Minnesota man freed by Kamala Harris-supported bail fund now charged with murder

  

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Via:  vic-eldred  •  one month ago  •  44 comments

By:   Michael Ruiz (Fox News)

Minnesota man freed by Kamala Harris-supported bail fund now charged with murder
A bail fund backed by Vice President Kamala Harris helped free an alleged domestic abuser who is now accused of murder.

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A bail fund once backed by Vice President Kamala Harris helped free an alleged domestic abuser who is now accused of murder.

George Howard, 48, allegedly became involved in a road rage altercation on an Interstate 94 entrance ramp before he shot another driver, according to Minneapolis police - weeks after bailing out on domestic assault charges.

Surveillance video recorded the moments when the driver of a blue BMW confronted Howard, who was driving a white Volvo, according to St. Paul's KSTP-TV. The victim can be seen punching Howard, then collapsing.

The victim, later identified as Luis Damian Martinez Ortiz, 38, got back into his car, then drove into the median. He was pronounced dead at the hospital with a gunshot wound to the chest, according to city officials.

Howard had been out on $11,500 bond in connection with a domestic assault case since Aug. 6, court records show. That's when the Minnesota Freedom Fund bailed him out.

On Aug. 29, he was charged with two counts of second-degree murder in connection with the interstate shooting.

The Minnesota Freedom Fund tweeted Friday admitting to its role putting Howard back on the streets. On Tuesday, the thread was inaccessible on Twitter but preserved by the Internet Archive.

"We are aware of reports of the tragic and fatal shooting in Minneapolis earlier this week allegedly involving George Howard, an individual the Minnesota Freedom Fund had previously provided with bail support," the group wrote. "MFF believes that every individual who has been arrested by the law enforcement is innocent until proven guilty, and if a judge deems them eligible for bail, they should not have to wait in jail simply because they don't have the same income or access to resources as others."

The group said it was monitoring the case and reviewing its policies.

"Under new leadership, MFF has implemented changes to its policies and procedures, and we will continue to assess them to ensure that we are being responsive to the safety and needs of our community," it said in a follow-up tweet.

Harris had promoted the bail group during the 2020 campaign, urging her Twitter followers to donate to the group in June of that year. A spokesperson for the vice president declined to comment Tuesday.

"If you're able to, chip in now to the @MNFreedomFund to help post bail for those protesting on the ground in Minnesota," she wrote, linking to the group's donation site on ActBlue, a Democratic PAC.

Once funds are received the donors have no say in whose bail they go to covering, and the Freedom Fund has drawn criticism along the way, with reports that it had been bailing out violent criminals cropping up as early as last August.

Minneapolis-based FOX 9 reported that the fund spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to free an alleged knife murderer and a convicted rapist who was facing charges of sexual assault and kidnapping, among others.


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    one month ago

I hope I haven't upset anyone by posting the picture of murderer George Howard. It came with the article.

Kamala Harris (pronounced Kam-ala) set up a fund to help post bail for "those protesting on the ground in Minnesota." (aka the rioters)

Believe it or not, she is our Vice president!

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    one month ago

Nope, i still can't believe it .....

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @1.1    one month ago

After all, she had the desired qualifications - both of them!

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.2  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    one month ago

You Go Girl!

And, of course, "WOOF!"

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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1.2.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Thomas @1.2    one month ago

Shut the fuck up. How many cons have you had to evalaute? 

Shut the fuck up. 

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.2.2  Thomas  replied to  Thrawn 31 @1.2.1    one month ago

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Hit a nerve?

I have sat on several juries, one for a murder trial, but have never had to evaluate convicted felons for potential release. That noted, the alleged perpetrator of these actions has not been convicted of either at this time. Do I agree with the MFF's decision to bail out George Howard? I cannot say because I do not know the man's history or disposition, but I tend to disagree with bail when one is charged with a violent crime. It is certainly tragic that a man was killed in any case. 

When we set aside the hyperbolic acrobatics some go through to tar and feather their opposition, both here on NT and at large, we can then look at the issues instead of the histrionics. 

  • Kamala Harris promoted the Minnesota Freedom Fund by name to help the protestors who had been arrested. Not Rioters, as Vic would have you believe. Protestors. This promotion is the genesis of my comment,"You Go Girl!" (This is also Vic's first Conflation: Kamala Harris likes rioters so she bails them out .) 
  • The MFF bails out people who have been arrested and charged with crimes under the supposition of "innocent until proven guilty."
  • If a judge sets a bail, then the judge believes that this person can be safely freed to await trial at a location other than jail. That is just the way the system works. If the crime is extremely heinous or the charged suspect wealthy, the judge may impose a very high bail to offset the chances of achieving that bail or not continuing with the trial process.
  • George Howard's bail is paid in part or full by the MFF for the domestic assault charge.   
  • George Howard was assaulted after he was released, shoots his attacker, which later kills same.
  • George Howard is arrested and charged with two counts of second degree murder.
  • FOX news comes along and helps Vic by posting to their site an article containing the basic information above and the Headline "

    Minnesota man freed by Kamala Harris-supported bail fund now charged with murder

Can you spot the second conflation? It was handed to Vic, so he can't be blamed (?) entirely for it. I will spell it out for our less agile readers: Kamala Harris supports the freeing of murderers and career criminals....  

This article is emblematic of the problems in America today. It takes events and, regardless of the actual relationship between the two, tries to cram them together to create the appearance of bad character on a politicians part, and then the minions of one cult or the other run around and repeat lies and exaggerations to each other, gleefully licking their collective chops, all the while drowning in disinformation. That is why it earned the "WOOF!"

 
 
 
Ronin2
Masters Quiet
2  Ronin2    one month ago

Democrats, making the world a safer place for criminals and terrorists everywhere.

Note: Unless you are a US citizen belonging to the far right. Then no law is so minor that you will not be held for months w/o trial; and charged with the maximum penalty available.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @2    one month ago

MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough: Joe Biden “can’t protect us across the world, Democrats can’t protect our street, and Democrats can’t protect us at the border”


Republicans are going to campaign on that. Watch for it!

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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2.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  Ronin2 @2    one month ago

Spoken from some real, no shit background here. Ronin, how many years in the military or law enforcement do you have? Do you actually have any fucking clue what you are babbling about? 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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2.3  Thrawn 31  replied to  Ronin2 @2    one month ago

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SteevieGee
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3  SteevieGee    one month ago

FTA:

Surveillance video recorded the moments when the driver of a blue BMW confronted Howard, who was driving a white Volvo, according to St. Paul's KSTP-TV. The victim can be seen punching Howard, then collapsing.

Sounds to me like he was standing his ground, defending himself.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.1  Ronin2  replied to  SteevieGee @3    one month ago

He will get his day in court to try and prove it. Unfortunately his victim will not.

Minnesota is not a stand your ground state.

Minnesota isn't a stand your ground state. Rather, it's a duty to retreat state which means that you must back away from confrontation if it's possible. The state doesn't have a castle law per se, but it does recognize the principles of the doctrine because Minnesota law allows you to use deadly force, including shooting an intruder , to prevent a felony from occurring in your home.

So unless he tried to retreat, and can prove it, he committed murder.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Expert
4  Hal A. Lujah    one month ago

What is the point of this article?  It seems like an obvious attempt to shade Harris, but you might want to reconsider such a stupid tactic.  There is a loooong history of politicians who granted early release to someone who went on to murder someone.  Hint: they aren’t all D.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    one month ago

If he wasnt black it wouldnt even have been seeded. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    one month ago

Projection on your part.

 
 
 
dennis smith
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4.1.2  dennis smith  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    one month ago

Racist comment on your part. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    one month ago

"If he wasnt black it wouldnt even have been seeded."

Truth!

 
 
 
squiggy
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4.1.4  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    one month ago

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Tessylo
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4.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  squiggy @4.1.4    one month ago

How fucking ignorant.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.5    one month ago

Nope. Spot on.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.1.7  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    one month ago

That he is black is not the issue.  Unless of course you into race baiting.

That he was released by a bail fund program backed by the VP of the United States is the real story...

THAT'S the real reason it was seeded John.   A real inconvenient truth for some here .....

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.5    one month ago

Not spot on.  IGNORANT.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2  Texan1211  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    one month ago

No, not all D. But just about every one of them faced criticism for it. Is  Harris supposed to be immune from criticism?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Expert
4.2.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2    one month ago

So it’s just a cheap shot then.  Finally we agree on something!

There are systems in place to determine who should be released early to make room for incoming offenders.  Since we don’t live in the movie Minority Report there’s no guarantees that early release parolees will not become recidivist, no matter the politics of who signs off on the decision.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.2  Texan1211  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.2.1    one month ago
So it’s just a cheap shot then.

No, just accurate.

 Finally we agree on something!

I have no fucking clue what you are reading, but I do know for damn sure it can't be my posts.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Masters Quiet
4.2.3  Ronin2  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.2.1    one month ago

Did you read the damn article at all? They didn't bail out some non violent criminal.

Howard had been out on $11,500 bond in connection with a domestic assault case since Aug. 6, court records show. That's when the Minnesota Freedom Fund bailed him out. On Aug. 29, he was charged with two counts of second-degree murder in connection with the interstate shooting.

So he going to trial for domestic assault, Was freed on Aug 6, and by Aug 29 added two accounts of second degree murder. Sounds like a damn saint! 

If you had read further you would find this wasn't the first time they bailed out those alleged of doing violence.

with reports that it had been bailing out violent criminals cropping up as early as last August. Minneapolis-based FOX 9 reported that the fund spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to free an alleged knife murderer and a convicted rapist who was facing charges of sexual assault and kidnapping, among others.

Bailing out a convicted rapist that was facing charges on sexual assault and kidnapping? WTF, who bails out someone like that and gets them back on the streets so they can cause more violence before their trial date?

Harris backed this organization because they were properly woke and bailing out the Democrat's rioting foot soldiers. She wasn't smart enough to do some research into the group. Of course bailing out violent rioters should have been her first damn clue!

Democrats never take responsibility for anything, ever! It is always someone else's fault.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Expert
4.2.4  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Ronin2 @4.2.3    one month ago

Did you read the damn article at all?

Yes, I did.  My point was simply that politicians on both sides have been guilty of trusting the incarcerated enough to allow them early conditional freedom.  We incarcerate more citizens than any country on earth.  Shit happens, so stop pretending that it’s always a Democrat who makes the bad judgement call.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5  Sean Treacy    one month ago

Treating looters and violent rioters like heroes...

The Democratic way until January 2021

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    one month ago

Dream on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 
 
Kathleen
Professor Principal
6  Kathleen    one month ago

Awwww... it looks like some people are embarrassed by this. Can’t blame them. : )

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1  Tessylo  replied to  Kathleen @6    one month ago

Who's embarrassed? Like Hal said 'it's a cheap shot'.  We know why it was even posted in the first place.  

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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6.2  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Kathleen @6    one month ago

Embarrassed by what?  Kamala Harris supported the Minnesota Freedom Fund , not the man. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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6.2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @6.2    one month ago

Indirectly, she did..

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @6.2.1    one month ago

No, she didn't.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @6.2    one month ago
Kamala Harris supported the Minnesota Freedom Fund , not the man. 

So Harris supported an organization which helped free the man.

Good pick, Kamala.

Douche.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @6.2    one month ago
Embarrassed by what?  Kamala Harris supported the Minnesota Freedom Fund , not the man. 

Christ, that is like saying that no one should have been ashamed to vote for David Duke because they were voting for the man, not the KKK.

 
 
 
dennis smith
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6.2.5  dennis smith  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.4    one month ago

Perfectly stated.

 
 
 
Ender
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6.2.6  Ender  replied to  dennis smith @6.2.5    one month ago

Can you take me higher

To a place where blind men see

...

 
 
 
squiggy
Freshman Quiet
6.2.7  squiggy  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @6.2    one month ago
Kamala Harris supported the Minnesota Freedom Fund , not the man. 

If you fertilize the strawberry patch, you'll find bigger strawberries.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.8  Tessylo  replied to  dennis smith @6.2.5    one month ago

No.  Not at all.  

 
 
 
dennis smith
Masters Silent
6.2.9  dennis smith  replied to  Ender @6.2.6    one month ago

Are you blind?

 
 
 
TOM PA
Freshman Silent
7  TOM PA    one month ago

    

Not really a rebuttal, but an interesting take on the subject of bail funds.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
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7.1  mocowgirl  replied to  TOM PA @7    one month ago

Good video.

I completely agree with the point that bail should be affordable to accused AND that it is the judge's responsibility to NOT grant bail to anyone who is deemed to be a threat to others.

I really don't understand how any judge could have granted bail to this career criminal in Florida.  

Florida deputies attacked at traffic stop, suspect shot and killed  | Daily Mail Online
  • Dashcam footage shows the moment Brevard County deputies Brian Potters and Tyler Thoman were ambushed by a gunman, prompting a shootout
  • Shooter Paris Wilder, 38, was left dead and Potters was severely injured
  • The officers were doing a routine traffic stop when Wilder jumped out of the car 'with a small stock AR-15-styled rifle' and started shooting
  • He then used the butt of the gun to beat Potters, prompting Thoman to use fatal force to 'eliminate the threat'
  • Wilder was a career criminal with 40 previous arrests and the Sheriff's Office said he was out on bond avoiding another arrest when the shooting took place

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
PhD Guide
8  Thrawn 31    one month ago

Yeah, Howard be fucked and rightly so.

 
 
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