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Overflow - When five seeds just aren't enough

  

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By:  bob-nelson  •  8 years ago  •  56 comments

Overflow - When five seeds just aren't enough

Overflow3.png 25 August 2018

1) Joe Arpaio’s last stand - Vox

2) The Tax-Cut Con Goes On - NYT

3) Goodwin Sentenced to 8 Years, Ramos Gets 6 Years in Harris Attack - NBC News

4) The only way to end the class divide: the case for abolishing private schools - The Guardian

5) Woman flies fighter plane through Japan air force's glass ceiling - The Guardian

6) Fact check: Trump overstates the cost of a Camaro in China - It does not cost $119,000 - Autoblog


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Bob Nelson
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1  author  Bob Nelson    8 years ago

Joe Arpaio’s last stand -The former Maricopa County sheriff is about to lose a race as Arizona shows signs of turning blue.

arpaio.png Joe Arpaio is going down , standing by Donald Trump.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio at a rally with then-Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump in Marshalltown, Iowa, on January 26, 2016.
Scott Olson/Getty Images

The infamous former Maricopa County sheriff is likely making his last stand for a spot in public life by running in the Republican Senate primary. He’s reminding voters of his close ties to the president and his own Trumpian record on immigration and crime that dates back well before the president ever ran for office.

“All I can say is I’ve had a relationship with the president from day one,” Arpaio said to a crowd of local Republicans, including some of his most ardent supporters. The stop was one of several on a relatively muted “ICE tour” that his campaign is doing this week.

Prior to entering the race, Arpaio was mired in a longstanding criminal court case. In 2011, a federal judge issued an injunction ordering him to stop racially profiling Latino drivers as part of his efforts to apprehend unauthorized immigrants. He continued to do so, however, and was ultimately convicted of criminal contempt of court. Trump, who became his personal friend and political ally, went on to pardon him last year, though the president has stopped short of endorsing Arpaio in the race.

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Bob Nelson
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2  author  Bob Nelson    8 years ago

The Tax-Cut Con Goes On - Why Social Security and Medicare are on the ballot.

merlin_142362870_6ed87a044a8d42d88e020482088c3e83jumbo1.jpg What will happen if the blue wave in the midterm elections falls short? Clearly, at this point it still might: Democrats will surely receive more votes than Republicans, but thanks to gerrymandering and population geography, the U.S. electoral system gives excess weight to rural, white voters who still have faith in President Trump. What if, thanks to that excess weight, the minority prevails?

One answer, obviously, is that the unindicted co-conspirator in chief will continue to be protected from the law. And for those concerned with the survival of American democracy, that has to be the most important issue at stake in November. But if the G.O.P. hangs on, there will also be other, bread-and-butter consequences for ordinary Americans.

First of all, there is every reason to believe that a Republican Congress, freed from the immediate threat of elections, would do what it narrowly failed to do last year, and repeal the Affordable Care Act. This would cause tens of millions of Americans to lose health insurance and would in particular hit those with pre-existing conditions. There’s a reason health care, not Trump, is the central theme of Democratic campaigns this year.

But the attack on the social safety net probably wouldn’t stop with a rollback of Obama-era expansion: Longstanding programs, very much including Social Security and Medicare, would also be on the chopping block. Who says so? Republicans themselves.

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Bob Nelson
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2.1  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Bob Nelson @2    8 years ago

People in Trump's base are typically the greatest beneficiaries of "entitlements": Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid...

They will suffer the most... but I'm sure they will continue to applaud.....

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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2.2  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Bob Nelson @2    8 years ago
In a recent interview with CNBC’s John Harwood , Representative Steve Stivers, the chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee — in effect, the man charged with containing the blue wave — declared that, given the size of the budget deficit, the federal government needs to save money by cutting spending on social programs. When pressed about whether that included Social Security and Medicare, he admitted that it did.
 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3  author  Bob Nelson    8 years ago

Goodwin Sentenced to 8 Years, Ramos Gets 6 Years in Harris Attack

15439599_G1.jpg CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. (WVIR) - Two men convicted in the violent beating of DeAndre Shakur Harris have received their prison sentences from a judge in Charlottesville Circuit Court.

In May, juries in separate trials found Jacob Scott Goodwin and Alex Michael Ramos both guilty of malicious wounding.

Goodwin had claimed he was defending himself against Harris in the Market Street Parking Garage on August 12, 2017. Video footage from last year's Unite the Right rally showed the Arkansas man dressed in militia-style gear.

15315974_G1.jpg Ramos' counsel had admitted he took a "cheap shot" at Harris during the same incident, and asked jurors to consider a lesser charge against the Georgia man.

Thursday, August 23, a judge sentenced Goodwin to a total of ten years, but two were suspended. He must also have 20 years of good behavior and serve probation.

The same judge later handed down a prison term of six years to Ramos, as well as three years of post-release supervision.

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Bob Nelson
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3.1  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Bob Nelson @3    8 years ago

More Antifa violence!

oh wait......

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4  author  Bob Nelson    8 years ago

The only way to end the class divide: the case for abolishing private schools

school.png The continuing gap between state and private education is reinforcing privilege and harming the prospects of another generation. The only solution is integration.

Unlikely as it might sound, one of the most electric political meetings I have ever attended was a lecture on the Finnish educational system given by Pasi Sahlberg, the Finnish educator and author, in London in the spring of 2012. Sahlberg, who was speaking to a packed committee room 14 of the House of Commons – the most magnificent of a run of grand meeting rooms that directly overlook the Thames – has a rather laconic manner of delivery. However, in this particular instance, his flat speaking style proved the perfect vehicle for an unexpectedly radical message.

Sahlberg described how Finnish education had evolved, in the postwar period, from a steeply hierarchical one, rather like our own, made up of private, selective and less-well regarded “local” schools, to become a system in which every child attends the “common school”. The long march to educational reform was partly initiated to strengthen the Finnish nation after the second world war, and to defend it against Russian incursions in particular.

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Bob Nelson
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4.1  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Bob Nelson @4    8 years ago

Long form, on a topic that is ultra-duh.

The wealthy send their kids to private school, so they are motivated to have the government subsidize private schools.

The wealthy do not send their kids to public schools, so they are not at all in favot of government spending on public schools.

The wealthy decide what the government does.

Duh...

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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4.1.1  Jack_TX  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1    8 years ago

By "ultra-duh"...am I to understand that you actually favor outlawing private schools, or merely that you don't see that ever happening because the people in power have a vested interest?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.2  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Jack_TX @4.1.1    8 years ago

I'm favorable.

It was done in Finland.

The wealthy control America.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1.2    8 years ago

Yeah that’s why over 90% ( and rising) of kids in the US go to public schools right?

Honestly, sometimes I wonder who you think you’re fooling Bob.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.5  Sparty On  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1.4    8 years ago

Bob and I are fast friends.     I never stopped calling them “French” fries so i’m pretty sure we are good on that alone.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.6  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.3    8 years ago
The wealthy do not send their kids to public schools, so they are not at all in favor of government spending on public schools.

What part of the words "The wealthy" do you not understand?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.7  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.5    8 years ago
Bob and I are fast friends.

No.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.8  Sparty On  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1.6    8 years ago

What part of “90%” don’t you understand?

Thats said,  I know you hate freedom of school choice.    Preferring to rather forced people to “your” choice.     Thank God we don’t have that system here.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.9  Sparty On  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1.7    8 years ago

awww .... now my last feeling for you is hurt Bob ......

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.10  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.8    8 years ago

The wealthiest country in the world gets crappy results from its education system. I think that is not acceptable.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.11  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.9    8 years ago
awww .... now my last feeling for you is hurt Bob ......

After all your efforts to be nice!

Really not fair, hmmm?

   talk to the hand

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Silent
4.1.12  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1    8 years ago

Duh abolish the failed public school system and keep the better thriving successful private school system. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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4.1.13  Jack_TX  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1.2    8 years ago
I'm favorable.

Out of curiosity, are there ANY rights you're not willing to take away in your quest for "equality"?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.14  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Jack_TX @4.1.13    8 years ago

Is there a "right to private school education"? I've never heard of it...

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.16  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.1.12    8 years ago

By "thriving", do you mean "making lots of money for the shareholders"?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.17  author  Bob Nelson  replied to    8 years ago
If you pay for it then you have the right to go.

I've never heard of that right, either.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.20  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1.19    8 years ago
The public school system has been relegated to teaching to the lowest common denominator in the quest for inclusiveness and equality for all.

No.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.21  Sparty On  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1.11    8 years ago

So when people have a differing opinion than you do, you consider that “not nice?”

Hhhmmmmmm ....

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Silent
4.1.22  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1.16    8 years ago

Thriving meaning doing well offering a great service at a good price. That's why the wealthy are choosing the better of the two choices. One is a failure the other is successful and the wealthy are smart enough to know which one is the failure. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.23  Sparty On  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1.10    8 years ago

There are many reasons for under performing schools in the US.    The least of which of which IS NOT the NEA and public school systems.    They are a  big part of  the problem.

Yeah, no good reason for that I agree.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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4.1.24  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1    8 years ago
The wealthy do not send their kids to public schools, so they are not at all in favot of government spending on public schools.

i'm enjoying the hell out of reading the 'wingers extol the quality of a private education when their barely literate moron and totally ignorant (not to mention pathological liar) "president" is a product of that high-priced private education system--apart from 2 years at Wharton, which is a public institution  but supposed to be an "elite" school of economics (where he obviously learned absolutely nothing). 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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4.1.26  Jack_TX  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1.14    8 years ago
Is there a "right to private school education"? I've never heard of it...

I'm not surprised.

Yes.  There is a right to a private school education.  Americans have the right to assemble.  That's not limited to batshit crazy protests.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.1.27  Greg Jones  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1.10    8 years ago

That's because almost all the administrators and teachers are liberals. But they will claim the bad results on lack of funding.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.28  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.21    8 years ago
So when people have a differing opinion than you do, you consider that “not nice?”

Not necessarily.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.29  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.1.22    8 years ago

Unicorns are nice, too.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.30  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.23    8 years ago

Do you have any basis for your opinion?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.31  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Jack_TX @4.1.26    8 years ago
right to assemble...

... is the same as right to a private school...??

Seriously?  close call

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.32  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Greg Jones @4.1.27    8 years ago

Isn't it wonderful that the world is so simple?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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4.1.33  Jack_TX  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1.31    8 years ago
... is the same as right to a private school...?? Seriously?

Yes.

They have the right to assemble.  Notice there is no "why" qualifier on that.  That's not a "right to assemble unless you're teaching algebra".   

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.34  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Jack_TX @4.1.33    8 years ago

... whatever... thinking

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.35  Sparty On  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1.30    8 years ago

Yes

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.36  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.35    8 years ago

Would you share it, please?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.37  Sparty On  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1.36    8 years ago

Numerous reasons but the biggest is the NEA is against choice.    They are against vouchers.   That's enough reason right there.  

I like freedom of choice and not oppression

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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5  author  Bob Nelson    8 years ago

Woman flies fighter plane through Japan air force's glass ceiling

mat.png Misa Matsushima had dreamed of taking to the skies ever since she watched Top Gun as a young girl. On Friday the 26-year-old realised her dream and struck a blow for Japan’s women when she started duty as the country’s first female fighter pilot.

First Lieutenant Misa Matsushima of the Japan Air Self Defence Force.
Jiji Press/AFP/Getty Images

Matsushima, who holds the rank of first lieutenant in the air self-defence force, completed her training this week, just three years after Japan lifted its ban on women becoming fighter pilots.

“I have admired fighter jet pilots ever since I saw Top Gun when I was in primary school,” she told reporters on the eve of starting her new role. “I want to continue to work hard to carry out my duties, not just for myself but also for women who want to follow this path in the future.”

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Greg Jones
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5.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Bob Nelson @5    8 years ago

Women from many countries have been flying fighters for years now...they've even gone to space!

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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6  author  Bob Nelson    8 years ago

Fact check: Trump overstates the cost of a Camaro in China - It does not cost $119,000

cam.png On a day when two former members of his inner circle were being convicted and pleading guilty in federal court, President Trump was ignoring all that unpleasantness and political peril and doing what he likes to do best: talking directly to his supporters. At a rally Tuesday in West Virginia, Trump told the crowd at least one piece of "news" that actually is fake. Buyers of a Chevy Camaro in China, he said, must pay $119,000 because of China's tariffs on American cars. He's right that there are tariffs that sharply drive up the cost, but he's inflated the actual price by double.

Bloomberg does the actual math : There's only one Camaro model available in China, with a 2.0-liter turbo, according to GM . It sells for the equivalent of $58,430 in China. A similarly equipped Camaro in the States has a starting price of $25,905. That's a pretty vivid example, even if he stuck to the facts, of what tariffs can do to car prices — and is a foreshadowing of the kinds of price increases Americans could face if the U.S. were to implement auto tariffs Trump has threatened.

Trump is not wrong, in a general way, when he said in the West Virginia speech, "When we make a car, we sell it into China and there's a 25 percent tariff and that's just the beginning. It's all taxes and taxes and taxes. We can't do that anymore."

That said, he does not mention that some of those Chinese auto tariffs were erected in retaliation for $34 billion in tariffs on Chinese goods that he implemented in early July.

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Bob Nelson
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6.1  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Bob Nelson @6    8 years ago

Holy fuck!

Trump's stupid trade war... Trump's ignorance about trade... are even being blasted in car mags, about the lowest of low-brow journalism!

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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6.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Bob Nelson @6    8 years ago

"Overstates" = lies his stinking ass off

 
 
 
lennylynx
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7  lennylynx    8 years ago

You can have my 5 seeds Bob...

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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7.1  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  lennylynx @7    8 years ago

That's very kind... but it doesn't work that way... and for good reason.

While everyone agrees that my seeds are systematically of the highest quality  confused , that isn't true of all members. The limit at five is a good thing.

My problem is that on days when I have more than five items I'd like to share, I put them in an "on hold" folder... and then at the end of the week, I delete the stuff that others have seeded, or that the flow of news has bypassed.

But sometimes... even after using the weed-whacker... the "on hold" folder still has too much stuff! Then I do an "Overflow" article. It's a compromise, with all the dissatisfaction of any compromise...   Disappointment

 
 
 
Sparty On
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7.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Bob Nelson @7.1    8 years ago
While everyone agrees that my seeds are systematically of the highest quality  confused , that isn't true of all members

Well, they certainly are of a very “biased” quality that’s for sure.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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9  Greg Jones    8 years ago

Your seeds have failed to sprout much comment! LOL

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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9.1  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  Greg Jones @9    8 years ago

I don't care about Comments. I seed stuff I find interesting. I share it.

If people want to talk about it, that's fine. But not significant.

 
 

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