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So the Inspector General Shot Down a Bunch of Trumpian Conspiracies But Also Ivanka Is Involved Now?

  

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Via:  tessylo  •  7 years ago  •  38 comments

By:   Esquire

So the Inspector General Shot Down a Bunch of Trumpian Conspiracies But Also Ivanka Is Involved Now?

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So the Inspector General Shot Down a Bunch of Trumpian Conspiracies But Also Ivanka Is Involved Now?






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From Esquire

In the House Judiciary Committee, Republicans pushed one of the Catch-22s at the heart of their arguments against the impeachment of Donald Trump, American president: the inquiry is only legitimate if it's bipartisan, but Republicans will never back the inquiry, so it will never be bipartisan. The Democratic counsels gave money to Democratic candidates, so the evidence they found is null and void. The Republicans didn't get to call their witnesses from the Trump Conspiracy Extended Universe, so the process was unfair.  We didn't hear from Fact Witnesses that the White House has blocked from testifying —another Catch-22—so all this evidence is hearsay. Republican Counsel Steve Castor also suggested Democrats didn't do enough to force those blocked witnesses to testify. That's a new one, and so was  Castor's declaration that Joe Biden is not a leading 2020 candidate , so why would Trump target him for investigation?

Across town, though, we were treated to the release of  the Justice Department Inspector General's report  on the origins of the Russia investigation. Trump and his allies have been banking on this one for some time, eagerly awaiting the damning conclusion that the Deep State set out to destroy him and trampled the law to do so. This is not what Inspector General Michael Horowitz found. While the report highlighted some systemic issues with how the government applies for warrants to surveil people under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act—issues that civil liberties organizations  like the ACLU  have drawn attention to for some time—it found the Justice Department and the FBI had adequate reason to open probes into George Papadopoulos, Carter Page, Michael Flynn, and Paul Manafort. In other words, they had reason to believe a crime had been committed or there was a threat to national security, and proceeded accordingly.

You may notice that this flies in the face of what Trump and his allies on Fox News and beyond have been saying for years. So here's what the president had to say on the report's release.


Just say anything. That has always been the motto of Trump's movement, which has seized on the siloed information environment in this country to design entire alternate realities for his supporters to inhabit. Dissenting voices need not apply. Negative information is Fake, positive information is Real.   Is it good for me, or is it bad for me?   The truth is not relevant. It doesn't exist. The truth is whatever you can get enough people to believe. Fox News will repeat your line, and no one will read the actual report.

The Attorney General of the United States seems to agree: he sent out  a press release  that, echoing his infamous Summary-Not-Summary of the Mueller Report, completely contradicted the IG report's actual findings. William Barr is working on a separate inquiry with U.S. Attorney John Durham, and Durham released  a letter  declaring that "we advised the inspector general that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions," though he did not offer much detail beyond that. Durham did say he has access to more information than Horowitz did, which  The New York Times   suggests refers to his "trips to meet with foreign intelligence officials overseas and to his examination of any role the C.I.A. played." We are really testing the limits of our system now, as the nation's most powerful law-enforcement figures travel the world to dig up something, anything to support the president's narrative.

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Meanwhile, we haven't even gotten to the most outrageous finding of the day, which involved Christopher Steele, the former head of the Russia desk at MI6. After leaving that post, Steele was hired in private practice to dig into Trump's connections to Russia. The report found Steele was actually in touch with—and on apparently good terms with—a member of Donald Trump's family for years before he started investigating the patriarch, and even took a meeting at Trump Tower in 2008. (Steele used this as proof he was actually "favorably predisposed" towards the Trumps before he began his work.)  ABC News  found that the family member in question was Ivanka Trump, who met Steele at a dinner party in 2007. For some reason, none of the Trumps mentioned this before.

Oh, and one more thing: the report found evidence that  plenty of FBI agents were solidly pro-Trump —or at least anti-Hillary. Yet the IG has demonstrated zero interest in looking into that side of things, even when  there is public evidence then-Trump surrogate Rudy Giuliani was plugged into the Bureau's New York office  during the campaign. There's also the small detail that the FBI's most critical intervention in the 2016 campaign was James Comey's announcement that The Email Probe was back open less than two weeks before Election Day. It's impossible to say definitively, but  there's a convincing argument  to be made that this was a definitive factor in the outcome. And yet, for years on end, we've been subjected to Trumpian yelling that the FBI was out to get  him  during the election, probably because the president has correctly assessed that if you say something loudly over and over again, the public—including the mainstream press—will eventually fold and accept it. Or at least report that you said it. Every time. Until it becomes True.












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Greg Jones
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2  Greg Jones    7 years ago

No, there never was enough credible evidence or reason to spy on American citizens hoping to find something

incriminating, simply because they might have talked to some Russian in passing. This whole investigation was

political in nature and was concocted by the Obama administration and its co-conspirators in the FBI and other agencies to try to find dirt on Trump.

Close inspection of the IG Report shows this conspiracy by Obama and his assorted thugs really did occur.

Now, Barr and Durham are starting to uncover the truth.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Greg Jones @2    7 years ago
Close inspection of the IG Report shows this conspiracy by Obama and his assorted thugs really did occur.

Obviously you haven't inspected it closely yet since that is not at all what it reveals. Those are the talking points hand fed to you by dishonest right wing pundits. The IG report showed there was a responsible, legal predicate for the investigation and the supposed "bias" of the agents went both ways while none of their bias appears to have effected the investigations in either direction.

You really would have to be an extreme moron to believe that some biased political "deep state" conspiracy was fomented against Trump and his campaign, as if a concerted effort by a group you claim to be so powerful failed to keep Trump out of the Presidency. If it was so all powerful and used illegal tactics to ruin Trump and his campaign, why did no one find out he was even under investigation until AFTER the election?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1    7 years ago
as if a concerted effort by a group you claim to be so powerful failed to keep Trump out of the Presidency.

And the American people and electoral system averted that. The populace overruled the elitists............and some STILL haven't gotten over that. They weren't as powerful as they would have wished. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.1    7 years ago
The populace overruled the elitists

You mean the majority who voted against Trump? The 66 million Americans who voted for Hillary or the 5 million who voted for 3rd party candidates are the "populace" you wrongly imagine "spoke" in the election. The 'populace' aka the 'majority'

Populace: noun - the people living in a particular country

71 million voted against Donald. The vast majority of Americans disapprove of the job he's done since being elected by the electoral college. America doesn't want Trump, though apparently with the 63 million who voted for the dishonest liar, the admitted sexual predator, he may be the President we deserve for not educating more of those Americans in civics and the constitution because if we had dirty Donald would never have been elected. So yes, Trump is the symptom of America leaving rural America behind. Most Americans moving forward aren't worried about those behind, they just expect them to keep up, but I suppose that was too much to ask of some so stuck in their ways.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.3    7 years ago
Doesn't matter one iota how many supported him or not.

Well, it does matter if you're trying to claim it was the "will of the American people" or that the "populace" that "overruled the elitists" when it clearly was not. Dishonest Donald won by the thinnest of margins, just 77,000 votes in three swing States out of 137 million votes. The people did not elect Trump, the electoral college system did. Therefore, there is no "public mandate" given the President, no "will of the majority" he can champion, he is the champion of the minority who elected him, that is all. He is such a tiny little wimp compared to the will of the majority which he will get a taste of in 2020 no matter how much his defenders and sycophants whine, cry and scream in the streets. There will be no second lightning strike in the same place, no thinnest margin win in his future. Only 5 times in US history has a President been elected solely by the electoral college, and that's including John Quincy Adams who was technically didn't have enough electoral votes to win but then congress voted to award him the Presidency. So while your claim that "every President is elected by the EC" is true, it certainly doesn't tell the whole story or even mention how unusual it was for Trump to win even when he lost the popular vote by more than 3 million.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.4    7 years ago

384

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.8  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.7    7 years ago

Trump will be one of only three ever impeached.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4  Just Jim NC TttH    7 years ago

To quote one of the fixtures at Newstalkers, Last I knew Ivanka wasn't running for POTUS.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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5  The Magic 8 Ball    7 years ago
So The Inspector General Shot Down A Bunch Of Trumpian Conspiracies

LOL

I guess waiting on today's hearing escaped them... 

ya may want to start from the beginning

have fun :)

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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6  Paula Bartholomew    7 years ago

The sooner his corrupt progeny gets put on the hot seat, the better.

 
 

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