ICE should be done away with; and replaced with the US military whose job is to protect the US from threats both foreign and domestic.
Instead of Trump's wall- build a virtual wall made up of motion, heat, sound, and vibration sensors (for the tunnelers). Have drones patrolling the border 24/7. Put as many military bases on the borders (that includes the one to the north) as needed to have troops ready to respond to incursions.
Then stop paying other countries to handle our port security. Turn that over to the military as well. See if the drug cartels, coyotes, and sex traffickers like facing the US military- instead of the underfunded, always attacked by the left, ICE.
The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 prohibits the use of U.S. military forces to perform the tasks of civilian law enforcement such as arrest, apprehension, interrogation, and detention unless explicitly authorized by Congress.
Liberals put their lunacy on display so everyone knows exactly what they think and then will be flabbergasted when Trump is re-elected. I didn’t vote for Trump or Hillary because both fall well below my minimum standards. But, honestly, if I have to pick between an idiot who thinks ICE is a terrorist organization and Trump, I’ll vote for Trump.
Okay, so you won't vote for Hillary because of what she said about ICE. Yet you would however vote for Trump even though he labeled the Mexican people drug dealers, rapists, and criminals. You would vote for a man who continually lies, has little to no scruples, appoints people completely lacking the qualifications of the high positions he gives them, refuses to follow proper etiquette before other world leaders, and who only knows that PR is an island surrounded by "big water".
Well ICE has only been around since 2003, as part of Americas recoil from 9-11, and now that the current Administration is using the department to rip children away from their families, throwing babies into cages and sending the adults back to the killing fields of Central & South America , sure some folk are saying America can do better than ICE's current polices & methods.
Folk know the borders still need guarding they're just disgusted by the current methods ICE is being forced to employ.
Personally I'm not all that into the "Abolish ICE" tag line but their concerns do make more sense to me than that bat shit crazy Coulter's call to "Disband the FBI" .
Now that is truly a stupid rallying cry and some sick UN-American shat!
ICE was the replacement for INS, so it was not invented out of some 9/11 hysteria. And the only parents who had their kids taken away from them were ones who crossed illegally. The mother of the crying baby on Times cover didn't even have her kid taken away. She voluntarily abandoned her other kids and her husband to seek a higher paying job- not leaving behind any killing fields.
The left wants to mock and disband ICE but has the nerve to turn around and accuse the GOP of attack law enforcement, even when high ranking agents are caught in lies and unprofessional behavior.
Because Trump decided to use them for his own political purposes.
Amaya, who served as ICE's deputy chief of staff from May 2015 to January 20, 2017, said veteran ICE agents feel the Trump administration is "using the agency as a pawn" to drive an anti-immigration agenda.
"That's part of the frustration the agency feels. These men and women are going to do their job as part of the White House, but their frustration comes from the fact that ICE has become a political punching bag," Amaya told Newsweek.
The Trump administration is "using the agency as a pawn in their greater chess game," Amaya, a Democrat, said. "Because look who's in the White House. It's a certain attitude, it's a certain mindset that comes from the White House that's the message they're trying to send."
Officials of the agency insist that their nonpolitical mandate hasn’t changed. But Homan has praised the Trump administration for taking “the handcuffs off law enforcement.” Whatever their intention, ICE agents are being used by the president to send a message of callousness. And they are tying themselves to Trump’s political fortunes in the process.
LA Times exposes Obama deportation deceiving statistics
“High deportation figures are misleading
But the portrait of a steadily increasing number of deportations rests on statistics that conceal almost as much as they disclose. A closer examination shows that immigrants living illegally in most of the continental U.S. are less likely to be deported today than before Obama came to office, according to immigration data.
Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009.
On the other side of the ledger, the number of people deported at or near the border has gone up — primarily as a result of changing who gets counted in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency's deportation statistics.
The vast majority of those border crossers would not have been treated as formal deportations under most previous administrations. If all removals were tallied, the total sent back to Mexico each year would have been far higher under those previous administrations than it is now.
In the Obama years, all of the increase in deportations has involved people picked up within 100 miles of the border, most of whom have just recently crossed over. In 2013, almost two-thirds of deportations were in that category.”
Here's a very interesting admission by ICE to Congress......Trump's immoral and illegal family separation policy dramatically increases the likelihood that the children will permanently remain in the US and hold a grudge for being kidnapped from their family.
Albence, speaking on behalf of ICE, said many parents choose to accept deportation from the U.S. without their children because the children stand a much higher chance of gaining asylum status and staying in the U.S. permanently.
"So if you were a parent living in a bad spot and you could get your child into the United States, chances are they stay here?" asked Sen. Lindsey Graham, R.-S.C.
Albence said yes, because only about 1.5 to 2 percent of children who enter without parents are ever returned to their home countries.
A little overboard, but still a useful satire.
John loves anyone who hates this country
I love the "Isis" meme. Wolf nailed it.
It was a great play on words and sadly very believable. This is what our country has become.......
not going away.
in fact, we should give them more money and resources
cheers
ICE should be done away with; and replaced with the US military whose job is to protect the US from threats both foreign and domestic.
Instead of Trump's wall- build a virtual wall made up of motion, heat, sound, and vibration sensors (for the tunnelers). Have drones patrolling the border 24/7. Put as many military bases on the borders (that includes the one to the north) as needed to have troops ready to respond to incursions.
Then stop paying other countries to handle our port security. Turn that over to the military as well. See if the drug cartels, coyotes, and sex traffickers like facing the US military- instead of the underfunded, always attacked by the left, ICE.
, we need to keep ice to work the interior. the military can not police our streets in any manner.
but the military on the border? sounds like a plan
cheers
The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 prohibits the use of U.S. military forces to perform the tasks of civilian law enforcement such as arrest, apprehension, interrogation, and detention unless explicitly authorized by Congress.
Liberals put their lunacy on display so everyone knows exactly what they think and then will be flabbergasted when Trump is re-elected. I didn’t vote for Trump or Hillary because both fall well below my minimum standards. But, honestly, if I have to pick between an idiot who thinks ICE is a terrorist organization and Trump, I’ll vote for Trump.
Okay, so you won't vote for Hillary because of what she said about ICE. Yet you would however vote for Trump even though he labeled the Mexican people drug dealers, rapists, and criminals. You would vote for a man who continually lies, has little to no scruples, appoints people completely lacking the qualifications of the high positions he gives them, refuses to follow proper etiquette before other world leaders, and who only knows that PR is an island surrounded by "big water".
Well ICE has only been around since 2003, as part of Americas recoil from 9-11, and now that the current Administration is using the department to rip children away from their families, throwing babies into cages and sending the adults back to the killing fields of Central & South America , sure some folk are saying America can do better than ICE's current polices & methods.
Folk know the borders still need guarding they're just disgusted by the current methods ICE is being forced to employ.
Personally I'm not all that into the "Abolish ICE" tag line but their concerns do make more sense to me than that bat shit crazy Coulter's call to "Disband the FBI" .
Now that is truly a stupid rallying cry and some sick UN-American shat!
Abolish ICE? Ann Coulter Wants To Disband The FBI
Abolish the FBI, America’s KGB
by Jacob G. Hornberger
April 18, 2018
Coulter: 'It's time to disband the FBI
ICE was the replacement for INS, so it was not invented out of some 9/11 hysteria. And the only parents who had their kids taken away from them were ones who crossed illegally. The mother of the crying baby on Times cover didn't even have her kid taken away. She voluntarily abandoned her other kids and her husband to seek a higher paying job- not leaving behind any killing fields.
The DOJ, FBI, IRS, and ATF are the govt equivalent of mafia enforcers for totalitarian government and should severely reduced if not eliminated
their function is to intimidate and control the citizenry
The left wants to mock and disband ICE but has the nerve to turn around and accuse the GOP of attack law enforcement, even when high ranking agents are caught in lies and unprofessional behavior.
"I.C.E. was great for Obama (over 2.4 million deportations from this country while in office).
Why aren't they Great for Trump ?
Because Trump decided to use them for his own political purposes.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ice-has-become-trumps-personal-bullying-squad/2018/04/23/5197541e-472d-11e8-8b5a-3b1697adcc2a_story.html?utm_term=.4574cd3d7493
Political Purposes ?
And here I thought it was ALL part of our laws.
I suppose Obama just did the exact same thing out of the kindness of his heart ?
You asked why Trump was different and I showed you.
Obama didn't do what Trump is doing, red herring.
Reporting was lacking back then.
That's total bs, gop tried and tried to find something and could not. Fox could only find made up shit and that fell flat every time.
The GOP ISN"T the MSLM !
FOX is only ONE News Outlet.
MSLM loved them some good reporting on Obama. Stayed away from much of the bad parts !
See the difference ?
Funny how that fact was never used by Obama haters while he was doing it, it was just constant lies about him being soft on illegal immigration.
The "Left" and "I" loved it....NOW the "Left" DOESN'T.
I still do.
Because it’s a lie
LA Times exposes Obama deportation deceiving statistics
“High deportation figures are misleading
But the portrait of a steadily increasing number of deportations rests on statistics that conceal almost as much as they disclose. A closer examination shows that immigrants living illegally in most of the continental U.S. are less likely to be deported today than before Obama came to office, according to immigration data.
Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009.
On the other side of the ledger, the number of people deported at or near the border has gone up — primarily as a result of changing who gets counted in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency's deportation statistics.
The vast majority of those border crossers would not have been treated as formal deportations under most previous administrations. If all removals were tallied, the total sent back to Mexico each year would have been far higher under those previous administrations than it is now.
In the Obama years, all of the increase in deportations has involved people picked up within 100 miles of the border, most of whom have just recently crossed over. In 2013, almost two-thirds of deportations were in that category.”
Here's a very interesting admission by ICE to Congress......Trump's immoral and illegal family separation policy dramatically increases the likelihood that the children will permanently remain in the US and hold a grudge for being kidnapped from their family.