╌>

Grassley criticizes Trump’s farm bailout rules after Chinese-owned firm qualifies

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  ender  •  8 years ago  •  26 comments

Grassley criticizes Trump’s farm bailout rules after Chinese-owned firm qualifies

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T



Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) on Thursday expressed alarm that a Chinese-owned pork firm  qualifies for federal payments  under President Trump’s $12 billion bailout for farmers hurt by the administration’s trade war with China.

Grassley, a member of the Senate’s agriculture committee, said Thursday that he did not understand why U.S. pork producer Smithfield Foods is eligible to participate in the bailout program created this summer by the Agriculture Department. Smithfield, one of the largest pork producers in America, was acquired in 2013 by a Chinese conglomerate now named WH Group.

The Trump administration has pitched the bailout as a short-term measure designed to help U.S. farmers survive the trade spat with China. The Chinese government this July imposed retaliatory tariffs on a range of U.S. exports, including 62 percent tariffs on U.S. pork products.

To help affected farmers, the Agriculture Department has said it will buy $1.2 billion of surplus food from farmers for distribution to food banks across the country, including $559 million in pork products. Earlier this week, USDA officials told The Washington Post that Smithfield is on the list that can apply to sell under this new program.

The USDA has also started sending direct cash payments to farmers affected by the trade     and will spend an additional $200 million to promote U.S. exports in foreign markets.

Grassley has not yet talked to the White House about changing the rules to exclude Smithfield from the bailout, but he is considering doing so and may take action at a later date, said Michael Zona, a spokesman for Grassley. The GOP Senator is looking into reported connections between WH Group and the Chinese government -- ties some congressional lawmakers probed when Smithfield was acquired in 2013.

“[Grassley] cares a lot about fundamental fairness when it comes to these programs,” Zona said. “And it appears that taxpayer money will go to a state-owned enterprise as a result of that state’s tariffs.”

Smithfield has not confirmed that it is applying for bailout money, but a spokeswoman said earlier this week that “any approved vendor that can supply the requested product can bid for the contract.” Smithfield did not immediately respond when asked about Grassley’s remarks.

Grassley, a farmer who owns land in Iowa, has been critical of the Trump administration’s trade war but   confirmed   last month that he will himself be requesting money under the bailout program.


Jeff Stein   19 hrs 

Seeded from MSN. Originally from The Washington Post

Photo:  © Jacquelyn Martin/AP


Tags

jrDiscussion - desc
[]
 
Ender
Professor Expert
1  seeder  Ender    8 years ago

So he knows a Chinese owned firm is going to benefit from this yet will do nothing.

Grassley himself is going to profit from this.

The new trump/conservative way. Throw money at every everything.

Spending 1.2 billion plus another 200 mil for promotion.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Ender @1    8 years ago
So he knows a Chinese owned firm is going to benefit from this yet will do nothing.

The story didn't say that.

Grassley has not yet talked to the White House about changing the rules to exclude Smithfield from the bailout, but he is considering doing so and may take action at a later date
 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
1.1.1  seeder  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @1.1    8 years ago

It says exactly that. Has not yet talked to trump and says may do something.

So as of now, nothing.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
1.1.2  Tacos!  replied to  Ender @1.1.1    8 years ago
says may do something

You said he will do nothing, as if he had decided for sure he wasn't going to do anything. The truth is that he may. The words mean different things and therefore our response to them should be appropriate.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
1.1.3  seeder  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @1.1.2    8 years ago

Saying he may do something at a later date is still doing nothing.

I say he will do nothing because this is not getting any attention and if he wanted to, he could have done something already. No need to wait.

I think if he makes a big deal out of it, it will show himself making money off of it and he doesn't want that.

 
 
 
PJ
Masters Silent
1.1.4  PJ  replied to  Ender @1.1.3    8 years ago

That's not exactly true.  He is doing something.  He is applying for his cut of the bailout.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
1.1.5  seeder  Ender  replied to  PJ @1.1.4    8 years ago

True that.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
2  Thrawn 31    8 years ago

Still don't get why I have to pay farmers because dumb shit is willingly fucking over their profit margin. Trump decides to fuck over farmers, then makes me pay them because he fucked them over, seriously? 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
2.1  seeder  Ender  replied to  Thrawn 31 @2    8 years ago

Some will still cheer this on like trump is doing great things.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Ender @2.1    8 years ago
trump is doing great things

See? You do know the truth. You just don't like admitting it.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.2  Tacos!  replied to  Thrawn 31 @2    8 years ago
Still don't get why I have to pay farmer

They're fellow Americans; they're feeding you; their situation is not their fault. Those seem like good reasons.

Trump decides to fuck over farmers

That's silly. He didn't decide to fuck over farmers. No president is trying to do that.

He decided to try to help farmers and other Americans who are connected with trade to China, which is pretty much everyone. China won't change their unfair practices without a good reason, so he's trying to give them a good reason. So far, that strategy has worked with Mexico, Canada, and the European Union. Since he has a track record of success, I think we should be willing to be patient while he works on China, even if it sucks a little in the short term.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
2.2.1  seeder  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @2.2    8 years ago
One notable but really minor exception was Canadian dairy tariffs, supposedly one of the big reasons we needed to renegotiate NAFTA and a sticking point up until the very end. Under the new deal, American farmers will have greater access to the Canadian dairy market, but possible additional exports of a few hundred million dollars annually are a rounding error in a $700 billion U.S.-Canada trading relationship. Likewise, the boost for U.S. auto manufacturers and workers from requiring that more of the value of vehicle content — to 75 percent from the current 62.5 percent — be from the region is likely to be modest.

So why, then, did investors and business groups seem so happy with the new deal if it was only a minor tweaking of the old one? Simple: Cosmetic changes, even if they make the deal a bit worse in some places, are vastly preferable to the U.S. leaving NAFTA or hitting Canada with auto tariffs if it continued to reject the U.S. proposal. In other words, Trump is taking credit for eliminating the uncertainty that he created, much like a firefighter who douses the fire he started and then wants a medal from the mayor .

Link
 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
2.2.2  MrFrost  replied to  Tacos! @2.2    8 years ago
their situation is not their fault.

No, it's trumps fault and as usual, the taxpayers have to pay for his fuck-ups. 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
Sophomore Participates
2.2.3  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Tacos! @2.2    8 years ago
They're fellow Americans;  their situation is not their fault. 

Sounds like welfare ta me. 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
Sophomore Participates
2.2.5  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.4    8 years ago
Welfare like the auto industry bailout?

Cool its more like a loan ? Good luck getting it back.

 
 
 
PJ
Masters Silent
2.2.6  PJ  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @2.2.5    8 years ago

with interest.....

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
2.2.7  Thrawn 31  replied to  Tacos! @2.2    8 years ago
They're fellow Americans

So the fuck what?

they're feeding you

No I am buying their products.

their situation is not their fault.

Yeah, it is the fault of the fucking idiot they elected. Why should I have to bail their idiot asses out?

That's silly. He didn't decide to fuck over farmers. No president is trying to do that.

Tariffs/trade war. It was no mystery, at any point, that farmers would be fucked the hardest, and fat fuck did it anyways. Trump went out of his way to do that.

Hedecidedto try tohelpfarmers and other Americans who are connected with trade to China

Cool, why should I have to pay for it?

China won't change their unfair practices without a good reason, so he's trying to give them a good reason.

Why should I have to pay for it?

So far, that strategy has worked with Mexico, Canada, and the European Union. Since he has a track record of success, I think we should be willing to be patient while he works on China, even if it sucks a little in the short term.

Depends on your pathetically low definition of success. But again, why am I paying? 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
Sophomore Participates
2.2.9  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.8    8 years ago
Maybe.

Perhaps:

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.2.10  Tacos!  replied to  Thrawn 31 @2.2.7    8 years ago

I'm just going to suggest that you never lecture anyone else on being selfish. Because, wow!

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
3  Tacos!    8 years ago

Here's an example of news media explaining away something that doesn't make them happy (i.e. that Trump may have done a good thing and maybe they were wrong about him destroying the economy):

So why, then, did investors and business groups seem so happy with the new deal if it was only a minor tweaking of the old one? 

People who should know (investors and business groups) are happy. That's bad for the "Trump is evil" narrative. So we have to make up a reason why this approval is not what it appears to obviously be.

Simple: Cosmetic changes . . .

What follows is opinion, but how honest that opinion is remains dubious.

Here's the thing: Even if you think redoing NAFTA is no biggie, it's not the calamity the haters predicted. Furthermore, even the haters have to admit that there is some improvement, albeit "modest" whatever that means.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3.1  MrFrost  replied to  Tacos! @3    8 years ago
Here's an example of news media explaining away something that doesn't make them happy

Not sure what that has to do with what trump has done with regards to this article? 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
3.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  MrFrost @3.1    8 years ago

It's an example of media bias in the reporting. They predicted disaster, but good things happened instead. They were wrong. They'll never admit it, so they twist themselves into knots and claim it's not as good as claimed, so you should continue to think poorly of the president. It's partisan and desperate.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
4  bbl-1    8 years ago

Grassley's main interest is in the 'monetary grease.'  Other than that he has no interest at all.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
Sophomore Participates
5  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu     8 years ago

a Chinese-owned pork firm  qualifies for federal payments  under President Trump’s $12 billion bailout for farmers hurt by the administration’s trade war with China.

IF this wasn't so damn sad, it'd be almost hilarious. 

OOps, them damn loopholes... details .... Whose watching the details ?  

silence 

............................

IF policies start coming forth in crayon, I'm starting to look abroad.  buzz ?  How's is china ? ....lol

 
 

Who is online







162 visitors