Photographer Who Captured Migrant Photos Says Agents Didn't Use Whips on Anyone

  

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Via:  texan1211  •  3 weeks ago  •  28 comments

By:   Andre J. Ellington (MSN)

Photographer Who Captured Migrant Photos Says Agents Didn't Use Whips on Anyone
"Some of the Haitian men started running, trying to go around the horses. I've never seen them whip anyone," said the photographer.

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A New Mexico photographer who captured images of Haitian migrants evacuating a U.S migrant camp is addressing the controversy surrounding Border Patrol agents using whips on the immigrants while on horseback.

On Friday, Paul Ratje of New Mexico spoke to KTSM and told the outlet that the photos, which were taken on September 19, aren't what they appear to be.

"Some of the Haitian men started running, trying to go around the horses," Ratje said.

Ratje said that he and his colleagues didn't witness Border Patrol agents using whips on any of the migrants.

"I've never seen them whip anyone," Ratje said. "He was swinging it...but it can be misconstrued when you're looking at the picture."

Ratje is a photographer based in Las Cruces. He's been in Del Rio since September 17 and has primarily taken photos on the Mexican side of the U.S. border.

After the photos surfaced online, U.S. officials said they plan to launch a full investigation into what has taken place at the border. On September 20, both Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas and Border Patrol Chief Raul Ortiz stated that they didn't see anything wrong in the footage and photos of the alleged incident on September 17.

The Homeland Security Secretary stated that 600 Homeland Security employees were ordered to go to Del Rio to help remove migrants and refugees from the United States. Mayorkas also mentioned that the U.S. would expedite the process of continuous flights to Haiti and other adjacent countries.

According to Brandon Judd, who serves as President of the National Border Patrol Council, the number of migrants at the bridge is 14,872 as of September 16.

Mayorkas issued a stark warning to any migrants looking to seek asylum from their home base in the U.S.

"If you come to the United States illegally, you will be returned. Your journey will not succeed, and you will be endangering your life and your family's life," said Mayorkas via the Associated Press.

Meanwhile, Ortiz said that the U.S. is on pace to have the migrants removed in an acceptable amount of time.

"We're achieving our goals; we're getting there and getting to a point where we can manage the population here," Ortiz said to the Associated Press. "We are already seeing a quickly diminished [population] and will continue to see that over the coming days."

On Friday, President Joe Biden told reporters that "people will pay" as a result of Border Patrol using horses to block migrants from crossing the Rio Grande River.

"It was horrible, what you saw to see them treat people like they did," Biden told reporters. "Those people will pay, there's an investigation underway now and there will be consequences. ...It's an embarrassment, but it's beyond an embarrassment—it's dangerous, it's wrong, it sends the wrong message around the world and sends the wrong message at home. It's simply not who we are."

The Department of Homeland Security has since banned the use of horses in Del Rio.

As of September 24, Judge Lewis Owens told the Associated Press that the last group of 225 Haitian migrants at the Del Rio, Texas camp will be removed by the end of the day.

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
1  seeder  Texan1211    3 weeks ago

I wonder if Biden or his handlers will ever admit to overreacting to a photo or video, and when can the BP agents expect an apology from Biden?

I guess the knee-jerk reaction of Biden was learned through his time as VP.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Junior Quiet
1.1  Jack_TX  replied to  Texan1211 @1    3 weeks ago

I wonder if we'll end up with another beer in the Rose Garden invitation.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1    3 weeks ago

I just have to wonder how they allowed Joe to go off-script on this, or was THAT the script?

Who is in charge?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
1.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @1    3 weeks ago

Great seed.  We need to resist Biden and the lamestream media’s attempts to make our heroic border patrol into villains when it’s the illegal aliens who are breaking our laws upon touching our territory.  

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2  JBB    3 weeks ago

They whipped people with something other whips!

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Guide
2.1  1stwarrior  replied to  JBB @2    3 weeks ago

And you know that how???  Oh yeah - conjecture.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.1  JBB  replied to  1stwarrior @2.1    3 weeks ago

I saw it on TV. They were using their reigns...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.1.1    3 weeks ago

First off, they are called REINS.

Reign is what a monarch does.

And you clearly saw no one being whipped.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Masters Quiet
2.2  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @2    3 weeks ago

Sure, the photographer is lying!

Does the left ever get tired of lying, and being wrong?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.2.1  JBB  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2    3 weeks ago

The photos of people being whipped do not lie.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.2.1    3 weeks ago
The photos of people being whipped do not lie.

Please post these photos you claim to know about.

Got a link?

Why would anyone disregard the words of someone there actually TAKING photos???????

Why did Mayorka say he saw nothing wrong with them?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.2.4  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2    3 weeks ago

Sadly, no.  They don’t ever do tire of that.  It’s who and what they are.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.3  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2    3 weeks ago

PROVE IT.

And now, since you can NOT, that post is dismissed as false.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.3.1  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @2.3    3 weeks ago

original

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.3.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.3.1    3 weeks ago

Obviously, (and rather sadly) you have never seen anything whipped.

Any one can look at that picture and tell no one is being whipped in it.

Try again!

But you know it is futile, so why bother?

STILL FALSE

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.3.3  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @2.3.2    3 weeks ago

originaloriginal

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.3.4  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.3.3    3 weeks ago

And here I asked for pictures of someone being whipped and you provide this crap jrSmiley_115_smiley_image.png

LMMFAO!

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.3.5  Tacos!  replied to  JBB @2.3.3    3 weeks ago

Where is the part where the rider’s rein actually makes contact with a human body?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.3.6  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.5    3 weeks ago

No where. I don;t know why he bothered with his little pictures.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.3.7  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.3.3    3 weeks ago

Do you believe EVERYTHING Biden tells you?

Or will you trust what your eyes tell you that you see in those pictures--no one being whipped?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
PhD Expert
2.3.8  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @2.3.1    3 weeks ago

Rider has a hold of the shirt

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.3.9  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Greg Jones @2.3.8    3 weeks ago

he would rather believe what Biden told him rather than believe what his own eyes see.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.3.10  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @2.3.3    3 weeks ago

I don't see any contact. Hey is that litter and shit I see all over the ground?  Get those illegal squatters out of there!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.3.11  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @2.3.1    3 weeks ago

He grabbed the illegal invaders shirt with his hand and guided/directed him back to the River.  He let go of that rein in order to do that.  No whip, no lashing.  Just the border patrol officer correctly doing his job 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Expert
2.4  Tacos!  replied to  JBB @2    3 weeks ago

You did not see anyone get whipped.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.4.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tacos! @2.4    3 weeks ago

No, but, hey, he DID see people on horseback, so it MUST mean they whipped someone because Joe told him so!!!

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Guide
2.4.2  1stwarrior  replied to  Texan1211 @2.4.1    3 weeks ago

384

Note - a LAWBREAKER,  ILLEGALLY entering the U.S., is not being whipped in any form, shape or fashion.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Expert
3  Tacos!    3 weeks ago

It doesn’t matter what the photographer says and it doesn’t matter what any “investigation” shows. Politicians and media will keep repeating the lie, especially at election time. It will just become a thing “everybody knows” no matter untrue it is.

 
 
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