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AG Barr Calmly Shapes C-4 Into the Image of Durham, Places It Under 'Nothing to See Here’ Take on IG Report

  

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AG Barr Calmly Shapes C-4 Into the Image of Durham, Places It Under 'Nothing to See Here’ Take on IG Report

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Attorney General Bill Barr gave NBC News an exclusive interview on Tuesday after the release of the Inspector General’s (IG) report on misconduct and lying by the FBI in its spying case against Donald Trump.

In his calm and fastidious fashion, Barr answered NBC News reporter Pete Williams’s questions about the IG Report with all the ease of a pat of butter in a warm frying pan.


Here are the big takeaways from Barr’s exclusive to NBC News:

    • Believes the predicate to start the “full-blown counterintelligence investigation” of the Trump campaign in the first place was “flimsy”
    • The FBI spied on the Trump campaign and believes that “this is the first time in history that… the use of these counterintelligence techniques [have been used] against a presidential campaign”
    • That “this campaign and administration has been dominated by this investigation that it turns out to be completely baseless”
    • “Inexplicable” that investigators talked to Russians before they ever talked to Trump campaign

Barr sometimes showed signs of exasperation and incredulity, especially about the conduct of FBI officers involved in spying on the Trump campaign. Take a breath because you might get lightheaded from all this straight talk from the nation’s top cop:

I think the big picture is this. From day one… of this investigation on July 31st, 2016, and all the way to its end in September 2017, there was not one bit of incriminatory evidence to come in. It was all exculpatory … So what happens? The FBI ignores it and presses ahead. Withholds… critical exculpatory information from the [FISA] Court while it gets an electronic surveillance warrant. It withholds from the Court clear-cut evidence that the dossier that they ultimately relied on to get the FISA warrant, was a complete sham. They hid information about the lack of reliability even the first time they went for a warrant but in January after the election, the entire case collapsed after the principal source says "I never told Steele this stuff." .. At that point, when their entire case collapsed, what do they do? They kept on investigating the president well into his administration… But here to me is the damning thing. They not only didn’t tell the court that what they were relying on was completely rubbish, they actually started putting in things to bolster the Steele report by saying, "Well, we talked to the sources and they appear to be truthful. But don’t inform the court that what they’re truthful about is that the dossier is false."

And now comes the investigation by U.S. Attorney John Durham and Barr says the Connecticut lawman has a completely different job than did the Inspector General.

Barr named four things Durham is looking into:

    • How the investigation got started.
    • “If the narrative that Trump being involved in the [election] interference actually preceded July and was, in fact, the precipitating trigger for the investigation.”
    • The conduct of the investigation that was not included in the IG Report.
    • The post-election investigation that continued after the FBI case had “collapsed.”

Williams asked if he still agreed that the Trump campaign had been spied on: “Oh, it was clearly spied upon. I mean, that’s what electronic surveillance is. I think wiring people up to go in and talk to people and make recordings of their conversations is spying. I think going through people's emails, which they did as a result of the FISA warrant" is spying.

Plus he shared a nugget about former FBI Director Comey’s refusal to sign back up “for his security clearance [so he] couldn’t be questioned about classified matters."

Barr said that the “irregularities, these misstatements, these omissions” by the FBI in its investigation “leaves open the possibility to infer bad faith.”

Watch the interview for yourself here:


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SteevieGee
Professor Silent
2  SteevieGee    7 years ago

If Barr had seen anything good for the President you can bet your last dollar that there would be 'something to see here'.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  SteevieGee @2    7 years ago

There's lots and lots to see Steevie...you just have to open your eyes and stop living in denial

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3  JohnRussell    7 years ago

If anyone was wondering if BF actually wrote the article at the top, the answer is no. It appears in PJ Media, a far right blog. 

Anything Barr says isnt worth the space it uses up. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
3.2  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @3    7 years ago
Anything Barr says isnt worth the space it uses up. 

DOJ IG Horowitz....right now....in the Senate judiciary committee hearing.....is backing up what Barr has said !

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
3.2.2  It Is ME  replied to  Release The Kraken @3.2.1    7 years ago
It should be noted that the left on this forum treasure the propaganda fed to them by the MSM who struggles to hide their flagrant bias and lack of journalistic integrity these days.

jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

Lindsey Graham is tearing holes in everything the House Democrats used to "Impeach" Trump right now !

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
3.2.4  It Is ME  replied to  Release The Kraken @3.2.3    7 years ago
3....2....1

But the new York Times says …………….. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
3.2.6  Ender  replied to  Release The Kraken @3.2.1    7 years ago

Haha   That is the biggest load of horse shit I have heard in a while.

Especially coming from people that post conspiracy theories.

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
3.2.7  It Is ME  replied to  Ender @3.2.6    7 years ago
Haha   That is the biggest load of horse shit I have heard in a while.

Did the MSM tell you to say that ?

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
3.2.8  It Is ME  replied to  Release The Kraken @3.2.5    7 years ago
Yeah the New York Times was also pro Hitler prior to WWII. Ooops.

YIPPERS ! 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
3.2.10  Ender  replied to  It Is ME @3.2.7    7 years ago

It was the deep state. The big bad invisible boogie man to the right.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
3.2.12  Ender  replied to  Release The Kraken @3.2.9    7 years ago

What in the world does that have to do with the comment I responded to.

Nothing....

I responded to your quote 1.2.1

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
3.2.13  Ender  replied to  Release The Kraken @3.2.11    7 years ago

Says the guy that runs when presented with facts.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
3.2.15  Ender  replied to  Release The Kraken @3.2.14    7 years ago

I have seen it many times. When challenged, hide for a while or move on to something else.

I just have to know...when did you become a trumper?

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
3.2.16  It Is ME  replied to  Ender @3.2.10    7 years ago
It was the deep state. The big bad invisible boogie man to the right.

Lindsey Graham hasn't been refuted by the Dems on the Senate Judiciary Committee..... yet ! jrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
3.2.18  It Is ME  replied to  Release The Kraken @3.2.17    7 years ago
The Chicom colluding corpse senator Dianne Feinstein made her moonbat talking points.

Maybe the points actually did come from her "Old" Driver. 

Has anybody looked into if she still stays in touch ? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4  JohnRussell    7 years ago

" TRUMP on the IG report: " This was an overthrow of government, this was an attempted overthrow -- and a lot of people were in on it." ( Trump was a private citizen when the Russia investigation began.)"

How do people support a moron like Donald Trump?   Do you , in the end, have no self-respect ? 

Trump is not a victim of anything, he is a plague, ... the victims are truth, common sense, and decency. 

Just look at Ted Cruz. Trump called his wife a dog and said his father helped assassinate President Kennedy. In 2016 Cruz called Trump mentally ill, I think he used the word psychotic or psychopathic. Today Cruz licks Trumps boots. 

How can "independents" like the seeder claims to be, give support to Trump? 

Well, they aren't really independent, are they? 

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
4.2  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @4    7 years ago
TRUMP on the IG report: This was an overthrow of government,

The Senate judiciary Committee... is proving that to be true as I post !

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  It Is ME @4.2    7 years ago

Cruz: “A lawyer at the FBI creates fraudulent evidence, alters an email that is in turn used as the basis for a sworn statement to the court that the court relies on. Am I stating that accurately?"

Horowitz: "That's correct. That's what occurred"

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
4.3  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @4    7 years ago

[deleted meta]

Barr and Durham represent us, the good and patriotic citizens of America, not Trump.

They follow the Law, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights, [deleted sweeping gen]

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @4.3    7 years ago
Barr and Durham represent us, the good and patriotic citizens of America, not Trump.

Thats a false sweeping generalization [Deleted]

 
 
 
lady in black
Professor Silent
5  lady in black    7 years ago

Barr is a partisan hack working for Crooked donnie, when he is supposed to be working for WE the People

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
5.2  Greg Jones  replied to  lady in black @5    7 years ago

He's no more partisan than Holder or Lynch.

He's working for all the people, so we can get to the bottom of this scandal perpetrated by the Obama administration.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7  Sean Treacy    7 years ago

Barr sums it up wonderfully.

Three years the left and MSM has pushing a lie upon the American people, and the more pathetic members of those groups continue to do so. After three years, billions of dollars of media exposure , countless false stories and outright lies  we know after these investigations:

There was no coordination between Russia and the Trump campaign. None.

The FBI opened an investigation into a politician because a drunk, low level campaign staffer said the same thing  in a bar that pundits were saying on national tv.

The FBI spied on the Trump campaign

The FBI presented false information to the FISA Court to spy on on an American citizen

The FBI withheld exculpatory information from the FISA court justify it's spying

The FBI presented forged documents to the FISA Court to justify it's spying.

The Democratic leader of the House intelligence Committee presented a reported to the American people containing numerous lies about the Page  FISA process

etc.etc.

Three years of lies from the Democrats and media, and the true progressive moon bats continue spreading the lies to this day despite the Mueller report. Despite the IG report.  We can't have a democracy when the left wing of this country simply parrots conspiracy theories with no basis in reality. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
8  bbl-1    7 years ago

To cut to the chase here.  Barr has inserted himself into the position of being Trump's--Roland Freisler.

All of this is for protection of Russian oligarch money.  Question is, why?  This is the bottom line.  All roads somehow seem to lead to Putin with this president.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
Junior Quiet
8.2  KDMichigan  replied to  bbl-1 @8    7 years ago
All of this is for protection of Russian oligarch money.  Question is, why? 

You would have to ask Hillaryious Hillary. 

 
 
 
lady in black
Professor Silent
8.2.1  lady in black  replied to  KDMichigan @8.2    7 years ago

but-but-hillary.jpg

 
 
 
KDMichigan
Junior Quiet
8.2.2  KDMichigan  replied to  lady in black @8.2.1    7 years ago

You hear the old hag is at the top of the democrat polls?

Freaking Hillaryious

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
9  The Magic 8 Ball    7 years ago
  • The FBI spied on the Trump campaign and believes that “this is the first time in history that… the use of these counterintelligence techniques [have been used] against a presidential campaign”

that was the first and last time progressives had total control of the system.

paybacks will be a bitch.

but first there will be a year of digging into this BS

this is not the end of anything except the lefts bs.

other than that, this is just the beginning

 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @9    7 years ago

Kennedy says after reading 15% of report, it made him want to heave. After 25%, he felt like he was dropping acid. Couldn't believe how bad it was. Horowitz agrees!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
9.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1    7 years ago

Wray should be fired. 

Per the IG, the agent who misled the FISA court about Page's prior cooperation with the CIA is still working at the FBI, along with other agents cited for misconduct.

Who can possibly trust the FBI after this?  

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
9.1.4  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1    7 years ago
Couldn't believe how bad it was. Horowitz agrees!

horowitx also said (paraphrased) he could not actually prove bias or lack thereof because the people he investigated would not admit it or did not write it down. 

durham report is not expected until when? spring or summer of next year ?  I heard that somewhere... I think barr said that but I could be wrong.

either way the next year will be fun enough :)

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @9.1.4    7 years ago
horowitx also said (paraphrased) he could not actually prove bias or lack thereof because the people he investigated would not admit it or did not write it down.

I guess a law degree can affect common sense. Who knew?


durham report is not expected until when? spring or summer of next year ?  I heard that somewhere... I think barr said that but I could be wrong.

I'm saying a prayer that it is finished and delivered in October.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
9.1.6  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.5    7 years ago
I'm saying a prayer that it is finished and delivered in October.

I say finish in the summer, have some trials in the spring and sentencing next winter.

 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.8  Vic Eldred  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @9.1.6    7 years ago

I prefer the finished Report in October before the election. Thereafter we can watch the convictions, prosecutions and maybe one might get drawn & quartered!

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
9.1.9  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.8    7 years ago
watch the convictions, prosecutions

just that will take a few months.. nothing happens that fast in dc

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
10  Nerm_L    7 years ago

The Horowitz report highlighted that Paul Manafort was under investigation for activities in Ukraine before the 'Russian collusion' allegations were made.  Manafort was subsequently convicted for financial and tax violations related to activities in Ukraine.  The source of information concerning Paul Manafort was the Ukrainian government.  Paul Manafort's involvement in the Trump campaign was the red flag; George Papadopoulos and Carter Page were only excuses.

The allegations of collusion between Trump and Russia originated with the Ukrainian government.  The Ukrainian government was feeding information (or disinformation) to the Clinton campaign as opposition research for the purpose of damaging the Trump campaign.  

Hillary Clinton and Ukraine - Wall Street Journal

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire - Politico

The assumption that Ukraine wasn't capable of hacking into the DNC computer network is misguided.  Ukraine ranks among the top 10 countries for cyber crime.  In fact, stealing intellectual property and copyright infringement wasn't considered illegal in Ukraine until recently.  Ukraine is home to some of the most sophisticated and capable cyber criminals.  

Ukraine: A Cyber Safe Haven? (link opens a PDF)

Ukrainian Man Pleads Guilty In One Of Biggest U.S. Cybercrime Cases - Radio Free Europe

Ukraine has been at the center of the controversy from the beginning.  What is most alarming is how political Washington and the Washington bureaucracy has been white washing Ukraine's involvement.  If there is a conspiracy then Kiev is ground zero, not Moscow.  Russia's involvement (or meddling) in the 2016 election wasn't any different than in prior elections.  The new meddler in US elections was Ukraine.  Why is everyone trying to hide that fact?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
10.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Nerm_L @10    7 years ago

After watching several renditions of the Dianne Feinstein version of the Horowitz testimony I'm convinced that we are not being fully informed, even by Michael Horowitz..

Horowitz did not find political bias influenced the FBI's opening of the investigation into the Trump campaign.  Political bias within the context of the report is really about partisan bias.  So, the initiation of the investigation wasn't because the FBI favors Democrats or Republicans.  Big whoop, that's not an earth shaking revelation.

Horowitz also cites errors and omissions during the course of the investigations and in court filings.  But these instances aren't mistakes; the errors and omissions served a specific purpose.  While characterizing these instances as errors and omissions is rather benign, the reality is that these are instances of deliberate misbehavior and misconduct.  Since Horowitz presents these instances in a benign manner the motivations for deliberate misbehavior and misconduct are not addressed.

The FBI was not incompetent or sloppy as Horowitz suggests.  The FBI was motivated to deliberately engage in misbehavior and misconduct.  The unanswered question is what were the motivations for misbehavior and misconduct?

The FBI may well have been politically motivated to influence policy making by undermining the authority of an elected President to make policy decisions.  The FBI may well have been politically motivated to protect the status quo and used whatever means to accomplish that end.  Horowitz's assertion that there isn't a 'deep state' really doesn't withstand moderate scrutiny.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
10.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Nerm_L @10.1    7 years ago
The FBI was not incompetent or sloppy as Horowitz suggests

As Kevin Williamson wrote:

"Imagine an investigation of racial bias in a bank, with investigators discovering a long series of serious errors and departures from ordinary standards and practices, violations of business norms, etc., not by a single loan officer but by three separate business units overseen by the highest levels of management — with all of those errors disadvantaging African-American mortgage borrowers. Would we need texts and emails documenting active racial bias on the part of the bankers to conclude that there was racial bias at play? If we found that a police department had violated its own standards on a regular basis in its treatment of African-American suspects but uncovered no texts or emails documenting racial intent, would we be satisfied that no racial bias existed?"

The idea that FBI agents are this incompetent simply doesn't fly.  This isn't Mayberry RFD.  Almost all involved are lawyers and are at the top of their profession, yet we are supposed to believe they made a series of massive mistakes (and some intentional acts of wrongdoing ) that all just happened to work against Trump.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
11  Sean Treacy    7 years ago

Even Matt Taibbi, about as far left as any journalist, admits what a disaster this was for the FBI:

                  If the report released Monday by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowi tz constitutes a “clearing” of the FBI, never clear me of anything. Holy God, what a clown show the Trump-                                         Russia  investigation was....

          Horowitz describes at great length an FBI whose “serious” procedural problems and omissions of “significant information” in pursuit of surveillance authority all fell in the direction of expanding the                     unprecedented investigation of a presidential candidate (later, a president).  

         

          The Steele report reads like a pile of rumors surrounded by public information   pulled off the Internet , and the Horowitz report does nothing to dispel this notion.

          At the time the FBI submitted its first FISA application, Horowitz writes, it had “corroborated limited information in Steele’s election reporting, and most of that was publicly available information.”                         Horowitz  says of Steele’s reports: “The CIA viewed it as ‘internet rumor.’”

         Worse (and this part of the story should be tattooed on the heads of Russia truthers), the FBI’s interviews of Steele’s sources revealed Steele embellished the most explosive parts of his report. 

       

         Steele in his “reports” embellished his sources’ quotes, played up nonexistent angles, invented attributions, and ignored inconsistencies. The FBI then transplanted this bad reporting in the form of a                   warrant application and an addendum to the Intelligence Assessment that included the Steele material, ignoring a new layer of inconsistencies and red flags its analysts uncovered in the review process.

         Then, following a series of leaks, the news media essentially reported on the FBI’s wrong reporting of Steele’s wrong reporting.

         The impact was greater than just securing a warrant to monitor Page. More significant were the years of headlines that grew out of this process, beginning with the leaking of the   meeting with Trump                  about Steele’s blackmail allegations , the   insertion of Steele’s conclusions   in the Intelligence Assessment about Russian interference, and the leak of news about the   approval of the Page FISA warrant .         

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
11.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sean Treacy @11    7 years ago

The FBI then transplanted this bad reporting in the form of a warrant application and an addendum to the Intelligence Assessment that included the Steele material, ignoring a new layer of inconsistencies and red flags its analysts uncovered in the review process.

Then, following a series of leaks, the news media essentially reported on the FBI’s wrong reporting of Steele’s wrong reporting.

This would explain why CNN and other left wing outlets have avoided reporting on the IG's testimony today. This is almost as much a media scandal as it is an FBI one.  Their conduct as partisans has been inexusable for years, the IG just explained how badly they lied to the American people in propping up and aiding  liars like Schiff as they misled the American people. 

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
12  The Magic 8 Ball    7 years ago
The Obama administration opened a counter intelligence investigation with one purpose, spy and stop the opposition political campaign. Hillary Clinton paid a foreign agent to collect disinformation from other foreign governments to include Russia. That seems to be the only collusion found in the last three years. After the election they used the investigation to attempt to remove a duly elected US president from office. 

been saying that since early 2017 

nothing can stop what's coming.

2020 and beyond will be amazing  :)

 

 
 

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