The father of a high school student killed in the Parkland, Fla., gun massacre approached Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh at Tuesday’s confirmation hearing in Washington, D.C., his hand outstretched.
White House counsel Don McGahn, second from right, watches as Fred Guttenberg, left, attempts to shake hands with President Donald Trump’s Supreme Court nominee, Brett Kavanaugh, on Tuesday, Sept. 4, 2018. (Photo: Andrew Harnik/AP)
Fred Guttenberg introduced himself as the father of Jaime Guttenberg, who was a 14-year-old student at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School when she was killed on Feb. 14.
Kavanaugh, who was caught off guard as he headed for a break in his testimony, turned and was led away without shaking the other man’s hand.
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Shortly after the curt exchange, Guttenberg recounted the event in a tweet that within a few hours had 50,000 likes and 29,000 retweets.
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While debate over Kavanaugh’s confirmation has been focused on his views on abortion and on the president’s immunity from criminal charges, the judge’s views on guns have also come under scrutiny.
A strong Second Amendment advocate, Kavanaugh has said he would overturn laws in Washington, D.C., such as the ban on semiautomatic firearms . The gunman in the shooting, which killed 17 and wounded 14, used an AR-15 assault rifle.
Like many conservative groups, the National Rifle Association has given its backing to Kavanaugh.
This is a ridiculous story. First the left acts like uncages wild animals where they have to be dragged from the courtroom and then some guy Kavanaugh may not even recognize wants to pop up and make bodily contact with him?? You can't have it both ways, liberals.
Not so; the man identified himself and extended his hand in a gesture that is universally recognized as an expression of accord; I posted the video and will do so again if the misrepresentations continue.
The man’s daughter was murdered in the Parkland shootings; have a modicum of compassion for a grieving father trying to find some hope that no similar tragedies will befall other fathers. Show as much reverence for human life and compassion as you do for gun ownership!
The guy was out of place, and his outstretched hand might have contained a knife. Glad to see security was doing their job. I previously had voluntarily said I might not comment on this seeder's threads, but I have changed my mind...if that's OK
It's also universally recognized to meet with somebody you are about to vote on- especially if you think the candidate isn't being transparent. Where was the civility from the Dems who refuses to meet with Kavanaugh?
Is there no limit to what the "Trumpian mind" will concoct in order to try and validate an inane, biased premise?
Yea, because I am sure security would just allow someone to get in there carrying a weapon. /sarc
"This is a ridiculous story."
Too true. This was staged. At least this guy is a real crisis actor now.
I have watched the clip several times, from 2 different angles.. it was an awkward moment and an inopportune time to try and introduce oneself. Should Kavanaugh have stopped, shook the man's hand and conducted a conversation with him after he had just spent his day on the controversial hot seat .. perhaps, yet if it had not been a Parkland father - no one would have expected Kavanaugh to do so …
If one does not like Kavanaugh's Second Amendment rights stand .. so be it. But to act like he snubbed this guy intentionally because of being a 'Parkland parent' … is a wee bit of disingenuous outrage....
Finally someone got back to the topic at hand......SMH. Anyway, like you said, it depends on the angle and not having sound to go along with the video, one needs to pay attention to the security guys and their motions at the time. Seems a "whoa" could have been uttered at the time as they may have had no idea who this guy was and I agree with one of the previous posts, with the bullshlt going on at the beginning, why would the judge stop and talk to someone he didn't know. And as you say, after what he was going through, I would want to go pee and have a smoke too.
There were people everywhere .. I did see a clip last night with sound, but all that could really be heard was random voice and people milling around - from the video it is easy to tell that Kavanaugh was a bit distracted, if not some what disoriented .. people were all around him .. it was a sea of suits..
This is interesting Jim..
Here is the video from 2 angles, but there is a 3rd that I have seen, but cannot find at the moment … I did not see the angle that showed Guttenberg swiping his hand on Kavanaugh's jacket.. that appears to be what Kavanaugh's bewildered look is about - I never saw Kavanaugh extend his hand to be able to pull it back did you?
Then what is this?
Yes, read my post 3.2.2 … it is the middle paragraph ……….. did you seriously send a response to my post without actually reading what I copy/pasted? and then rebut me without reading the same post? …….. Guess there is no need to ask if you read the link provided....
Carry on.. and have a good evening
No...............probably because it didn't happen..........
This is the copy/paste I provided from the link - please explain to me where I did not include the "quote" perhaps even blatant lie from Guttenberg regarding Judge Kavanaugh's supposedly "pulled back his hand" - if you read the third paragraph in context Guttenberg is even going as far as to say that Kavanaugh "pulled" his hand back when he [Guttenberg] said his daughter was "murdered in Parkland"
Do not IM me again - you have an issue with me posting on your threads, take it up with a moderator - Thank you!
Many left-wing sites ignore the fact that Fred Guttenberg was invited by Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) to Monday's Kavanaugh hearing. He is a left-wing political activist (read his anti-gun comments) and seems to partially deal with grief by selling T-shirts, ribbons, and hats online:
Here's Fred's Twitter page:
Funny how having your kid murdered will make you, "anti-gun". What next? You going to call him a "snowflake"? Pussy? Coward?
Until we send our kid off to school and they are murdered, I guess we cannot know what he has gone through. But I do know this, it cannot be pleasant, and while I do not follow with all of his views, I do understand why he has the views he has.
Running him into the ground because his daughter was murdered??? Not cool.
HIS DAUGHTER WAS MURDERED BY A LOSER WITH A GUN!
Does that give you an idea as to why he's an activist?
We have created a 501(C)(3) foundation called Orange Ribbons for Jaime. The purpose of our organization will be to support causes important to Jaime in life, but also causes that will deal with why her life was cut short. We will look to make donations in the world of dance, and to organizations that deal with bullying and children with special needs. However, we will also support organizations that deal with the causes of violence in schools and other public facilities and on how to limit casualties associated with the violence.
A little background behind the name Orange Ribbons. Jaime's favorite color was orange. Her dance studio friends who loved her very much decided to honor her memory by wearing orange ribbons. Because of Jaime's love of dance and the dance worlds love of Jaime, the orange ribbon spread through dance studios around the nation and the world and through Broadway. About 2 weeks after Jaime was murdered, we learned that orange also happens to be the universal color of the gun safety movement. With that, our hope is to make the Orange Ribbon the symbol of the gun safety movement. My hope is that all people who care about public safety from guns will help me to do this.
Thank you for all the love and support. Please help spread the word. May Jaime’s memory be a blessing.
The National Rifle Association's Political Victory Fund raised $2.4 million in donations in March , setting a 21st-century record for the group in the month after a gunman killed 17 students and educators at a high school in Parkland, Fla.
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WTF is wrong with Trumpian gun-lovers?
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What did Democrats and Obama do when they had the votes?
Now if he could just control the random sizes of his fonts.....
Seriously-- is that the best you can do?
((Based on what I've seen in the past, my guess is that yes-- it is!)
And if you could just move out of the neighborhood where complicated thoughts go to die ... and take your neighbor a few doors down along with you.
Take heart, there are places in America where the residents don’t tear off the covers of books and try to eat the pages.
Why don’t you tells us?
My bad in not explaining the font thing;
The different sizes and styles are to assist the willingly blind to see reality, not that I believe they’ll acknowledge it, rather, so that they can never legitimately say ... they hadn’t seen it!
Some people worry they could lose a child forever just by sending that child to school one morning; such a worry enters the minds of many parents in a nation with an ever-increasing chance that some asshole-loser-lunatic with a big firearm, might also be "attending" the same school as their child on that morning.
OTHER PEOPLE WORRY THAT AFTER SUCH A SHOOTING …
… they might lose their guns.
FUCK THEM!
Judges are threatened all the time. Could the stakes be higher than the Supreme Court? Multiple people had to be dragged out of that room because of their disrespectful and disruptive behavior. Many of them gave police quite a struggle. At some point in the morning, in response to this, it was decided Kavanaugh's children should be escorted from the room. At the end of the session, a security person was escorting Kavanaugh out for his safety. Under those circumstances, I probably wouldn't grab the hand of a person I didn't know either.
What kind of slime bag politicizes the death of his own kid?
-Fred Guttenberg