As Trump's popularity slips in latest Military Times poll, more troops say they'll vote for Biden

  

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Via:  jbb  •  3 weeks ago  •  96 comments

By:   Leo Shane III (Military Times)

As Trump's popularity slips in latest Military Times poll, more troops say they'll vote for Biden
About half of troops surveyed for the poll said they have an unfavorable view of the commander in chief.

Active Duty Service Members are turning on Trump!


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Still, the dipping popularity among troops — considered by Republican Party leaders to be part of the base of Trump's support — could prove problematic for the president in the upcoming election.

Among active-duty service members surveyed in the poll, 41 percent said they would vote for Biden, the Democratic nominee, if the election was held today. Only 37 percent said they plan to vote to re-elect Trump.

Another 13 percent said they plan to vote for a third-party candidate, and nearly 9 percent said they plan on skipping the election altogether. About 40 percent of troops surveyed identified as Republican or Libertarian, 16 percent Democrats, and 44 percent independent or another party.

"It's fair to say that Trump is not as popular as Republican nominees have been in the past among this group," said Peter Feaver, a White House adviser to former President George W. Bush who now works as a political science professor at Duke University. "The bottom line is that in 2020, Trump can't be claiming to have overwhelming support in the military."

Poll limitations

Rosalinda Maury, director of applied research at IVMF, said the poll serves as an important reminder that the military — much like the rest of the country — is made up of a large collection of different experiences and perspectives.

"We do see consistencies from poll to poll, aspects of national security that may be more of a focus for a military audience," she said. "But the military is not a homogenous population. You do see a variety of opinions, especially within subsets of the military."

But she noted the poll, which has been administered in the same way for the past four years, is not a perfect snapshot of public opinion within the entire military force. The average age of poll respondents was nearly 39 years, and the participant pool was culled and verified from Military Times subscriber lists and databases.

Feaver said the poll "is a good sample of the career-oriented military members' views, which may be different from the junior enlisted view of things."

"But the president claims he has been good for the military, that they're grateful that he has rescued them from the shambles. This shows that's not the case with all of the military."

The splits between officer and enlisted views within the poll are notable. More than 59 percent of officers said they have a poor view of the president, with more than half saying they strongly disapprove.

Among enlisted respondents, 47 percent said they have an unfavorable view, and nearly 39 percent a favorable view. Enlisted views of Trump's performance in office have consistently been more favorable than those of officers in the poll over the last four years.

Feaver said that could be due to officers' predisposition to long-term military careers, and a negative reaction to Trump's comments against the "deep state" and other career federal positions.

The national Gallup Poll of Trump's job performance conducted just before the political conventions found that 55 percent of Americans had a negative view of the president, against 42 percent who approved of his work. Feaver said with any poll of service members, it is important to remember that those broader public views also play a factor.

"The military tends to follow broad shifts in the opinion of the American public, albeit trending more conservative," he said. "So as the country moves away from Trump, you'll see that in the military too."

Policy disagreements

Even with the president's lower popularity, the most recent poll respondents were more likely to hold a favorable view of Trump's handling of military issues (48 percent) than an unfavorable one (46 percent).

Still, the latest poll found significant disagreement among active-duty respondents with several controversial presidential policy statements from recent months.

Only about 17 percent of those surveyed felt the White House has properly handed reports that Russian officials offered bounties for Afghan fighters to target and kill American troops, an issue Trump has dismissed as unreliable intelligence. Nearly 47 percent disagreed with his statements.

Similarly, almost 74 percent of those surveyed disagreed with Trump's suggestion that active-duty military personnel should be used to respond to civil unrest in American cities, including the ongoing racial equality protests. Only about 22 percent supported the president's idea.

That contrasts with half of the polls respondents' support for using National Guard troops to help address civil unrest connected to the protests.

Troops agreed with Trump's assessment of China as a national security threat (nearly 87 percent called it a significant concern) but ranked Russia (81 percent) well above Iran (58 percent). Only about 21 percent of troops saw immigration as a significant national security issue, but 48 percent identified white nationalists as a concern.

Nearly half of troops surveyed said the U.S. military force level in Germany should remain the same, despite Trump's recent moves to drawn down American military personnel levels there. Another 24 percent say they believe troop levels in Germany should be increased.

Election views

Feaver said those policy disagreements "do not necessarily show that troops are beginning to think more like Democrats, but instead that they aren't thinking like Trump Republicans." He also cautioned that the stronger support for Biden in the poll than Trump may be more a reflection of dissatisfaction with the president than a political shift within the ranks.

Still, he called the numbers showing a close race in military voting between the two surprising.

In the 2016 Military Times Poll, nearly twice as many respondents said they planned to vote for Trump than then Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton. Exit polls from the election showed a similar margin after election day.

A 2012 Military Times Reader Survey — conducted in a non-scientific fashion — showed respondents favoring then Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney by a 2.5-to-1 margin.

Maury noted that the poll results are "a snapshot in a point of time" and that voting views can still shift in the two months between now and the election.

In the 2016 Military Times poll conducted in October, about 34 percent of troops surveyed said they planned to vote for a third-party candidate instead of either Trump or Clinton. Exit polls after the election showed that only about 5 percent of veterans and military members cast votes for candidates who weren't one of the two major party nominees.

Our methodology

Between July 27 and Aug. 10, Military Times in collaboration with the Institute for Veterans and Military Families at Syracuse University conducted a voluntary, confidential online survey of U.S. service members. Poll participants are readers of Military Times publications whose military status is verified through official Defense Department email addresses.

The survey included about 30 questions on service members' opinions related to the current political climate, policy and national security in the United States.

The survey received 1,018 responses from active-duty troops. The IVMF used standard methodology to weight the results according to the rank, gender and service branch of the actual U.S. military. The margin of error for most questions was less than 2 percent.

Like most studies where participation is voluntary, the poll's sample is subject to self-selection bias. Researchers sought to account for that and adhered to generally accepted scientific practices analyzing the data.

The survey audience was 93 percent male and 7 percent female. The respondents identified themselves as 82 percent white, 5 percent Hispanic, 6 percent African American, 2 percent Asian and 6 percent other ethnicities. Respondents were able to select more than one race.

The Military Times and the researchers at IVMF have used identical methodologies for this survey since 2016.


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JBB
1  seeder  JBB    3 weeks ago

Trump is even losing active duty service members.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JBB @1    3 weeks ago

He should have never had any to begin with.  If even one supports him, that is one too many.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @1    3 weeks ago

You would have to be a complete moron to support tRumpturd, IMHO.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

Military people tend to be clear, organized thinkers.  The ones who aren't locked into being pro trump because they are racists will be inclined to vote against him. 

 
 
 
JBB
2.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @2    3 weeks ago

Our military is like a rainbow. Trumpers don't get it!

 
 
 
cjcold
2.1.1  cjcold  replied to  JBB @2.1    3 weeks ago

It's disingenuous to claim all speak with one mind. Back in the day many of my martial art students were military and came from a variety of backgrounds and ideologies. 

 
 
 
JBB
2.1.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  cjcold @2.1.1    3 weeks ago

That's what I was saying...

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @2    3 weeks ago

It's not that we are more clear organized.  We are just more regimented.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3  XDm9mm    3 weeks ago
The results, collected before the political conventions earlier this month,

And now that people have seen Hiden Biden and Shape Shifter Harris speaking about nothing but hatred for President Trump and providing noting regarding how to help America and Americans, all of those beloved polls the left clings to like life jackets in roiling seas has shown the continual decline of them and their party while at the same time showing continued improvement in the numbers for President Trump and REPUBLICANS in general.

TRUMP //  PENCE 2020

 
 
 
JBB
3.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  XDm9mm @3    3 weeks ago
 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.1  XDm9mm  replied to  JBB @3.1    3 weeks ago
Except Trump approval is down since the RNC FAIL!

Still reeling from all the Democrats that came out in support of President Trump or is it all of the intelligent blacks that came out in support of Trump and finally vocalizing the truth about the Democrat party's FAILURE to do what they have always promised and President Trump accomplished?   Damn, those truths must really HURT.  And they'll hurt at the ballot box this November too!!!

 
 
 
JBB
3.1.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.1    3 weeks ago

Again, "Blah blah blah". Show me the numbers!

We know Trump sycophants love him. What about gaining voters. Biden is gaining new voters but Trump us not. That is a fact. Saying differently without any evidence or proof is just rank partisan propaganda!

 
 
 
Ozzwald
3.1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.1    3 weeks ago
Still reeling from all the Democrats that came out in support of President Trump

So where are any of the previous Republican Presidents in support of Trump?  Where is Bush's support for Trump?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3.1.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.3    3 weeks ago

It is 4 from Minnesota, a state whose main sport is ice fishing.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.5  XDm9mm  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.3    3 weeks ago
So where are any of the previous Republican Presidents in support of Trump? 

They're never Trumpers.  He eviscerated their globalist empire and it pissed them the fuck off.  They and the Democrats have all been exposed for their support of other nations and their people over the well being of the American people.

Where is Bush's support for Trump?

Who?  Really, who cares. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.6  XDm9mm  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3.1.4    3 weeks ago
It is 4 from Minnesota,

Actually, it's six current mayors.  

 

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.1    3 weeks ago

tRumpturd has accomplished absolutely nothing except for himself and his wealthy donors.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.5    3 weeks ago

You act like never trumpturders is a bad thing.  

How can anyone with any decency or common sense or morals or values support trumpturd?  

 
 
 
Ozzwald
3.1.9  Ozzwald  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.5    3 weeks ago
They're never Trumpers.

Typical " No True Scotsman " fallacy.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.10  XDm9mm  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.9    3 weeks ago
Typical " No True Scotsman " fallacy.

You ARE aware are you not that the ONLY LIVING Republican former President is Bush and he has been and always was a 'never Trump' proponent.

NEXT.

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.11  Sparty On  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.10    3 weeks ago

Yeah, he picked on Dubya's little brother ..... presto chango ..... never Trumper

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3.1.12  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.11    3 weeks ago

This is not just directed to Sparty.

There seems to be a lot of Republicans that have become never Trumpers that were not in the last election. How do you explain so many of them away? 

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Wow! That is quite the list. And so many endorsing Biden. I have never remembered so many defectors from a party. Doesn't that make you wonder why?

 
 
 
Gsquared
3.1.13  Gsquared  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.12    3 weeks ago

Excellent comment Perrie.

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.14  Tessylo  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.13    3 weeks ago

Indeed, MOST EXCELLENT!

 
 
 
Ozzwald
3.1.15  Ozzwald  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.10    3 weeks ago

You ARE aware are you not that the ONLY LIVING Republican former President is Bush and he has been and always was a 'never Trump' proponent.

NEXT.

How about former administration members, or relatives from the previous Republican administration?  Where are the Cheney's, Bush's, Reagan's relatives?  Trump cannot even claim support from his own relatives.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.16  XDm9mm  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.15    3 weeks ago
How about former administration members, or relatives from the previous Republican administration? 

Obviously you can't provide any answers to your own claim and now play the deferral game.  Good try but a fail.

Where are the Cheney's, Bush's, Reagan's relatives? 

I don't know and I don't care.  You're apparently the one that needs others support or lack thereof to make your own decisions.  Like sheep being led to the slaughter.

Trump cannot even claim support from his own relatives.

Now you're claiming that Donald Jr., Eric Trump, Ivanka Trump, Tiffany Trump are not relatives?   Seriously?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.17  XDm9mm  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.12    3 weeks ago
U.S. Senators

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Please, calling those people CURRENT Republicans is laughable.   They're RINO's now and have been for years.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3.1.18  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.17    3 weeks ago

That is just your opinion and that is a really long list and many who worked with Trump. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.19  XDm9mm  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.18    3 weeks ago
many who worked with Trump. 

And many who were also fired by Trump.

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.20  Sparty On  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.12    3 weeks ago

I really don't wonder why.   Trump is a controversial candidate to be sure and yet he continues to do well where it counts.   With the people.

I do wonder why so many "apparently high ranking, influential and smart people you've made a point to bring out" have endorsed a man who's been hiding in his basement, not saying much of anything to base a decision on at this point.

Yeah, that's a real head knocker.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
3.1.21  Ozzwald  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.17    3 weeks ago

They're RINO's now and have been for years.

Oh yeah, back to the "   No True Scotsman  " fallacy ......again.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
3.1.22  Ozzwald  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.20    3 weeks ago
Trump is a controversial candidate to be sure and yet he continues to do well where it counts.   With the people.

Try again.  Hell, Trump couldn't win the people over Hillary.

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Paula Bartholomew
3.1.23  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.12    3 weeks ago

That sure kicks the 4 sad dems from Minnesota right in the ass.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3.1.24  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.13    3 weeks ago

If there were a comment Hall Of Fame here, that would so totally qualify.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
3.1.25  Ozzwald  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.16    3 weeks ago

Now you're claiming that Donald Jr., Eric Trump, Ivanka Trump, Tiffany Trump are not relatives?   Seriously?

Do they support him?  They are all (except Eric) supporting mail in voting in Republican campaign commercials.  Does that sound to you like they're supporting him?

 
 
 
Gsquared
3.1.26  Gsquared  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3.1.24    3 weeks ago

I agree completely.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.27  XDm9mm  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.25    3 weeks ago
Do they support him?  They are all (except Eric) supporting mail in voting in Republican campaign commercials.  Does that sound to you like they're supporting him?

I guess you didn't hear them speak at the RNC.  You missed a great time of very positive remarks about President Trump by a multitude of people including Democrats, pardoned black (1994 crime bill victim  THANKS HIDEN BIDEN) people, black politicians, immigrants and others beside his FAMILY.   So yeah, they support him.

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.29  Sparty On  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.22    3 weeks ago

Awesome ..... good for you but stock up on butt cream and mind fuck drugs just in case

I suspect you’re gonna need them ..... but hey .... I could be wrong ....

 
 
 
Ozzwald
3.1.30  Ozzwald  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.29    3 weeks ago
Awesome ..... good for you but stock up on butt cream and mind fuck drugs just in case

I'm sure you have tried and true recommendations on both of those.

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.31  Sparty On  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.30    3 weeks ago

Nah, i have to defer to the looners on the left for that.   The sky screamers, the TDS ridden, the butt hurt from 2016.  

I did buy stock in Pfizer though.   Made a killing on butt cream and antidepressant futures and i do thank those folks for that.

Easy money that was ....

 
 
 
Ozzwald
3.1.32  Ozzwald  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.31    3 weeks ago
Nah, i have to defer to the looners on the left for that.

Which means you have inquired about them previously.  So which do you prefer, I assume you have tried multiple.

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.33  Sparty On  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.32    3 weeks ago
Which means you have inquired about them previously. 

Ehhht, wrong again ..... would you like to try the lightning round where values are doubled and the points can really add up?

Lol ..... the Ozz is funny .....

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.34  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.1    3 weeks ago
Still reeling from all the Democrats that came out in support of President Trump

All ONE of them? jrSmiley_84_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.35  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.16    3 weeks ago
Now you're claiming that Donald Jr., Eric Trump, Ivanka Trump, Tiffany Trump are not relatives?   Seriously?

The statement was about relatives, NOT dependents. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.36  XDm9mm  replied to  Dulay @3.1.34    3 weeks ago
All ONE of them?

Count again.

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So, you were saying?  You CAN count more than one can you not?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.37  XDm9mm  replied to  Dulay @3.1.35    3 weeks ago
The statement was about relatives, NOT dependents. 

Maybe you should look up the definition of relatives.

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.38  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.36    3 weeks ago
So, you were saying?  You CAN count more than one can you not?

I was saying that there was ONE Democrat that 'came out for' Trump at the RNC. THAT is what your reply was about, was it not? 

Now, would you like to talk the Republicans that came out for Biden at the DNC? 

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.39  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.37    3 weeks ago

No need. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
3.1.40  Ozzwald  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.33    3 weeks ago
Ehhht, wrong again

Wow, you need to read your own comments.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.41  XDm9mm  replied to  Dulay @3.1.39    3 weeks ago
No need. 

Quite wrong.   You DEFINITELY need to read the DEFINITION of relative.

I'll save you the time of investigating and provide one for you:

relative

( r e lətɪv     )
Word forms:   plural   relatives  
1.  COUNTABLE NOUN
Your   relatives   are the members of your family.
Do relatives of yours still live in Siberia?  
Get a relative to look after the children.  
Synonyms:   relation ,   connection ,   kinsman   or   woman   or   person ,   member of your   or   the family       More Synonyms of   relative
 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.42  XDm9mm  replied to  Dulay @3.1.38    3 weeks ago
I was saying that there was ONE Democrat that 'came out for' Trump at the RNC. THAT is what your reply was about, was it not? 

Yes it was, but I'm not in the mood to even attempt to educate you further.  Providing a definition was more than enough research on your behalf.

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.43  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.41    3 weeks ago

It may behoove you to review the definition of dependent, ALL of his 'children' qualify. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.44  XDm9mm  replied to  Dulay @3.1.43    3 weeks ago
It may behoove you to review the definition of dependent, ALL of his 'children' qualify. 

Actually, you should heed your own advice.   For your edification, I'll provide you the definition of another term to save you the difficult task of locating it.

dependent

or de·pend·ant

[ dih- pen -d uh nt ] SHOW IPA

adjective

relying on someone or something else for aid, support, etc.
conditioned or determined by something else; contingent: Our trip is dependent on the weather.
subordinate; subject: a dependent territory.
Grammar . not used in isolation; used only in connection with other forms. In I walked out when the bell rang, when the bell rang is a dependent clause. Compare independent (def. 14) , main 1 (def. 4) .
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noun

a person who depends on or needs someone or something for aid, support, favor, etc.
a child, spouse, parent, or certain other relative to whom one contributes all or a major amount of necessary financial support: She listed two dependents on her income-tax form.
Now, considering ALL of his children, with the exception of Barron are ADULTS and fully capable of providing for themselves and their respective families, they do not fall within the definition as presented.
Try again, and you'll be embarrassed again.
 
 
 
JBB
3.1.45  seeder  JBB  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.44    3 weeks ago

Trump's spawn depend on him for everything!

Have any of them made one $ independently?

And, aren't they all on the government tit now?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
3.1.46  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @3.1.45    3 weeks ago
Have any of them made one $ independently?

Ivanka for one.

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.47  Sparty On  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.40    3 weeks ago

Wow, don't need to.  

I wrote them.

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.48  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.44    3 weeks ago
Try again, and you'll be embarrassed again.

They're ALL dependent on daddy. Every single one of them. Ivana's kids are all employed by daddy and dependent on his 'good name'. 

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.49  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.46    3 weeks ago

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XDm9mm
3.1.50  XDm9mm  replied to  Dulay @3.1.48    3 weeks ago
They're ALL dependent on daddy. Every single one of them. Ivana's kids are all employed by daddy and dependent on his 'good name'. 

WRONG.

They're employed by a CORPORATION, one has her own clothing line, one is an author.

Try again, and be embarrassed again.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
3.1.51  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dulay @3.1.49    3 weeks ago

Laugh all you want. Trump, family or no family as he has proven in the past, does not condone incompetence.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2019/11/08/heres-how-much-don-jr-eric-and-ivanka-trump-are-worth/#5817e7c775ed

" Unlike most wealthy heirs, the Trump children haven’t gotten their riches from trust funds or received chunks of the family business through careful transfers over time. In fact,  they own virtually none of the Trump Organization’s vast holdings . The only major venture in which the president has included his family appears to be the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C., where his three eldest kids—Don Jr., Ivanka and Eric—each owns a 7.5% stake, worth about $6 million apiece. 

Instead, most of their money appears to have come from hefty salaries they’ve earned as longtime executives at the Trump Organization. Their father pays well. Over the past two decades, the three siblings have taken in an estimated $35 million each in pretax salary, commissions and bonuses, according to a  Forbes  analysis of Donald and Ivanka Trump’s financial disclosures. 

They have used those earnings to build their own portfolios, buying up splashy real estate and launching their own business ventures—with varying degrees of success. 

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XDm9mm
3.1.52  XDm9mm  replied to  JBB @3.1.45    3 weeks ago
Have any of them made one $ independently?

Ivanka for one, and now Donald Jr. as an author.  

And, aren't they all on the government tit now?

What the fuck does that have to do with anything?   I know lots of people that work for the government.  Are they Trump dependents too?   If so, will they be included in his will??????

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.53  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.50    3 weeks ago
WRONG. They're employed by a CORPORATION,

An ORGANIZATION, wholly owned by daddy. 

one has her own clothing line,

Which was just another one of daddy's businesses. 

one is an author.

The RNC bought $94,800 worth...

Try again, and be embarrassed again.

Haven't been yet. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.54  XDm9mm  replied to  Dulay @3.1.53    3 weeks ago

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Sparty On
3.1.55  Sparty On  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.54    3 weeks ago

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Dulay
3.1.56  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.51    3 weeks ago

So daddy pays well and kiddies help daddy violate NY charity law. 

Hey, I think that Ivanka is the 'smart' one. She's ridding the gravy train, and avoiding all of the consequences of daddy's fuck ups. She doesn't take a hit when daddy has to pay out on lawsuits. I guess her 'sparkle' is a bit tarnished after it was revealed that the Trumps were ripping off those that donated to their 'charity', but hey, she got her's and she can just say it was just daddy being daddy. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
3.1.57  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dulay @3.1.56    3 weeks ago

Deflection shields up Mr. Spock

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.58  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.54    3 weeks ago

That's the most cogent comment you've posted yet. 

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.59  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.57    3 weeks ago

You know that means YOU'RE the one deflecting right Jim? 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
3.1.60  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dulay @3.1.59    3 weeks ago

No it means I am seeing a pile of bullshit that is full of deflection that won't allow a comment to enter your head. I was doing you a solid 

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.61  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @3.1.59    3 weeks ago

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Dulay
3.1.62  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.60    3 weeks ago
No it means I am seeing a pile of bullshit that is full of deflection

Wait WHAT? Didn't you say that daddy paid well? 

Yep, that was you Jim. 

that won't allow a comment to enter your head.

Oh but i did. My reply directly addressed your comment. If you have an issue recognizing that, it's on you. 

I was doing you a solid 

Ex-lax may help. 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.2  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  XDm9mm @3    3 weeks ago
And now that people have seen Hiden Biden and Shape Shifter Harris speaking about nothing but hatred for President Trump and providing noting regarding how to help America and Americans

People?  What people?  Would that be Trump's version of people...lots, many, most, all?  In any event, throw out a link to back up your comment.  

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.2.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.2    3 weeks ago
And now that people have seen Hiden Biden and Shape Shifter Harris speaking about nothing but hatred for President Trump and providing noting regarding how to help America and Americans
People?  What people? 

You, me, and other people.  Got it?

Would that be Trump's version of people...lots, many, most, all? 

Who the fuck mentioned President Trump?  I know he lives rent free in your mind 24x7 and that's where the reference must have originated as I never mentioned him in the post you responded to.

In any event, throw out a link to back up your comment.  

A link for what exactly?   Are you trying to deny that people have seen Hiden Biden and Shape Shifter Harris speaking?

 
 
 
Veronica
3.2.2  Veronica  replied to  XDm9mm @3.2.1    3 weeks ago
Who the fuck mentioned President Trump? 

YOU did in 3.1.1.  Did you forget?  Sister EVEN put in the quote from that comment.

And now that people have seen Hiden Biden and Shape Shifter Harris speaking about nothing but hatred for President Trump and providing noting regarding how to help America and Americans

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XDm9mm
3.2.3  XDm9mm  replied to  Veronica @3.2.2    3 weeks ago
YOU did in 3.1.1.  Did you forget?  Sister EVEN put in the quote from that comment.

Really?  Here's the ENTIRETY of post 3.1.1

3.1.1 XDm9mm replied to  JBB @ 3.1   4 hours ago  
Except Trump approval is down since the RNC FAIL!
Still reeling from all the Democrats that came out in support of President Trump or is it all of the intelligent blacks that came out in support of Trump and finally vocalizing the truth about the Democrat party's FAILURE to do what they have always promised and President Trump accomplished?   Damn, those truths must really HURT.  And they'll hurt at the ballot box this November too!!!

Can you point to the quote you're claiming I made there?   YOU WERE alluding to this, " And now that people have seen Hiden Biden and Shape Shifter Harris speaking about nothing but hatred for   President Trump   and providing noting regarding how to help America and Americans" were you not?

You're permitted to go laugh at yourself now.  Better yet, allow me.jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gifjrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gifjrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.2.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Veronica @3.2.2    3 weeks ago

Veronica, don't engage. I've seen this game played before. You'll just end up with a migraine.

I know you're right but Xmm specializes in dodge ball

 
 
 
Veronica
3.2.5  Veronica  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.2.4    3 weeks ago

I don't call it dodge ball.  I call it being disingenuous.  Everyone can see what was posted & he can paint whatever picture he wants, but I guess I will follow your advice - no sense when people have no integrity.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.2.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Veronica @3.2.5    3 weeks ago

Ever see the movie Dodge Ball. There's 5 steps dodge, duck, dive, dip, and dodge except I replaced the second dodge with drool.

But you're right, that's exactly what it is, disingenuous 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3.2.7  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Veronica @3.2.2    3 weeks ago

Busted!!!!!

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.3  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @3    3 weeks ago

TRUMP/PENCE FOR PRISON 2020

 
 
 
dennis smith
3.4  dennis smith  replied to  XDm9mm @3    3 weeks ago

How conveniently for some to post articles that rely on polls knowing how that turned out for them in 2016.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.4.1  XDm9mm  replied to  dennis smith @3.4    3 weeks ago
How conveniently for some to post articles that rely on polls knowing how that turned out for them in 2016.

What's more telling is that the Democrats are spending a great deal of campaign dollars in Minnesota for advertising, which they didn't bother doing in 2016.   Is that fear I smell coming from the MN DNC?  Or just some burning buildings in Minneapolis?

 
 
 
Dulay
3.4.2  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @3.4.1    3 weeks ago

So since your standard is where ad money is being spent, what say you about Trump flooding Texas, North Carolina and Georgia with campaign dollars? 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.4.3  XDm9mm  replied to  Dulay @3.4.2    3 weeks ago
So since your standard is where ad money is being spent, what say you about Trump flooding Texas, North Carolina and Georgia with campaign dollars? 

Simply to counter the bullshit from Hiden Biden and Shape Shifter Harris.  But, he spent quite a bit here in Texas last time also, I can't say much about NC or GA as I don't live there.   But the Democrats have spent virtually NOTHING in Minnesota in previous elections.  The state was a lock, much like the Peoples Republics of New York and California.

 
 
 
Dulay
3.4.4  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @3.4.3    3 weeks ago

Seriously, the juvenile name calling detracts from any credibility of everything that follows. 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.4.5  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  dennis smith @3.4    3 weeks ago
knowing how that turned out for them in 2016.

2016 was 4 years ago.  Hillary Clinton can't hurt you anymore.  I'm hoping you'll be able to move on at some point.

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.5  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @3    3 weeks ago
And now that people have seen Hiden Biden and Shape Shifter Harris speaking about nothing but hatred for President Trump

He is an easy person to hate. During Biden's speech, how many times did he even mention trump? Zero. How many times did trump bring up Biden in his acceptance speech? 36 times? 

But sure, tell us how mean Biden was to Bunker Bitch Trump. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
4  Sparty On    3 weeks ago

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Veronica
4.1  Veronica  replied to  Sparty On @4    3 weeks ago

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Adam_Selene
5  Adam_Selene    3 weeks ago

I have confidence that the officers of the armed services, no matter what their political preferences, will adhere to their oaths of allegiance  to the Constitution.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
5.1  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Adam_Selene @5    3 weeks ago

That's a fact.

I also remember the head of the JCS putting out a statement something to the effect that the US Military will remain neutral in the politics of the day.

 
 
 
Tessylo
6  Tessylo    3 weeks ago

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