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Read full articleEd Mazza July 23, 2021, 4:22 AM·2 min read
A Republican governor in one of the states hit hardest by the delta variant of the coronavirus called out those who've refused the vaccine on Thursday.
"It's time to start blaming the unvaccinated folks, not the regular folks," said Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey, per CBS 42 in Birmingham. "It's the unvaccinated folks that are letting us down."
Ivey, who was vaccinated in December, also seemed to throw some shade at Fox News and other right-wing media outlets.
"Media, I want you to start reporting the facts," she said. "The new cases of COVID are because of unvaccinated folks. Almost 100 percent of the new hospitalizations are with unvaccinated folks. And the deaths are certainly occurring with the unvaccinated folks."
Although she didn't name names, Fox News hosts, such as Tucker Carlson, have attempted to cast doubt on the effectiveness of the coronavirus vaccines. Carlson said the notion that the U.S. was now in a pandemic of the unvaccinated was "simply untrue" and "a lie."
One Alabama ER doc recently shared the haunting tales of dying coronavirus patients who begged for the vaccine that they had previously refused.
"I hold their hand and tell them that I'm sorry, but it's too late," Dr. Brytney Cobia wrote on Facebook.
Alabama has seen a 311% jump in cases over the past two weeks, according to The New York Times, and a 92% increase in hospitalizations. The state's rate of 23 new cases per 100,000 people was tied for the ninth highest in the nation. Alabama is also tied for the lowest vaccination rate in the U.S.
Ivey has not exactly helped her case. Last week, she rejected a plan by President Joe Biden in which community-based volunteers would go door to door to encourage COVID-19 vaccination and offer help to those who need it.
She also signed a bill banning "vaccine passports" in her state. That same law also banned businesses from requiring vaccination or even asking about vaccination status and banned schools, including colleges, from requiring the vaccine despite the fact that Alabama schools currently require multiple shots, with certain exemptions allowed.
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Earlier this week, Ivey rejected a call for wearing masks in schools that was made by the American Academy of Pediatrics.
This article originally appeared on HuffPost and has been updated.
While there are various reasons for citizens to lag this far behind in vaccinations respectfully, let us not 'kid' this discussion about "GOP governor says it time to blame the unvaccinated for pandemic surge" as not being about red-state conservatives and influencers telling their constituents and anybody who would listen to them not to consider getting vaccinated. Because it did so happen and we have numerous news articles, shows, and statements regarding this activity.
Of course the unvaccinated are to blame for the Covid surge. More specifically, it's those who refuse to be vaccinated and/or try to discourage others from getting vaccinated and spreading misinformation. Those who refuse to take proper precautions such as wearing masks or distancing when it's indicated also share some of the blame. Not only are they largely to blame for the surge, but they're also the reason why we can't beat Covid and have new variants emerging, which threaten to undo the progress made so far. It's really simple: get vaccinated!
Get vaccinated! Emphatically.
And yet, in this day and age where vaccines are proven to control or eradicate diseases, there are grown adults acting like irrational children by refusing to get vaccinated or making up conspiracy theories about it. It boggles the mind.
I was thinking the same thing this morning. Conservative children need to lead their parents out of the loop of the past and into the future! Go kids!
Some people seem afraid of the future and prefer to live or return to the past.
Gov. Kay Ivey also called out right-wing media disinformation about the vaccine.
Uh-Oh! She's gonna be in deep trouble!
(I predict that soon Trump will begin to take harsh measures against her...probably even actually...starting to call her names!
(Oh...the Horror of it all!!
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A southerner can handle Donald Trump (bless his heart!). Which is why it is perplexing as to why some of them walk on eggshells around him. It is clear to me that they do so voluntarily or in cahoots!
I am still working on how to compare the construction: "unvaccinated people" to "regular folks." Commonly one would state:
Is Gov. Ivey being cheeky (playfully rude), calling out the pretentious (unvaccinated) people, or more likely she is pointing out the "down to earth" nature of regular (vaccinated) people in her state.
Governor, DON'T try to shift the blame! You and your cohorts could have spoken up months ago!
Even when some conservatives individually or collectively were getting vaccinated, they yet carried on publicly-at-large about freedom to 'own' liberals through tamping down vaccination goals and non-participation.
I would point the finger to the whole ruling class. Its economic interests have driven the entire 'back to school/work' campaign from at every point in the pandemic.
The very substantial UN-vacinated population will prevent the virus' eradication and ensure the evolution of increasingly vaccine-resistant strains. But our vainglorious politicians are still responsible. They refused to take up the fight to eradicate the virus.
Of course they wish to avoid prosecution for perpetuating this crime against humanity. Of course they seek an alternative scapegoat to crucify in the place of their bipartisan anti-social policies. If you weaponize a virus against your own population, you really can't expect to escape prosecution for the resulting deaths. But it is quaintly human of them to try.
Great comment.
Now they worry about losing "patronage" to disease. Why does that one thing have to be s-p-e-l-l-e-d o-u-t to some conservatives?
Gov Kay's concern for public health would be a good deal more credible if her state had voted for Medicaid expansion under Obamacare.
These red-state conservatives are 'hooked' on the horns of a dilemma. They set this 'in-state" crisis up without proper thought. Now VOTERS are sick, hospitalized, and dying over being locked in an unvaccination mindset. To be clear, there are some liberals involved but the numbers are relatively insignificant. (Though I would like for them to re/consider getting shots too.)
The
RepublicanAmerican Fascist Party has shown its indifference to the health of its supporters ever since it tried to prevent Obamacare from becoming law. Then came its opposition to the expansion of Medicaid. For seven years, theRepublicanAmerican Fascist Party chanted "Repeal and Replace" without ever actually proposing anything.The Trump Administration's opposition to expertise of any kind led it to disastrous management of the worst sanitary crisis in the nation's history. No proposition was made to improve Obamacare.
Nothing the
RepublicanAmerican Fascist Party has done since the 2020 election has shown any change.Clarification, please. (Smile.)
The other candidate would be the post-WWI Spanish flu epidemic, which cost something like 500 000 to 850 000 deaths. Covid has cost over 600 000... and is still costing hundreds every day. 290 yesterday.
Hmm. "Sanitation crisis" as in our unfortunate fallen dead needing removal from the "theater." I can see that.
"sanitary" is not "sanitation"
Okay? Is there more to be added to this?
Ach du lieber Frau Ivey .... better send out the brown shirts to round them all up for the vaccination camps .....
Do you insist on driving on the left? Or do you submit to the freedom-killing government requirement to drive on the right?
Lol ... hilarious Bob .... thanks for the laugh this morning.
All i can say about driving is ...... i can't drive ........ 55!
It's a simple question. Do you refuse the "obligation" to drive on the right?
Be happy to answer your question when it is on topic and/or if you start a new seed specifically about driving laws.
Be that as it may, the comment stands
I find Bob's question relevant and interesting, if you truly wish to answer it: Please do.
Interesting, i don't, since it IS clearly off topic.
Your choice not to answer. The floor was 'open' to you.
Okay, since you seeded the article i'll answer your approved off topic.
Driving on the right side of the road in the USA is the law. I may or may not like that law but it is the law just the same, so if i don't follow it there may be legal consequences.
Getting a COVID shot IS NOT the law and therefore is not a legal equivalent in any manner.
I'll leave a choice of a response to Bob. Thank you very much for sharing. (Smile.)
No opinion yourself?
Discipline is the thing.
Illuminate please ....
Patience, please. I have left an opening for the original asker to walk through. (Smile.)
Nice duck and dodge.
Maybe he should move to England where driving on the left is normal.
Nah... he'd drive on the right...
Nice comment if it made any sense at all but alas ... it doesn't ring true at all.
Nah, but you stick to that fairy-tale. I know you will.
My opinion is this: Sparty On, you do not insist on driving on the wrong side of the road.
As the consequences of using the wrong side of the road to transit would be swift and highly probable disastrous. Driving on a right or left side of a road in any country is not a like or dislike for me, it is simply a mode of orderly progression.
The activity of injecting a drug into the bloodstream bundled with "an emergency use authorization" and personal choice is not solid ground for a law to establish itself. Thus, being not a legal matter, we search for other ways of processing and managing individual health and wellness 'outcomes' during a sweeping, persistent, pandemic using our mental tools of wisdom, commonsense, and data. The combined three of the aforementioned, are leading millions to acceptance of the vaccines as a way out of a COVID sickness, hospitalization, or death.
Can you translate: "Ach du liber Frau Ivey" into the English language for us?
Easily googled for anyone who is truly just intellectually curious .......
ach du lieber
Thank you for the German translation. You are helping to make it happen.
If the Nazi's had just rounded up all the Jews, disabled and undesirables in their society to inoculate them against a global pandemic, I don't think we'd have such a bad view of them today. Your false equivalence is just that, false.
Besides, Ivey isn't even suggesting such a thing, she's simply admitting that the resurgence of the pandemic can squarely be blamed on the huge unvaccinated population which is made up of mostly right wing Republican zealots. She's merely acknowledging the truth and refusing to keep her head shoved up dirty Donald's balloon knot.
Lol ..... it was hyperbole but i understand if certain reader biases made that unclear.
Hyperbole: noun - exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.
It's somewhat difficult these days to distinguish between conservative Republican hyperbole and their actual beliefs due to the large number of them that believe things that are demonstrably untrue. Many conservative Republicans believe in the Qanon conspiracy theories, a young earth and that Trump won the election in 2020, how can we just assume that anything that comes out of their mouths is hyperbole?
Nah, it's not difficult at all with a clear and unbiased mind.
A rare animal indeed these days in the vocal liberal community
How about those unvaccinated individuals that are making it harder for vaccinated people to function liberally in and out publicly? Any advice for how to remedy any of that?
Move to a country with a more tyrannical government. I hear Wuhan is nice in July.
Or you can voluntarily limit your own exposure to such things and stay here. i didn't have physical contact with my father, who is in a dementia ward, for over year. it sucked balls but guess what?
He is still alive to hug today
Let me sound you out on this since you bring it up as an anecdote:
1. What if your father does not survived a "struggle" over unvaccinated versus vaccinated on his Ward?
What if a vaccinated staff person infected nasally with enough transmittable virus 'supplied' by an unvaccinated individual were to have physical contact with your father?
Does such a scenario change anything for you?
Why should any citizen of this country have to leave his or her homeland in order to have health and welfare safety protections? Surely, you are aware that China does not operate under U.S. laws, policies, or customs. Our constitution makes promises to the citizens of this country.
What about the freedom to resolve our issues as civilized members of this country and humanity?
" Some 56% of Republicans believe that QAnon, a far-right conspiracy theory, is mostly or partly true"
" 55 percent of Republicans, compared to 34 percent of Democrats and Independents , reject evolutionary biology and accept some form of Ussher's young earth creationism."
" 53% of Republicans believe Trump, their party's nominee, is the “true president”
So which "fake claims about Republicans" are you referring to?
I guess instead of "Many conservative Republicans" I should have said "Most conservative Republicans".
I would love to see him move to China and defy their CV protocols. He would find himself sealed in his apartment.
Literally sealed too. China (and India) have the additional people-power!
Not applicable because the facility requires that all people who work there and visit there, get vaccinated. In my case a good example of getting vaccinated for other people and not yourself. I'd have been on the fence about it if it wasn't for that.
People quit over it that didn't want to get vaccinated and i fully support their right to make that choice. You see, i tend to error on the side of liberty every time. A companies right/liberty to make that requirement and an employees right/liberty to not work there if they don't agree with the company.
You asked for advise and i gave it to you. It's as simple as that.
Thanks for providing more empirical evidence to support my point Paula.
You're the best.
What if your father does not survived a "struggle" over unvaccinated versus vaccinated on his Ward?
What if a vaccinated staff person i nfected nasally with enough transmittable virus 'supplied' by an unvaccinated individual were to have physical contact with your father?
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You did not answer the question above . For Your Information.
1. A REQUIREMENT is a mandate .
2. You are describing your parent as living in a HERMETICALLY SEALED ("airtight") environment.
3. A vaccinated person can get COVID-19 and test positive for it (even in a ward).
The problem exist all 'around' the edges of your parent's ward ("bubble").
Actually you responded with glibness. It is not advice if it is impractical and does not fit the essentials of the question.
I've already answered all your questions. To reiterate,I error on the side of liberty. So did my father when he was in his right mind but right now he doesn't know a COVID from a Cadillac.
Incidentally, the facility he is in, about 600 patients strong has lost on one person to COVID since this all started. One. Not bad for a NON-HERMETICALLY SEALED environment eh?
Now i'm done talking about my father from here on out and will answer no more questions about him. ....
I disagree on all your points and didn't realize you were so thin skinned CB ...... noted for future exchanges.
You added your father to this, not me! Skin has nothing to do with shutting down a valid discussion (because you can't have your way with it). I realize you like to engage in verbal 'sparring' for its own sake. Noted and I will engage accordingly.
If the 'ward' or facility your parent is on is only allowed (proven) vaccinated staff and visitors (you say it is so), then it is hermetically sealed for all intents and purposes. Oh, and such a requirement is de facto a mandate. Even so, the delta variant of the Coronavirus can enter in to the ward through the nasal pharynges of genuine vaccinated staff and visitors.
Assuming these statements are reported accurately, Governor Ivey is a double-minded leader. She charges Alabama's unvaccinated population of being problematic for the state, but how is she helping them to "be best" overall?
And a volume of "unvaccinated folks" in unison shout back, 'We were led to exercise our freedom to not get vaccinated by our (red-state) media!'
If you see the glitch-monster- refresh your screen and continue to make it happen around here. We are all Winners!
I have also just hit edit comment then just cancel it. It works too.
JUST IN: Ted Cruz Introduces
Anti-Vaccine Passport Amendment, Slams CDC Mask Mandate For Vaccinated
At today's Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) called for an amendment to a bill to prohibit US participation in a vaccine passport [for Americans traveling abroad]
@6 Minutes into the video Senator Cruz expresses:
1. A desire for no masks mandate requirement,2. no vaccine mandate requirement, and3. no vaccine passports requirement for Americans traveling abroad.
Is Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) helping or hindering vaccination consciousness in our country?
Ex-Fox reporter reveals why Tucker Carlson is lying about vaccines
This video is telling in so many ways about Tucker Carlson, Fox News, vaccine 'hesitancy,' and insider info about opinion anchors in prime time FOX News slots! Carl Cameron, former Fox News Reporter. . . take it away.
You know I thought about something last night. The big deal is those that get the shot are what is talked about most when the "percentage of Americans with the vaccine" thing. The one thing NOT taken into account is those who got Covid, got sick and/or hospitalized, and survived. They have the antibodies and should be considered in the percentage of immune too. That "percentage" number would go up pretty quick.
That's a good point but those people are being told to get the vaccine anyway. Who knows if that's a good idea or not. We have no long term data regarding Covid 19 or the vaccines.
And natural immunity 'recipients' are being asked to get the vaccine to 'boost' or lengthen their immune response beyond the (natural) six months or so presently.
[R]ed-state conservatives and influencers telling their constituents and anybody who would listen to them not to consider getting vaccinated.
Karl Cameron (above @ 11 ) explains Laura Ingraham is a "simple" talking head for FOX NEWS interests: profit and "asses in seats" - Sell! Sell! Sell!
DePARTMENT Of OoPS: I need to share a link above:
Conservative media offers mixed messages on COVID-19 vaccine
By DAVID BAUDER July 20, 2021
Yet Hannity followed up his statement by interviewing a woman protesting her college’s requirement that students be vaccinated, a segment appealing to people skeptical of the immunization push.(AP Photo/Frank Franklin II, File)
TrumpTrueBelievers are cannon-fodder. They exist for the benefit of their Master, of course, but also to support (financially) an army of vampires, from Fox and the even further-right crazies, to all the individuals who sell books and baseball caps and coffee cups and all the other merch.
The Master cares nothing for the well-being of TrumpTrueBelievers. Nor does Fox or any of the merchants insist that temple. It's a one-way parasitic relationship.