Donald Trump Went Into Private Conversation With Putin And came Out Saying Montenegro Could Cause World War 3
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It’s weird that Donald Trump had a long private meeting with Vladimir Putin and suddenly emerged with a newfound interest in undermining US security guarantees to Montenegro.
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"Montenegro says a group of Serb and Russian nationalists had a plan to attack state institutions on the day of an election last year and kill then-Prime Minister Milo Djukanovic, " https://www. reuters.com/article/us-mon tenegro-election-trial/montenegro-begins-trial-of-alleged-pro-russian-coup-plotters-idUSKBN1A413F …
During an interview with Tucker Carlson that was taped immediately after the Trump-Putin summit, the subject of Montenegro somehow comes up, and Trump belittles the tiny country.
Trump ... suggested Montenegro's "aggressive people" could spark a global conflict.
"By the way, they're very strong people — they're very aggressive people," Trump said. "They may get aggressive. And congratulations, you're in World War III."
https:// www.telegraph.co.uk /news/2017/02/18/ russia s-deadly-plot...
An election day coup plot to attack Montenegro ’s parliament and kill the pro-Western leader was directed by Russian intelligence officers with the support and blessing of Moscow, to sabotage the country’s plan to join Nato.
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Would it surprise anyone if it turned out that Putin put it in Trump's mind for him to criticize Montenegro? Would it surprise anyone if Trump agreed to do it?
Of course not. That is not to say it happened, but with this lying, cheating, sneaky president, it sounds very plausible.
I think it is not only plausible that Putin poisoned Montenegro to Trump in their private meeting, and Trump acted to please Putin over the subject later that night, I think it is likely to have happened.
The tiny Balkan country of scarcely more than 600,000 people is known mostly for its sunny Adriatic beaches - so why is Trump portraying it as a threat?
Where, then, does Trump’s bizarre belief that little Montenegro is a big problem for America come from? It may not be irrelevant that Moscow was very upset about that tiny Balkan country joining the Atlantic Alliance. Putin’s regime pulled out the stops to block the pro-Western government in Podgorica from entering NATO.
2 hours ago · Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said Wednesday that President Trump played into the hands of Russian President Vladimir Putin by "attacking Montenegro and questioning our obligations under NATO." Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said Wednesday that President Trump played into the hands of Russian President Vladimir Putin by "attacking Montenegro …
There is little doubt in my mind that Putin put this idea in Trumps head. Russia is obsessed that these countries are joining NATO...If Trump even knew where Montenegro was located on the world map, which I doubt, he would see that they have access to the sea, something that Russia craves more of...Russia has been meddling in their affairs for a while now.
Trump ... suggested Montenegro's "aggressive people" could spark a global conflict.
"By the way, they're very strong people — they're very aggressive people," Trump said. "They may get aggressive. And congratulations, you're in World War III."
This is a country of approx. 700,000 people and an army of 2,000. Are they going to attack Russia...How fucking stupid can one get. I'm sure that they are intent on starting WWIII.
In WWII they were occupied by the Italians and a uprising caused the Nazi's to put troops there as they became part of the Third Front in Europe. Western front, Eastern Front and the Tito Front and fought the Nazi's. As part of the old Yugoslavia they were part of the confrontation between Tito and Yugoslavia and Stalin and Russia. And became part of the non-aligned movement of countries.
It's interesting to note that this tiny country, among other tiny countries, has troops in Afghanistan and contribute monetarily to it. They had troops there long before they became part of NATO...They they put their money where there mouth is.
When it comes to the likes of Tucker Carlson concerned about his son having to fight for Montenegro, I would ask him, ''but your alright with the sons of the Montenegrin people fighting for us?'' I would point out that he never served in the US Military and I doubt if any of his kids have either. Yes, the old wrap yourself in the flag and proclaim what a patriot you are.
Let's be real - Donald Trump had never heard of Montenegro before his summit with Putin, and when he first heard the word he giggled like a schoolgirl.
WWI was started because of Serbia and Bosnia, hardly superpowers with the assassination of Arch Duke Ferdinand of Bosnia by a Serbian, Gavrilo Princip.
“WORLD WAR I BEGINS
Convinced that Austria-Hungary was readying for war, the Serbian government ordered the Serbian army to mobilize, and appealed to Russia for assistance. On July 28, Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia, and the tenuous peace between Europe’s great powers quickly collapsed.
Within a week, Russia, Belgium, France, Great Britain and Serbia had lined up against Austria-Hungary and Germany, and World War I had begun.”
A couple of things livefree, the Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand was from Hungry-Este, not Bosnia.
Serbia at the start of WWI had a population of 1.6 million and had recently won wars with the Ottoman Empire and Bulgaria and had the most powerful army in the Balkans.
The history in of the Balkans, Hungry, Austria is quite complicated and confrontational.
But, I fail to see what your comment has to do with the current situation in Montenegro. A few years back there was an attempt to assassinate the PM of Montenegro on the eve of their acceptence into NATO. Montenegro has claimed the coup was backed by Russia.
It would seem if there are aggressors in the Balkans it would be the Russians, which have a great deal to lose as more of the countries in the area become part of NATO. IE: Croatia, Bosnia, Albania etc. If you review a map, you'll see that if the aforementioned countries do become part of NATO that the West will have NATO on all of the Adriatic sea and will border Greece which would be a continual wall in the area against Russian expansion.
Sadly livefree I'm not surprised that you try to pass off a obviously false statement as fact.
Trump responded on the fact that an attack on Montenegro could easily produce a Third World War.
No he didn't...This is his exact quote.
Trump ... suggested Montenegro's "aggressive people" could spark a global conflict.
"By the way, they're very strong people — they're very aggressive people," Trump said. "They may get aggressive. And congratulations, you're in World War III."
That in no way confirms your comment on what he said.
im beginning to believe the left wants war with Russia
I'm beginning to believe that you have no idea of what this article is about.
Trump responded on the fact that an attack on Montenegro could easily produce a Third World War.
Trump got his orders from Putin, that is why he insisted on being alone with Putin. He didn't confront Putin with ANYTHING. They are both liars, so it really doesn't matter what either say, we can see with our own eyes how it went down. Trump has cowered before Putin every single time. He is deferential every time. He never takes the side of the US, he always takes Putin's side. And a few pathetic attempts at 'corrections' don't count, its pure gaslighting. Trump is Putin's poodle and the world saw it in its glory Monday. Don't try to pretend Trump would ever say the word 'Montenegro' unless Putin told him to.
Are you claiming to have ESP and know things that happened half a world away from you behind closed doors?
The thing is, what I said is far more likely than what Trump and Putin are saying. Logical deduction, knowing the history of both and observing words and deeds over time. Are you actually trying to get us to believe what two liars say? lol.
Nonsense. My God is God of very God who will one day cast Lucifer/Satan in hell
isn't Lucifer/Satan/Asmodeus/Amjad/Hades/Loki/Lillith/Mastema/Set/Yama -- etc etc supposed to already be in Hell ? are you stating that somehow, after being cast into Hell and imprisoned there by your almighty all-powerful God, he escaped ? how is that possible ?
The Lucifer story is one that should give anyone pause. An omnipotent God who cannot control the epitome of evil? No, wait, livefreeordie says that God will 'one day' do away with Lucifer. So God wants Lucifer to be around now.
So many basic contradictions ... how can anyone accept the Bible as divine?
BS livefree....It was very clear what he was saying and what Trump was responding to...You can spin it anyway you please but the bottom line is the TWO NON MILITARY SERVING POS don't have any idea what they are talking about.
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it's extremely amusing that you must resort to a book full of more holes than swiss cheese to try to answer my questions since you apparently can't come up with the answer on your own. it's the perfect preprogrammed indoctrinated response that i fully expected from a supposed religious leader such as yourself, please keep it up
1. The leader of Montenegro was the person 'the Trump' pushed aside as he moved to the front of the group, pulling his jacket, fluffing his chest as if he were a mating grouse.
2. The last five letters in the spelling of the country in question here, forced an immediate Pavlonian response in 'the Trump' of ( Obama Reaction Syndrome. )
3. There it is. There you have it. Read em' and weep, suckers.
The leader of Montenegro was the person 'the Trump' pushed aside as he moved to the front of the group,
I didn't know that
The last five letters in the spelling of the country in question here, forced an immediate Pavlonian response in 'the Trump' of ( Obama Reaction Syndrome. )
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My French is rusty but doesn't Monte mean mountain and negro means black? And yes, I know, Montenegro is not French...but I'm playing with words here. So basically Montenegro means Black Mountain, correct?
The Government of Montenegro, taking into account the interest of numerous domestic and foreign media to comment on yesterday's statement by US President Donald Trump given in an interview with TV FOX, adopted at today's 86th Cabinet session the following stance:
Montenegro is proud of its history and tradition and peaceful politics that led to the position of a stabilising state in the region and the only state in which the war didn't rage during disintegration of the former Yugoslavia.
The country that has hosted and protected 120,000 affected people and families.
The country that was the first in Europe to resist the Fascism, and today as a new NATO member and a candidate for the EU membership it contributes to peace and stability not only on the European continent but worldwide, along with US soldiers in Afghanistan.
We build friendships, and we have not lost single one, and at the same time we are able to boldly and defensively protect and defend our own national interests.
In today's world, it does not matter how big or small you are, but to what extent you cherish the values of freedom, solidarity and democracy.
Therefore, the friendship and the alliance of Montenegro and the United States of America is strong and permanent.
PUBLIC RELATIONS SERVICE OF THE GOVERNMENT OF MONTENEGRO
Regardless of all of this. I actually agree we shouldn't be worried about sending US citizens to die for any country. Especially considering how many talk shit about US imperialism and then rely on the US to protect them. They can't even be bothered to contribute more money to the defense fund while American citizens are expected to die tonorotect them. Yet they want to highlight the 24 people they sent to Iraq that never left the base as reciprocal support? Go fuck yourself. Anyone who served knows the countries that had a handful of soldiers on base that never did anything. Canada, Australia, and the U.K. did a little at least
I think it is not only plausible that Putin poisoned Montenegro to Trump in their private meeting, and Trump acted to please Putin over the subject later that night, I think it is likely to have happened.
Why did Trump choose to parrot Putin on Montenegro?
The tiny Balkan country of scarcely more than 600,000 people is known mostly for its sunny Adriatic beaches - so why is Trump portraying it as a threat?
Where, then, does Trump’s bizarre belief that little Montenegro is a big problem for America come from? It may not be irrelevant that Moscow was very upset about that tiny Balkan country joining the Atlantic Alliance. Putin’s regime pulled out the stops to block the pro-Western government in Podgorica from entering NATO.
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McCain: Trump plays into ' Putin 's hands' by attacking Montenegro...
2 hours ago · Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said Wednesday that President Trump played into the hands of Russian President Vladimir Putin by "attacking Montenegro and questioning our obligations under NATO." Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said Wednesday that President Trump played into the hands of Russian President Vladimir Putin by "attacking Montenegro …
I love how the "leader" of the only country to invoke NATO's mutual defense contract is whining about a tiny NATO member which never has.
Projection-r-US.
A war starting in Montenegro is suspiciously similar to the start of World War One in 1914.
I would like to see Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon lead the cavalry charge up the Montenegran hills.
Can we add Jerrod Kushner, Sean Hannity, and John Bolton to that brigade?
Betsy DeVos will serve as a combat nurse.
No. Give her a rifle and get her to charge up that hill, too.
I don't want her anywhere near bleeding people. It takes science to care for the sick and the wounded
Her aid station could be really, really close to the front.
There is little doubt in my mind that Putin put this idea in Trumps head. Russia is obsessed that these countries are joining NATO...If Trump even knew where Montenegro was located on the world map, which I doubt, he would see that they have access to the sea, something that Russia craves more of...Russia has been meddling in their affairs for a while now.
This is a country of approx. 700,000 people and an army of 2,000. Are they going to attack Russia...How fucking stupid can one get. I'm sure that they are intent on starting WWIII.
In WWII they were occupied by the Italians and a uprising caused the Nazi's to put troops there as they became part of the Third Front in Europe. Western front, Eastern Front and the Tito Front and fought the Nazi's. As part of the old Yugoslavia they were part of the confrontation between Tito and Yugoslavia and Stalin and Russia. And became part of the non-aligned movement of countries.
It's interesting to note that this tiny country, among other tiny countries, has troops in Afghanistan and contribute monetarily to it. They had troops there long before they became part of NATO...They they put their money where there mouth is.
When it comes to the likes of Tucker Carlson concerned about his son having to fight for Montenegro, I would ask him, ''but your alright with the sons of the Montenegrin people fighting for us?'' I would point out that he never served in the US Military and I doubt if any of his kids have either. Yes, the old wrap yourself in the flag and proclaim what a patriot you are.
Montenegro is located on the Adriatic Sea which leads directly into the Med.
thanks
Let's be real - Donald Trump had never heard of Montenegro before his summit with Putin, and when he first heard the word he giggled like a schoolgirl.
What are the odds he could spell it correctly on twitter?
he thought it was a bi-racial exotic get away vacation destination
Maybe he was thinking of the show "Bones" and, one of the characters on it.
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WWI was started because of Serbia and Bosnia, hardly superpowers with the assassination of Arch Duke Ferdinand of Bosnia by a Serbian, Gavrilo Princip.
“WORLD WAR I BEGINS
Convinced that Austria-Hungary was readying for war, the Serbian government ordered the Serbian army to mobilize, and appealed to Russia for assistance. On July 28, Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia, and the tenuous peace between Europe’s great powers quickly collapsed.
Within a week, Russia, Belgium, France, Great Britain and Serbia had lined up against Austria-Hungary and Germany, and World War I had begun.”
A couple of things livefree, the Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand was from Hungry-Este, not Bosnia.
Serbia at the start of WWI had a population of 1.6 million and had recently won wars with the Ottoman Empire and Bulgaria and had the most powerful army in the Balkans.
The history in of the Balkans, Hungry, Austria is quite complicated and confrontational.
But, I fail to see what your comment has to do with the current situation in Montenegro. A few years back there was an attempt to assassinate the PM of Montenegro on the eve of their acceptence into NATO. Montenegro has claimed the coup was backed by Russia.
It would seem if there are aggressors in the Balkans it would be the Russians, which have a great deal to lose as more of the countries in the area become part of NATO. IE: Croatia, Bosnia, Albania etc. If you review a map, you'll see that if the aforementioned countries do become part of NATO that the West will have NATO on all of the Adriatic sea and will border Greece which would be a continual wall in the area against Russian expansion.
I’m not surprised that you don’t understand this.
Trump responded on the fact that an attack on Montenegro could easily produce a Third World War.
im beginning to believe the left wants war with Russia
Sadly livefree I'm not surprised that you try to pass off a obviously false statement as fact.
No he didn't...This is his exact quote.
That in no way confirms your comment on what he said.
I'm beginning to believe that you have no idea of what this article is about.
Trump got his orders from Putin, that is why he insisted on being alone with Putin. He didn't confront Putin with ANYTHING. They are both liars, so it really doesn't matter what either say, we can see with our own eyes how it went down. Trump has cowered before Putin every single time. He is deferential every time. He never takes the side of the US, he always takes Putin's side. And a few pathetic attempts at 'corrections' don't count, its pure gaslighting. Trump is Putin's poodle and the world saw it in its glory Monday. Don't try to pretend Trump would ever say the word 'Montenegro' unless Putin told him to.
Are you claiming to have ESP and know things that happened half a world away from you behind closed doors? Wow!
Well they have been pushing for it since we'll before the election. Hillary was even proposing a aerial showdown over Syria with the Russians.
The thing is, what I said is far more likely than what Trump and Putin are saying. Logical deduction, knowing the history of both and observing words and deeds over time. Are you actually trying to get us to believe what two liars say? lol.
Oh, dear, make it go away!
LOL, perfect.
I'm beginning to believe your deity is Lucifer.
I think I'll make this one my new avatar,
In the context of Tucker’s interview wherein Tucker spoke of the absurdity of war because of a potential attack on Montenegro
Nonsense. My God is God of very God who will one day cast Lucifer/Satan in hell
isn't Lucifer/Satan/Asmodeus/Amjad/Hades/Loki/Lillith/Mastema/Set/Yama -- etc etc supposed to already be in Hell ? are you stating that somehow, after being cast into Hell and imprisoned there by your almighty all-powerful God, he escaped ? how is that possible ?
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If your god is omniscient and omnipotent then why did he create Lucifer? Why do other religions exist?
Did you ever notice that the one true religion always seems to be the majority religion of your birth?
The Lucifer story is one that should give anyone pause. An omnipotent God who cannot control the epitome of evil? No, wait, livefreeordie says that God will 'one day' do away with Lucifer. So God wants Lucifer to be around now.
So many basic contradictions ... how can anyone accept the Bible as divine?
BS livefree....It was very clear what he was saying and what Trump was responding to...You can spin it anyway you please but the bottom line is the TWO NON MILITARY SERVING POS don't have any idea what they are talking about.
it's extremely amusing that you must resort to a book full of more holes than swiss cheese to try to answer my questions since you apparently can't come up with the answer on your own. it's the perfect preprogrammed indoctrinated response that i fully expected from a supposed religious leader such as yourself, please keep it up
The take down the religious message on your member page.
It's almost to the point where logical thought is declared to be a tool of the devil.
Am completely flummoxed that you all missed this.
1. The leader of Montenegro was the person 'the Trump' pushed aside as he moved to the front of the group, pulling his jacket, fluffing his chest as if he were a mating grouse.
2. The last five letters in the spelling of the country in question here, forced an immediate Pavlonian response in 'the Trump' of ( Obama Reaction Syndrome. )
3. There it is. There you have it. Read em' and weep, suckers.
I didn't know that
snort
My French is rusty but doesn't Monte mean mountain and negro means black? And yes, I know, Montenegro is not French...but I'm playing with words here. So basically Montenegro means Black Mountain, correct?
Yes Montenegro means, black mountain....In Montenegrin it is, Crja Gora...
Absolutely. What you said is factual. However, this discussion concerns the Trump. Facts, reason and truth are an impediment.
Press release in Montenegrin:
A perfect response by Montenegro.
Regardless of all of this. I actually agree we shouldn't be worried about sending US citizens to die for any country. Especially considering how many talk shit about US imperialism and then rely on the US to protect them. They can't even be bothered to contribute more money to the defense fund while American citizens are expected to die tonorotect them. Yet they want to highlight the 24 people they sent to Iraq that never left the base as reciprocal support? Go fuck yourself. Anyone who served knows the countries that had a handful of soldiers on base that never did anything. Canada, Australia, and the U.K. did a little at least