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Brett Kavanaugh and the Cruelty of Male Bonding

  

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Via:  johnrussell  •  8 years ago  •  48 comments

Brett Kavanaugh and the Cruelty of Male Bonding
When being one of the guys comes at a woman’s expense.

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IMO, this article makes a lot of sense. It's a little long, but if you read it all I believe you will understand what really happened between Kavanaugh and his accusers. Kavanaugh was being "one of the guys", as he understood it, and as existed in his beer soaked late teenage years. When I read about the woman Renate Dolphin, who is the Renate listed in Kavanaugh's yearbook entry "Renate Alumni", a lightbulb went on in my head. This was all about guys using girls for laughs. Kavanaugh may not be a rapist, he may just be a monumental jerk and liar.  About 15 boys put Renate's name in their yearbook with the implication that she was a trampy or desperate girl that was used as the butt of a male bonding exercise "Renate Alumni". Now, she and the "boys"(at the time) say "nothing happened". Renate wasn't a slut, the boys just wanted to joke about it as if she was.

As the article states, Kavanaugh may have been a virgin past all of the years that are in question, as he claims, but he still could have tried to rip a girls clothes off and stuck his dick into another girl's face, because he was drunk at the times and because he was trying to bond himself as "one of the guys" in the crowd he hung around with, because part of their schtick was humiliating women. Catholic boy guilt?  

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https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-allegations-yearbook-male-bonding.html

For what it’s worth, and absent evidence or allegations to the contrary, I believe Brett Kavanaugh’s claim that he was a virgin through his teens. I believe it in part because it squares with some of the oddities I’ve had a hard time understanding about his alleged behavior: namely, that both allegations are strikingly different from other high-profile stories the past year, most of which feature a man and a woman alone. And yet both the Kavanaugh accusations share certain features: There is no penetrative sex, there are always male onlookers, and, most importantly, there’s laughter . In each case the other men—not the woman—seem to be Kavanaugh’s true intended audience. In each story, the cruel and bizarre act the woman describes—restraining Christine Blasey Ford and attempting to remove her clothes in her allegation, and in Deborah Ramirez’s, putting his penis in front of her face—seems to have been done in the clumsy and even manic pursuit of male approval. Even Kavanaugh’s now-notorious yearbook page , with its references to the “100 kegs or bust” and the like, seems less like an honest reflection of a fun guy than a representation of a try-hard willing to say or do anything as long as his bros think he’s cool. In other words: The awful things Kavanaugh allegedly did only imperfectly correlate to the familiar frame of sexual desire run amok; they appear to more easily fit into a different category—a toxic homosociality—that involves males wooing other males  over the comedy of being cruel to women .




In both these accounts, Kavanaugh is laughing as he does something to a woman that disturbs or traumatizes her. Ford wrote in her letter to Sen. Dianne Feinstein, “Kavanaugh was on top of me while laughing with [Mark] Judge, who periodically jumped onto Kavanaugh. They both laughed as Kavanaugh tried to disrobe me in their highly inebriated state. With Kavanaugh’s hand over my mouth, I feared he may inadvertently kill me.”

“Brett was laughing,” Ramirez says in her account to the New Yorker . “I can still see his face, and his hips coming forward, like when you pull up your pants.” She recalled another male student shouting about the incident. “Somebody yelled down the hall, ‘Brett Kavanaugh just put his penis in Debbie’s face,’ ” she said.

If these allegations are true, one of the more shocking things about them is the extent to which the woman being mistreated exists in a room where the men are performing for each other—using the woman to firm up their own bond. The Kavanaugh yearbook is littered with dumb codes that seem to speak to exactly this tendency—stuff like “boofing” and “devil’s triangle” all suggest that what mattered to Kavanaugh was displaying club membership. The question is: At whose expense?








It goes without saying, I hope, that virgins are perfectly capable of doing everything Kavanaugh has so far been accused of. Offering a detail that personal was not only meant to be exculpatory in a specific sense; it was also deployed to counter an emerging image of Kavanaugh as a sleazy frat guy like his close friend and classmate Mark Judge. But he overshot the mark. If you’re going by his reactions in the Fox News interview, Kavanaugh’s wounded astonishment at the very existence of bad behavior would mean he couldn’t have known his good friend Mark Judge, who has written plenty about his own, very well at all. Kavanaugh’s strategy, in other words, was to present himself as all innocence : not just a virgin, but a virgin who’s never even heard of—let alone done!—some of the things he’s accused of. Everyone says so: “The women I knew in college and the men I knew in college said that it’s inconceivable that I could’ve done such a thing,” he said to Fox’s Martha MacCallum of Ramirez’s allegation.


This is an unwise thing to claim; first, because what people say you’re capable of isn’t actually proof of what you did or didn’t do, and second, because it happens to be untrue. One of Kavanaugh’s freshman year roommates, James Roche, expressed precisely the opposite view, saying he found Ramirez’s story credible and recalling that Kavanaugh “was a notably heavy drinker, even by the standards of the time, and that he became excessive and belligerent when he was very drunk.” Another unnamed former classmate in the New Yorker story also used the word belligerent in describing Kavanaugh when inebriated.


One thing we’ve learned about Kavanaugh, then, is that he perpetually overshoots. To put it bluntly, he lies. Rather than admit he was flawed, or made some mistakes he regrets, or simply acknowledge that different people might have seen him differently —as they demonstrably did—he’s doubling down on an unsustainable and untrue account of himself and his reputation. Under immense pressure and a bright spotlight, he claims that “the women I knew in college” and “the men I knew in college” (a large group!) will all vouch for him. This is injudicious. But it adds to an emerging profile of a man who will go to long lengths to get approval. It’s what Kavanaugh did when he accepted the nomination from Trump with a sycophantic speech that has in the months since he made it become a telling document of his exaggerated need to affirm the club he belongs to. He claimed he’d “witnessed firsthand” Trump’s “appreciation for the vital role of the American judiciary,” adding—in a burst of mendacious hyperbole—that “no president has ever consulted more widely or talked with more people from more backgrounds to seek input about a Supreme Court nomination.” And it’s what he did in that Fox interview: present himself as a friendly virgin who worked on school and service projects, and little else.








A man who runs on external approval runs into problems quickly. Kavanaugh’s strategy in the Fox interview was to portray himself as a public-spirited choirboy while sitting next to his kind-looking wife: He repeatedly and proudly referred to the high school friends who “produced overnight 65 women who knew me in high school.” He staked a lot on that letter, whose signatories attested that “he has behaved honorably and treated women with respect.”

Unfortunately for him, one of those much-invoked character witnesses—a woman named Renate Schroeder Dolphin, who offered her name in support of his—recently discovered how he, in turn, had used hers. The New York Times reported that Kavanaugh and a number of other graduates, including eight members of the football team, referred to themselves in the yearbook as “Renate Alumni.” The implication is obvious, and a poem from another guy’s page lays it out clearly: “You need a date/ and it’s getting late/ so don’t hesitate/ to call Renate.” When Kavanaugh included himself in this group in his yearbook page, I think we can all agree that he was neither a) “behaving honorably” as the letter attested, nor b) “treating women with dignity and respect,” as he repeatedly insisted in his Fox interview. This was not “being a good friend.” Much of what Kavanaugh said in that interview was disproved in the same day. This tells us something about how the man responds to incentives. Today, he needs to have been “a good friend” to women to be approved to the Supreme Court. Back then, he needed approval from his buddies, so he helped drag a girl’s name through the mud to get it. Today he needs to have been a virgin. Back then he needed to have slept with Renate. He’ll tell the truth as it needs to be, not as it is.




Many have wondered (purely as a matter of strategy) why Kavanaugh has issued such forceful denials. Most good lawyers would advise against locking oneself in quite so firmly. But one thing that might make a guy overconfident in his ability to bluff his way out is faith in the support of his in-group. It’s Omertà. If you deny wrongdoing as a united front, you’ll get away with it.

That’s where even this dumb yearbook entry thing becomes instructive: Kavanaugh was caught being cruel to a girl, and instead of owning up, he doubled down. It shows how boys who are cruel together lie together. This is why their denials are more emphatic than they need to be; each relies on the strength and intensity of the others. “Judge Kavanaugh and Ms. Dolphin attended one high school event together and shared a brief kiss good night following that event,” read a statement from Kavanaugh’s lawyer (she denies the kiss—I’ll take her word over his). “They had no other such encounter. The language from Judge Kavanaugh’s high school yearbook refers to the fact that he and Ms. Dolphin attended that one high school event together and nothing else.” Yeah, right. Four of the other players depicted in the “Renate alumni” photo issued a statement claiming that the phrase was “intended to allude to innocent dates or dance partners and were generally known within the community of people involved for over 35 years.” Before laughing at the absurdity of this, it’s worth reiterating that Renate did not know. One might then reasonably ask who the phrase “the community of people involved” includes.



How does the yearbook help us understand the other allegations against Kavanaugh? Well, for one thing, Kavanaugh’s admitted virginity shows how empty these rumors about Renate were. Whatever stories they circulated about her sexual behavior weren’t actually about her ; to them she was less a person than a token you claim to gain status with your bros. That tells us something valuable about how Kavanaugh was willing to treat women when other guys were around. It also offers a clear window into how male networks like Kavanaugh’s work. If you get caught, you deny, and if you can’t, you manufacture explanations that may sound ridiculous to an outside audience. But you never break. His yearbook buddies tried to shelter him because sheltering him sheltered them.

The fatal flaw in the Republicans’ accusations of “conspiracy” is that if you wanted to falsely accuse someone of sexual misconduct, you’d likely choose something damning and unambiguous. You probably wouldn’t include—as both allegations against Kavanaugh do—witnesses in the room who were his friends. You wouldn’t (in Ramirez’s case) admit to having been drinking. You’d have no memory gaps, express no doubts or confusion, and you’d probably claim to have been raped. Instead, the stories that have arisen so far can only really be corroborated by the perpetrator’s pals.




These male witnesses universally remember nothing. Now, it’s possible they don’t remember because it never happened. Maybe they were too drunk to recall. Or maybe they’re tapping into a long tradition of male in-group protection, partly to avoid being implicated themselves. Mark Judge remembers nothing so much that he’s gone into hiding—his first and only comment to the journalist who tracked him down was, “How did you find me?” The other men Ramirez says were in the room at Yale also have “zero recollection.” It could be there’s just nothing to remember, but there are other possibilities, like a mutually exonerating code of male secrecy. Brett Kavanaugh is on the record instructing his buds to keep Omertà after a 2001 boat trip to Annapolis, Maryland—even from their wives. “Reminders to everyone to be very, very vigilant w/r/t confidentiality on all issues and all fronts, including with spouses,” he wrote after apologizing for a variety of things, including “growing aggressive after blowing still another game of dice.” By this time he wasn’t in high school. He was in the White House.



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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    8 years ago

I have been ambivalent about believing Ford, but now that it has come out that she told a number of people about this incident since she "came out" to a therapist six years ago, it raises her credibility. Also, the detail of the hand over the mouth - it would cause the victim to remember exactly who did it, in my opinion. 

Ford has submitted statements to the committee from 4 people that she says she told her story to in recent years. 

 
 
 
cms5
Freshman Silent
1.2  cms5  replied to  JohnRussell @1    8 years ago
I have been ambivalent about believing Ford, but now that it has come out that she told a number of people about this incident since she "came out" to a therapist six years ago, it raises her credibility. Also, the detail of the hand over the mouth - it would cause the victim to remember exactly who did it, in my opinion. 

Can memories be trusted ? If I convey a memory from decades past to others, does that make the memory accurate and factual? No...we can and do alter our own memories.

She would gain significant credibility if she had mentioned the alleged assault to someone at the time of the occurrence. Wrote about it in a journal. Anything other than relying solely on a memory.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  cms5 @1.2    8 years ago

I can remember certain things from my past , that involved drinking or drugs at the time, pretty clearly. I won't go into detail because they would embarrass ME. But I remember some of them, and they were in the time frame of 35 years ago, or more. 

For example.  When I was in my early 20's I attended a bachelor party. As the "party" broke up a couple guys went for a ride. To a very rough part of town. To look for hookers. We found some. And we were all "drunk". I still remember it pretty well. 

I remember incidents that happened at Mardi Gras in New Orleans many years ago. And I was really drunk and high on pot and coke on those occasions. 

 
 
 
cms5
Freshman Silent
1.2.2  cms5  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.1    8 years ago

We all can remember things from decades ago...however, our minds are not computers storing events in our past with precise accuracy.

Read the links provided...*I even included a Huff article for the reading pleasure of...well, you know

ooops...seems both links go to the same article...sorry

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  cms5 @1.2.2    8 years ago

I don't think it's true that people cannot remember what happened long ago just because they were "drunk". 

Maybe she can't remember who said what or even what house it was in (if there were a lot of parties, she may not have even been familiar with the location before the incident) I've been to parties many years ago where I can remember something about what happened as far as funny incidents or something, but I couldnt remember the address of that house today if my life depended on it. 

I think if someone put their hand over a girls mouth and then tried to tear her clothes off , she COULD remember it 35 years later. 

She can't "prove" it because it is he said she said. 

 
 
 
cms5
Freshman Silent
1.2.5  cms5  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.3    8 years ago
I don't think it's true that people cannot remember what happened long ago just because they were "drunk". 

Where did drinking come into the equation?

Maybe she can't remember who said what or even what house it was in (if there were a lot of parties, she may not have even been familiar with the location before the incident) I've been to parties many years ago where I can remember something about what happened as far as funny incidents or something, but I couldnt remember the address of that house today if my life depended on it. 

Even in the recall of the 'funny incidents or something'...each time a memory is recalled, the brain has a tendency to stretch and ply the event. Non-hazy parts of our memories aren't 100% accurate.

I think if someone put their hand over a girls mouth and then tried to tear her clothes off , she COULD remember it 35 years later.

Something may have actually happened to her...but relying solely on memory...she may believe everything to be 100% true...just as those who were 'implanted' with false memories in memory experiments.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  cms5 @1.2.5    8 years ago

People say she can't remember because she was drunk, thats how drinking came into the equation. 

People remember some things from 35 years ago and other things they don't. I would think for that a 15 year old girl, having someone put their hand over her mouth and try to tear her clothes off , may be something she would be able to remember. 

 
 
 
cms5
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1.2.7  cms5  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.6    8 years ago

Some people do say that...and alcohol certainly doesn't help form accurate memories. We have enough trouble doing that without it!

Yes, people remember some things from 35+ years ago. I remember someone holding me and removing my bathing suit bottoms and tossing them further out into the bay. I do not remember their faces. I've tried. I was 16.

Now, if someone wrote a book about those times and all of the shenanigans that occurred...and I was able to look up a few names...would that help my memories enough for me to come up with those faces? Meh

 
 
 
Skrekk
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1.2.9  Skrekk  replied to  cms5 @1.2.2    8 years ago
We all can remember things from decades ago...however, our minds are not computers storing events in our past with precise accuracy.

If the victim can remember any details of the rape then you didn't put enough quaaludes in the punch.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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1.2.11  Skrekk  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.10    8 years ago

Sorry to hear that.    It must be tough to learn about something like that even if it was years later.     You didn't call it a rape but it obviously was.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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2  It Is ME    8 years ago

"I believe you will understand what really happened between Kavanaugh and his accusers. "

Really ?

So what Ford and the others "Think they remember".....REALLY DID HAPPEN ? jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  seeder  JohnRussell    8 years ago

Does anyone have a comment about the seeded article?  There are five other seeds here that are about whether or not Ford is telling the truth.  This article is about "the cruelty of male bonding" as it related to Brett Kavanaugh. 

 
 
 
cms5
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3.1  cms5  replied to  JohnRussell @3    8 years ago

Unfortunately, the 'male bonding' here relies heavily upon the comparative points of the accusations made.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4  Hal A. Lujah    8 years ago

The thought of this cretin remaining a virgin throughout high school is ridiculous.  I too went to a Jesuit high school.  It was full of rich, entitled white boys like Kavanaugh.  There were obvious cliques, and the most popular guy cliques weren't lying about getting laid, they were getting laid.  Hell, I was getting laid and I wasn't even wealthy or popular.  And drugs?  Puh-leeze.  Rich white kids with money use more drugs because they can afford to use more drugs.  The parties were outrageous drunk fests.  This guy is a flat out liar, and he's riding his wave of privilege and entitlement to the SC.  The holy rollers have no shame in paving his way, in their never ending shameless goal of outlawing abortion.  It would come as no surprise whatsoever to learn that Kav and his buddies were involved in numerous abortions as well.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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4.1  Skrekk  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    8 years ago

Something like 1400 Kavanaugh contemporaries who lived in the area and went to the same schools have now signed a letter saying exactly what you just said.

One aspect of this case which hasn't been discussed much are the class and privilege issues.   While it's not surprising that someone like Trump who grew up in privilege would nominate someone from the same clueless class, it's not good for the court or for the country.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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6  Colour Me Free    8 years ago

Thanks for the seed John .. does provide food for thought - I was in high school from '80 to '83 went back to graduate with my class in '84.

I believe there are elements of truth to the 'male bonding' thing (yet I never saw it as cruel) and trying to obtain adoration from one peers .. the jocks were more cliquish than the cheerleaders.... and their girlfriends were replaced quite easily.  I hated high school, but I did have a good time .. once one was able to escape the glamour girls and the rutting wanna be bulls : )

College, well I had to work to pay for it, so partying was not on the menu!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Colour Me Free @6    8 years ago

There is an interesting thing about all this that has gotten little notice in the media. Kavanaugh's friend Mark Judge became a writer. He is also by all accounts a very conservative Catholic, even now as a 50 year old. 

Judge appears to be wracked with guilt. He has gone into hiding since all this "Dr Ford" business came out. 

I think it was likely that there was a clique of boys who bragged about what they did to and with girls. How much was empty bragging and how much was real?

Judge is a key to that. 

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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6.1.1  Colour Me Free  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    8 years ago
Judge is a key to that. 

Perhaps he is .. yet that is speculative .. he may have gone to ground to stay out of the fray of the he said she said - Judge may be so full of shit his eyes float … one never knows

As far as gossip and claims of who did who and what to who .. cannot be considered in this matter - one night bartending a guy came in, said he went to high school with me and proceeded to tell stories about my actions - it was all fantasy, yet people in the bar believed him .. even though he had the years I was in school wrong - that did not matter to some....

The third accuser has come forward, claiming to be gang raped with Kavanaugh and Judge present - no claim they did anything.. yet they did not 'stop it either' .. I feel a slippery slope is being teetered upon

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Colour Me Free @6.1.1    8 years ago
The third accuser has come forward, claiming to be gang raped with Kavanaugh and Judge present - no claim they did anything.. yet they did not 'stop it either' .. I feel a slippery slope is being teetered upon

She has said that Kavanaugh was there among the group. Maybe any accusation that he raped her will still be forthcoming, or maybe she won't say he was one of the participants , that would matter more in a criminal trial than in this situation. 

Kavanaugh has been claiming that he was "an altar boy" in high school who did nothing but studying, playing sports, and going to church. This appears to be primed to blow up in his face. I think it is very unlikely you will see him on the Supreme Court. 

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Silent
6.1.3  Colour Me Free  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.2    8 years ago

I agree Kavanaugh claims of St Hood are more than a bit unrealistic, but I am not sure what he was suppose to do?  I am sure he does not see himself as a predator as some claim … most individuals that abuse alcohol do not necessarily see themselves as out of control … 

I cannot say I ever wanted him on the Supreme Court .. but it is sad that things have come down to this - Kavanaugh was nominated on July 9th .. no one came forward then - Ford wrote a letter asking for anonymity dated July 30th .. so I have to give her credit for at least kind of trying to do something...

Tomorrow should be informative ...

 
 
 
Skrekk
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6.1.4  Skrekk  replied to  Colour Me Free @6.1.3    8 years ago

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Colour Me Free
Senior Silent
6.1.5  Colour Me Free  replied to  Skrekk @6.1.4    8 years ago

Whatever Skrekk!

Just because you and I disagree .. does not mean I do not have a social conscience, what I do not have is an agenda .. Trayvon Martin death was polarized by the media and made about race (put up Tamir Rice, and there will be a point to make) … crimes committed as juveniles tried as adults, I do not agree with unless murder is involved in cold blood …  I am not religious, yet, if I were .. after everything that has happened, my son or daughter would def not be alone with a priest....

All you are offering me is talking points ...

 
 
 
Skrekk
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6.1.6  Skrekk  replied to  Colour Me Free @6.1.5    8 years ago
Whatever Skrekk!

It wasn't a criticism, it was just a good cartoon.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Silent
6.1.7  Colour Me Free  replied to  Skrekk @6.1.6    8 years ago

My bad for becoming defensive ...

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
7  Tacos!    8 years ago
Rather than admit he was flawed, or made some mistakes he regrets, or simply acknowledge that different people might have seen him differently—as they demonstrably did

I have said from the beginning that I wish this had been the case. However, the stakes are so high and American political people have made it clear that they are a sanctimonious, judgmental, and 100% unforgiving people. There is zero true encouragement in today's politics to admit to being a flawed human - even as a minor. Apologies are never accepted. Honesty is never applauded. There is nothing "simple" about acknowledging anything. This is why Bill Clinton lied about Monica and it's why anyone accused of wrongdoing - no matter how minor or personal - will deny deny deny. We did this to ourselves.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @7    8 years ago

You make good points, although I think it is more complicated than that. As far as the SC goes, over the past couple decades it has become very ideologically motivated. Observers can predict Supreme Court decision pretty accurately just based on the case and the ideological makeup of the court. The arguments dont even matter. The justices have their preconceptions and then search for precedents to back up their preconception. 

We need to have only moderates appointed to the court. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
7.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1    8 years ago
The justices have their preconceptions and then search for precedents to back up their preconception.

I think that's true sometimes, but it has always been true. Fortunately, it hasn't swayed the outcome beyond reason too many times. There are the famous exceptions, though.

 
 

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