President Trump Leads Multi-State Push For ‘Bible Literacy’ Classes In Public Schools
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Multiple states are considering the addition of optional Bible literacy classes, allowing students to study the historical importance of the Book.
One sponsor of the bill in North Dakota, Rep. Aaron McWilliams stated, “Yeah, there is a separation of church and state, but there’s not a separation of books from education…If we don’t have a good foundational understanding of this, we’re not going to understand how the Founding Fathers of our country and other countries put it together to have the world we have today,” according to Fox News .
North Dakota, being one of six states to propose this Bible bill, including Florida, Indiana, Missouri, Virginia, and West Virginia, got some positive attention from President Trump.
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Rep. McWilliams advocates for the Bible bill based off the fact that it had such an influence on how the Founding Fathers created our government. He references that our judicial system comes from Exodus 18 and the hierarchy of Judges. The moral codes that the country upholds come from the Bible, so the Book should be available as a possible history elective, according to McWilliams.
A proponent of other religious texts as possible classes, such as the Quran, Rep. McWilliams states, “without allowing a Bible into the schools, without allowing a Quran or any other religious text in the school, we look at establishing a religion of secularism in our schools.”
Facing backlash from those against the Bible bill, “State legislators should not be fooled that these bills are anything more than part of a scheme to impose Christian beliefs on public schoolchildren,” Rachel Laser, CEO of Americans United for Separation of Church and States said.
Not wasting an opportunity to slam President Trump for supporting the Bible bill, Laser stated:
While many critics seem to insinuate that the bill will be “forcing” students to take biblical classes, Rep. McWilliams highlights that these Bible literacy classes are to be taken as an optional elective for historical purposes. Schools have the option of providing these classes and students have the option of taking them.
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What ridiculous BS.
We have enough religious problems in America keep both the bible and the Koran the fiuck out of the schools.
Me thinks O donnys gears are slippin a little these days ....
Or is this just another trumped up distraction ?
Trump is pandering to his religious base who thinks that he looks weak because of his recent defeat by Nancy Pelosi.
So, just another trumped up distraction Got it.
Probably so, that's kinda what I figure as well.
Deny, delay, distract. Then do whatever ya want,
works for him time after time...
Hopefully for not much longer. The Trumps and crew are in for a whole lot of deserved legal hurt.
Trump's crew may be in for a whole lot of deserved legal hurt. I exspect trumpy to once again come out of a shit pile smellin like a rose to some.
With 3 different wives,
Jesus was very clear that divorce was wrong,
Pretty sure that all of his wives were screwing his much more handsome and potent friends.
I want to see genetic testing just to make sure that Donald's kids are even human.
Show us their birth certificates Donald! And while you're at it, show us yours.
And your financial records. Trust us, we'll understand them.
Pretty sure that the liar and thief's days are numbered.
Can a person who claims to be Christian do anything they want as long as they ask for forgiveness? Why do they need to ask for forgiveness when the Bible claims that God is omniscient
As I recall, god wasn't very fond of infidelity either.
Their god continues to create very fallible people who commit infidelity despite him being both omniscient and omnipotent. It just me but a person who has that power to create a better person and is yet so incompetent that he doesn't build a better person he is not someone that I would look up to for advice and leadership or worship.
Christians are worshipping an incompetent, psychopathic, ignorant, and shallow buffoon. I have just come to the conclusion that evangelicals are supporting Donald Trump because it would seem that he is a lot like their god.
“We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes.”
― Gene Roddenberry
Your god is a mass murderer. Won't be seeking his imaginary forgiveness for anything anytime soon.
Your god continues to make LGBT people, even though you claim he is both omniscient and omnipotent. Your mythical deity sounds like he is either a sociopath or he is incompetent. Why would you worship a person like that?
This is religious apologetic nonsense.
It's also an argument from ignornace.
absolutely they can ! it's the "get out of jail free card" - all they need to do is commit a sin of any nature, say they are "sorry" and ask for forgiveness then BOOM ! - all is forgiven and they can go to heaven and still sin again while on earth. (which many of them do repeatedly)
because God needs to know you are sorry ? which is weird since God would already know if you are sorry or not since God supposedly made you... so there'd be no need to constantly ask for forgiveness.
Silly epistte you know by now that bad = free will and good = god
just as interesting as those who believe in God can never seem to tell anyone exactly what He may or may not have done.
If their god claims to be both omniscient (all-knowing) and omnipotent ( all powerful) then they cannot also believe in free will because if God knows what they will do before they do it because he is omniscient then they don't have free will to act. If he is all powerful then he can control their behavior and as such his beings have no free will.
If he can control their behavior (god is omnipotent) then he cannot claim that their are sinful because he would not allow them to act in a way that is sinful.
QED; religious belief is illogical.
If you continue to commit sin then you cannot be sorry for your past actions, but evangelicals believe that as long as you are saved you can do what you want because they have god in their heart as the result of accepting him as their savior.
It's even worse that approximately 30% of the American public believes this nonsense and give 10% of their income to shysters who preach this idiocy. Logic is a foreign language in the US.
they are just not convinced - unless they are gnostic atheist (which i think is a stupid position since there is not 100% proof either way) - so that's why they ask for "proof" (look, mystery solved.. once again)
congratulations ?
just as amusing to watch arguments from believers about what God did or didn't do - but can't provide any proof that God actually did anything... they just convinced themselves God did since they have no other explanation (remember... "god works in mysterious ways" right ?)
exactly true and neither side can prove nor disprove 100%
me neither.
sure you can be sorry for committing that sin -- as long as you just commit a different sin next time
so it seems sometimes.
just as you have the freedom and ability to write those long posts - i have the freedom and ability to respond with long posts. I'm glad we agree
tsk tsk. Just when i thought we were making some progress, too. Did someone forget this already ?:
pay attention next time and we'll make some progress
He had no problem with impregnating a girl who was promised to another though did he.
Who cares? Your God sure has some silly hangups.
And he didn't even have the decency to buy her dinner first.
Your god never said anything about two guys in a sexual act.
What Jesus did say was that he wouldn't know [Deleted] You pretend you speak for God while advocating hatred. I hope for your sake that your God isn't as evil as you claim it is; otherwise [Deleted]
Yeah, well, the way I understand this "forgiveness" thingy is you have to ask God for it. When asked if he'd ever asked God for forgiveness, trmp straight up said he had nothing to be forgiven for....ever....in his whole life.
And you still lick the ground that he walks on....
Not even the courtesy of a reach around first either.
(blushes)..............I wasn't expecting that from you.
I scrolled through and read it and kept scrolling because I was convinced that I read it wrong and then came back and read it again slowly. Yep, she really did say "a reach around."
How rude, am I right?
Lighten up Francis.
The very basis of Christianity is hilarious - a virgin birth. It's a myth that was stolen from earlier myths.
Why is it so important to some folks to think that Mary didn't have sex, anyway? And if you suggest that if Jesus did exist, he would likely have been married and - gasp - had sex, they go ballistic. How would it change anything (other than to dispel the idea that women who aren't "pure" are somehow bad) if they did have sex?
You are happy with a full on frontal assault on the very basis of reality. No surprise there.
Try me.
Christians displaying a persecution complex as the slightest perceived slight. no surprise there either.
Obvious BS story is obvious!
Whether she had sex or not doesn't change the fact that she was supposedly knocked up by someone other than her husband. No amount of religious logic twisting covers that up.
He can push all he wants but it will have to include ALL religions then including satanism.
He's just sucking up to the faux christians that still lick his asshole
You're correct. The idiotic religious fanatics are the main base he has left, so he's trying to pander to them. Since he loves to violate his oath about upholding the Constitution, he has no problem trying to do this. Everyone knows he isn't a Christian except the evangelicals ... I guess once you distance yourself from reality that much, it's easy to take it a little farther and believe this lying asshole.
They are hypocrites one and all, remember these are the same people who constantly spewed Obama was a muslim. And now they worship at the altar of trump who is NO christian.
I have no problem in principle with offering an historical analysis of the world's religions (or at least the most common) or of the holy books of the world's religions. But strictly limiting this to the Bible is an obvious incrementalist tactic to teach Christianity in public schools.
They have no interest in a comprehensive critical survey course of the world's religions because that would not accomplish their goal of indoctrinating impressionable children with Protestant Christianity. What these people want is to use the public schools and taxpayer money for bible study, which is blatantly unconstitutional.
I agree.
The job of the government is not to create religious believers or to put people in the pews on Sunday, but instead, it is to be absolutely neutral on the issue of religion and religious belief. Public schools are not a place for churches or religions to evangelize to a captured and impressionable audience. It should not have to be said that the state is not to be supporting or endorsing any religious morality via legislation because doing so is a blatant violation of both religious clauses of the First Amendment. We cannot have equal secular and religious rights if the state is forcing people to live by the moral code of any religion.
Butt we both know that it's hard to win without at least faking a belief in Christianity.
Pretty sure that the best administrators are rational atheists that are "passing".
So, liars...
What are atheists lying about?
Did they claim to be Christians or did they just omit that idea? Why should a politician be a member of a church?
When was the last time that Donald Trump was in church, that was not part of his job?
will they show the loopholes?
So much for history.
would they be able to give an atheist a poor grade based on non belief?
Which Bible?
King James?
New International Version?
New American Bible? - this is the one the Catholics like
New Revised Standard Version?
Modern Literal Version?
New American Standard?
The Living Bible?
This is just a sampling of the Bibles that are out there
the fight over which Bible to use might be funny to watch
They're start thumping each other with their Bibles
What's really gonna be funny is watching these idiots try to prevent Muslims, Hindus etc from doing the exact same thing.
Yup. We already saw them lose their minds when a calligraphy teacher was having students copy a line from the Koran, can you imagine what they'll do when teachers are handing out Korans as study material?
Don't forget their guns.
I would like to submit my Book of Shadows as a text for classes in the public school system. Think that will "fly"?
You've got my vote, although I would like to see it taught in church instead
Now that sounds more interesting than the "Bible."
Especially if we get to turn somebody into a newt
You're sitting on a park bench and faintly hearing " help me...help meeee" and it's a fly with Trumps head in a web?
Only sickos my age will get this..
Always preferred the drunken Pagan orgies myself.
I guess I'm a sicko....LOL!
That might have been an elective I would have be interested in. Think of the parties the class could have enjoyed on Samhain, Yule, Imbloc, Beltane, and Mabon.
in reference to @9.2.1
As shown here in multiple ways this is a bad idea that is unpopular and unconstitutional. Go Trump!
I would say that maybe God wanted Obama to be President, but that would be impossible.
To most liberals, Obama IS their god.
I demand an immediate apology because I am a Pastafarian. In the absence of an apology, you will boil for your affront to the FSM. We have sous-vide technology so this punishment could last for eternity.
And then covered in marinara with a side of meatballs
That is why I go with Angel Hair (it doesn't take an eternity).
Weak.
Is Obama the topic?
Which is fuckin hilarious. The least godly man on the planet making a complete mockery of christians and their religion.
They'll create a new bible in Texas that will screw their brains up.
Too late.
This would actually be a good thing....present the bible coldly as a work of fiction by comparing it to actual history thus showing how it's historical accuracy is virtually nil. And there is a place for showing how it's been referenced one way or another in literature over the centuries. But, of course, this is just really just another way the vanishing extreme religious right hopes to keep imposing its religious views into the public sphere. Certainly, no elementary teacher would be qualified to do this in a truly academic way and almost none at the secondary level either.