Donald Trump's hands are all over the coup attempt

  

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Via:  john-russell  •  4 months ago  •  23 comments

By:   John Eastman (CNN)

Donald Trump's hands are all over the coup attempt
With each passing day, it seems, new revelations come to light that suggest how intimately involved then-President Donald Trump and his advisers were in the coup attempt leading up to the events of January 6, 2021.

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(CNN)With each passing day, it seems, new revelations come to light that suggest how intimately involved then-President Donald Trump and his advisers were in the coup attempt leading up to the events of January 6, 2021.

The latest bombshell came Thursday night when CNN reported that Trump lawyer and confidant Rudy Giuliani, as well as other Trump campaign aides, spearheaded the efforts to gather alternate electors in seven swing states in an attempt to overturn Joe Biden's Electoral College victory. As CNN's Marshall Cohen, Zachary Cohen and Dan Merica write: "Giuliani and his allies coordinated the nuts-and-bolts of the process on a state-by-state level, the sources told CNN. One source said there were multiple planning calls between Trump campaign officials and GOP state operatives, and that Giuliani participated in at least one call.

The source also said the Trump campaign lined up supporters to fill elector slots, secured meeting rooms in statehouses for the fake electors to meet on December 14, 2020, and circulated drafts of fake certificates that were ultimately sent to the National Archives." The goal of these efforts? To have Vice President Mike Pence declare a dispute about which electors to seat from those seven key states, throwing the matter to the House where a Republican majority of state delegations would vote to recognize the pro-Trump electors rather than the rightful electors. Read More

That plot was laid out in a two-page memo by John Eastman, a conservative lawyer working for Trump in the aftermath of the 2020 election. As CNN wrote of the Eastman memo late last year: "The Eastman memo laid out a six-step plan for Pence to overturn the election for Trump, which included throwing out the results in seven states because they allegedly had competing electors. In fact, no state had actually put forward an alternate slate of electors -- there were merely Trump allies claiming without any authority to be electors." As all of that was going on, Trump himself was actively pressuring Pence to throw the election back to the House despite there being no constitutional backing for such a move. On January 5, just hours before the Electoral College certification, Trump and Pence met at the White House.

Here's how CNN described that meeting: "Pence came under intense pressure from Trump to toss out the election results during a meeting that lasted hours in the Oval Office. The vice president's chief of staff, Marc Short, was banned by Trump from entering the West Wing, the source said, as the President repeatedly warned with 'thinly veiled threats' to Pence that he would suffer major political consequences if he refused to cooperate." The picture of all this reporting makes clear: Publicly and privately, Trump and those close to him were actively working to not only undermine public confidence in the 2020 election, but also to put in motion a plan to overturn a free and fair election. It's damning stuff. And, if the past few months have taught us anything, it's the more of this picture we see, the worse things look for Trump. His role in the scatter-shot, legally suspect effort only seems to grow larger with each passing week.

While the report from the January 6 House select committee will be the definitive word on all of this, we can already see just how big a role Trump and those closest to him played in the attempted coup. What's even scarier than a sitting president actively trying to bend laws for his own personal gain? The fact that he is the current frontrunner to be the Republican Party's nominee in 2024.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    4 months ago

The facts of the coup attempt will make Watergate look like childs play. It will all be shown on national tv when the Jan 6 committee goes public before too long. 

Will the independents, moderates and traditional Republicans be ready to accept the truth ? 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 months ago
Will the independents, moderates and traditional Republicans be ready to accept the truth ?

Do "traditional Republicans" still exist?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 months ago

Except the average American doesn't give a shit about this overblown protest gone bad

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.1  devangelical  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    4 months ago

the below average intelligence american doesn't give a shit about the attempted coup...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2  Just Jim NC TttH    4 months ago

A coup??

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif   Perhaps we need a definition clarification..........

coup d’état , also called  coup , the sudden, violent overthrow of an existing government by a small group. The chief prerequisite for a coup is control of all or part of the armed forces, the police, and other military elements . Unlike a  revolution , which is usually achieved by large numbers of people working for basic social, economic, and political change, a coup is a change in power from the top that merely results in the abrupt replacement of leading government personnel.

C redibility

N ot

N ecessary

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2    4 months ago

Why is  coup  trending?

On January 6, 2021, interest in the word   coup   spiked—corresponding with a 962% increase in search interest on Dictionary.com—after a mob of supporters of Donald Trump stormed the U.S. Capitol building on the day Congress was set to certify the electoral vote count to confirm Joe Biden’s presidential election victory. Some journalists, political analysts, and politicians used the word   coup   to describe the events that occurred at the nation’s capitol.

The word   coup , in this context, is short for   coup d’état ,   which literally means “stroke of state” in French. Due to its French origin, the final   p   is not pronounced, making the word sound identical to the word   coo .

The violence at the Capitol today was an attempted coup and act of insurrection egged on by a corrupt President to overthrow our democracy. — Elizabeth Warren (@SenWarren)   January 6, 2021

Every seditionist House member who supported and encouraged this attempted coup needs to be expelled. — Mary L Trump (@MaryLTrump)   January 6, 2021

Our democracy is literally under assault.

Donald J. Trump incited this violence and is directly responsible for this attempted coup.

He must be impeached and removed from office immediately.

— Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley (@RepPressley)   January 6, 2021

Coup  vs.  sedition  vs.  insurrection

Coup Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    4 months ago

The term coup is in popular usage to describe the Trump attempt to stay in power. Call it slang if it pleases you. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.2  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2    4 months ago

The CDP defines coups d'état as organized efforts to effect sudden and irregular (e.g., illegal or extra-legal) 
removal of the incumbent executive authority of a national government, or to displace the authority of the highest 
levels of one or more branches of government.

CDP v.2.0.2 Codebook.pdf

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    4 months ago

Five Trump stories on the main page.

But no one is obsessed. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    4 months ago

Better to whine than to try and defend him I suppose. 

 
 
 
Ender
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3.2  Ender  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    4 months ago

What is different than the ten a day seeds about Biden....

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ender @3.2    4 months ago

hat is different than the ten a day seeds about Biden.

Who is the President and who has been a private citizen for a year?

 
 
 
Ender
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3.2.2  Ender  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.1    4 months ago

You all said the same shit when he was president. Complained of all the seeds about him.

Really strange that you all cannot see that you do the same thing....

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4  TᵢG    4 months ago

Clearly.   Will be interested to see if any of this sticks to Trump.   He does have a remarkable ability to slither out of trouble of his own making.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.1  Ozzwald  replied to  TᵢG @4    4 months ago

He does have a remarkable ability to slither out of trouble of his own making.

He doesn't have the Senate as his wingman this time.  All he can do, is exactly what he is doing, stall...stall...stall, and hope republicans take back all of Congress to cancel the investigation.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Ozzwald @4.1    4 months ago

I will be watching.   Not gonna predict anything.   jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Ozzwald @4.1    4 months ago

if they don't finish up by 11/22, this congress will have done all the legwork for the DOJ...

 
 
 
bbl-1
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4.1.3  bbl-1  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.1    4 months ago

It is the dirty money, the fraud of the dirty money and the origins of the dirty money that DJT fears the most.  This so called 'insurrection' was nothing more than a ploy to keep his status and assure these revelations never see the light of day.  There are also his actions at Helsinki which could indicate treasonous actions with a foreign power.  These are but two items which must never become investigated and him having to explain under oath the details. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.1.4  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.1    4 months ago

I will be watching as well, but I won't be watching CNN.

 
 
 
Ender
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4.2  Ender  replied to  TᵢG @4    4 months ago

Every time...

Sometimes by throwing other people under the bus.

 
 
 
Kavika
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5  Kavika     4 months ago
He does have a remarkable ability to slither out of trouble of his own making.

That is commonplace with snakes, you know forked tongue and all.

 
 
 
Ender
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6  Ender    4 months ago

I don't see how people are not in jail for sending false records to the national archives.

All this shit these people pull and they are walking free.

If us regular Joe's did some of these things we would be thrown under the jail.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
7  bbl-1    4 months ago

'The man who dwells in Mar-a-Lago may withstand all scrutiny unless he is forced too publicly testify under oath.  This is something he cannot do.  He just can't.

 
 

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