickers.  In their mind ICE is bad and no matter what they do they will protest them.  Same with trump.  He could have picked a liberal judge and they would have found a reason to protest.  

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
Professor Guide
7  A. Macarthur    8 years ago

LET'S SEE THE ACTUAL, FULL TWEET!

LET'S SEE THE SOURCE OF THE SO-CALLED TWEET!

This is A TWEET ABOUT THE ALLEGED TWEET … IT IS NOT THE TWEET ITSELF … if there actually is one …

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As far as I can tell, the "report" come from the WASHINGTON TIMES and INFO WARS.

Between 1998 and 2004, the  Times  covered every biennial American Renaissance conference, hosted by the white supremacist New Century Foundation. According to the  Columbia Journalism Review , "the paper’s coverage of these events—which are hotbeds for holocaust deniers, neo-Nazis, and eugenicists—was stunningly one sided," favorably depicting the conference content and conference goers. [76]

Under Pruden's editorship, the   Times   regularly printed excerpts from white supremacist publications, such as VDARE and American Renaissance magazine, and   Bill White , leader of the American   National Socialist   Workers' Party, in its Culture Briefs section. [76]   Under Pruden's editorship, an entire page in the Sunday edition was devoted to the American Civil War, often times glorifying the Confederacy. [76]

Pruden himself authored columns where he argued that Barack Obama could not understand or appreciate America due to his race. In a 2009 column entitled "'Inner Muslim' at work in Cairo", Pruden wrote that Obama is the "first president without an instinctive appreciation of the culture, history, tradition, common law and literature whence America sprang. The genetic imprint writ large in his 43 predecessors is missing from the Obama DNA." [76]   In another 2009 column, Pruden wrote that Obama had “no natural instinct or blood impulse” for what America was about because he was “sired by a Kenyan father” and “born to a mother attracted to men of the Third World.” [76]   These columns stirred controversy, leading the   Times   to assign the Deputy Editorial Page Editor to edit Pruden's work. [76] The editor in question, David Mastio, said that drafts provided by Pruden used subtle racism and glorified the Confederacy, "He was constantly re-litigating the Civil War, and attacking the historical figures on the right side of the war, Lincoln and Grant being his favorites... He also used terms with animal implications when referring to blacks". [76]

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InfoWars  (stylized as  INFO WA RS) is an American  conspiracy theorist and  fake news  website and media platform owned by  Alex Jones 's Free Speech Systems LLC. [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]  It was founded in 1999.

Talk shows and other content are created primarily in studios at an undisclosed location in an industrial area outside  Austin , Texas. [8]  The  InfoWars  website receives approximately 10 million monthly visits, making it more visited than some  mainstream news  websites such as  The Economist  and  Newsweek . [9] [10]

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Find and post a VERIFIABLE, ORIGINAL TWEET FROM THE ALLEGED SOURCE … and I will apologize unequivocally for what I have implied … otherwise, the seeded article is the usual right-wing bullshit/hate screed crap.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
Junior Quiet
7.1  KDMichigan  replied to  A. Macarthur @7    8 years ago
This is A TWEET ABOUT THE ALLEGED TWEET … IT IS NOT THE TWEET ITSELF … if there actually is one …

Well golly I'm sure you're not going to see a article on this in any leftwing news site so you can be safe in your denial that it ever happened.

 
 
 
Cerenkov
Professor Silent
7.1.1  Cerenkov  replied to  KDMichigan @7.1    8 years ago

Ridiculous right?

 
 
 
katlin02
Freshman Silent
9  katlin02    8 years ago

Carrie Severino, chief counsel for the conservative Judicial Crisis Network, said the   Supreme Court   question alone has the potential to expand   Mr. Trump ’s base.

“Vast majorities of the country do not want the   court   to shift left, and its undeniable that would happen if   Hillary Clinton   is elected,” said Ms. Severino, a former clerk for   Supreme Court   Justice Clarence Thomas.

“For a lot of people, the  Supreme Court  is the No. 1 reason that they want to vote for  Donald Trump . Really, it is a vote against  Hillary Clinton  having any say about who is on the  Supreme Court ,” she said.

sorry but the vast majority of americans really don't care how much the libs protest and cry and whine about this---the left is going to have  very rough next 6 yrs...trump is your president  just deal with it.. you see elections have consequences and we won--gee who said that ?

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
9.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  katlin02 @9    8 years ago
sorry but the vast majority of americans really don't care how much the libs protest and cry and whine about this---the left is going to have  very rough next 6 yrs...trump is your president  just deal with it.. you see elections have consequences and we won--gee who said that ?

That's some beautiful whistling (past the graveyard) you got goin' there.  Have you ever thought of trying out for this new show, America's Got No Talent?

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
Professor Guide
9.2  A. Macarthur  replied to  katlin02 @9    8 years ago
sorry but the vast majority of americans really don't care how much the libs protest and cry and whine

And yet, many of them CARE ENOUGH TO TAKE THE TIME AND MAKE THE EFFORT TO TELL US HOW MUCH THEY DON'T CARE!

So who's actually crying and whining?

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
Professor Guide
9.3  A. Macarthur  replied to  katlin02 @9    8 years ago
Carrie Severino, chief counsel for the conservative Judicial Crisis Network, said the  Supreme Court  question alone has the potential to expand  Mr. Trump ’s base.

I'm f'n shocked that Carrie would say such a thing!

Carrie? 

Carrie … really?

Carrie Severino  is an  American  lawyer. She serves as chief counsel and policy director at the  Judicial Crisis Network , a conservative legal organization. [3] [4]  She was previously a  law clerk  to  United States Supreme Court  Justice  Clarence Thomas  and to Judge  David B. Sentelle  of the  United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit . [5]  She is a contributor to  National Review . [6] [7]

Severino has been involved with constitutional challenges to the  Affordable Care Act . [9] [10]

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
Professor Guide
9.3.3  A. Macarthur  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.3.1    8 years ago
She’s a well qualified, highly experienced person who knows well what she’s talking about.

I give you specifics regarding her background and agenda, and you, whom I question as to your qualifications to evaluate hers, declare her wonderfulness.

THIS is the Trumpian mentality … simplistic, fact-free pronouncements.

Frightening.

 
 

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