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Turkey Venerates Its Violent Conquest of Christian Territory with Conversion of Hagia Sophia to a Mosque

  

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Via:  make-america-great-again  •  7 years ago  •  47 comments

Turkey Venerates Its Violent Conquest of Christian Territory with Conversion of Hagia Sophia to a Mosque
To quote Salih Turhan, head of the Anatolian Youth Association, a group that annually organizes mass demonstrations around Hagia Sophia: “As the grandchildren of Mehmet the Conqueror, seeking the re-opening Hagia Sophia as a mosque is our legitimate right.”

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It’s official : Turkey plans on converting the Hagia Sophia museum—for centuries, one of Christendom’s grandest basilicas—into a mosque.

Although President Erdoğan often tells Western/secular media that his decision is a sort of tit for tat—now a response to Israel’s treatment of Jerusalem’s Al Aqsa mosque, now a response to European resistance to more Muslim migrants—the true significance behind his desire to transform Hagia Sophia came out in March 31, 2019.

After reporting that “Turkey's president has recited an Islamic prayer in the Hagia Sophia, a historic Istanbul landmark that has become a symbol of interfaith and diplomatic tensions,” AP added that Erdoğan also dedicated his prayer to the “souls of all who left us this work as inheritance, especially Istanbul's conqueror.”

He is not alone in his desire to turn Hagia Sophia into a mosque as a way of venerating its jihadi conquerors; more than 97 percent of Turks surveyed said they want to see Hagia Sophia turned into a mosque, not because there is a dearth of places to pray—as of 2010, there were  3,000 active mosques in Istanbul alone —but to revel in the glory (that is, gory) days of jihad, and honor its practitioners.

To quote Salih Turhan, head of the Anatolian Youth Association, a group that annually organizes mass demonstrations around Hagia Sophia: “As the grandchildren of Mehmet the Conqueror, seeking the re-opening Hagia Sophia as a mosque is our legitimate right.”

In what follows, we revisit exactly what Mehmet (the Turkish pronunciation of “Muhammad”) did to prompt so many modern Turks, including their president, to honor him, including by transforming Hagia Sophia into a mosque. (All quotes in the following narrative are from primary sources, mostly eyewitnesses, and are documented in my recent book, Sword and Scimitar: Fourteen Centuries of War between Islam and the West ).

Hagia Sophia—Greek for “Holy Wisdom”—was built around 537 AD in Constantinople, the capital of the Eastern Roman Empire, which for nearly a millennium was a stalwart symbol of defiance against an ever encroaching Islam from the east.

After parrying centuries of jihadi thrusts , Mehmet sacked Constantinople on May 29, 1453, and turned Hagia Sophia into a mosque (until a then secularizing Turkey turned it into a museum in 1935).

Once inside the city, “The enraged Turkish soldiers . . . gave no quarter,” wrote an eyewitness:

When they had massacred and there was no longer any resistance, they were intent on pillage and roamed through the town stealing, disrobing, pillaging, killing, raping, taking captive men, women, children, old men, young men, monks, priests, people of all sorts and conditions…  There were virgins who awoke from troubled sleep to find those brigands standing over them with bloody hands and faces full of abject fury…  [The Turkish jihadis] dragged them, tore them, forced them, dishonored them, raped them at the cross-roads and made them submit to the most terrible outrages… Tender children were brutally snatched from their mothers’ breasts and girls were pitilessly given up to strange and horrible unions, and a thousand other terrible things happened. . .

Because thousands of citizens had fled to and were holed up in Hagia Sophia, it offered an excellent harvest of slaves once its doors were axed down.

“One Turk would look for the captive who seemed the wealthiest, a second would prefer a pretty face among the nuns. . . . Each rapacious Turk was eager to lead his captive to a safe place, and then return to secure a second and a third prize. . . . Then long chains of captives could be seen leaving the church and its shrines, being herded along like cattle or flocks of sheep.”

The slavers sometimes fought each other to the death over “any well-formed girl,” even as many of the latter “preferred to cast themselves into the wells and drown rather than fall into the hands of the Turks.”

Having taken possession of one of Christendom’s greatest and oldest basilicas—nearly a thousand years old at the time of its capture—the invaders “engaged in every kind of vileness within it, making of it a public brothel.” On “its holy altars” they enacted “perversions with our women, virgins, and children,” including “the Grand Duke’s daughter who was quite beautiful.” She was forced to “lie on the great altar of Hagia Sophia with a crucifix under her head and then raped.”

Next “they paraded the [Hagia Sophia’s main] Crucifix in mocking procession through their camp, beating drums before it, crucifying the Christ again with spitting and blasphemies and curses. They placed a Turkish cap . . . upon His head, and jeeringly cried, ‘Behold the god of the Christians!’” They “gouged the eyes from the [embalmed] saints” and dumped their corpses “in the middle of the streets for swine and dogs to trample on . . . and the images of our Lord Jesus Christ and His Saints were burned or hacked to pieces.”

Many other churches in the ancient city suffered the same fate. “The crosses which had been placed on the roofs or the walls of churches were torn down and trampled.” The Eucharist was hurled to the ground; holy icons were stripped of gold, “thrown to the ground and kicked.” Bibles were stripped of their gold or silver illuminations before being burned. “Icons were without exception given to the flames.” Patriarchal vestments were placed on the haunches of dogs; priestly garments were placed on horses.

“Everywhere there was misfortune, everyone was touched by pain” when Sultan Mehmet finally made his grand entry into the city. “There were lamentations and weeping in every house, screaming in the crossroads, and sorrow in all churches; the groaning of grown men and the shrieking of women accompanied looting, enslavement, separation, and rape.”

The sultan rode to Hagia Sophia, dismounted, and went in, “marveling at the sight” of the grand basilica. Like other churches that came under Muslim control—such as John the Baptist’s basilica, now the Great Mosque of Damascus—Hagia Sophia’s lot was not destruction but transformation into a mosque. After having it cleansed of its crosses, statues, and icons—the sultan himself knocked over and trampled on its altar—Mehmet ordered a muezzin to ascend the pulpit and sound “their detestable prayers. Then this son of iniquity [the sultan], this forerunner of Antichrist, mounted upon the Holy Table to utter forth his own prayers,” thereby “turning the Great Church into a heathen shrine for his god and his Mahomet.”

This, then, is what Turkey’s Muslims and president are proud of: the violent conquest of ancient Christian territory, and the atrocity-laden transformation of its greatest cathedral into a mosque; this is what they are eager to honor by turning Hagia Sophia into a mosque again. For make no mistake: if the average Westerner is clueless concerning the history of Hagia Sophia, every Turk is taught it in youth.

Openly idolizing Mehmet and doing what he did in his honor—retransforming Hagia Sophia into a mosque—as Erdoğan has decreed to the joy of many Turks, is tantamount to their saying, “We are proud of our ancestors who slaughtered, beheaded, enslaved and raped people and stole their lands simply because they were Christian infidels.”

Note: For more details on the siege and subsequent rape of Constantinople, see Chapter 7 of Sword and Scimitar .


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JBB
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2  JBB    7 years ago

Wow! Talk about your olde news. The Hagia Sophia became a mosque in 1453...

 
 
 
epistte
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2.1  epistte  replied to  JBB @2    7 years ago
Wow! Talk about your olde news. The Hagia Sophia became a mosque in 1453...

I was just going to mention that fact. The Hagia Sophia hasn't been a Christian church since the fall of the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire.

Most historians do agree that the Byzantine Empire terminated on Tuesday 29 May 1453 CE, when the Ottoman Sultan Mehmed II (r.1444-6 & 1451-81 CE) conquered Constantinople.
 
 
 
TᵢG
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3  TᵢG    7 years ago

I have been to the Hagia Sophia.   It looks like a mosque that has been converted into a museum (which is what happened).   Converting it from museum back to mosque is not much of a change.

Check out this video starting at 2:30.   This is not my video, but it shows what I saw.

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1  Ender  replied to  TᵢG @3    7 years ago

I don't know. I saw several Christian images. One starting at 2:51

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Ender @3.1    7 years ago

Yes, a lot of original Christian artwork is in the Hagia Sophia.   Also. a lot of the artwork is painted over (partially or fully).   And externally, the structure is adorned with minarets.  My point was that the Hagia Sophia was a mosque that was converted into a museum and the Islamic modifications to make it a mosque are quite visible.

Going back to a mosque will be easy.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.2    7 years ago

I would prefer it stay a museum too rather than waste it on yet another mosque.  Further, it is a UNESCO World Heritage site.  But Turkey is a sovereign nation who owns Hagia Sophia.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.4  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.2    7 years ago

Bring it up with Turkey then. They own it.

 
 
 
luther28
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3.1.5  luther28  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1.4    7 years ago

I like the simple answers Gordy :)

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.6  Gordy327  replied to  luther28 @3.1.5    7 years ago

Sometimes, simple is better

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.8  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.7    7 years ago

Meanwhile, the world keeps turning.

 
 
 
epistte
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3.1.9  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.7    7 years ago
That likely was the point of whoever wrote the seeded article. That and educating the west again as to the graphic circumstances of the fall of Constantinople to the Turks.  

The fall of Turkey back into the hands of religious fundamentalists instead if being ruled by a secular government that understands that keeping all religion and political power absolutely separate is the only way to create a stable and rational government for all people and not just those in power. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.11  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.10    7 years ago

For me, I would prefer that any historical temple, cathedral, church, synagogue or mosque that has evolved into a museum remain a museum.   

Also, if a sovereign nation owns an historical building I recognize their right to do with it as they please.   Even if I disagree with their actions.

For me, all religions (systems of faith) have the same fundamental problem for society — they encourage people to suppress critical thinking and follow the doctrine of the religion.

Now, I have different pros and cons depending upon the religion / denomination / sect.   I will share one very key difference that I see between the category of religions known as Christianity and those known as Islam.   The former has evolved over time and generally (not completely) represents contemporary mores and values.   The latter generally has not.   The former, for example, is far less repressive of women, is far less intrusive into the daily lives of people and has almost no facets executing apostates, mutilating female genitals to ensure fidelity and does not serve as the underlying doctrine which, when radicalized, represents the vast majority of brutal terrorism taking place today.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.12  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.10    7 years ago

Your persecution complex is showing again. Perhaps you should seek professional help with that.

 
 
 
epistte
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3.1.13  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.10    7 years ago
and if the roles were reversed and a Christian army captured a major Muslim capital city in that manner as graphically described in the seed atheists who hate Christianity and have a soft spot for Muslims would be for ever throwing it in our faces.  But since Islam did it to Christianity its “let’s move on, nothing to see here” instead.  

Wouldn't it be better to have a secular government with equal religious freedoms for all instead of a Christian government of which there is only a small minority?   Do you think that one religious group should have more political power or more civil rights than other religions/beliefs? 

Christianity in Turkey has had a long history dating back to the 1st-century AD. In modern times the percentage of Christians in Turkey has declined from 20-25 percent in 1914 to 3-5.5 percent in 1927, to 0.3-0.4% today

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.14  Gordy327  replied to  epistte @3.1.13    7 years ago
Wouldn't it be better to have a secular government with equal religious freedoms for all

Just like America. Absolutely it would be better.

 
 
 
epistte
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3.1.17  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.16    7 years ago

Turkey was better for it because they have gone downhill under the control of Erdogan. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.18  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.15    7 years ago

Classic case of denial too.

 
 
 
epistte
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4  epistte    7 years ago

The dome on the mosque/museum is dangerously unstable and could collapse with a very small earthquake. That possibility is likely because Istanbul sits on a moderately active fault line.

 
 
 
Ender
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4.1  Ender  replied to  epistte @4    7 years ago

That is sad but how could one make it stable without altering the structure.

 
 
 
epistte
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4.1.1  epistte  replied to  Ender @4.1    7 years ago

That inability is a natural feature of stone buildings that have no ability to bend with stress.  They

collapse when lateral force is applied instead of being able to flex like steel or wood do.

 The dome was reinforced with iron but iron doesn't  have much flex either. It's being held together now but it won't tolerate much additional force before it collapses catastrophically. There was a NOVA episode about it.

 
 
 
Ender
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5  Ender    7 years ago

So what if it is a mosque. As long as they keep it open to the public. Just like Notre Dame, one does not have to be Catholic to enjoy it.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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7  Perrie Halpern R.A.    7 years ago

Not a fan of Turkey, but this is not an issue. What is, is that our government doesn't recognize the Armenian genocide, because it isn't convenient for us.

 
 
 
Freefaller
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8  Freefaller    7 years ago

I am loathe to see that a museum is being turned into a religious building (I'd much rather that things went the opposite way), but that is what happens when religion gets a foothold in government and starts turning it away from secularism

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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9  Thrawn 31    7 years ago
Turkey Venerates Its Violent Conquest Of Christian Territory With Conversion Of Hagia Sophia To A Mosque

LOL!

 
 

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