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Ex-Antifa member slams Nadler for calling far-left group 'imaginary': 'That's just false'

  

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Via:  kdmichigan  •  5 years ago  •  120 comments

By:   Victor Garcia (Fox News)

Ex-Antifa member slams Nadler for calling far-left group 'imaginary': 'That's just false'
Gabriel Nadales, a former member of Antifa, responded on "The Ingraham Angle" Friday to House Judiciary Committee chairman Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., calling the group "imaginary" earlier this week.

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Former Antifa member responds to Rep. Jerry Nadler's claim that radical group is 'imaginary'


Gabriel Nadales, former Antifa member, responds on 'The Ingraham Angle.'

Gabriel Nadales, a former member of Antifa, responded on "The Ingraham Angle" Friday to House Judiciary Committee chairman Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., calling the group "imaginary" earlier this week.

"That's just false," Nadales said of Nadler's claim. "I mean, the only thing that's imaginary here is Representative Nadler's sense of justice. I mean, the protests I attended ... weren't imaginary. Also, the windows that I regrettably broke, they weren't imaginary.

"Yet every single time that we have left-wing politicians ... that deny and ignore and even justify Antifa violence, it's only going to continue to grow."

Nadler made the claim Thursday during a debate in the House on Democrats' proposed police reform legislation.

"They couldn't utter the phrase 'black lives matter' and could barely [broach] the subject of police reform," Nadler said of House Republicans. "Instead, their amendments ... were errant nonsense, off-topic, dealing with imaginary things like Antifa and completely negating the entire purpose of the bill."

Nadales told "Ingraham Angle" host Tammy Bruce he was "indoctrinated" before he joined Antifa by Spanish-language media and his teachers to believe "America was my enemy, not because America rejected me, but because I kept being told that I was a victim."

"Thankfully, I started asking questions about this movement. And then, really I ... got the information that I needed and I realized that being part of it was something that I should've never been part of," Nadales said. "And now I'm glad that I'm condemning it. But one thing to remember is, where is Antifa really coming from? Because Mr. Nadler thinks that it's imaginary. Well, it's coming, oftentimes, from college campuses."

Nadler's comment on the House floor Thursday drew an angry response from Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, the Judiciary Committee's top Republican.

"They're not imaginary, they're real ..." Jordan said. "To have the chair of the Judiciary Committee, on the House floor, say ... these words ... 'imaginary things like Antifa.' They are far from imaginary. And there are people in every major city in this country who know that and yet the chair of the Judiciary Committee just made that statement. That is scary."

Fox News' Nick Givas contributed to this report.


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KDMichigan
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1  seeder  KDMichigan    5 years ago

Nadler joins the list of left wing cucks and apologist that claim ANTIFA doesn't exist, Hillaryious.

You go ANTIFA. Burn them liberal shitholes down.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  KDMichigan @1    5 years ago
claim ANTIFA doesn't exist

ANTIFA is just an acronym for a loosely associated group of anarchists and unaffiliated anti-fascists who appear to like punching Nazi's and occasionally vandalizing property.

They are not a political party or even a measurable movement. They are not affiliated with any political party except in the minds of partisan morons and the fascists they're punching in the face.

Anti-fascists exist as do anti-communists, but "ANTIFA" does not exist as any actual discernable group with verified members, just self-anointed anti-fascists who claim to be "chapter" Presidents like some loosely affiliated gang.

I do not condone ANTIFA, they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for any crimes they commit, and thankfully they have not killed anyone. They cannot, however, be put in the same classification as right wing extremists that murder dozens and dozens of Americans annually and are obviously the far more deadly domestic terror threat.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1    5 years ago
I do not condone ANTIFA, they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for any crimes they commit, and thankfully they have not killed anyone. They cannot, however, be put in the same classification as right wing extremists that murder dozens and dozens of Americans annually and are obviously the far more deadly domestic terror threat.

Can you be sure they haven't killed anyone...how do you know for sure. And do you have anything to support your claim about so called right wing extremists?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
1.1.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.2    5 years ago
Can you be sure they haven't killed anyone...how do you know for sure.

First, one would have to provide evidence that ANTIFA has any actual members, not just the loosely associated anarchist groups that come out with masks to punch Nazi's and fascists. If that was proved and there was any evidence of an ANTIFA member killing anyone it would be plastered all over the news and repeated by this dumb fuck President hourly. So that's how I know for sure that so far, the opportunistic anarchists haven't killed anyone. Apparently someone got stabbed by a supposed member, but then anyone anywhere who wants to claim association with name ANTIFA just claim membership without having to actual become a member of any group.

And do you have anything to support your claim about so called right wing extremists?

Yes, and have posted it many times so it's shocking you're not aware of all the right wing violence in this country. Perhaps the right wing news you watch avoids discussing it because it hits too close to home for many of their right wing loyalists.

" Right-wing extremists were linked to at least 50 extremist-related murders in the United States in 2018 , making them responsible for more deaths than in any year since 1995"

" Domestic right-wing terrorist groups often adhere to the principles of racial supremacy and embrace antigovernment, antiregulatory beliefs. Generally, extremist right-wing groups engage in activity that is protected by constitutional guarantees of free speech and assembly."

" On the national level, formal right-wing hate groups, such as the National Alliance, the World Church of the Creator (WCOTC) and the Aryan Nations, represent a continuing terrorist threat"

" Right-wing groups continue to represent a serious terrorist threat. Two of the seven planned acts of terrorism prevented in 1999 were potentially large-scale, high-casualty attacks being planned by organized right-wing extremist groups."

" Since 9/11, white supremacists and other far-right extremists have been responsible for almost three times as many attacks on U.S. soil as Islamic terrorists , the government reported. From 2009 through 2018, the far right has been responsible for 73% of domestic extremist-related fatalities"

It really does amaze me when we have SO much evidence of right wing terror and fucking Nazi's marching in our streets chanting "Jews will not replace us!" and yet still, sniveling right wing apologists come out to defend and deflect while attacking left wing groups that have no such blood on their hands.

If anyone is still in denial about the threat of right wing extremists, perhaps one should ask themselves why they doubt the mountains of evidence. Is it perhaps because they have a soft spot for bigots and white supremacists? Do they find them less threatening because the right wing extremists are usually only killing minorities and not folk who look and talk like others on the right? Do they dismiss the violence as unimportant because it likely didn't happen against a white Christian? I don't see any other reasons why those on the right continue to deflect any responsibility from right wing extremists who are just taking their ideology one step further than complicity.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.1.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.4    5 years ago
You simply can't argue with people who won't even acknowledge the existence of Antifa.

" Antifa ( / æ n ˈ t f ə , ˈ æ n t i ˌ f ɑː / ) is an anti-fascist political movement in the United States comprising a diverse array of autonomous groups that aim to achieve their objectives through the use of both non-violent and violent direct action rather than through policy reform".

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"ANTIFA" is a "movement". How exactly do you hold a "movement" accountable? How do you hold dozens of autonomous groups responsible for what some random person in a mask does at a protest? Arrest those using violence or vandalism, hold the individuals who do such things responsible. That is all you can do when there is no head of the snake to chop off. That's all anyone is saying when they question the actual existence of "ANTIFA" when framed the way right wing media proclaims it to be, as if it's some cohesive left wing group they can parade around in effigy to stir up their scared shitless fearful base. Rational persons don't see it as an actual solid entity that can be held accountable for anything and is only used by the right wing as a scapegoat to pin all their faux outrage on. What they're really scared of is losing their white Christian majority so they look for anything they can use as a cudgel to beat the left over the head with, even though ANTIFA has no affiliation or association with Democrats or any other left leaning political groups, campaigns or BLM. But facts don't matter to rabid right wing extremists who push that kind of bullshit narrative.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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1.1.6  seeder  KDMichigan  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.5    5 years ago

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Dismayed Patriot
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1.1.7  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  KDMichigan @1.1.6    5 years ago
Do you even know how wiki works? nevermind.

Of course, but anyone who rejects its claims without a single bit of contrary evidence is the one who should be laughed at. Please try and dispute a single thing in the statement I quoted from wiki.

Oh, and by the way, that meme you always use when you've got nothing is getting old.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
1.1.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.8    5 years ago
It has been proven that Antifa is not imaginary.

Did I ever say it was "imaginary"? No. As a "movement" it does exist, it's just not some entity or LLC run by specific persons that can be held accountable. How is this so fucking hard for those on the right to understand?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  KDMichigan @1    5 years ago

Yep, Jerry "No Nads" Nadler engaging in the two things he excels most at, being totally clueless and totally useless!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    5 years ago

Does Nadler live on this planet? 

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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4  Drakkonis    5 years ago

Well, of course Nadler is going to say this. He can't very well have congress address Antifa because he needs them. They are doing what he wants them to do. If he pretends they don't exist, he doesn't have to address it in congress. What will be interesting to see is, if the Dems get the trifecta (shudder!), what antifa's role will be going forward. Will they suddenly become the Dem's enemy or will they continue to use them to bring us closer to socialism? You know, brown shirts? Morality police? Something along those lines? 

 
 

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