Biden Administration Cancels Remaining Contracts for Border Wall

Does this mean that Biden and Harris have resolved the crisis at the border now?

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No, Trump's walls is stupid and doesn't stop shit!

Is it really asking too much for you to respond to what the fuck I wrote for once instead of what you usually do?

If all you have is little cartoon pics, please refrain from posting to me until you can come up with something relevant and a little more adult.

Otherwise I will have to place you on ignore.

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Let’s go Bran-don!  

Where's Kamala?

Where's Kamala?

Certainly not at the border!

In fact, she seems to find reasons to ignore important meetings regarding the border!

Kamala Harris skips US-Mexico border-security meeting, goes to New Jersey instead (yahoo.com)

She is some border czar, isn't she?

Biden should be taken to court to complete what the prior congress authorized in spending dedicated to the wall.  It could be construed as an unconstitutional impoundment of funds.  This may be winding through the courts now.  

Last i saw phony giggle bitch was baby talking to a bunch of child actors about space like the kids were retards. 

Good. Maybe now they can focus on what REALLY is going on with the Southern Border - like WHY are all these people trying to get here, risking their lives??? And their children's' lives?
Don't you ever think about that, Texan?

Like, if you have a high fever, chills, aches, etc - do you just want to take Tylenol (your Border Wall) to make it go away, or do you want to go to a hospital, and see maybe you need antibiotics instead? 

Seriously, how are we supposed to take YOU seriously when you suggest such SILLY, SIMPLISTIC solutions like building a bloody 2,000mi wall instead of stopping ALL THOSE people from even heading over here?

What would you do it they STILL climb over it, like they do? Shoot them? 

Here is a hint: you are paying for all these Banana Republican peasants now trying to get into the US with 99c/lb bananas in grocery stores - right now (that's why we call them Banana Republics).

Chiquita Executives say "thank you".

I just wish the current Administration showed a little concern for what is happening on the border and place someone competent to be in charge.

Ms. Harris is obviously a poor choice.

I don't care WHY people are coming here--I welcome ALL who come here LEGALLY. It isn't OUR job to fix their countries FOR them. Perhaps if some of those aliens worked as hard at improving their own countries as they do to come here illegally, things would change.

People who come and stay here illegally should be removed.

I don't care WHY people are coming here

I hear you, but you are wrong. If you have a toothache - wouldn't you want to go to the dentist to see which tooth is rotting, and fix it? Instead of putting Orajel all over your gums and hope it goes away?

You ALWAYS have to know WHY.

Otherwise, no wall HIGH ENOUGH can stop them from coming. 

Central America is a rotting tooth. Unless you fix it at the source - you ain't gonna put a stop to those migrants. 

"It isn't OUR job to fix their countries FOR them."

Yeah, it is, if we are the ones who broke them.

Did my Banana Republic/Chiquita reference meant NOTHING to you?

They are coming because our place is nice and theirs is not and Biden lets them in, if we want to continue to have a nice place then we must stop letting them in or the USA will become a Banana Republic. 

I hear you, but you are wrong.

A little hard to be wrong about what I care about.

Central America is a rotting tooth. Unless you fix it at the source - you ain't gonna put a stop to those migrants. 

There's the thing, though. We can't fix their countries for them. They have to do it themselves.

"It isn't OUR job to fix their countries FOR them." Yeah, it is, if we are the ones who broke them.

Agree to disagree. We didn't break those countries.

We certainly have engaged in enough failed attempts at "nation-building" to have learned that lesson, I would hope.

Did my Banana Republic/Chiquita reference meant NOTHING to you?

Not nothing, just very little.

They are coming because our place is nice and theirs is not and Biden lets them in

Yes and no, charger.

Yes - our place is indeed "nice" and theirs isn't. 

NO - not because "Biden lets them in".

1. They were coming during the Trump admin too. They were coming during the Obama "The Deporter in Chief" admin, and Bush Jr, too.  They always try to come - they really, REALLY have no idea what politics of the moment we have in this country. Many of those people can't even read. But they are still trying to come here.

2. I guess my Banana Republic/Chiquita reference meant nothing - how silly of me to expect "Real Americans" like you and Texan to know WTF "Banana Republic" even means. Well, Wikipedia is there for you. 

I dare you. I dare you to look up what went wrong with Central American republics, where all these poor people are coming from: Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador. (And I am not even talking about the mass murders like Pinochet from Chili, South America, or Pol Pot, from Cambodia, both of whom our country/CIA supported)

Look it up. Look up why their (Central American) democratically elected gov'ts were all overthrown in the 1970's and 1980's. Look up where the name "Banana Republic" comes from.

Not because they grown bananas, lolz. But because Big American Agro wanted to have spare countries to import cheap bananas from.

Sheesh.

"if we want to continue to have a nice place then we must stop letting them in or the USA will become a Banana Republic. "

True dat. We must find a solution and address the root of the rotting tooth, so to speak.
Tell us if you have ideas.

"Build the Wall" ain't gonna stop any of that.
 

We didn't break those countries.

Umm, yes, we did. 

1. Nicaragua :  "Banana Republic" comes from the US intervention in Nicaragua
en.wikipedia  
Later, during Regan it was this:  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Nicaragua 
So, basically, for the last 100 of years or so. the US would NOT let Nicaragua be their own, sovereign country, and instead a left-over of a foreign puppet regime. 

2. Honduras : Read up on the Reagan Era in the middle.
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3. El Salvador . Read up on the US policy in the 80's, especially. 

en.wikipedia  

Reagan  and his demented crusade against the "commies" or whatever it was, back in the 80's, broke half of the World. Most of the World was able to recover, but not these little countries. 

NO - not because "Biden lets them in".

Actually it is. Word of mouth is the way they find out it is time to come to the US. They don't need to speak English to get here. The media in the countries they come from advertises what is going on at our southern border daily. When in Mexico the Haitian community used word of mouth to tell each other where to cross at the border. Or did you think that all of those Haitians ended up under the International Bridge by coincidence?

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CHARLES: Honestly, I don't think that it was quickly. First of all, we have to remember that a lot of these, if not the majority of these people, are individuals who were in other countries in Latin America. They were living in Chile, they were living in Brazil, where the situation turned. They were having a hard time making a living. And what they have told me when I spoke to them is a lot of them came to Mexico with the hope of being able to live in Mexico. But they've had a very difficult time getting work permits, finding jobs, even finding a place to live. And so this is a community that, you know, operates through word of mouth. So people started saying, hey, Ciudad Acuna is open. This port is open.

Biden and the Democrats have been ringing the dinner bell loud and clear for every illegal across the world to come to the US since the Democrat primaries. Biden and Harris have switched to a dinner gong with their non actions at the southern border; it is easily drowning out their pathetic verbal attempts to stem the tide. 

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Six 2020 Democratic candidates — Sen. Elizabeth Warren , former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro , former Rep. Beto O’Rourke , Washington Gov. Jay Inslee , Sen. Kamala Harris , and Sen. Cory Booker — have proposed changes to some or all of this. Those who haven’t put out a full plan are nonetheless positioning themselves in interviews and at Democratic debates.

Democrats are unified on the broad-strokes message they want to send on immigration, and on the fact that some kind of “comprehensive immigration reform” is necessary. In Congress, House Democrats have rallied around the Dream and Promise Act, a pathway to citizenship for unauthorized immigrants who came to the US as children and those with temporary humanitarian protections.

Still, immigration remains one of the most contentious policy issues in the United States. And Democrats’ plans so far aren’t addressing the most divisive issues, including whom to deport and whom to let in.

For now, they have an out: Trump’s immigration agenda is so extreme, they simply want to undo it.

“My first executive orders will be to reverse every single thing President Trump has done to demonize and harm immigrants,” Sanders said.

Every candidate supports a path to citizenship for the people currently living in the United States without papers — not just those who came in as children. Sanders, Harris, and Castro have publicly said they would pursue legislation to provide a path to citizenship for the 11 million unauthorized immigrants currently living the United States in their first 100 days in office.

And candidates’ first priority is to stop Trump’s immigration agenda. Inslee said his immediate actions include stopping the construction of Trump’s border wall, reinstating the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program — which the Trump administration decided to sunset, and which remains tied up in courts — and increasing the number of refugees the United States admits.

But some candidates are taking the debate further. Castro, the only Latino candidate in the Democratic primary, was first to propose a radical reshaping of immigration enforcement by calling to repeal the provision that makes “illegal entry” into the US a federal crime. The law has been on the books for decades but was rarely enforced until the George W. Bush administration, when criminal prosecution of unauthorized immigrants for illegal entry became increasingly common.

Many candidates have followed suit: Sanders, Warren, Harris, Booker, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, Inslee, Rep. Seth Moulton, Marianne Williamson, Andrew Yang, and Miramar, Florida, Mayor Wayne Messam have all support repealing the provision that makes being apprehended at the border a criminal offense.

Warren’s plan , she admits, “has a lot of Castro” in it. It not only decriminalizes crossing the border without papers but also includes reductions in immigration detention, the elimination of private detention facilities, and protecting schools, medical facilities, and courthouses from immigration enforcement.

Warren also called for ending programs that allow local law enforcement to be deputized as federal immigration officers, pledged to admit six to eight times as many refugees as Trump has in her first years as president, and to implement proposals that would make it easier for asylum seekers to get a day in court. Almost all the candidates support alternatives to detention facilities , including electronic monitoring and social work monitoring.

It isn't a coincidence that as soon as Biden took office the surge in illegals over the southern border began and hasn't slowed since.

1. They were coming during the Trump admin too. They were coming during the Obama "The Deporter in Chief" admin, and Bush Jr, too.  They always try to come - they really, REALLY have no idea what politics of the moment we have in this country. Many of those people can't even read. But they are still trying to come here.

Yes, they were, but not nearly at the same damn rate; don't even try to pretend otherwise. The totals so far this year are unprecedented. As for your "Deporter in Chief" Obama- that is a lie that has been repeated too many damn times. 

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But the portrait of a steadily increasing number of deportations rests on statistics that conceal almost as much as they disclose. A closer examination shows that immigrants living illegally in most of the continental U.S. are less likely to be deported today than before Obama came to office, according to immigration data.

Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009.

On the other side of the ledger, the number of people deported at or near the border has gone up — primarily as a result of changing who gets counted in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency’s deportation statistics.

The vast majority of those border crossers would not have been treated as formal deportations under most previous administrations. If all removals were tallied, the total sent back to Mexico each year would have been far higher under those previous administrations than it is now.

The shift in who gets tallied helped the administration look tough in its early years but now may be backfiring politically. Immigration advocates plan protests across the country this week around what they say will be the 2 millionth deportation under Obama — a mark expected to be hit in the next few days. And Democratic strategists fret about a decline in Latino voter turnout for this fall’s election.

Until recent years, mostpeople caught illegally crossing the southern border were simply bused back into Mexico in what officials called “voluntary returns,” but which critics derisively termed “catch and release.” Those removals, which during the 1990s reached more 1 million a year, were not counted in Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s deportation statistics.

Now, the vast majority of border crossers who are apprehended get fingerprinted and formally deported. The change began during the George W. Bush administration and accelerated under Obama. The policy stemmed in part from a desire to ensure that people who had crossed into the country illegally would have formal charges on their records.

In the Obama years, all of the increase in deportations has involved people picked up within 100 miles of the border, most of whom have just recently crossed over. In 2013, almost two-thirds of deportations were in that category.

At the same time, the administration largely ended immigration roundups at workplaces and shifted investigators into targeting business owners who illegally hired foreign workers.

“If you are a run-of-the-mill immigrant here illegally, your odds of getting deported are close to zero — it’s just highly unlikely to happen,” John Sandweg, until recently the acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said in an interview.

Even when immigration officials want to deport someone who already has settled in the country, doing so is “virtually impossible” because of a lengthy backlog in the immigration courts, Sandweg said. Once people who have no prior removals or convictions are placed in deportation proceedings, actually removing them from the country can take six years or more in some jurisdictions, Sandweg said.

Deportations of people apprehended in the interior of the U.S., which the immigration agency defines as more than 100 miles from the border, dropped from 237,941 in Obama’s first year to 133,551 in 2013, according to immigration data. Four out of five of those deportees came to the attention of immigration authorities after criminal convictions.

Many of those convictions are related to crossing the border — the other big consequence of the change in the way border removals are handled.

A growing number of people caught trying to cross the border now have a formal deportation order on their records. Entering the country without legal authorization is not a crime. But once a person has been deported, he can be prosecuted if he reenters the country.

The policy of deporting border crossers and then prosecuting people who reenter has increased the number of immigrants charged in federal court. In 1992, immigration offenses accounted for 5% of federal convictions. In the subsequent two decades, the share of immigration cases on the federal docket increased sixfold, according to a study by the Pew Research Center .

In 2012, immigration offenses made up 30% of federal convictions, second only to drug cases, which made up one-third.\

So no "Deporter in Chief" for Obama. 

2. I guess my Banana Republic/Chiquita reference meant nothing - how silly of me to expect "Real Americans" like you and Texan to know WTF "Banana Republic" even means. Well, Wikipedia is there for you. 

I dare you. I dare you to look up what went wrong with Central American republics, where all these poor people are coming from: Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador. (And I am not even talking about the mass murders like Pinochet from Chili, South America, or Pol Pot, from Cambodia, both of whom our country/CIA supported)

Look it up. Look up why their (Central American) democratically elected gov'ts were all overthrown in the 1970's and 1980's. Look up where the name "Banana Republic" comes from.

Not because they grown bananas, lolz. But because Big American Agro wanted to have spare countries to import cheap bananas from.

We suck at nation building. Your rant simply proves that fact yet again. Take a look at our most recent failure in nation building Afghanistan. If you don't like that one try Iraq. Or West Bank and Gaza. Or Libya. Or Ukraine. Or Yemen. If you want to go back even further try Iran, Vietnam, and China. Our track record sucks. How many years is it going to take to rebuild those Central and South American countries (not to mention Haiti and Cuba)? Should we invade every last one and force changes on them? How long are you going wait to fix this "tooth ache" you are complaining about so damn much? Think all of those illegals are going to wait in their home countries while we force change? The US will rot long before the problem countries are ever "fixed".

The simplest thing to do is shut down the damn border; and make the flow of illegal immigrants manageable. Trump managed to do it by the end of his administration. Biden undid everything Trump; and we are all paying for it. 

As for nation building. It is past time we stayed the hell out of that mine field.

 The United States was able to build itself up from being English colonies and become and an independent and strong nation that is a good place to live.  At the same time as other parts of North, Central and South America were developing and becoming independent.  It is not our fault some areas were not as successful in the early days or later as we were.   

The problem is overpopulation, a subject I have been saying here is the biggest problem of the USA and the whole world for a long time.

Overpopulation makes all other problems worse

I do not like the idea that for me to continue to live in a nice place that I have already paid for that I have to go down the road and pay to fix up somebody else's slum, that they will probably trash again, just to have peace and quite. 

  "Many of those people can't even read."

Do you want them coming to your neighborhood?

Those feral cats you mean charger?

A Clowder of feral cats

What are you willing to give up to address the "rotting tooth?  

Overpopulation is one thing I agree with you with. Horribly, we learned to realize there is just too many of us living on this planet.

ScARY

Nothing on these Forums. These Forums are stale and dead, basically. Ask me what I'd do about a "rotting tooth" elsewhere

I'll tell you right now - I ain't gonna sit and take this bullshit that's going around as a normal toothache around here

That's what

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THAT WAS A FIGURE OF SPEECH,

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In my entire life here in the US, me being 52 yo, I have NEVER, EVER, I have NEVER seen any one not speaking or reading English

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Then you obviously have never been to or lived on the Mexican border.

like WHY are all these people trying to get here, risking their lives??? And their children's' lives?

Because the Democrats have made it clear they support Illegal Immigration and Open Borders. The Democrats Policies and Public Statements are the cause of most Illegal Immigration. People in those other countries watch and read the news just like we do and their news agencies report on Illegal Immigration and US Border Security like the Morning Zoo covers traffic and the reports they're getting say "Biden has thrown open the Border and Welcomes all Illegals with Open Arms and a Welfare Check."

Because the Democrats have made it clear they support Illegal Immigration and Open Borders.

I was trying to have an honest discussion here. 
I am a Democrat. Even worse - I am a LIBERAL. 

WTF are you talking about saying we "support Illegal Immigration and Open Borders?" This is stupid and an untrue thing to say!

"Biden has thrown open the Border and Welcomes all Illegals with Open Arms and a Welfare Check."

Other than Fux News - tell me which "other news" say this? Especially outside of our borders? Even on the Internetz, even on CNN International you would NEVER see anything like this.
FFS, ever traveled outside of the country? cnn.com is censored once you get out of the US, even if to Canada.

CNN International is like the Voice of AMerica abroad. But also censored.

You speak like someone who has never, EVER left the country, who has NO IDEA what the "TV" or the "Internet" looks like once you leave this country.
You think people who can't read, don't have Internet (central american countries, I mean) would hear what the crazy Tucker Carlson has to say??? LOLZ
No, no, they wouldn't, and me thinks you've no idea what you talking about, unless you heard about from Fux News. Surely not from your own experience. 

WTF are you talking about saying we "support Illegal Immigration and Open Borders?" This is stupid and an untrue thing to say!

Far from stupid and untrue.  Under democrats illegal immigration has run rampant.  Even those that are apprehended are shuttled off to other parts of the US with the "promise" that they will appear for their court appointments.  In addition they do absolutely nothing to slow those pouring over our border.  You have to live in a cave or be very gullible not to see this.

So, yes, democrats support illegal immigration and open borders.

No, yes, democrats support illegal immigration and open borders.

No, dearie, This Democrat, and This liberal - we do not support illegal immigration nor open border. 
So, STOP this bullshit

Bingo, we have a winner!

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Just my wild guess, Dennis.. the people rushing across the border will not be shot bullets at.

JUST A GUESS

You got it.

The Biden administration definitely turned on and hung out the vacancy sign on our Southern borders and they are still coming.

This Democrat, and This liberal - we do not support illegal immigration nor open border.

Yeah right.  As a whole, democrats have been against securing the border for decades.  Just because YOU don't, doesn't negate that.

They stopped just short of a welcoming party.

Yep. As I have said before, I live in the SE corner of Cochise County on the AZ/Mexico border. My house is literally 6 blocks from the border fence. I have illegals running the alleys behind my house almost every night 365 days per year. I see 1st hand the Customs Border Patrol apprehending people all the time.

Ilegals are illegal, nothing more or less.

So you do not even recognize asylum seekers?

"Yep. As I have said before, I live in the SE corner of Cochise County on the AZ/Mexico border. My house is literally 6 blocks from the border fence. I have illegals running the alleys behind my house almost every night 365 days per year. I see 1st hand the Customs Border Patrol apprehending people all the time."

"I have illegals running the alleys behind my house almost every night 365 days per year" - then how come you are still whole enough to post on the Internez?

For the last at least 7 years - cuz I remember you from Newsvine?

You still alive. So the illegals still haven't gotten you since 2014.
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Amazing. You just "coast"  for the last 7 years, Ed.

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You have a nice day now.