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Once-prominent 'conversion therapist' will now 'pursue life as a gay man'

  

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Via:  perrie-halpern  •  7 years ago  •  36 comments

Once-prominent 'conversion therapist' will now 'pursue life as a gay man'
Described as the “intellectual godfather” of “ex-gay therapy,” David Matheson told NBC News he is now dating men.

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David Matheson, a once prominent Mormon “conversion therapist” who claims to have helped some gay men remain in heterosexual marriages, is looking for a boyfriend.

The revelation broke Sunday night after the LGBTQ nonprofit   Truth Wins Out   obtained a private Facebook post made by fellow “conversion therapist” Rich Wyler, which stated that Matheson “says that living a single, celibate life ‘just isn’t feasible for him,’ so he’s seeking a male partner.”

Matheson then confirmed Wyler’s assertions on Tuesday with a   Facebook post of his own . “A year ago I realized I had to make substantial changes in my life. I realized I couldn’t stay in my marriage any longer. And I realized that it was time for me to affirm myself as gay,” he wrote.

Matheson, who was married to a woman for 34 years and is now divorced, also confirmed in an interview with NBC News that he is now dating men.

So-called gay conversion therapy, which is sometimes referred to as “ex-gay therapy” or “reparative therapy,” is a pseudoscientific practice that seeks to change a person’s sexual orientation or gender identity. Talk therapy is currently the most commonly used technique, but some practitioners have also combined this with "aversion treatments," such as induced vomiting or electric shocks, according to a 2018 report by UCLA’s Williams Institute (Matheson stressed he never participated in "aversion therapy"). Nearly every major health association, including the American Medical Association and the American Psychological Association, has denounced the practice.

Matheson acknowledged his work has hurt some people, but he would not fully renounce “conversion therapy.” Instead, he blamed what he referred to as the “shame-based, homophobic-based system” of the Mormon church in which he was raised. He acknowledged that he perpetuated that system, but he also argued that he helped some men who wished to live “in congruence” with their faith.

“I know there are people who won’t be satisfied by anything less than a complete and unequivocal renunciation of everything,” Matheson said. “That’s hard, because I want people to feel the genuineness of my change of heart, but people need to understand that there is more than one reality in the world.” To those who feel harmed by his past work, he relayed a message: “I unequivocally apologize.”

To Chaim Levin, who said he was psychologically hurt by programs Matheson helped create, an   apology is not enough .

“While I am pleased for Mr. Matheson that he has found a path forward for his life, I can’t help but think of the hundreds if not thousands of people who are still stuck in the closet, a closet that was created in part by Mr. Matheson himself,” Levin told Truth Wins Out. “I hope that Mr. Matheson will do whatever he can to rectify the harm that he’s inflicted on many people in the LGBTQ community, myself included.”

Nearly 700,000 LGBTQ adults in the U.S. have received “conversion therapy” at some point in their lives, according to the Williams Institute. Its   2018 conversion therapy report   notes that efforts to change a person’s sexual orientation or gender identity are associated with poor mental health, including suicidality.

More and more states are banning the controversial practice on minors, a step that Matheson said he now supports. Just last week,   New York became the 15th state to do so , but the practice still remains legal across the U.S. for consenting adults. A California bill that would have designated paid “conversion therapy” for adults as fraudulent under the state’s consumer protection law   was shelved in August   after opposition from religious groups.

‘INTELLECTUAL GODFATHER’ OF ‘CONVERSION THERAPY’


Truth Wins Out founder Wayne Besen, a longtime anti-conversion-therapy activist and former investigative journalist, referred to Matheson as a figure who many in the “conversion therapy” movement looked to as “the intellectual godfather.”

“When they wanted an expert, they would go to him,” Besen said, “and when your expert is now coming out of the closet and dating men, I think that speaks volumes about how reparative therapy is damaging and ineffective.”

Matheson was an early protege of Joseph Nicolosi, who founded the notorious National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH). Matheson’s involvement in developing “conversion therapy” programs goes back decades, though ironically, he has long been open about his attraction to men. His 2013 book, “Becoming a Whole Man,” chronicles his “six-year quest” to rid himself of “unwanted” homosexuality, according to the book’s Amazon.com description.

In a statement Matheson emailed to Truth Wins Out on Sunday, he refused to renounce his past work or condemn what he called “mixed-orientation marriages.”

“I continue to support the rights of individuals to choose how they will respond to their sexual attractions and identity,” he wrote. “With that freedom, I am now choosing to pursue life as a gay man.”

Besen said he found Matheson’s statement “to be all about his journey” with “very little concern about his victims that he has harmed.”

“I would like to see someone more contrite and willing to reach out and help the people whose lives he’s ruined,” Besen said. “I’d also like to see him consider refunding the money to the people that he bilked out of their paychecks for therapy that clearly wasn’t even working for himself.”

Matheson is far from the only ‘ex-gay therapist’ who has either come out as gay or been exposed for living a double life.

In 2000, “conversion therapy” advocate and “success story” John Paulk was photographed at a Washington D.C. gay bar; a decade later he issued a   formal apology   for his “ex-gay” past. Alan Chambers, former president of the now defunct “conversion therapy” organization Exodus International,   apologized   to the LGBTQ community in 2013 after he acknowledged he was attracted to men. And just two months ago, Truth Wins Out exposed “ex-gay therapist”   Norman Goldwasser   after it allegedly discovered him soliciting men on gay dating apps.

Besen said “conversion therapy” programs give people false hope that they can be “cured” of being LGBTQ. “It’s a total and complete fraud from beginning to end,” he said.

As for Matheson, he denied accusations of fraud and said he’s currently pursuing a new career as well as a boyfriend.

“It’s a whole different world, and what really makes me happy about it is how congruent it feels to me now,” he explained. “It feels like I’m in the right place.”


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Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.    7 years ago

Are we what we are born? Sometimes you can't fight mother nature. 

 
 
 
epistte
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2  epistte    7 years ago

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.1  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  epistte @2    7 years ago

Sorry I missed this Epistte. I can take mine down if you want. 

 
 
 
epistte
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2.1.1  epistte  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1    7 years ago
Sorry I missed this Epistte. I can take mine down if you want. 

That isn't my thread. Its Hal A. Lulah's thread.   I just knew that it existed before because I also posted in it. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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3  Kavika     7 years ago

I wonder if now he'll be entering a ''conversion group''. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.1  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Kavika @3    7 years ago

I think he will know how to take it from here. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Silent
3.1.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1    7 years ago

From behind

and backwards

thinking, that proves yet bagain,

the ones crying n shouting the most about some alleged 'vice', r usually the  aloudest and allow just them.

Victors, and or Victims, whose guilt of what they were taught iz 'wrong',

being the allowedest heard, leading the herds against, 

while sitting on (literal) fence

posts, n joying it and them all the while.

.

im happy to be gay over this, as watchin these hypocrits squirm, really turns me off in the Biblical sense, 

butt, makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

.

i am a homoginized heterosexual that finds gratification in hypocrits frustaraton, admittedly more than 2%, less than hi in fibre low fat, as i skim upon knowthings, asz a Whole , milking the sweetness of what i bet, ix would/could dye fore,  as ive found those diabolically opposed to dyeAbetix, R

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i'm full of it 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4  Trout Giggles    7 years ago

At least he's living an honest life now

 
 
 
katrix
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4.1  katrix  replied to  Trout Giggles @4    7 years ago

Not that it will make up for all the people he's harmed.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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4.1.1  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  katrix @4.1    7 years ago

Opps... great minds, LOL!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Guide
4.2  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Trout Giggles @4    7 years ago

True enough. He did cause a lot of harm though.

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
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5  Phoenyx13    7 years ago
Matheson, who was married to a woman for 34 years and is now divorced, also confirmed in an interview with NBC News that he is now dating men.

it's much more common than some people think.

So-called gay conversion therapy, which is sometimes referred to as “ex-gay therapy” or “reparative therapy,” is a pseudoscientific practice that seeks to change a person’s sexual orientation or gender identity. Talk therapy is currently the most commonly used technique, but some practitioners have also combined this with "aversion treatments," such as induced vomiting or electric shocks, according to a 2018 report by UCLA’s Williams Institute (Matheson stressed he never participated in "aversion therapy"). Nearly every major health association, including the American Medical Association and the American Psychological Association, has denounced the practice.

and we have yet another example of those major health associations being correct - but it will fall on deaf ears as usual.

Matheson acknowledged his work has hurt some people, but he would not fully renounce “conversion therapy.” Instead, he blamed what he referred to as the “shame-based, homophobic-based system” of the Mormon church in which he was raised. He acknowledged that he perpetuated that system, but he also argued that he helped some men who wished to live “in congruence” with their faith.

wait... so it's not the religious based "conversion therapy" - it's just the religious system and religion itself ? ... oy.. that won't go over well with many members on NT

“I know there are people who won’t be satisfied by anything less than a complete and unequivocal renunciation of everything,” Matheson said. “That’s hard, because I want people to feel the genuineness of my change of heart, but people need to understand that there is more than one reality in the world.” To those who feel harmed by his past work, he relayed a message: “I unequivocally apologize.”

well it's a good thing he.. well.. sorta apologized.. but i wasn't aware that there is more than one reality.. i figured reality was the one and only - reality. Almost sounds like he's combining reality with "alternative facts" to come up with a new "reality"

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Phoenyx13 @5    7 years ago

Is he still a member of the Mormon church since he blames it for so much?

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
Sophomore Silent
5.1.1  Phoenyx13  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1    7 years ago
Is he still a member of the Mormon church since he blames it for so much?

from what little i could find - yes he is

but i don't know how reliable this source would be , it's just the only i found that mentions anything about him still being a Mormon or not . If you find something else - let me know :)

 
 
 
Ender
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6  Ender    7 years ago

You gotta fight, for your right, to....wait....what was he fighting for again?

 
 
 
epistte
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6.1  epistte  replied to  Ender @6    7 years ago
You gotta fight, for your right, to....wait....what was he fighting for again?

The right to be a religious bigot. It seems that he is willing to admit that he is gay but he isn't ready to leave the Mormon cult.

 
 
 
Ender
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6.1.1  Ender  replied to  epistte @6.1    7 years ago

I guess that takes party out of the equation. 

 
 
 
epistte
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6.1.2  epistte  replied to  Ender @6.1.1    7 years ago
I guess that takes party out of the equation. 

I have to wonder how many gay men will have much to do with him until he rejects reparative therapy, but there are likely a few who have the sexual morals of an alley cat or Donald Trump.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @6.1.1    7 years ago

Mormons like to party....with orange soda

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Silent
6.1.4  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.1.3    7 years ago
Mormons like to party....with orange so

much, that they blow bubbles

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out their nose

sumtymes

.

but inn thhere defense,

bubbles is kinda cute, and 

puts out, a lot to read.

I got married 3 times when inwas in nUtah, and i

found it mighty Bigomy , 

n

keeping with the seedy basis,

two were

too meny

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
7  Ed-NavDoc    7 years ago

That guy is one seriously confused individual...

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
7.1  evilone  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @7    7 years ago
That guy is one seriously confused individual...

Religion can do that to people.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
7.1.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  evilone @7.1    7 years ago

Yes it can.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Silent
7.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @7    7 years ago
That guy is one seriously confused individual

who me,

or the conversion doude ?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
7.2.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  igknorantzrulz @7.2    7 years ago

Sorry, the conversion guy.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Silent
7.2.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @7.2.1    7 years ago
Sorry, the conversion guy.

i would have went with both, but thank you for your usual courteous response.

We don't agree on much, but i do enjoy reading your takes on things 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
8  Thrawn 31    7 years ago

Man that guy is a douchebag. He can't just admit that he was wrong and apologize, he has to go and try to rationalize his shitty deeds away. 

 
 

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