Trump holds fast to his election lies as the GOP establishment hugs him tighter

  

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Via:  john-russell  •  2 weeks ago  •  28 comments

By:   Meridith McGraw (MSN)

Trump holds fast to his election lies as the GOP establishment hugs him tighter
The former president went to Iowa on Saturday and was embraced by the dean of the GOP Senate.

"The bulk of Trump's speech was devoted to his baseless claim the 2020 election was stolen — a false belief that was supported by the crowd who broke out into chants of "Trump won! Trump won! Trump won!" "

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DES MOINES, IOWA — Nine months ago, Republicans were questioning Donald Trump's place as the lead fixture of their party. Saturday night provided the clearest evidence yet that they want him right there.

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Not one year removed from surviving a second impeachment, the former president rallied before thousands of his most loyal supporters across the Iowa state fairgrounds on a balmy Midwestern evening. He regaled them with his stories from the White House, his falsehoods and complaints about the 2020 election results, and his criticisms of the Biden administration on everything from immigration to the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

The bulk of Trump's speech was devoted to his baseless claim the 2020 election was stolen — a false belief that was supported by the crowd who broke out into chants of "Trump won! Trump won! Trump won!"

But the notable elements were not what was said by Trump, but who was there with him. Appearing alongside the ex-president was a who's who of influential Republicans in the Hawkeye state, including Sen. Chuck Grassley and Gov. Kim Reynolds, Iowa Reps. Mariannette Miller-Meeks and Ashley Hinson, former acting attorney general Matt Whitaker and Iowa GOP chairman Jeff Kaufmann.

Trump has held rallies since leaving the White House. But never have elected Republicans of such tenure and stature appeared with him. And the presence of Grassley in particular signified that whatever qualms the GOP may have had with Trump are now faded memories; whatever questions they had about the direction of the party have been resolved.

Trump himself seemed to recognize as much, as he focused intently on re-litigating the results of the 2020 elections even while admitting his own party members wished he would just move on.

"Sir, think to the future, don't go back to the past," Trump said some Republican members of Congress have advised him.

"I'm telling you the single biggest issue, as bad as the border is and it's horrible, horrible what they're doing they're destroying our country, but as bad as that is the single biggest issue the issue that gets the most pull, the most respect, the biggest cheers is talking about the election fraud of the 2020 presidential election," Trump said.

It was not that long ago when there was more uncertainty about Trump's future within the party. Back in January, Grassley offered a stinging condemnation for Trump's behavior in the aftermath of the 2020 election — the type of statement that, at its heart, suggested a desire to rid himself of the messiness.

"The reality is, he lost. He brought over 60 lawsuits and lost all but one of them. He was not able to challenge enough votes to overcome President Biden's significant margins in key states," Grassley said in a statement offered after voting against Trump's second impeachment. "He belittled and harassed elected officials across the country to get his way. He encouraged his own, loyal vice president, Mike Pence, to take extraordinary and unconstitutional actions during the Electoral College count."

But Grassley is in a different place now. He recently announced, at age 88, that he is running for an eighth term. And with it, Trump has gone from nuisance to needed.

This week, Grassley and Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee released a report that claimed Trump's reported pressure on the Department of Justice to change election results was not just overblown but consistent with the commitments of the office of the president to uphold the constitution. And on Saturday night, Trump brought Grassley on stage to offer his "complete and total endorsement for re-election."

"If I didn't accept the endorsement of a person that's got 91 percent of the Republican voters in Iowa, I wouldn't be too smart," Grassley said.

For Trump, this is a wonderful gift. The ex-president has been openly discussing the likelihood that he will run for president again. To be greeted with open arms in the all-important, first-in-the-nation presidential caucus state of Iowa was a flashing-neon light signal to voters that this party remains his. And he's done it all while still launching broadsides against current leadership (he eviscerated Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell at various points on Saturday for striking a deal with Democrats to raise the debt ceiling and for not having the "courage to challenge the election") and without offering a morsel of remorse for how his presidency ended.

"Here's the difference. Hillary [Clinton] conceded. I never conceded. No reason to concede," Trump said to a cheering crowd.

For the faithful who gathered on Saturday night, Trump's place atop the GOP was never really a matter of dispute. Over a dozen supporters interviewed said they were counting on him to run again in 2024.

"Our country is in a downturn and we need to bring it back up and keep us on the right track," said Judy Williamson from Mount Pleasant, Iowa. "Biden, I'm worried about his mental capacities. I'm not sure he's doing well mentally."

When asked if he thinks Trump should run again, Jason Latimer from State Center, Iowa, replied, "he already is, that's why we are here." Citing the border and the economy, he said Trump should run "to get the country back where it was." A man standing next to him chimed in, "and to show the world we are back again."

Thousands of Iowans packed into the state fair grounds to show their support and hear from the former president. A recent Des Moines Register/Mediacom Iowa Poll showed 53 percent of Iowans and 91 percent of Republicans had a favorable view of Trump — higher approval ratings than he ever had while in the White House.

"Absence makes the hearts grow fonder," said Jeff Kaufmann, the Iowa Republican Party chairman of Trump's popularity ahead of his visit.

"I don't mean to be crude," Kaufmann said. But Trump to many Iowans represents "the middle finger to doing things the same old way, to the fat cats and the corporate welfare that Democrats now support and Republicans supported in the past. He represents an exasperation — people saying enough is enough."

While Trump has not officially announced a run for president, his visit to Iowa is a wink towards a 2024 bid. And the ground game he has built gives him a significant leg up over other 2024 hopefuls. Trump hired two full time operatives in the state to work on Save America outreach, Alex Latcham, a longtime operative in the state, and Eric Branstad, who worked for both of Trump's previous campaigns and is the son of Republican Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad, who also served as Trump's ambassador to China.

"He has a love for Iowa," said Branstad. "The movement in Iowa has always been real from the very moment he started and he spent so much time here doing rallies."

But while Trump has begun to take concrete steps to assert his position atop the shadow 2024 field, not everyone is sure he's the best Republican to nominate.

"At the end of the day it's about can you win and that's the question that even Trump is going to have among some of his most loyal base, about if can he win in 2024 and is America willing to have him back," said Bob Van Der Plaats, an influential conservative and evangelical leader in the state.

Van Der Plaats noted the warm reception Iowans have had to a steady parade of other Republicans visiting the state. Over the past few months, former vice president Mike Pence, former secretary of state Mike Pompeo, former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley, Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), and Tom Cotton (R-Ak.), and South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem and others have visited Iowa. Trump has been paying attention to their movements, but one aide said so far his team is unconcerned.

"To be honest, we really don't have to [pay attention to the others]," one aide said. "Every farm across the state, if you're to travel on any rural highway, it's Trump Country. The polls show it. The people show it. The action shows it. They are coming out of the woodwork for Trump."


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

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The men are thinking  "he's rich and white and a bizness man, he must be right"

and the women are  thinking "he's rich and white and I wish he'd grab my pussy"

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  seeder  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago
Thousands of Iowans packed into the state fair grounds to show their support and hear from the former president. A recent Des Moines Register/Mediacom Iowa Poll showed 53 percent of Iowans and 91 percent of Republicans had a favorable view of Trump — higher approval ratings than he ever had while in the White House.

There is essentially proof that Trump wanted and sought to steal the election last November. And yet this country sees scenes like the above. 

There are people in this country who are not MAGA morons who actually believe that Alexandria Ocasio Cortez is a greater threat to America than Donald Trump is. 

This mind blowing attitude is going to lead our country to a great deal of pain. 

Then there are those, which we also see here on NT, that still believe Trump will "fade away".  

How will he fade away when at least a third of the country worships him?  That is more than enough people to make him the GOP nominee in 2024, where Trump hopes to succeed in stealing that election. 

At some point it will be too late to wake up to this insanity. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @2    2 weeks ago

We are going to big time enjoy imposing another Trump Presidential term on our bi coastal secular progressive elites after the next presidential election.  We are all in on electing him again.  He is the face of what heartland flyover America want to see as our President because we  love him and his policies even more than you hate us and him.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    2 weeks ago
... because we  love him [Trump] ...

How rational.

JR @2At some point it will be too late to wake up to this insanity. 

At some point?   There is no reasoning with blind emotion.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.2  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    2 weeks ago
We are all in on electing him again.

Who is this "we?"

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.3  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    2 weeks ago

you can bet there's some wealthy OG GOPers looking for a gullible gun nut patsy right now.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  Gordy327 @2.1.2    2 weeks ago

All those who still believe Trump won the election, still believe everything the man says, and "love him".

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.5  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.4    2 weeks ago
All those who still believe Trump won the election, still believe everything the man says, and "love him".

Well, you know what I say about the stupidity of the American people. And that only affirms it.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.6  Ozzwald  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    2 weeks ago
He is the face of what heartland flyover America want to see as our President because we  love him and his policies

So, he and his followers attempted to overthrow the American government, and you, and his followers, are just fine with that?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  seeder  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago
"The bulk of Trump's speech was devoted to his baseless claim the 2020 election was stolen — a false belief that was supported by the crowd who broke out into chants of "Trump won! Trump won! Trump won!" "

Let's see, the speech was almost two hours long, and "the bulk" of it was devoted to the imaginary "stolen election". That's more than an hour of lies and nonsense. How stupid do you have to be to stand in that audience and soak up all that bullshit?  This is not a joke. 

Grassley is in a different place now. He recently announced, at age 88, that he is running for an eighth term. And with it, Trump has gone from nuisance to needed.

This week,

Grassley and Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee released a report that claimed Trump's reported pressure on the Department of Justice to change election results was not just overblown but consistent with the commitments of the office of the president to uphold the constitution.

And on Saturday night, Trump brought Grassley on stage to offer his "complete and total endorsement for re-election."

"If I didn't accept the endorsement of a person that's got 91 percent of the Republican voters in Iowa, I wouldn't be too smart," Grassley said.

The addled gasbag Grassley wants to serve in the Senate until he is 94. 

Would it be death wishing to hope that he chokes on a chicken bone, as long as he doesnt die? 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @3    2 weeks ago

He could be the 2nd senator to serve until 100 years old.  

 
 
 
Kavika
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4  Kavika     2 weeks ago

Delusional Don and his lemmings.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Kavika @4    2 weeks ago

Do you think Trump is going to "fade away" Kavika ? 

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.1.1  Kavika   replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    2 weeks ago
Do you think Trump is going to "fade away" Kavika ? 

Nope, his ego won't allow it.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  Kavika @4    2 weeks ago

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al Jizzerror
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5  al Jizzerror    2 weeks ago

Trump is NOT running for president.  If Trump announces that he is running, his fund raising will have to comply with Federal Election laws.

Trump isn't really campaigning, he's just scamming.  He can pocket the donations and spend the money on himself.

 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  al Jizzerror @5    2 weeks ago

I think you underestimate the progression of his psychological dysfunction.  Unless hes deathly ill or in prison midway through 2023, he's running.  His mental illness demands it. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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5.1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    2 weeks ago
Unless hes deathly ill or in prison midway through 2023, he's running.

Maybe.  Or he will be running until the time that he HAS TO declare it, when he will come up with an amazingly stupid excuse that his followers will eat up, and drop out.  Like  al Jizzerror pointed out once he declares, he can no longer simply pocket his simpleton followers' money.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  al Jizzerror @5    2 weeks ago

Your comment is true to a point.  He won’t declare officially as a candidate because of federal campaign finance laws and their impact once the decision is made. As a non candidate he has much more flexibility in raising and spending money on behalf of 2022 candidates and their campaigns. If he declares yes before then he’s limited.  If he declared no then he could raise money as now but would lose a lot of influence on the party.  No way he declares officially one way or the other before Jan. 2023.  The status quo stands.  
and he is raising and spending money for campaigns.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.2    2 weeks ago

He is raising this money, like always, to line his own pockets.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.2.2  Split Personality  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.1    2 weeks ago

He needs to start paying principal on his DeucheBank loans starting in 2023.

He needs about $340 Million to start.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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5.2.3  bbl-1  replied to  Split Personality @5.2.2    2 weeks ago

Actually, it is closer to $1.1B.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.2.4  Split Personality  replied to  bbl-1 @5.2.3    2 weeks ago

Well I saw he owed 340 on the D.C. hotel and now someones going to buy it for 370

Trump claims he made 150 profit on the hotel,

records submitted to Congress indicate he lost 73 after pumping 24 into it from unknown sources.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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5.2.5  bbl-1  replied to  Split Personality @5.2.4    2 weeks ago

There is much more than the D.C. Hotel.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6  Tacos!    2 weeks ago

Is Dementia contagious? Cuz damn.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7  Tessylo    2 weeks ago

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bbl-1
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8  bbl-1    2 weeks ago

As far as Grassley, he got too close to something and can't pull away.

As far as Trump, he's doing the same thing he's always done.  Point fingers, accuse, threaten and lie-----and most importantly, grift the grifted.

Unfortunately, 'some of 'The Trump Show Attendees' have suggested violence unless Trump gets his way.  I just wonder why they believe he is worth it.  I also wonder how this will end.  Will America become an 'Orban State' or will it become a strengthened democracy?

 
 
 
evilgenius
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8.1  evilgenius  replied to  bbl-1 @8    2 weeks ago
I also wonder how this will end. 

I'm hoping without more violence, but I'm afraid I'm probably wrong.

 
 
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