Scientology’s secrets spill into open in Danny Masterson rape case


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Via:  msaubrey-aka-ahyoka  •  6 months ago  •  19 comments


Scientology’s secrets spill into open in Danny Masterson rape case
The Church of Scientology works hard to keep its inner workings out of the public eye.

I just can't fathom what possesses people to join this "religion." Everything is a secret... until you give "the church" a ton of money. It makes me really bummed to think that the Masterson family, in its entirety belong to this "religion." While most people know that Danny [from That 70s Show] and Chris [from Malcolm in the Middle and brief appearances on That 70s Show] are brothers, many people do not realize that Alanna [from The Walking Dead], and Jordan [from Last Man Standing] are 1/2 siblings to Danny and Chris. There are other 1/2 siblings, but none that are actors... yet. I think that it bums me out, because I've watched interviews and Comicon panels with Alanna and she's funny and likable, but to think that she's good with everything Scientology is what bothers me.

What are your thoughts?


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The Church of Scientology works hard to keep its inner workings out of the public eye.

It has hired private detectives to keep tabs on straying members, and experts say its lawyers vigorously defend against legal incursions, arguing to judges that Scientology’s beliefs are not courtroom fodder.

But at a hearing last week in the rape case against actor Danny Masterson, church officials were unable to stop their practices from being debated in open court.

Three women took the stand to recount sexual assaults allegedly committed by the celebrity Scientologist, and each told similar stories of how church officials tried to stop them from reporting Masterson to police.

One woman testified that a church official instructed her to write a statement showing she would “take responsibility” for a 2001 assault, in which she alleges Masterson raped her while she was unconscious.

Another woman, who was born into Scientology and planned to report Masterson to police in 2004,   a year after she said he raped her at his Hollywood mansion,   recounted how a Scientology attorney showed up at her family’s home. The lawyer, according to the woman, warned that she would be expelled from the church if she went to authorities.

“We’re going to work out how you can not lose your daughter,” the attorney told the woman’s father, according to her testimony.

The focus on Scientology during the preliminary hearing, which stretched over four days and included lengthy discussions of internal church texts and doctrine, wasn’t lost on Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Charlaine Olmedo.

In ruling that there was sufficient evidence against Masterson to allow the case to proceed toward trial, Olmedo concluded that Scientology has “an expressly written doctrine” that “not only discourages, but prohibits” its members from reporting one another to law enforcement. The policy explained why several of the women did not report Masterson’s alleged crimes to the police for more than a decade, the judge found.

It was a type of public dissection that is unusual for the insular, enigmatic institution. The church, which counts a number of high-profile actors among its parishioners and operates a “Celebrity Centre” in the heart of Hollywood, has long been accused of going to extraordinary lengths to keep criminal allegations and other claims of wrongdoing in-house, experts said.

“The activities of Scientology have been so much a part of the evidence that’s being put forth as to why these women were not immediately going to law enforcement ... that it’s sort of brought the dirty laundry out into public view, which is exactly what Scientology does not want to have happen,” said Mike Rinder, the church’s former top spokesman, who left the faith in 2007.

In statements to The Times, the church denied it has a policy that dissuades members from reporting crimes, despite repeated references to Scientology texts during the hearing that appeared to include the directive. Karin Pouw, the church’s top spokeswoman, said Olmedo’s comments were “flat-out wrong” and dismissed the allegations against Masterson as “nothing more than a money shakedown” by women   who are also engaged in a civil suit against him.

The women, Pouw claimed without evidence, are parroting comments made by Leah Remini, an actress who became an outspoken critic of Scientology after breaking with it in 2013. Rinder is a co-executive producer with Remini of an A&E series about Scientology.

“Church policy explicitly demands Scientologists abide by all laws of the land, including the reporting of crimes. This is blatantly clear in the documents we understand were put before the Court — and many others,” Pouw wrote, repeatedly noting the church is not a party in the criminal case. “The Court either did not read them in full or ignored them. It should have done neither. Interpretation of Church doctrine by the courts is prohibited and the ruling is evidence of why.”

The case against Masterson, who starred in the 2000s sitcom “That ’70s Show,” is a relatively rare example of a Scientologist facing criminal charges based on accusations from other church members, Rinder said.

The church’s doctrine generally dismisses government institutions like courts as invalid and directs members to deal with complaints internally, said Rinder, who described himself as having worked closely with L. Ron Hubbard, the late science fiction author who founded the church. Knowing that contacting law enforcement can lead to excommunication and being cut off from family and friends who remain in the church, members often remain silent, according to Rinder and testimony delivered in court last week.

The case against Masterson, Rinder added, is also unusual for the outsize role the inner workings and rules of Scientology played at the preliminary hearing — a likely preview of what is to come if the case goes to trial. For the most part, Rinder said, cases involving the church have played out in civil court, where lawyers for Scientology have largely been successful in convincing judges that its practices are irrelevant.

“Scientology had managed to persuade courts … that you can’t inquire into our religious practices and beliefs and have managed to dissuade much discussion about Scientology,” Rinder said.

In a 2019 trial, lawyers for Scientology failed to shield the church from court scrutiny when defense attorneys for a man accused of beating his sister-in-law and her husband to death in Prescott, Ariz., argued that his belief in the religion drove him to commit the crime, according to a   report in the Arizona Republic.   In that case, a jury found Kenneth Wayne Thompson carried out the slayings to protect his nephew from receiving psychiatric treatment, which his attorneys argued is barred by the church’s doctrines.

Jurors heard testimony about the church’s origins, and how members use a polygraph-like “E-meter” during a process meant to lead to spiritual clarity. Both prosecutors and church lawyers opposed the strategy to involve Scientology in the case, but a judge allowed it. Attempts to subpoena church records and call former Scientologists to testify, including Remini, were unsuccessful, however.

Testimony at Masterson’s preliminary hearing at times was as much an explanation of the church’s processes and cryptic vocabulary as an accounting of the actor’s alleged sexual abuse.

One woman testified that she wrote a letter to an “International Justice Chief,” whom she described as the church’s ultimate authority on disputes between Scientologists, seeking permission to sue Masterson and report him to police. References were made in court to “knowledge reports,” “Things That Shouldn’t Be reports,” and “O.W. write-ups.” A prosecutor repeatedly evoked books and letters written by Hubbard.

When a woman explained during her testimony that “wog-law” is the church’s disdainful term for police and courts, Olmedo asked if Scientologists refer to nonmembers as “wogs,” much like wizards in the fictional universe of “Harry Potter” call non-magical people “muggles.”

“I suppose,” the woman responded. “It’s not a nice thing.”

The three women who have accused Masterson of rape were identified in court by their first names and initials of their last names. The Times generally does not name victims of alleged sexual assault unless they choose to fully identify themselves.

Masterson’s attorney, Thomas Mesereau, initially tried to minimize Scientology’s place in the case, asking Olmedo to issue an order limiting mentions of the church or its practices in court. He argued the restrictions were needed because of “religious bias” that investigators from the Los Angeles Police Department and Masterson’s accusers harbored against Scientology.

Olmedo slapped down the request, saying she found it “interesting” that Mesereau argued Scientology should have little to do with the case, but also referred to the church “88 times in a 29-page brief.”

As the hearing wore on, Mesereau appeared to change tactics, introducing church documents as evidence in an attempt to undercut the credibility of Masterson’s accusers.

While cross-examining one woman, he read from an “O.W. write-up” and suggested the church document amounted to an admission by the woman that her encounter with Masterson had been consensual and driven by her promiscuity. She fired back that the document had been written by church officials, who took comments she’d made to a Scientology counselor out of context and repurposed them to defend Masterson.

Mesereau also brought out a copy of “Introduction to Scientology Ethics,” a 528-page tome written by Hubbard, as he cross-examined another alleged victim.

When it was his turn to question the woman, Deputy Dist. Atty. Reinhold Mueller took the book from Mesereau and had it admitted into the court record. He and the woman read aloud passages that she said she understood were official church doctrine that discourages Scientologists from reporting fellow parishioners to law enforcement.

As he finished his questioning, Mueller handed the book back to Mesereau and thanked him, saying it was “very helpful.”

One of the women who testified at the hearing said that when she reported the alleged rape to church officials, she was told to read the chapter of “Introduction to Scientology Ethics” that instructs members not to go to police in such cases. In a one-on-one meeting, a church “ethics officer” told her “not to use the ‘R-word’” and said it would be a “high crime” to report another Scientologist to law enforcement, the woman testified.

She also said she was required to complete an “ethics course” because she had done “something to ... deserve what [Masterson] did to me.”

Rinder said that in recent years, the church’s responses to media inquiries had become “hermit-like.” The fact that the church issued a detailed defense of its practices to The Times is a sign the Masterson case has become a significant problem for the church, he said.

“The fact that it’s Danny Masterson from ‘That ’70s Show’ … it’s not just local media reporting on a local case, it blows it up way bigger. It becomes part of Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein,” he said, referring to the #MeToo movement, which has identified several celebrities as sexual predators. “That instantly puts it into a different zone. Within Scientology, this becomes panic stations, high alert.”


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MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
Sophomore Principal
1  seeder  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)    6 months ago


Sophomore Principal
2  Hallux    6 months ago

How did their ancestors ever get on the Ark ...

Professor Quiet
2.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Hallux @2    6 months ago
How did their ancestors ever get on the Ark ...

They didn't need to, Xenu kept them above the flood in his spaceship with his Galactic Confederacy.

No, really, I'm serious.....

MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
Sophomore Principal
2.1.1  seeder  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1    6 months ago


MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
Sophomore Principal
2.2  seeder  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Hallux @2    6 months ago

AW! Michael Pena and Jenna Elfman too? jrSmiley_54_smiley_image.gif

Professor Quiet
2.2.1  Ozzwald  replied to  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka) @2.2    6 months ago
AW! Michael Pena and Jenna Elfman too?

Celebrities in Scientology are treated like royalty.  They get anything they want, money, girls, power, and protection if anything comes back at them.


Professor Guide
3  evilgenius    6 months ago

Ahhh... Scientology - controlling people and the art of making money under the guise of religion. 

Paula Bartholomew
Professor Guide
3.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  evilgenius @3    6 months ago

They have been raping the bank accounts of the gullible for decades so it makes sense that one, if not more of their members switched to live prey.  Considering how Scientology came to be, I am not shocked that they are all idiots.

Professor Principal
3.2  Gordy327  replied to  evilgenius @3    6 months ago

Doesn't that describe many religions?

Dismayed Patriot
Professor Participates
4  Dismayed Patriot    6 months ago
"Three women took the stand to recount sexual assaults allegedly committed by the celebrity Scientologist, and each told similar stories of how church officials tried to stop them from reporting Masterson to police."

While this cults actions are horrific and everything about scientology and their secretive methods and controlling nature are reprehensible, I find little difference between their attempted cover-ups and those of the Catholic Church protecting pedophile priests for decades if not longer. The motivations appear to be the same, protect the Church no matter what the cost.

Professor Principal
4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4    6 months ago

Child sexual abuse occurs everywhere where adults (usually but not always men) have unsupervised access to children. This includes public school settings, coaching, scouting, foster care, youth sports groups, summer camp, etc. Also, the majority of child sexual abuse occurs within families.

It is highly likely that more children have been sexually abused in public schools than by Catholic priests over the decades. 

The John Jay report in 2005 concluded that 4 percent of Catholic priests had been accused of at least one instance of sexual abuse by a child.  That 4 percent figure is no higher than the adult male population at large. 

While no one can excuse the Catholic Church for its various cover ups of these incidents, there have also been coverups in public schools , known as passing the trash. 

I wish people like you would stop acting as if this is entirely an issue for the Catholic Church and no one else, because its not. 

Paula Bartholomew
Professor Guide
4.1.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    6 months ago

Don't forget the BSA and sport's coaches.

Dismayed Patriot
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4.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    6 months ago
Child sexual abuse occurs everywhere where adults (usually but not always men) have unsupervised access to children.

I agree, but the institutions they work at or for that give them such access don't as often protect them and cover up for their crimes moving them to some other town to avoid embarrassment while paying off the victims with the donations they've received from those victims parents and other parishioners.

Both Scientology and the Catholic Church employed vast resources in their cover ups to protect the Churches from scrutiny and apparently the case of Scientology, to protect their members careers which were financially beneficial to them.

"there have also been coverups in public schools"

True, but nothing I've seen has shown some massive institution involved in public school abuse cover ups and while incidents of abuse occur at almost the same rate, the number of cover ups cannot be compared.

I wish people like you would stop acting as if this is entirely an issue for the Catholic Church and no one else, because its not. 

I have never claimed this was somehow "entirely an issue for the Catholic Church", in fact my original comment was pointing out the similarities another secretive Church engaged in cover ups is having. I do believe the Catholic Church is the largest example of long term coordinated cover ups that went high up in their hierarchy all in the name of protecting themselves instead of protecting the innocent. If they had spent even half of those resources rooting out such abuse and turning those criminals over to law enforcement I would be praising their efforts even if they still had the same percent of sexual abuse that plagues other secular institutions. Their true fault lies not in the fact that the abuse occurred, it was their reaction to being notified of it and their treatment of the victims.

MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
Sophomore Principal
4.2  seeder  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4    6 months ago

I'm in agreement with JR and Paula on this one.

Professor Principal
5  Krishna    6 months ago

To believe in it, a person must be weird-- very weird indeed.

A while back I was curious and researched it a bit. It is a truly evil cult.

One of things I came across this video of Tom Cruise. I know most people on Social Media sites generally don't like to watch videos, but IMO this one is worth watching in its entirety (or maybe start at about 4 minutes into it) .

Its truly amazing!

He starts off talking like a rational human being, but after a while he really acts totally nuts. 

Paula Bartholomew
Professor Guide
5.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Krishna @5    6 months ago

I can't stand TC.  Besides the teeth thing, he is just bat shit crazy.

Thrawn 31
PhD Guide
6  Thrawn 31    6 months ago

What kills me is that people who believe in christianity, islam, judaism, and whatever else, can look at scientology and call it crazy, but do not see that their own myths are just as, if not more, insane. 

Paula Bartholomew
Professor Guide
6.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Thrawn 31 @6    6 months ago

At least the other religions did not come to be over a cocktail party bet like COS did.

Masters Guide
6.2  Drakkonis  replied to  Thrawn 31 @6    6 months ago
What kills me is that people who believe in christianity, islam, judaism, and whatever else, can look at scientology and call it crazy, but do not see that their own myths are just as, if not more, insane.

You're certainly welcome to your opinion and I'm not going to fault you for them but I'm curious to know why you would consider Judaism and Christianity to be as or more insane than Scientology? 


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