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FAIR: Wall in doubt with Dems in control

  

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Via:  mbfc-censorship-fascists  •  8 years ago  •  97 comments

FAIR: Wall in doubt with Dems in control
"They have made it very clear that they no longer support building any kind of security fence," he tells OneNewsNow. "It's questionable whether they even support any kind of immigration enforcement."

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An immigration enforcement organization says with Democrats in control of the House next year, funding projects like the border wall will be very problematic.

Members of the military have been busy putting up wire barricades along the southern border in response to the migrant caravan that has been making its way from Central America to the U.S.-Mexico border. The erection of wire barriers illustrates just how Trump's proposed border wall would be valuable in compelling migrants to enter through proper ports of entry or turn away.

But with Democrats taking control of the House in January, money for the wall won't be easily forthcoming. Ira Mehlman, spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, has no doubt how a Democratic majority would deal with the issue.

"They have made it very clear that they no longer support building any kind of security fence," he tells OneNewsNow. "It's questionable whether they even support any kind of immigration enforcement."

But Mehlman says Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (D-California), who is anticipating becoming Speaker of the House again, is going to have to understand that some of the midterm Democrat House pickups occurred in "purple" districts where new members support stronger immigration enforcement.

"Pelosi is going to have two competing factions of her party, and she's going to have to make the determination whether she's going to go with the 'Abolish ICE' wing of the party or the more responsible wing of the party that recognizes that immigration enforcement is important," says Mehlman. "It's a national security issue; it's about protecting vital interests of the American people."

Democrats, he suggests, are going to have to step up and demonstrate to the American people that they can be responsible players.


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JBB
Professor Principal
2  JBB    8 years ago

We do not need Trump's no good stinking ineffective expensive dumbass wall...

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Quiet
3  pat wilson    8 years ago

Don't worry, Mexico is gonna pay for it, remember ? 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
4  MrFrost    8 years ago

If the southern red states want a wall, let them pay for it. I don't see why MY tax dollars should go to support something I don't think we need. (Hey, does that sound anything like, "I don't want to pay for someone else's health care, pay for your own!!!")? 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
5  MrFrost    8 years ago

Trump said no more funding for  meals on wheels, then wants to spend 100 million a year on personal travel and golf AND 26 BILLION for a wall that will do nothing to keep illegals out? 

You have got to be fucking kidding me. 

 
 
 
lady in black
Professor Silent
5.1  lady in black  replied to  MrFrost @5    8 years ago

Unless said wall is manned day and night all along the top of it (think the ice wall in Game of Thrones and we can have our own Deporables Brothers of the Night Watch) it won't stop shit.  They will figure a way over it and/or under it or around it where no wall can exist.  I'm sure there are many tunnels that we have not found.  If deporables want this asinine wall then they can fucking pay for it.

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MrFrost
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5.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  lady in black @5.1    8 years ago

Exactly...

512

 
 
 
epistte
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5.1.3  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.2    8 years ago
The new wall prototypes are not climbable.

Do you plan on forcing Mexico to ban ladders over 30' tall?

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
5.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.2    8 years ago
The new wall prototypes are not climbable.

Drones don't need to "climb" the wall. And you can climb a ladder....you know, that's what they are for. Can't climb the side of my house either, but with a ladder? No problem. 

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
5.1.5  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  MrFrost @5.1.4    8 years ago

has anyone actually claimed the wall would stop illegal entry? 

 if anything it could slow the illegal entry down so that authorities can be on the other side .

at least no one has genuinely brought up the idea of planting land mines on the US side , way to overcome that is simply run some livestock through a minefield.

"yeah jesus , you can get over , but watch your step , that first one can be a doosey……"

 
 
 
lady in black
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5.1.6  lady in black  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.2    8 years ago

LOLOLOLOL.....sure they are....ever hear of a LADDER....ever hear of mountain climbing tools...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.1.7  JBB  replied to  lady in black @5.1.6    8 years ago

There is no wall can't be gone over, under or around...

What about all the eastern Europeans jumping visas?

Oh, I forgot. Eastern Europeans are as white as Trump.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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5.1.8  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  JBB @5.1.7    8 years ago
There is no wall can't be gone over, under or around..

That's probably why the experts all seem to call for a fence that can be seen thru so they can meet the invaders as or before they penetrate the barrier, not long after they're over, under, around or thru and gone.  

 
 
 
epistte
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5.1.9  epistte  replied to  lady in black @5.1.6    8 years ago
LOLOLOLOL.....sure they are....ever hear of a LADDER....ever hear of mountain climbing tools...

A bucket truck and rappelling gear would drop 5 people over the wall and be gone before anyone was ever seen.  The wall is a monument to stupidity, graft, and xenophobia.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.1.11  JBB  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @5.1.8    8 years ago

So, are we going to start firing through the wall at people?

I don't think this has been thought through by some folks...

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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5.1.12  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  JBB @5.1.11    8 years ago
So, are we going to start firing through the wall at people?

Why would we ? Have they even committed a crime? If not I think that's called murder. (Unless they throw a rock.)

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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5.1.13  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to    8 years ago
Israels  fence works great but they do back it up with machine guns.

I think we intend to arrest and deport most of them that is probably way more expensive but I guess we think its more human for some reason. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.1.14  JBB  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @5.1.12    8 years ago

I dont think shooting refugees is the easy fix some imagine it to be...

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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5.1.15  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  JBB @5.1.14    8 years ago
I dont think shooting refugees is the easy fix some imagine it to be...

Again, Why would we ? Have they even committed a crime? If not I think that's called murder. (Unless they throw a rock.)

I think we intend to arrest and deport most of them that is probably way more expensive but I guess we think its more human for some reason. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.1.16  JBB  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @5.1.15    8 years ago

Some around here seem to think shooting refugees is viable option...

The goppers plainly have not thought this thing through. I have tried and tried to explain to them that merely approaching our border to ask for refuge is not a crime but all I ever hear back is, "BUT THEY ARE ILLEGAL"...

 
 
 
epistte
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5.1.17  epistte  replied to  JBB @5.1.16    8 years ago
Some around here seem to think shooting refugees is an option...

Anyone with brown skin who doesn't know the lyrics to God Bless America by Lee Greenwood gets a bullet. It's the law from the pro-life party.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
5.1.18  MrFrost  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @5.1.5    8 years ago

And the first time some kid wanders through that mine field and is killed? "Oops"?

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
5.1.19  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.2    8 years ago

Anything is climbable with the right gear and the motivation.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
5.1.21  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  MrFrost @5.1.18    8 years ago

my apologies for forgetting the sarc tag, I don't post very often on this site anymore.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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6  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu     8 years ago

Members of the military have been busy putting up wire barricades along the southern border in response to the migrant caravan that has been making its way from Central America to the U.S.-Mexico border. The erection of wire barriers illustrates just how Trump's proposed border wall would be valuable in compelling migrants to enter through proper ports of entry or turn away.

Wonderful, How many miles a day can they secure ?  Keep em working !

less than 2000 miles to go and counting and probably the least expensive way to secure the border yet. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.1  JBB  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @6    8 years ago

Now our troops can just line up on the border holding hands while yelling, "Red Rover! Red Rover! Come Over! Come Over!"? That's the ticket. That could work. Of course, any of the refugees who breaks through our line gets to send one of our soldiers back across the border to the Mexicans /s...

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
Sophomore Silent
7  Phoenyx13    8 years ago

which wall ? the one that Trump claimed would stop all illegal drugs ?? 

Trump, Aug. 28:  "The wall will stop much of the drugs from pouring into this country and poisoning our youth. So we need the wall. It’s imperative. …

"The wall is needed from the standpoint of drug — tremendous, the drug scourge, what’s coming through the areas that we’re talking about. …

"So we will build the wall, and we will stop a lot of things, including the drug — the drugs are pouring in at levels like nobody has ever seen. We’ll be able to stop them once the wall is up. "

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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7.1  Studiusbagus  replied to  Phoenyx13 @7    8 years ago
the drugs are pouring in at levels like nobody has ever seen. We’ll be able to stop them once the wall is up."

And yet not a damn thing done about pill mills. We don't have a Marijuana epidemic, mules are a miniscule part of the trade in cocaine, meth and painkillers are manufactured here or imported. And most heroin is Asian. In 2017 alone opium production was up 84% in Afghanistan which covers 90% of the world market including the USA.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
8  Studiusbagus    8 years ago
Wall In Doubt With Dems In Control

You haven't had much luck with Republican controlled houses either.

Love how the twist is being placed on the Dems because you couldn't get your own party to follow along.

We weren't going to pay a dime, right? 

Mexico was paying for the wall, right?

Now, he's threatening to shut the government down if we don't pay for the wall...he does that and you can kiss that iron curtain you think he has in the Senate from impeachment.

Pence isn't safe either. OMG your own party is going to fuck you in to President Pelosi and VP Elizabeth "Pocahontes" Warren....

I want to be the Ambulance diver when they finally cart you off babbling incoherently.

 
 

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