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Jason Van Dyke trial: Chicago takes to the streets following murder conviction

  

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Via:  perrie-halpern  •  8 years ago  •  24 comments

Jason Van Dyke trial: Chicago takes to the streets following murder conviction
Officer Jason Van Dyke was convicted of murder Friday after shooting a black teenager 16 times in October of 2014.

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CHICAGO — Activists in Chicago used protests to celebrate the murder conviction of a white police officer who killed a black teenager in 2014.

Officer Jason Van Dyke was   found guilty of second-degree murder Friday afternoon for shooting 17-year-old Laquan McDonald 16 times on October 20, 2014. Van Dyke was responding to report of someone breaking into vehicles when he shot McDonald 16 times, before his call for backup was answered. Crowds cheered and hugged each other outside the courtroom after the verdict was read, less than 24 hours after the jury began deliberations.

Special Prosecutor Joe McMahon called the verdict "gratifying."

"We are all pleased that we have been successful in our pursuit for justice for Laquan McDonald, for his mother Tina, and for their family and friends," McMahon said in a press conference. "But a guilty verdict doesn't undo a crime. This verdict holds Jason Van Dyke accountable for his actions. It provides some justice for Laquan McDonald and Tina, for Laquan's family and friends. And it provides validation and a sense of justice for many residents in Cook County."

Marvin Hunter, McDonald’s great uncle, said the verdict was the culmination of a "journey" that began four years ago.

"When we began this journey, I called several African American lawyers and civil rights people and those people thought it was impossible to have a police officer convicted in the county of Cook in the city of Chicago for doing anything to a black person," he said. "However, I continued to believe we could get justice. I decided to dare believe beyond what was being said to me."

Demonstrators began peacefully   protesting in downtown Chicago's Loop area   shortly after the verdict, chanting "Justice for Laquan, justice for all" and "The whole damn system is guilty as hell." The crowds marched in the streets holding signs in support of Black Lives Matter and Laquan McDonald.

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Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.    8 years ago

Will this change the dynamics between the police and the justice system and the black community?

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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1.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1    8 years ago

I wish, but probably not. Cops will, for the most part, will still be free to kill citizens with impunity. 

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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2  Nowhere Man    8 years ago

Good,

16 rounds into the back of someone walking away IS murder in my eyes.....

Will this change things? not in our lifetimes....

 
 
 
cjfrommn
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3  cjfrommn    8 years ago

absolutely it has the ability to change things.

the biggest change i think will be on the patrol level. officers who know the conduct of a dirty/ racist or bad cop will not want to be around him or her or be associated with that cop if there is foresight into potential criminal charges based on a clear cut feeling of police misconduct at the scene.

That means bad cops or ones who know better will start to act better because they just might feel the blue line wont cover them any more for misconduct that results in the death of a citizen. 

Glad the jury was strong enough to make a determination that allowed for conviction. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    8 years ago

Activists also chanted "no cop academy," demanding money from the city's budget be transferred from law-enforcement projects to community-related ones

I can't wait to see what impact that will have on the murder rate. 

 
 
 
cjfrommn
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4.1  cjfrommn  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    8 years ago

not sure why you think the comment they made means anything to the murder rate. they are two separate things. 

the murder rate is based on choices by individuals. the academy is a place where our taxes pay rookies to learn to be cops and hold up the oath of the badge and treat everyone fairly. 

If this money appropriation is being wasted then why not send it to places where community organizations can use that money to go out and try to address the violence where it happens. 

Your comment shows that you are just not understanding the scope of why this case matters on its own merits. 

 
 
 
dave-2693993
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6  dave-2693993    8 years ago

To this day, I can not figure out in my mind why no one stopped Van Dyke.

Seriously, I saw the vid.

It's not a mini gun ran off 16 rounds.

He certainly wasn't "greased lightening" on the trigger. It was almost slow motion.

Nobody intervened. Throw your mace can at him, if anything. Him meaning Van Dyke.

Damn.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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6.1  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  dave-2693993 @6    8 years ago
why no one stopped Van Dyke.

He certainly wasn't "greased lightening" on the trigger. It was almost slow motion.

Nobody intervened. Throw your mace can at him, if anything.

Damn.

..........................

I will take a guess at this,

Maybe it was a combination of Shock and Awe. Shocked to see the officer doing it, and Awe ..he just stopped shooting... no there he goes again..... Shock again...

"Throw your mace can at him."

No No No That kind of deflection action could put You in the crosshairs so easily.

I have no training or experience n this area this is like I said, my guess only.

 
 
 
dave-2693993
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6.1.1  dave-2693993  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @6.1    8 years ago

I can't disagree with anything you stated Steve.

It is one of those situations where an entire team of folks did not react.

Sometimes it is times to talk. Sometimes it is time to do something.

Hell, I could have unloaded 16 rounds in the time it took that fella to make 1 revolution.

Everyone stood flat footed.

Even someone behind him could have bashed him in the head with a baton.

Instead, nothing, while this slow motion of horror occured.

I hope some additional training comes out of this as well.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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6.1.2  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  dave-2693993 @6.1.1    8 years ago
Even someone behind him could have bashed him in the head with a baton.

Or someone could have shot him. That would be out of the scope of their training probably though and so was probably not considered much if at all.

Shock

Instead, nothing, while this slow motion of horror occured.

At that time it probably seemed to go by in an instance. When the brain is searching for WTF is happening, that takes time, Not much but it doesn’t take much delay to eat up seconds.

Guessing…lol

I love analyzing crap. It’s a secret obsession.

lol

PS: I agree with you on more training. Perhaps even on something like this happening again.

 
 
 
dave-2693993
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6.1.3  dave-2693993  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @6.1.2    8 years ago
Or someone could have shot him.

That most likely would result in instant mayhem.

This needs a better approach than standing around flat footed.

Yep, some analysis as opposed to analysis paralysis folowed by some effective training.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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6.1.4  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  dave-2693993 @6.1.3    8 years ago
Or someone could have shot him.

That most likely would result in instant mayhem.

This needs a better approach than standing around flat footed.

Yep, some analysis as opposed to analysis paralysis followed by some effective training.

.................

All so true !

Some professional analysis might be helpful...

I guess...LOL 

 
 
 
dave-2693993
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6.1.5  dave-2693993  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @6.1.4    8 years ago
Some professional analysis might be helpful..

One would hope.

Then again, professional analysis gave us the Joan Claybrook un ride-able, "but safe" motorcycle.

Claybrook.jpg

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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6.1.6  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  dave-2693993 @6.1.5    8 years ago

LOL

Luckily I have adopted a moderation in everything attitude.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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6.1.7  sandy-2021492  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @6.1.4    8 years ago

Anybody who had tried to stop him would most likely have ended up getting shot, themselves.  Most likely by Van Dyke, but possibly by another cop.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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8  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.    8 years ago

I think it's a case of baby steps. I think this will help but it won't be the "fix". That comes with time. 

And I have to agree with Dave. I am not sure why the other cops didn't stop him, unless it really was just shock. Maybe they thought after each shot.. "OK this will be the last one". Or they thought he was nuts and were afraid to approach him. 

 
 

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