Schumer leaves door open to 14th Amendment measure to bar Trump from office | Fox News


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Schumer leaves door open to 14th Amendment measure to bar Trump from office | Fox News
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer Thursday did not rule out bringing legislation to bar former President Donald Trump from office if he is not convicted at the ongoing Senate impeachment trial.


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Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer Thursday did not rule out bringing legislation to bar former President Donald Trump from office if he is not convicted at the ongoing Senate impeachment trial.

Democratic senators have discussed in recent weeks that if they cannot secure the 67 votes needed to convict Trump -- and bar him from holding office in a subsequent simple-majority vote -- that they might invoke the 14th Amendment of the Constitution to do the same.

Schumer, D-N.Y., was asked about the possibility in a press conference ahead of the impeachment trial proceedings Thursday.

"We're first going to finish the impeachment trial and then Democrats will get together and discuss where we go next," Schumer replied.


Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) speaks during a press conference about student debt outside the U.S. Capitol on February 4, 2021 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images) (Getty Images)

He'd also praised the case made by the House impeachment managers Wednesday and that he is "hopeful it will change minds. It's hard to look at that and not see the gravity of what happened."

Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., has been on the forefront of the 14th Amendment push among Democrats, and Sen. Chris Coons, D-Del., late last month called it "intriguing."

"What Senator Kaine is talking about is a censure resolution that would also specifically include the elements of the 14th Amendment that lead to disqualification from future office," Coons said. "That's intriguing to me and something I'm willing to look at the bottom line here is we have to deliver accountability for the events of January 6."

The 14th Amendment to the Constitution says that Congress can bar people who "engaged in insurrection or rebellion" against the U.S. from holding office. It was originally meant to prevent former Confederates from serving in the government after the Civil War.

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof," the amendment says.

"The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article," it adds.


Sen. Tim Kaine D-Va., speaks during a news conference outside of the Senate chamber, on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, Jan. 14, 2020. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana)

Some interpret this amendment as fundamentally giving Congress the ability to bar a person who "engaged in insurrection" -- what Trump is accused of in the article of impeachment -- from office.

It's almost certain that this action, like an impeachment conviction, does not have the votes to pass.

It would likely raise constitutional questions and slippery slope concerns that it would set a precedent neither party wants when their preferred candidate is in office.

Trump's current impeachment was spurred by the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol. Trump, after months of making false claims that he'd won the presidential election, called a rally in Washington, D.C., with his supporters for the same day Congress and then-Vice President Mike Pence were meeting in a joint session to certify the results of the election.

Trump, at the rally, repeated his false election claims and he and advisers used pitched rhetoric, riling up the large crowd. Trump at one point in the rally told his followers to "peacefully and patriotically" march to the Capitol, a comment his defenders point to as part of the reason why he does not bear responsibility for the ransacking of the Capitol.

But House impeachment managers are arguing that one comment does not cancel out the balance of Trump's other comments in that speech or in the proceeding months.

"In a speech spanning almost 11,000 words -- yes, we did check -- that was the one time, the only time, President Trump used the word peaceful or any suggestion of nonviolence," impeachment manager Rep. Madeleine Dean, D-Pa., said.


Supporters of President Donald Trump climb the west wall of the the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday, Jan. 6, 2021, in Washington. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana)

Schumer made his comments at a press conference with Sens. Jon Ossoff, D-Ga., and Raphael Warnock, D-Ga. Democrats more generally but Ossoff, Warnock and Schumer specifically have been the subjects of harsh criticism from progressives for allegedly backing off their campaign promise of $2,000 stimulus checks for Americans.

The coronavirus relief plan being pushed by President Biden and congressional Democrats includes $1,400 stimulus checks, which Democrats say adds up to $2,000 with the $600 stimulus checks passed in the waning days of the Trump administration.

The senators argued that the Democrats' plan in all provides average families with much more than $2,000 in total federal aid.

"Senator Warnock and I are here to deliver for Georgia families who are counting on us for aid during this pandemic," said Senator Ossoff. "This bill will send $8,200 in new federal financial support to an average working family of four in Georgia while we invest massively in vaccines and the health response to end this pandemic."

Fox News' Kelly Phares contributed to this report.

Tyler Olson covers politics for


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PhD Principal
1  seeder  JBB    3 weeks ago


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2  Texan1211    3 weeks ago

I guess if one thing fails, try something new!

PhD Principal
2.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @2    3 weeks ago

Rest assured that justice is not done with Trump!

The only thing he had to lose with an impeachment conviction was the ability to run again. That can still be taken from him along with everything he owns and his freedom. New York is waiting their/our turn.

PhD Principal
2.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.1    3 weeks ago

yeah, yeah, yeah.

I am wondering why the DC police haven't arrested him yet?

I wonder what the hold up is all about.

PhD Principal
2.1.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.1    3 weeks ago

That is why he is holed up down in Florida...

I imagine international courts want him, too!

PhD Principal
2.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.1.2    3 weeks ago

uh, huh, sure!

Paula Bartholomew
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2.1.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JBB @2.1.2    3 weeks ago

You imagine correctly.  When he pardoned the Blackwater employees after they were found guilty of the violation of human rights, he broke international law.

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2.1.5  Snuffy  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.1    3 weeks ago

I was reading a story about that last night.  CD is looking at charges, but there are many problems with attempting to bring charges.

Racine has acknowledged it could be an uphill battle because of his limited jurisdiction in Washington. Racine's office only enforces local codes for the city, while the prosecution of both major crimes and federal crimes falls under the purview of the Justice Department.

Several criminal defense attorneys tell CNN that procedural and practical issues will make a successful prosecution against the ex-President nearly impossible. These experts point to the fact that the DC statute being considered centers around traditional disorderly conduct and has never been invoked against a politician for their words.

Another hurdle is that Racine doesn't have the authority to get Trump back to Washington to face the charges.

"They'd have to get physical jurisdiction over (Trump) and DC doesn't typically extradite for misdemeanors," said Richard Gilbert, a criminal defense attorney in DC. "I don't know how you would get him from Mar-a-Lago."

Mark in Wyoming
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2.1.6  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.1    3 weeks ago

As pointed out it is likely jurisdictional/ extriditional reasons , hell the leader of the proud boys had a warrant out for him but they couldnt do anything to him until he went back into DC.

Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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2.1.7  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.1.4    3 weeks ago
When he pardoned the Blackwater employees after they were found guilty of the violation of human rights, he broke international law.

Law Schmaw!  It was only a few innocent women and children who were murdered.  Besides, if Trump can stand in the street and shoot someone in the head and retain his standing, I guess it's ok to pardon those who have really done it.

Paula Bartholomew
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2.1.8  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1.7    3 weeks ago


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3  Tacos!    3 weeks ago

WTF! Let DOJ handle it and get back to your fuckin' job!

I mean if you thought Trump was overdoing it on the election appeals (and he was), then don't you think that Congress - from Russiagate to two failed impeachments, and now an extremely sketchy vote on the 14th Amendment - might have jumped the fuckin shark by now?

Scuse my French.

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3.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Tacos! @3    3 weeks ago

I'm all for letting SDNY loose on Trump & Company!

Congress can still pass laws censuring them, also...

It isn't like the gop gave up on the Clintons in 2001.

Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
3.1.1  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JBB @3.1    3 weeks ago
It isn't like the gop gave up on the Clintons in 2001.


lets see , i seem to remember Willie Jeff was in office until 2001 so he was still fair game as long as he WAS in office at least im told thats the case, fair game while in office.

 Hillary, carpet bagged it, ran and won a senatorial seat  from NY In 2001 , so that again , made the smartest woman in the US of A , politically fair game . too bad she was just soooo unlikable and had the personality of an alligator snapping turtle or alligator Gar.

Greg Jones
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4  Greg Jones    3 weeks ago

You would think the Dems would feel foolish and stupid and embarrassed by their ongoing failures.

They can thank their inept "leaders"....Pelosi and Schumer.

Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
4.1  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Greg Jones @4    3 weeks ago

they are ;likely all walking around the capital saying ," we were this close" while rubbing their thumb and forefinger together like they are playing the worlds smallest violin trying to play , my heart bleeds.

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4.1.1  Snuffy  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @4.1    3 weeks ago


Buzz of the Orient
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5  Buzz of the Orient    3 weeks ago


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6  bbl-1    3 weeks ago

The man who dwells in Mar-a-Lago is acquitted.  The senate is done with him.  And now he receives his pension, perks and protection from the taxpayers unhindered. 

Also now---there are trails of trials awaiting the man that dwells in Mar-a-Lago.  Send him money.  He's going to need it.


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