Stolen Jefferson Davis Monument Is Apparently In Danger Of Being Turned Into A Toilet

  

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Via:  john-russell  •  one week ago  •  14 comments

By:   Cristina Cabrera (TPM)

Stolen Jefferson Davis Monument Is Apparently In Danger Of Being Turned Into A Toilet
A $500,000 monument dedicated to Confederate president Jefferson Davis could be doomed to a crappy fate. The Jefferson Davis Memorial Chair in Selma…

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jefferson-davis-toilet-804x536.jpg (TPM Illustration/Getty Images) By Cristina Cabrera | April 6, 2021 4:01 p.m.

A $500,000 monument dedicated to Confederate president Jefferson Davis could be doomed to a crappy fate.

The Jefferson Davis Memorial Chair in Selma, Alabama was stolen from the Live Oaks Cemetery in March. Now, the group that claims to currently possess the monument is demanding a ransom from the United Daughters of the Confederacy (UDC), an organization of Confederate descendants dedicated to preserving monuments of their ancestors. The UDC is also known for peddling the bogus "Lost Cause" narrative that falsely denies that Civil War was fought over slavery.

Jamyron Hope, the crime scene investigator at the Selma Police Department, told TPM over the phone that the chair was stolen on March 19. He also confirmed that the monument was worth half a million dollars.

The group, which calls itself "White Lies Matter," is demanding that the UDC display a banner featuring a quote by former Black Liberation Army activist Assata Shakur in front of the organization's headquarters in Richmond, Virginia for 24 hours in exchange for the monument. AL.com obtained an email from group, which says the banner must go up at 1 p.m. ET this Friday, aka the anniversary of Confederate General Robert E. Lee's surrender at the end of the Civil War.

"Failure to do so will result in the monument, an ornate stone chair, immediately being turned into a toilet," the alleged culprits warn. "If they do display the banner, not only will we return the chair intact, but we will clean it to boot."

AL.com reported that the White Lies Matter group emailed the news organization directly.

A photo shows that the monument, with a giant hole in the seat, stands ready to become a commode in an instant if the alleged chair thieves' demand goes unsatisfied:


A group calling itself White Lies Matter say they stole Jefferson Davis' chair from Selma and are demanding that the UDC hang a banner in Richmond Friday with a quote from Asatta Shakur. There's a $5000 reward. https://t.co/83fLcqZ1HNhttps://t.co/zVqR85vljHpic.twitter.com/urmo9lNKK8
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Per AL.com, the Shakur quote on the banner states: "The rulers of this country have always considered their property more important than our lives."

The alleged perpetrators assert in their email that the monument "mostly exists to remind those who's [sic] freedom had to be purchased in blood, that there still exists a portion of our country that is more than willing to continue to spill blood to avoid paying that debt down."

"We took their toy, and we don't feel guilty about it," they write. "They never play with it anyway. They just want it there to remind us what they've done, what they are still willing to do."

The theft was reported by Patricia Goodwin, who identified herself as a member of the UDC during a phone call with TPM.

Goodwin, who said she checked the monument "every day" before it went missing, declined to confirm whether her organization had received the ransom demand, directing TPM to UDC President General Linda Edwards, who did not respond to requests for comment.

However, Goodwin indicated that, unlike the Confederacy, the UDC would not concede to its adversary.

"We're not going to give in to extortion," she told TPM.

When asked what her response was to White Lies Matters' characterization of the monument in their email as "a throne for a ghost whose greatest accomplishment was treason," Goodwin was indifferent.

"I have no response to that whatever," she said. "They're entitled to their opinion."


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    one week ago
The alleged perpetrators assert in their email that the monument "mostly exists to remind those who's [sic] freedom had to be purchased in blood, that there still exists a portion of our country that is more than willing to continue to spill blood to avoid paying that debt down."

"We took their toy, and we don't feel guilty about it," they write. "They never play with it anyway. They just want it there to remind us what they've done, what they are still willing to do."

The theft was reported by Patricia Goodwin, who identified herself as a member of the UDC during a phone call with TPM.
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  seeder  JohnRussell    one week ago

What I would like to know is why is this thing allegedly worth 500,000 dollars ?

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zuksam
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2.1  zuksam  replied to  JohnRussell @2    one week ago
What I would like to know is why is this thing allegedly worth 500,000 dollars ?

It's a work of art, it's not cast concrete junk it looks to be carved out of one piece of stone. I don't really care who or what it's dedicated to I love statues and stuff for the artistry and I can respect the thousands of hours of hand work that went into creating that chair without getting hung up on the history. I wouldn't tear down a statue of Hitler, Mao, or Stalin and I wouldn't hide it away either I'd just put it somewhere it was alright for people to spit on the ground in front of it. Tearing down and destroying relics and statues just because you are offended by them is what groups like the Taliban do, Civilized People preserve their history if only to avoid repeating it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  seeder  JohnRussell    one week ago

In case someone thinks this is fake news

Stolen Confederate monument will become a ‘toilet’ unless ‘White Lies Matter’ demands are met, group vows

The Jefferson Davis Memorial Chair in Selma, Ala., went missing last month

A group claiming responsibility for the theft of a Confederate monument in Selma, Ala., laid out ransom terms in emails to local media Monday.

The price for the relic’s return? Not cash, but a demand that the headquarters of the United Daughters of the Confederacy in Richmond hang a banner quoting a Black radical on Friday, the 156th anniversary of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee’s surrender at the end of the Civil War.

The Jefferson Davis Memorial Chair, which was first reported missing from Live Oak Cemetery in Selma last month, is an ornately carved stone chair that was dedicated in 1893 to   the Confederate president ’s memory and is estimated to be worth $500,000.

Calling themselves “White Lies Matter,” the group sent a message to the   Montgomery Advertiser   and   AL.com   that included a   proof-of-life type photo   of the chair, a ransom note styled to look like it came from the 1800s and a photoshopped image of what their banner might look like hoisted above the UDC headquarters more than 700 miles away.

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“Failure to do so will result in the monument, an ornate stone chair, immediately being turned into a toilet. See enclosed photograph,” the group said in the email to   AL.com , with the photoshopped image below.

Until local media reported on the ransom emails Monday, many in Selma didn’t even know the chair had been stolen, including the local district attorney. He confirmed it with the police chief.

“Nobody knows what to make of this, it’s just really strange,” Dallas County District Attorney Michael Jackson told The Washington Post. “But you get used to ‘The Twilight Zone’ in Selma. Rod Serling would have a good time if he were down here himself.”

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At first, the Black prosecutor thought the group was calling itself “White Lives Matter,” he said, until he realized it was “a play on words” — White   Lies   Matter — and meant “the exact opposite,” he said.

The group cited U.S. history as its motive for the theft.

“America’s original sin is that people were kidnapped from their homes and forced to build one of the most prosperous nations in the world, without being allowed to participate in it. … We decided, in the spirit of such ignominious traditions, to kidnap a chair instead. Jefferson Davis doesn’t need it anymore. He’s long dead. To be honest, he never even had the chance to sit in it in the first place.”

Davis died in 1889, four years before the chair was dedicated. He was a Mississippi native and had not visited Selma for decades before his death.

“Like most Confederate monuments,” the White Lies Matter email continued, the chair “mostly exists to remind those who’s freedom had to be purchased in blood, that there still exists a portion of our country that is more than willing to continue to spill blood to avoid paying that debt down.”

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The chair was stolen on March 19, according to the Advertiser, the same weekend as the   Selma Pilgrimage , an annual festival celebrating Selma’s antebellum architecture and featuring tours led by White women dressed in hoop skirts.

It sat in an area of the cemetery known as Confederate Circle, which holds the graves of Confederate soldiers and several monuments. The city sold the area around Confederate Circle to the UDC in 2011. Who owns the circle itself is a subject of debate, according to the   Selma Times-Journal , though a sign posted in front of it says it is privately owned and maintained by the local UDC chapter.

Confederate Circle also includes a bust of Confederate general and Ku Klux Klan founder   Nathan Bedford Forrest . The bust was vandalized several times before being stolen in 2012. It has since been replaced by the UDC and another local group.

Attacks on statues of enslavers, Confederate generals and others reflect the symbolic place they hold worldwide in the history of and fight against racism. (Alexa Juliana Ard/The Washington Post)

White Lies Matter demanded the UDC, which is responsible for many of the nation’s Confederate statues and memorials, hang a banner the group said it had already provided on its headquarters in Richmond The banner reads: “The rulers of this country have always considered their property more important than our lives,” which is a quote by   Assata Shakur .

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Shakur, as a member of the Black Liberation Army, was convicted of the murder of a New Jersey state trooper in 1977. She escaped from prison in 1979 and has been living in asylum in Cuba for decades. From there she has written books and become a cultural hero to some Black artists, including Common and Yasiin Bey.

The Richmond headquarters was also targeted last summer during the George Floyd protests when it was briefly set on fire. The UDC did not respond to several requests for comment.

“We took their toy, and we don’t feel guilty about it,” the White Lies Matter group wrote. “They never play with it anyway. They just want it there to remind us what they’ve done, what they are still willing to do.

“But the south won’t rise again. Not as the Confederacy. Because that coalition left out a large portion of its population. All that’s left of that nightmare is an obscenely heavy chair that’s a throne for a ghost whose greatest accomplishment was treason.”

In a slightly newer section of the cemetery lay the burial site of Edmund Pettus, a Confederate officer and namesake of the bridge in Selma made famous during the civil rights movement.

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On March 7, 1965, a young John Lewis led a group of peaceful protesters across the bridge, where they were attacked by police and a White mob. “Bloody Sunday,” as it became known, was a turning point in the struggle for voting rights.

Following Lewis’s death in July 2020, calls swelled to rename the bridge after the congressman. The debated raged in Selma for several months, Jackson, the district attorney, said.

Jackson said he personally doesn’t support renaming it, because “ John Lewis didn’t support a name change .” But he knows a lot of people are hurt by the continued presence of Confederate statues and images, and he supports taking them down if local communities want it.

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In the meantime, Jackson and other authorities are trying to get a copy of an alleged video the group filmed of themselves stealing the chair.

If the thieves are caught, he said, “I’m the district attorney of everybody [in Dallas County], so yes, they will be prosecuted.” Because of the estimated value of the chair, stealing it would be considered a felony. They could also face extortion charges.

“If they do display the banner, not only will we return the chair intact, but we will clean it to boot,” the group claimed. “For all that talk about heritage, they really haven't taken care of the thing.”

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4  Texan1211    one week ago

Sounds like such a lovely group of thugs which stole it.

I wonder if Democrats will give them some type of special recognition?

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @4    one week ago

bfd. that face should be laser etched into the bowl of every public shitter in the confederacy anyway. just wait for the shit storm when the military starts changing confederate base names, which was passed during the last administration.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @4.1    one week ago

WTF does that have to do with my post, other than absolutely nothing??

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.2  Ronin2  replied to  Texan1211 @4    one week ago

Yes they deserve the special recognition of having their heads dunked in a never ending swirly in their newly made toilet. It should be posted on social media so that all other radicals can see that stealing and destroying things that are not theirs is illegal.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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4.3  Gazoo  replied to  Texan1211 @4    one week ago

Since when do liberals need a toilet? [removed]

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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5  Paula Bartholomew    one week ago

I am no fan of the statue, but a toilet?  I'm sorry, but that is just plain rude.

 
 
 
zuksam
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5.1  zuksam  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5    one week ago

That stone would be very cold first thing in the morning.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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5.1.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  zuksam @5.1    one week ago

I haven't sat on a man's face in over 20 years.jrSmiley_68_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
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5.1.2  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.1.1    one week ago

I can only imagine the disappointment of all involved.

Submitted with my sympathy..... Fly.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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5.1.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @5.1.2    3 days ago

Sweet talker.jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif

 
 
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