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Tomorrow belongs to me - (Der morgige tag ist mein)

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  krishna  •  8 years ago  •  52 comments

Tomorrow belongs to me -  (Der morgige tag ist mein)
Oh fatherland, fatherland show us the sign your children have waited to see, the morning will come when the world is mine, tomorrow belongs to me

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Krishna
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1  seeder  Krishna    8 years ago

Oh Fatherland, Fatherland
Show us the sign
Your children have waited to see
The morning will come
When the world is mine
Tomorrow belongs to me!

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
1.1  Skrekk  replied to  Krishna @1    8 years ago

You know who Trump really needs to hire?   A couple of good Jewish songwriters.   That way he wouldn't be sued so often by artists who don't want their works used to sell his fascism.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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1.1.1  bbl-1  replied to  Skrekk @1.1    8 years ago

Except the Trump has Ted Nugent.  Trump should use him exclusively.  You know, the "Crab Scratch Fever" dude?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.2  JBB  replied to  Skrekk @1.1    8 years ago

Maybe Neil Diamond. Just imagine Trump entering to the roar of his adoring crowds accompanied by Neil's soaring vocals on "I'm Comming To America". Hold Up! Mr Diamond's people are already saying he is definitely out...

 
 
 
Skrekk
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1.1.3  Skrekk  replied to  JBB @1.1.2    8 years ago

And isn't Neil Diamond's family Jewish and relatively recent immigrants?    I can't imagine that he'd want anything whatsoever to do with Trump.

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.4  JBB  replied to  Skrekk @1.1.3    8 years ago

Yes and yes and I doubt it. I was being sarcastic butt I forgot the /s...

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
2  seeder  Krishna    8 years ago

It can't happen here!!!

(Or could it...?)

 
 
 
Skrekk
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2.1  Skrekk  replied to  Krishna @2    8 years ago

It's interesting how the Nazis were as much a reaction against the progressivism of the latter Weimar years as they were a reaction against the post-WWI economic collapse.    Perhaps Trump was entirely predictable in that sense.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.1  JBB  replied to  Skrekk @2.1    8 years ago

The Pat Buchanan Culture Warriors have not died off, yet...

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
2.1.2  Skrekk  replied to  JBB @2.1.1    8 years ago

I guess the big difference between then and now is that Trump doesn't have the youth vote or pretty much anyone under 30.    There never will be a "Trump Youth" group to turn in their disloyal parents.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.3  JBB  replied to  Skrekk @2.1.2    8 years ago

During normal times Nazi references are normally out of bounds regarding normal political debates. These are not normal time nor normal situations nor politics as normal...

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
2.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @2    8 years ago
It can't happen here!!!

("It can't happen part 2"):

When 20,000 American Nazis Descended Upon New York City

Video by  Marshall Curry

In 1939, the  German American Bund  organized a rally of 20,000 Nazi supporters at Madison Square Garden in New York City. When Academy Award-nominated documentarian  Marshall Curry  stumbled upon footage of the event in historical archives, he was flabbergasted. Together with  Field of Vision , he decided to present the footage as a cautionary tale to Americans. The short film,  A Night at the Garden,  premieres on  The Atlantic  today.

“The first thing that struck me was that an event like this could happen in the heart of New York City,” Curry told  The Atlantic . “The first thing that struck me was that an event like this could happen in the heart of New York City,” Curry told  The Atlantic . “Watching it felt like an episode of  The Twilight Zone  where history has taken a different path. But it wasn’t science fiction – it was real, historical footage. It all felt eerily familiar, given today’s political situation.”

[...]

“The footage is so powerful,” continued Curry, “it seems amazing that it isn’t a stock part of every high school history class. This story was likely nudged out of the canon, in part because it’s scary and embarrassing. It tells a story about our country that we’d prefer to forget.”

I had previously seeded some still photos of the event but just came across this video. You can watch the video (pretty shocking stuff!) and read the rest of this brief article HERE )

 
 
 
dave-2693993
Junior Silent
2.2.1  dave-2693993  replied to  Krishna @2.2    8 years ago

Some of the German Bund members came knocking on doors of families with German names. They would make several visits to coerce the fighting aged men to go to the Fatherland.

Of course they began with sweet charismatic talk but would progress to threatening talk. At least 2 of those arm twisters went home unexpectedly in an unanticipated fashion.

I'll leave it at that. The 1 and only time I provided semi details, the post completely vanished without so much as any comment.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
2.2.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  dave-2693993 @2.2.1    8 years ago
The 1 and only time I provided semi details, the post completely vanished without so much as any comment.

Where was it posted-- on NT or Newsvine? Or...?

 
 
 
dave-2693993
Junior Silent
2.2.3  dave-2693993  replied to  Krishna @2.2.2    8 years ago
Where was it posted-- on NT or Newsvine? Or...?

Here on NT

 
 
 
shona1
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2.2.4  shona1  replied to  dave-2693993 @2.2.1    8 years ago

A/noon Dave...My ex boss is Australian, but of German heritage..his parents migrated here after the Second World War and he was born here..He has always said if the "Fatherland" went to war again he would go and fight for them...Said fair enough, but I will be on the other side and if you are in the crosshairs...I would pull the trigger without hesitation....He was somewhat taken aback by my comment..Said well that is your problem, you are fighting on the wrong side...He never mentioned it again around me...He has never even been to Germany...There is always one rotten apple in the barrel....

 
 
 
dave-2693993
Junior Silent
2.2.5  dave-2693993  replied to  shona1 @2.2.4    8 years ago

Shona, are you this Arvo? Good to hear from you.

LOL, I am sure he was taken aback.

The funny thing is, I didn't learn until both my maternal grandparents had passed that we were actually Russian on that side. My grandfather took a German name during/after his escape from Russia while Lenin brutally murdered his own 6 million people. Got to watch out for those charismatic revolutionaries. Too long a story to get into the details here.

Also funny, until I learned we were Russian on that side, I had always wondered about my grandfather's and aunts grey eyes. Maybe some Germans have grey eyes but I have never seen one.

I had seen Russians with grey eyes though.

I hold no ill will toward Germans. nazis are a different story.

I am no friend of  the Russian revolutionaries and communist either.

Cheers Shona.

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
2.2.6  shona1  replied to  dave-2693993 @2.2.5    8 years ago

Gidday Dave..I am of the opinion "each to their own".... Always have been....But I respect other people's opinions etc and I am tolerant of them within reason and up to a certain extent...But cross the line and it is "croc bait" for them...jrSmiley_2_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
dave-2693993
Junior Silent
2.2.7  dave-2693993  replied to  shona1 @2.2.6    8 years ago
But cross the line and it is "croc bait" for them...

Go get 'em.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
2.2.8  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @2.2    8 years ago

“The footage is so powerful,” continued Curry, “it seems amazing that it isn’t a stock part of every high school history class. This story was likely nudged out of the canon, in part because it’s scary and embarrassing. It tells a story about our country that we’d prefer to forget.”

I had previously seeded some still photos of the event but just came across this video. You can watch the video (pretty shocking stuff!) and read the rest of this brief article  HERE )

Here's a photo:

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A crowd of approximately 20,000 attends a German American Bund Rally at New York's Madison Square Garden on February 20, 1939. At center is a large portrait of George Washington, claimed as an icon by the Bund, who called him "the first Fascist", claiming Washington "knew democracy could not work."

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
2.2.9  Skrekk  replied to  Krishna @2.2.8    8 years ago

President Macron recently noted the similarities between pre-WWII Europe and the conditions in Europe today:

French President Emmanuel Macron has warned that a “nationalist leprosy” risks dragging Europe back to the 1930s.

He said the spread of populism was dividing Europe and weakening it against rivals such as China and Russia. 

[..]

“I am struck by similarities between the times we live in and those of between the two world wars,” he told Ouest-France newspaper in an interview published Friday.

“In a Europe divided by fears, the return of nationalism, the consequences of economic crisis, one sees almost systematically everything that marked Europe between the end of World War I and the 1929 crisis,” he said.

Europe must “know how to fight back,” he added.

In addition to Brexit, Europe has been rocked by the rise of nationalist governments in Hungary and Poland and populist parties in Italy.

“Europe faces a risk — that of being broken up by the nationalist leprosy and of being pushed around by foreign powers,” Macron said.

That means “having security depend on U.S. choices, having China play an ever-greater role when it comes to essential infrastructures, and Russia sometimes tempted to try its hand at manipulation, and have financial interests and markets sometimes play greater roles than those of states.”

He avoided mention of Trump's July visit to Europe , in which the U.S. president demanded NATO allies increase their defense spending and said Germany was "totally controlled by Russia."

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I just don't get why conservatives don't grasp the very real issues here.    Are they so profoundly unschooled as to not recognize a real threat when it stares them in the face?   Usually they're hyper-responsive to even the tiniest whiff of an alleged threat.    Or is it that their authoritarian tendencies blind them to the threat of fascism even when it's in their own back yard?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
2.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @2    8 years ago
"It can't happen here!!!"

I watched Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention perform that in person in Detroit about half a century ago.  The thought has remained with me ever since.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
2.3.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.3    8 years ago
There's a lot of interesting information about that book (by Sinclair Lewis) on Wikipedia.   I found this part to be especially relevant today:
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A number of writers have compared the demagogue Buzz Windrip to Donald Trump. Michael Paulson wrote in  The New York Times  that the Berkeley Repertory Theatre's rendition of the play aimed to provoke discussion about Trump's presidential candidacy. [27]  Jules Stewart discussed the similarities between Trump's America with the country as depicted in the book in an article in  The Guardian . [28]  

Malcolm Harris, in  Salon  stated that "Like Trump, Windrip uses a lack of tact as a way to distinguish himself" and that "The social forces that Windrip and Trump invoke aren’t funny, they’re murderous." [29]  In the  Washington Post , Carlos Lozada also compared Trump to Windrip, opining that "it is impossible to miss the similarities between Trump and totalitarian figures in American literature." [30]  

Jacob Weisberg in  Slate  stated that "You can’t read Lewis’ novel today without flashes of Trumpian recognition." [31]

Following the results of the 2016 United States presidential election, sales of  It Can't Happen Here  surged significantly, and it appeared on Amazon.com's list of bestselling books. [32]

In 2018,  Can It Happen Here? , a collection of essays about the prospect of authoritarianism in the United States, edited by Cass Sunstein, was published by HarperCollins
 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Expert
3  Kavika     8 years ago

The U.S. isn't immune from stupidity/racism/hate or from false prophets. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1  JBB  replied to  Kavika @3    8 years ago

Soviets always said American hubris and decadence would do from within what not foreign armies could accomplish. I always believed the American voters were way to smart to let that happen up until 11-09-2016. Fool me once and all butt, Trumpism is bullshit...

It is hard to be funny and not serious when all around you stinks.

Our sacred Republic is in danger if people don't get out and vote...

It is not like people have not had two years of this to figure it out.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
3.1.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  JBB @3.1    8 years ago
Soviets always said American hubris and decadence would do from within what not foreign armies could accomplish. I always believed the American voters were way to smart to let that happen up until 11-09-2016.

Its definitely started under Trump. But its only started-- it may slow down considerably and eventually come to a halt if Democrats take the House. (Trump would still have some power-- but actions which require Congressional approval will be stopped. And perhaps most importantly if the Gems win the House,-- the House Committees will all be controlled by Democrats. And they can be the ones in charge of conducting investigaons-- and there's plenty about Trump and his henchmen to uncover...).

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
4  bbl-1    8 years ago

Sinclair Lewis.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.1  JBB  replied to  bbl-1 @4    8 years ago

Right on cue they came waving the flag and dragging a cross...

Of course the cross is for burning after hanging Obama's effigy.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
5  Buzz of the Orient    8 years ago

The Nazis are no longer the ones whose aim it is to take over the world.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
5.1  bbl-1  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5    8 years ago

Sure about that?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
5.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  bbl-1 @5.1    8 years ago

Yes I am.  I don't think a minority of ignorant people such as neo-Nazis is worth being concerned about their "taking over the world".  

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
5.1.2  bbl-1  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.1.1    8 years ago

No, not them per se'  But there is movement in Europe, Africa, S. America and to an extent, here in the US.  Fear and exclusion is the path the movement seeks.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.2  JBB  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5    8 years ago

Today's American equivilent of 1930's fascists and German Nazis (The Nationalists) blame all the world' problems on an international cartel of rich influential Jews (The Globalists) in case you did not understand...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
5.2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JBB @5.2    8 years ago

Do you agree with them?  Do you believe Jews want to take over the world?  By "rich influential Jews (The Globalists)" I assume you are referring to George Soros.  Personally, I do not have any good feelings about him myself.

Such beliefs that Jews control governments and the media are typical antisemitic canards and are defined as such by most civilized western countries.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
5.2.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  JBB @5.2    8 years ago

Today's American equivilent of 1930's fascists and German Nazis (The Nationalists) blame all the world' problems on an international cartel of rich influential Jews (The Globalists) in case you did not understand...

Exactly.

But of course racism-- and specifically anti-Semitism, is not limited to the U.S. Its present in many places, and particularly virulent in many "third word" countries:

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In this cartoon, from Al-Watan newspaper in Qatar (June 23, 2002), Ariel Sharon is shown watching on the sidelines as an Israeli plane crashes into New York’s World Trade Center. The Arabic words alongside the Twin Towers are “The Peace.”

This cartoon restates the widely held myth in the Arab world that Israel and the Jews were responsible for the 9/11 attacks which were in fact of course carried out by al-Qaeda.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
5.2.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @5.2.2    8 years ago

This cartoon restates the widely held myth in the Arab world that Israel and the Jews were responsible for the 9/11 attacks which were in fact of course carried out by al-Qaeda.

Here's another:

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The cartoon above, from Arab News, depicts rats wearing Stars of David and skullcaps. They scurry backwards and forwards through holes in the wall of a building called “Palestine House.”

Arab News, an English-language daily widely read by expats in Saudi Arabia, is widely-regarded as a moderate publication. It is published by a state-owned Saudi corporation.

The imagery in the cartoon may well be inspired by a well-known scene from the Nazi film “Jew Suess,” to which it bears a close resemblance – a scene in which Jews are depicted as vermin to be eradicated by mass extermination. (Link)

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.2.4  JBB  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.2.1    8 years ago

Agree with them? No, I ridicule them...

You seem to have feet in both boats...

Decry globalists & call them a canard.

Who among the current elected Jewish political leadership in the US do you have good nice things to say about? Chuck Schumer? Diane Feinstein? Michael Blumenthal? Bernie Sanders? What about Rahm Emanuel or Michael Bloomberg? Perhaps Debbie Wasserman Schultz? No? None of them, huh?

 
 
 
Skrekk
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5.2.5  Skrekk  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.2.1    8 years ago
By "rich influential Jews (The Globalists)" I assume you are referring to George Soros.   Personally, I do not have any good feelings about him myself.

You might want to learn a little more about him without using loony right wing sources.

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Such beliefs that Jews control governments and the media are typical antisemitic canards and are defined as such by most civilized western countries.

Ummmm.......yeah.    It's an antisemitic canard which Trump and the right wing use.   Were you not aware of that?   Good grief.    That's almost as bad as when you recently cited a notorious antisemite to support your anti-refugee views.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.2.6  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Skrekk @5.2.5    8 years ago

IMPASSE

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
5.2.7  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JBB @5.2.4    8 years ago
"You seem to have feet in both boats... Decry globalists & call them a canard."

What are you talking about?  I made two different and totally separate statements and did not connect them - they are two totally different issues.  What are you trying to accomplish by misinterpreting what I said?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.2.8  JBB  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.2.6    8 years ago

Don't wanna answer huh? Some PEOPLE! I'll tell you what... 

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devangelical
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5.2.9  devangelical  replied to  JBB @5.2.8    8 years ago

[delete]

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
5.2.10  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JBB @5.2.8    8 years ago

Is this the question you want me to answer?

"Who among the current elected Jewish political leadership in the US do you have good nice things to say about? Chuck Schumer? Diane Feinstein? Michael Blumenthal? Bernie Sanders? What about Rahm Emanuel or Michael Bloomberg? Perhaps Debbie Wasserman Schultz? No? None of them, huh?"

I don't know enough about most of them to answer your question (which you seem to have answered for me putting words into my mouth before I even saw your question - LOL - that's a good trick.)  I'm not happy with Bernie Sanders' attitude about Israel.  Schultz seemed to get herself into trouble, didn't she? I have nothing to say about the others since as I said I don't know much about them - I don't think I have ever criticized or praised any of them. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.2.11  JBB  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.2.10    8 years ago

So, suddenly you do not even know hardly anything at all about our elected American Jewish political leadership? That is odd, considering. They are all household names to American Jews. Who does not know of the Senior US Senators from New York (Chuck Schumer) and California (Diane Feinstein) who keeps up with our politics at all? Actually, I am pretty darned sure you do recognize who they all are even though you now conveniently claim otherwise. In any case, I will surely remember to remind you of this little confession of yours the very next time you elect are expounding upon the subject as if you are the ultimate expert...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
5.2.12  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JBB @5.2.11    8 years ago

Is that a threat?  No doubt that American Jews know all about the names you mentioned, because they are THEIR lawmakers, but perhaps you didn't know that I am NOT an American and not quite so familiar with YOUR lawmakers as YOU are, other than the fact that I DO know who every one of them is.  Again you are putting words in my mouth to say that I claim that I don't know who they are - I did no such thing. I said I don't know ENOUGH about them to answer your question.  Do your trolling somewhere else. I'm through with discussing this with you.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.2.13  JBB  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.2.12    8 years ago

Threat? Where? Do you consider my intention to remind you what you said here next time you pontificate about things you admit here you do not even know enough about to comment on a threat? Hahaha! That is rich. You claimed ignorance when it suited you and now you pretend to be the world's greatest authority on the subject. What you are doing is transparent. So, can the victim act. It isn't working. 

On another note, please do try to illegally register and vote in California since you think it is so easy and you could get away with it. Just like in China, California prosecutes those who commit fraud to circumvent their laws including voting laws which explicitely prohibit non-citizens from voting under stiff penalty of law. Our prisons are full of felons who thought they could break our laws without consequences. This is just another example of your bluster when you plainly either do not have one idea what you gab about or else you are just being intentionally mendacious. In this case your know it all bluster falls embarrassingly flat. 

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Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
5.2.14  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JBB @5.2.13    8 years ago

IMPASSE

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
5.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5    8 years ago

The Nazis are no longer the ones whose aim it is to take over the world.

I don't know if you can find this video on Tudou. Its neo-Nazis and Klan supporters marching in C 'Ville holding torches and chanting:

The Jews will not replace us!

(You really can't get the full effect of what happened without watching the video).

Trump refused to condemn them and in fact said:

There are good people on both sides.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
6  bbl-1    8 years ago

Whatever.  The Trump stokes his base with 'Globalism' as he secretly meets with a Russian Oligarch President and 'Sword Dances' with an Arabian Dynasty.  Bottom line is...…….whose 'Global' is being set to be gored.  Or cut into pieces depending on geographic location.

The Trump base...……….souls of the lost in a world being sold from underneath them.

 
 
 
Spikegary
Junior Quiet
6.1  Spikegary  replied to  bbl-1 @6    8 years ago
'Sword Dances' with an Arabian Dynasty

Kind of like when he formally bowed to the Saudi King....oh wait, that was.......

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
6.1.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Spikegary @6.1    8 years ago

Kind of like when he formally bowed to the Saudi King....oh wait, that was.......

Presidents of both parties have kow-towed to the Saudi leaders. 

In the past it was "all about oil".

But due to a number of factors-- especially the discovery of the process of Hydraulic fracturing (AKA "Fracking") America's reliance of Saudi oil has decreased significantly. (In fact I believe we are now "energy independent"-- or close to it..???)

So now its about the YUGE amount of money the U.S. gets from arms sales to the Saudis. Plus they are one of the main counters to the threat of Iranian expansionism in the Middle East.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
6.1.2  bbl-1  replied to  Spikegary @6.1    8 years ago

Cheap shot.  President GWBush walked with the Saudi King, holding hands in the Kingdom and when the King visited President Bush at his Midland Texas ranch.  The gesture is of friendship, respect, trust and honor.  Incessant belittling is not only boring it is also too predictable and reflects a disinterest or lack of understanding in traditional values and international protocols.

 
 

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