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Twitter Rains Hell on Jeff Sessions' New Religios Liberty Task Force

  

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Via:  tessylo  •  8 years ago  •  72 comments

Twitter Rains Hell on Jeff Sessions' New Religios Liberty Task Force

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Paula Bartholomew
Professor Quiet
2  Paula Bartholomew    8 years ago

U.S. Justice Department is launching a “ religious  liberty task force

So much for the separation of church and state.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
2.2  livefreeordie  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2    8 years ago

Removed  This has ZERO to do with establishing a state religion. It’s about protecting first amendment rights which the left despises for everyone but themselves

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
2.2.1  livefreeordie  replied to  livefreeordie @2.2    8 years ago

Badfish, Why don’t you explain yourself for these so-called “sweeping generalizations”

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
2.2.3  Skrekk  replied to  livefreeordie @2.2    8 years ago
It’s about protecting first amendment rights

You mean like the imaginary "right" to use superstition as an excuse to violate public accommodation laws, or the "right" of state-funded adoption agencies to use public money while denying adoptions to the people their superstitions tell them to hate?    Or are you referring to the "right" of superstitious pharmacists to deny service to women and transgender folks?

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
2.2.4  epistte  replied to  livefreeordie @2.2    8 years ago
This has ZERO to do with establishing a state religion. It’s about protecting first amendment rights which the left despises for everyone but themselves

What religious right of yours or anyone else's has ever been threatened by us progressive lefties?

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
2.2.5  epistte  replied to  livefreeordie @2.2    8 years ago

Bueller................Bueller...................Bueller....................?

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
2.2.6  cjcold  replied to  livefreeordie @2.2.1    8 years ago

We just don't like you. 

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
2.2.7  cjcold  replied to  livefreeordie @2.2    8 years ago

It's not just left/right. Many of us kind of hang out somewhere in the middle.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4  JBB    8 years ago

The gop's "Religious Freedumb" campaign is an attempt to re-institute a comprehensive form of Jim Crow...

"I don't believe like you do so I will not transport you or your kind in my ambulance". Remember Jim Crow?

If we open the door to legal discrimination based on belief there is no end to it. See The Handmaiden's Tale.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
4.1  cjcold  replied to  JBB @4    8 years ago

Used to work as a paramedic and never made a distinction. You needed my help and you got it.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
6  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו    8 years ago

Under the tissue paper thin guise of protecting "religious freedom" these fanatics hope to worm their perversion of "christianity" into a state sponsored cult.  There really is nothing about our Constitution that they aren't prepared to destroy nibble by nibble then chunk by chunk until they achieve the "christian" version of Iran.  

"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."  -- author unknown (but prescient).

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.2  JBB  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @6    8 years ago
author unknown

The quote is from Sinclair Lewis and yes it is quite apropos regarding the here and now.  

Harry Sinclair Lewis (February 7, 1885 – January 10, 1951) was an American novelist , short-story writer, and playwright . In 1930, he became the first writer from the United States to receive the Nobel Prize in Literature , which was awarded "for his vigorous and graphic art of description and his ability to create, with wit and humor, new types of characters." His works are known for their insightful and critical views of American capitalism and materialism between the wars. [1] He is also respected for his strong characterizations of modern working women. H. L. Mencken wrote of him, "[If] there was ever a novelist among us with an authentic call to the trade ... it is this red-haired tornado from the Minnesota wilds." [2] He has been honored by the U.S. Postal Service with a postage stamp in the Great Americans series .

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
6.2.1  livefreeordie  replied to  JBB @6.2    8 years ago

Lewis was a lover of communism

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Guide
6.2.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  livefreeordie @6.2.1    8 years ago

LFOD,

He was not. He really wasn't political at all, but if he was anything he was a socialist and those are two different things.

By 1909 he was at Carmel with his classmate William Rose Benét, another professional bookman. Lewis worked on the San Francisco  Bulletin , and wrote. When Jack London had come to Yale to speak for socialism, Lewis had met him. Although Lewis was to be, briefly, a card-carrying socialist, he was never much interested in politics, but he very much admired the great Redskin writer, and he got to know him at Carmel.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
6.2.4  livefreeordie  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.2.2    8 years ago

Marx defined socialism as the transition between capitalism and communism

Marx on Socialism as the initial or first step to Communism (Critique of the Gotha Programme)

Marx continued:  

"Between capitalist and communist society lies the period of the revolutionary transformation of the one into the other. Corresponding to this is also a political transition period in which the state can be nothing but the revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat.

Marx not only most scrupulously takes account of the inevitable inequality of men, but he also takes into account the fact that the mere conversion of the means of production into the common property of the whole society (commonly called “socialism”) does not remove the defects of distribution and the inequality of "bourgeois laws" which continues to prevail so long as products are divided "according to the amount of labor performed". Continuing, Marx says:

"But these defects are inevitable in the first phase of communist society as it is when it has just emerged, after prolonged birth pangs, from capitalist society. Law can never be higher than the economic structure of society and its cultural development conditioned thereby."

And so, in the first phase of communist society (usually called socialism) "bourgeois law" is not abolished in its entirety, but only in part, only in proportion to the economic revolution so far attained, i.e., only in respect of the means of production. "Bourgeois law" recognizes them as the private property of individuals. Socialism converts them into common property. To that extent--and to that extent alone--"bourgeois law" disappears.

However, it persists as far as its other part is concerned; it persists in the capacity of regulator (determining factor) in the distribution of products and the allotment of labor among the members of society. The socialist principle, "He who does not work shall not eat", is already realized; the other socialist principle, "An equal amount of products for an equal amount of labor", is also already realized. But this is not yet communism, and it does not yet abolish "bourgeois law", which gives unequal individuals, in return for unequal (really unequal) amounts of labor, equal amounts of products.

This is a “defect”, says Marx, but it is unavoidable in the first phase of communism; for if we are not to indulge in utopianism, we must not think that having overthrown capitalism people will at once learn to work for society without any rules of law. Besides, the abolition of capitalism does not immediately create the economic prerequisites for such a change.

 
 

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