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Trump Bravely Affirms Framers, Religion, and Life

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  donald-j-trump-fan-1  •  6 years ago  •  115 comments

By:   Stephen B Presser

Trump Bravely Affirms Framers, Religion, and Life
The progressives now dominating one of our political parties, the Democrats, see the abortion question as an assertion of a woman’s control over the functions of her own body, but many Americans, and perhaps, at this point in our history, the majority of Republicans, believe that to terminate a pregnancy is to take an innocent human life, something that no one has a right to do. The two views are obviously incompatible.

Trump is right. Human life, the pre born infant is a mighty creation in the image of almighty God.  Trumps reliance on and comments regarding our founding and the founders ideals is right on.  


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In the midst of the most unfair and unjustified impeachment ever brought against a president, Donald Trump gave perhaps the strongest and bravest speech of his political career.

Even as Mr. Trump became the first president ever to be impeached in the complete absence of any crimes being charged against him — which flies in the face of the Constitution’s requirement that impeachable offenses consist of "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors" — he nonetheless, on Jan. 24, became the first U.S. president ever to attend and speak at the annual  March for Life .  

The March for Life is a gathering of many thousands in the nation’s capital on the anniversary of the notorious Supreme Court decision in  Roe v. Wade , 410 U.S. 113 (1973).

That decision, the most arbitrary act of judicial legislation in our nation’s history, essentially declared that somewhere in the "penumbras and emanations" of constitutional provisions could be found a purported right to terminate incipient human life in the womb, a right that many progressives think ought to be extended to any time before the actual birth of an infant.

The progressives now dominating one of our political parties, the Democrats, see the abortion question as an assertion of a woman’s control over the functions of her own body, but many Americans, and perhaps, at this point in our history, the majority of Republicans, believe that to terminate a pregnancy is to take an innocent human life, something that no one has a right to do.

The two views are obviously incompatible.

In our republic, the way such intractable matters have been solved has been through the legislative, not the judicial process. This is why the Constitution actually leaves such matters to the state legislatures, and this is why the late Antonin Scalia, dissenting in the 1992  Planned Parenthood v. Casey , 505 U.S. 833 (1992) decision (affirming Roe v. Wade),  stated  to his fellow justices that, "We should get out of this area, where we have no right to be, and where we do neither ourselves nor the country any good by remaining."

The annual March for Life is best understood as an expression by Americans who share Scalia’s view, and who, moreover, seek to persuade their fellow Americans that the Court made a dangerous and unconscionable error in that 1973 decision.

This is certainly the most divisive issue in American culture, politics, and law, and the president made it clear where he stood. "We are here," he  said , "for a very simple reason: to defend the right of every child, born and unborn, to fulfill their God-given potential."

There are those who believe sincerely that it is wrong for any public official, much less any president, to take a stand on a public policy based on religion, because they maintain that there ought to be a clear separation of church and state.

It's true that the  First Amendment  to the Constitution does provide that Congress is prohibited from dictating an "establishment of religion," but what the Framers’ meant by that was simply that there would be no creation of a national church, as had been true in England.

This was not supposed to be an atheistic nation, and, indeed, John Adams, our second President  stated  in 1798 that "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." Similarly, Samuel Chase, an early Supreme Court justice — one who, like Trump, was himself later to be the subject of an unfair impeachment —  told  a grand jury in 1802 that there could be "no political happiness without liberty, that there can be no liberty without morality, and that there can be no morality without religion."

President Trump firmly placed himself in the camp of Adams and Chase. "When we see the image of a baby in the womb," he said, "we glimpse the majesty of God's creation."

The president acknowledged, however, that not all Americans shared his views or those of the marchers, "Sadly, the far left is working to erase our God-given rights, shut down faith-based charities, ban religious leaders from the public square, and silence Americans who believe in the sanctity of life."

As he closed his speech the President made clear where he stood, "And above all, we know that every human soul is divine and every human life, born and unborn, is made in the holy image of Almighty God."

With those words Mr. Trump underscored what is at stake with his trial for impeachment and the upcoming election this November, This country is in the midst of an historic choice — whether to reaffirm the belief of the Framers that providence still guides this nation, or whether to cede power to those who spurn that view and the president who supports it.


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The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
2  The Magic 8 Ball    6 years ago
ban religious leaders from the public square, 

Do not let anyone claim tribute of American patriotism if they even attempt to remove religion from politics. ~George Washington

 
 
 
Dig
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2.3  Dig  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2    6 years ago
Do not let anyone claim tribute of American patriotism if they even attempt to remove religion from politics. ~George Washington

FYI - That's a fake quote. You won't find it in any of his writings.

Google it and you will find this, though (from 2006) - No appropriate quote? Just make one up!

Now, with the speed of transferring false information across the web, new quotes are being fabricated by unknown liars and making their way across the web in emails and message board postings. The most recent example of a widespread bogus quotation being accepted is the following:

"Do not let any one claim to be a true American if they ever attempt to remove religion from politics."
-- falsely attributed to George Washington

This quote, unlike the quotes above, was not apparently fabricated by Barton (although the actual liar who made this one up is unknown at this time) and has only appeared on the web. There is no citation for this quote and it appears nowhere in any of Washington's writings or speeches, yet it is now being cited in message board postings, emails, and is even showing up on bumper stickers.

IT IS A LIE AS WASHINGTON NEVER EVER SAID IT OR WROTE IT!

This sort of fallacious crap being passed off as truth is yet another example of a lying religious right. They cannot support their position with the truth, so they resort to lying.

That article was from 14 years ago. Apparently, fake crap on the internet has a long shelf life.

I do want to thank you, though. It made me go on a quote hunt and I ended up re-reading George Washington's Farewell Address, which contains an eerily accurate warning pertaining to our present situation - the stuff on factions, of which here's a quick sample (boldface mine, last two paragraphs):

[...] This Government, the offspring of our own choice, uninfluenced and unawed, adopted upon full investigation and mature deliberation, completely free in its principles, in the distribution of its powers, uniting security with energy, and containing within itself a provision for its own amendment, has a just claim to your confidence and your support. Respect for its authority, compliance with its laws, acquiescence in its measures, are duties enjoined by the fundamental maxims of true liberty. The basis of our political systems is the right of the people to make and to alter their constitutions of government. But the constitution which at any time exists till changed by an explicit and authentic act of the whole people is sacredly obligatory upon all. The very idea of the power and the right of the people to establish government presupposes the duty of every individual to obey the established government.

All obstructions to the execution of the laws, all combinations and associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, control, counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the constituted authorities, are destructive of this fundamental principle and of fatal tendency. They serve to organize faction; to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put in the place of the delegated will of the nation the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community, and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to snake the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of faction rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans, digested by common counsels and modified by mutual interests.

However combinations or associations of the above description may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things to become potent engines by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people, and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.

Hmm..."with the real design to direct, control, counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the constituted authorities"; subversion by a "cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled" man. Stooge by stooge, institution by institution.

It's as if Washington had a crystal ball.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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2.3.1  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Dig @2.3    6 years ago
FYI - That's a fake quote. You won't find it in any of his writings.

I am guessing it was paraphrased from his farewell address.

Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism,

have a great day :)

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.3.2  Split Personality  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2.3.1    6 years ago

Then you should not have presented it as a quote.

It's really that simple.

Cheers jrSmiley_4_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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2.3.3  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.2    6 years ago
Then you should not have presented it as a quote

there is a lot of things I should do to make liberals happy...

guess what?  not interested.   if the left was a smart as they think they are they would have known it was paraphrased on their own without me telling them and realized the sentiment expressed stands no matter how it is said.

remove religion from politics = not a patriot

end of discussion.

cheers :)

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
3  bbl-1    6 years ago

Wow!  Trump affirms.  Nothing left to say, he's made the call.  His hand is shown.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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4  Paula Bartholomew    6 years ago

Yet Trump has that witch Paula roaming the halls of the WH spouting about God terminating "satanic" pregnancies.  As far as him attending the march, it is election time and these events are how candidates stump for votes.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
4.1  bbl-1  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @4    6 years ago

Paula White walks in The Shadow of The Deceiver.

 
 
 
katrix
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4.2  katrix  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @4    6 years ago

Marla Maples must be shaking her head.

How are these religious people gullible enough to fall for this? Most of the religious people I know aren't actually that stupid, but clearly many people are.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Silent
4.2.1  bbl-1  replied to  katrix @4.2    6 years ago

It is a cult based on fear, want and avarice.

 
 
 
katrix
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4.2.2  katrix  replied to  bbl-1 @4.2.1    6 years ago
It is a cult based on fear, want and avarice.

That is so true.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.2.3  Gordy327  replied to  bbl-1 @4.2.1    6 years ago

Don't forget ignorance. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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4.2.5  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Gordy327 @4.2.3    6 years ago

Don't forget ignorance. 

Yea, what You said.

 
 
 
katrix
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5  katrix    6 years ago

Bravely? What's so brave about lying to the American people? Immoral Trump idolaters love lies, so it doesn't take any bravery to lie to them.

Was it brave when he wanted Marla Maples to get an abortion? Was it brave when he brought his mistress and wife to the same ski resort at the same time?

I'm so glad I'm not as immoral as some of these religious people. I almost wish there were a heaven, so I could see the look on their faces when they're turned away. After all, Jesus clearly warned them that he wouldn't know them.

 
 
 
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7  Thrawn 31    6 years ago
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