CASH AND COUPS - The Moderate Voice

  

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CASH AND COUPS - The Moderate Voice
Republicans have been screaming about this laptop bullshit for over two years without providing any substance as to why it's important. So far, the bulk of their argument is that since it exists, it means there was corruption from Hunter Biden which means there's corruption from President Joe Biden. They also say there's evidence of Hunter using drugs, which we already know, and that the laptop has images of Hunter having sex with minors, which is not true.

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During most of the time Republicans were screaming about Hunter Biden's laptop without any substance to speak of, Jared Kushner was sitting on top of $2 billion received from the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia. Yes, that's the same crown prince who ordered the execution of a Washington Post journalist. Also, while MAGAts were screaming about Hunter Biden, there was the existence of texts from Donald Trump Jr. to Trump chief-of-staff Mark Meadows about stealing the election before the election was called.

Republicans have been screaming about this laptop bullshit for over two years without providing any substance as to why it's important. So far, the bulk of their argument is that since it exists, it means there was corruption from Hunter Biden which means there's corruption from President Joe Biden. They also say there's evidence of Hunter using drugs, which we already know, and that the laptop has images of Hunter having sex with minors, which is not true.

What is true is there's an email from a business contact in Ukraine thanking Hunter for introducing him to Vice President Joe Biden at a dinner with a dozen other people in public. There's another email, after the Obama presidency from a Chinese business contact, that mentions giving Joe Biden a cut, and there's a third email from Hunter saying Joe Biden wants nothing to do with the deal, which never got off the ground. A lot of this is in code, but that's all they have.

Photos have been posted that Republicans claim show Hunter smoking crack, but Hunter's drug use and addictions are public knowledge. Hunter and his father have been open about this. Also, how do you know it's crack he's smoking? Photos of someone smoking crack or marijuana are just photos of someone smoking. They don't fly in court. The claim that child pornography is on the laptop comes straight from InfoWars. Also, keep in mind that this laptop was in the possession of Rudy Giuliani.

One thing that is a fact is Hunter Biden was never a member of the White House staff in the Obama or Biden administrations or ever given the responsibility of international diplomacy. But Jared Kushner was.

Jared Kushner, along with his wife, was on the staff of the Trump White House (sic). In case you forgot, Jared is married to Ivanka, Donald Trump's daughter. In case you're a Republican, that makes Jared Donald Trump's son-in-law.

Jared was put in charge of a lot of stuff, like immigration and denying states medical equipment during the COVID pandemic. He was also involved with foreign policy, outside the boundaries of the State Department which frustrated the entire department. Part of Jared's job was to build a relationship with Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia.

Jared and MBS, the Crown Prince, liked to communicate through WhatsApp, a phone app that's encrypted and is an excellent way to talk in secret so your conversations are NOT archived, as required by the Presidential Records Act. Basically, it's a great way to talk privately when you're involved in some sketchy shady shit. Jared is a big fan of back-channel communications and asked the Russians to create a backchannel to talk to the Trump administration (sic).

The Crown Prince is not a nice guy. He ordered the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, a Saudi journalist under the protection of the United States and employed by The Washington Post. Khashoggi was murdered inside Saudi Arabia's Turkish embassy where they dismembered him with a bone saw. Jared, who probably sees himself as a prince, is buddy-buddy with the Crown Prince, a ruthless person who orders murders. Jared helped broker $110 billion in weapon sales to Saudi Arabia over the next decade and defended the Kingdom from congressional criticism over its involvement in the Yemeni Civil War and the murder of Khashoggi.

During this time, Jared's failing 5th Avenue property, 666, was bailed out by a Canadian asset company that signed a 99-year lease and paid a near-century's worth of rent upfront. This saved Kushner from defaulting on a mortgage he couldn't afford which would have brought all his debtors down on him. One of the owners of the Canadian asset company is the nation Qatar. The deal came through right after Jared helped negotiate the end of Saudi Arabia's blockade of Qatar. I'm sure the timing was just a coincidence. Qatar even denied they knew it was going down even though it was widely reported and Jared's company had sough investment from them before. But the Canadian company was a much better attempt at hiding their involvement.

Jared had financial involvement with multiple foreign nations before Trump became president (sic). That should have automatically disqualified him from working in the White House. It took over a year for him to receive a security clearance as he had to reapply three times as he kept omitting important business and relationship details on his applications. Remembering stuff is hard. Finally, Trump, as president (sic), ordered that Jared and Ivanka both be given security clearances despite what the background checks found.

Jared's newly formed private equity firm, Affinity Partners, received $2 billion from a fund led by the Crown Prince six months after he left the White House. The Saudi fund's advisory board objected to the investment. According to the minutes of the meeting, the board cited "the inexperience of the Affinity Fund management"; the possibility the kingdom would be responsible for "the bulk of the investment and risk"; due diligence on the fledgling firm's operations that found them "unsatisfactory in all aspects"; a proposed asset management fee that "seems excessive"; and "public relations risks" from Jared's prior role as a senior adviser to his daddy-in-law, President (sic) Donald Trump.

Basically, the advisory board cited that Jared had zero experience in this sort of business enterprise, is inept, is shady as fuck, and that eventually, the Saudi fund would end up eating its investment because it fucked up and got into business with a Trump.

Mohammad bin Salman ignored the advice and invested $2 billion anyway. This was back in July of 2021 and we just now finding out about it. The $2 billion probably isn't all from MBS, as it's a fund, but that amount is probably nothing to him anyway as reports put his net worth between $10-18 billion. He'll be worth a lot more when he's king.

This deal is not illegal. Jared had a right to do business with foreign nations after serving in a presidential administration. But, it sure does seem like a payoff of some sort for services already rendered. You would need testimony and documents to prove this was discussed while Jared was in the Trump administration and remember, he and MBS used WhatsApp.

There were tons of sketchy foreign deals with Javanka during the Trump presidency, like that time Ivanka was granted three trademarks in China the very same day she and daddy Dingdong had dinner with the Chinese president. What another coinkydink. And if photos had come out of Ivanka smoking crack during the dinner, Republicans would still be talking about Hunter Biden's laptop.

Steve Baby FishMouth Mnuchin, Treasury Secretary for Trump, also received $1 billion from the Saudi fund.

Before the Trump administration (sic) was over, Donald Trump Jr was texting Mark Meadows about how his father could stay in power despite losing the election. Before there was a coup attempt, Jr was suggesting a coup attempt. In November 2020, before the election was called for President Biden but while it was still in the air, Jr texted Meadows on how they could overturn the results. They knew they were going to lose the election.

This included having Republican-controlled state Houses discard the electors legally won by Joe Biden, and putting forward "Trump electors" in their place. Referring to recounts and audits, he texted, "It's very simple. We have multiple paths We control them all."

He was also suggesting they at least create enough confusion that the election was never called or confirmed by Congress, then have the House vote for the president by state delegations. Even though the House was Democratic Party controlled, Republicans had the most state delegations.

Looking at how much money the Trumps were making off the presidency, it's no wonder they tried to steal the 2020 election. The Trump presidency may be over but the Trump Crime Family is still in business. But hey, let's keep talking about Hunter's laptop.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    one month ago
What is true is there's an email from a business contact in Ukraine thanking Hunter for introducing him to Vice President Joe Biden at a dinner with a dozen other people in public. There's another email, after the Obama presidency from a Chinese business contact, that mentions giving Joe Biden a cut, and there's a third email from Hunter saying Joe Biden wants nothing to do with the deal, which never got off the ground. A lot of this is in code, but that's all they have.
 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Expert
2  Tacos!    one month ago
Republicans have been screaming about this laptop bullshit for over two years without providing any substance as to why it's important.

At minimum, it’s important for national security reasons, just as it was with Trump and his family, Obama, Bush, and all the way back. Hunter has these relationships with people in Ukraine, Russia, and China. Those also happen to be three countries in which President Joe is most interested and three countries that are very much in the news for their own reasons these days.

So there is naturally at least some scrutiny against issues of corruption, or even blackmail, and the potential effect that may have on national security and presidential influence.

However, unlike with previous administrations, most of the news media has done everything it can to discredit these concerns and the people proposing them.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
Masters Quiet
2.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Tacos! @2    one month ago

What does that have to do with the TOTAL HYPOCRACY !!!!!!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.1    one month ago

The usual TWISTING

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
Masters Quiet
2.1.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.1    one month ago

assaulted by pretzels !

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Expert
2.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.1    one month ago
What does that have to do with the TOTAL HYPOCRACY !!!!!!

What does that have to do artificial sweeteners !!!!!!

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Expert
2.1.4  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.1    one month ago
The usual TWISTING

The usual EMPTY INTERJECTION

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Expert
2.1.5  Tacos!  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.1.2    one month ago
assaulted by pretzels !

An assault implies something was directed at you. Maybe you should look around and check reality before hitting “reply.”

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
Masters Quiet
2.1.6  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.5    one month ago
check reality before hitting “reply.”

when interacting here on NT,, i'm often peppered with assault , as posters attempt to season my Word Salads, but, i'm still not Dressing....

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.4    one month ago

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Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    one month ago

first, can you point to which new organizations/ social media sites  are banning  discussion of kushner? Which government officials/supposedly independent media members are falsely claiming the kushner story is Russian misinformation? 

That would be an apples to apples comparison. 

But of course, Hunter Biden is under investigation by the DOJ for criminal activity. Is kushner?

what are the implications of hunter complaining that he has to pay half his income to his father, do you think?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
Masters Quiet
3.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    one month ago

NO ONE, is as blind as you all pretend to be !!!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  seeder  JohnRussell    one month ago

The Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia is not an enemy of Russia or a communist, so there would be no reason for right wingers to be upset with Kushner's corruption the way they are upset with Hunter Biden. 

I think everyone forgot that Kushner couldnt get a legitimate security clearance , and had to have his father-in-law give him one for no good reason. 

Maybe we should spend the next three years passing around innuendo about this slumlord grifter. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4    one month ago

It's cute how you completely ignore the cover up, censorship and media/govt official disinformation campaign on behalf of Hunter Biden in your desperate attempt to draw an equivalence between the two stories. There's no coverup. No one is being kicked off social media for discussing what Kushner did.   

And of course, there's no hint Kushner did anything illegal, while Biden is under investigation by the DOJ.  But keep trying!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1    one month ago
During this time, Jared's failing 5th Avenue property, 666, was bailed out by a Canadian asset company that signed a 99-year lease and paid a near-century's worth of rent upfront. This saved Kushner from defaulting on a mortgage he couldn't afford which would have brought all his debtors down on him. One of the owners of the Canadian asset company is the nation Qatar. The deal came through right after Jared helped negotiate the end of Saudi Arabia's blockade of Qatar. I'm sure the timing was just a coincidence. Qatar even denied they knew it was going down even though it was widely reported and Jared's company had sought investment from them before. But the Canadian company was a much better attempt at hiding their involvement.

Sounds pretty shady. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
Masters Quiet
4.1.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1    one month ago
, there's no hint Kushner did anything illegal, while Biden is under investigation by the DOJ.  But keep trying!

is there any HINT, that anyone around Trump EVER did ANYTHING ILLEGAL?  Cause his closest WERE chargedf with crimes or are now violating subpoenas', but NOTHING TO SEE HERE! 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
4.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.1    one month ago

Do you think Merrick Garland is giving him a free pass?  

If he did something illegal, throw him in jail. Seems like he didn't and he's being freely criticized for actions that look bad. But there's no censorship, there's no lying by government officials.  No one is claiming this story  is "Russian disinformation".

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1    one month ago
"It's cute how you completely ignore the cover up, censorship and media/govt official disinformation campaign on behalf of Hunter Biden"

What cover up, censorship, and media/govt official disinformation campaign??????????????????????????????????????????????????????

WTF???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
4.1.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.4    one month ago
WTF???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

If you don't know by now, I can't help you.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.5    one month ago

It's ridiculous.  There has been no cover up because there truly is nothing to see here.  

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5  Ender    one month ago

I was going to wonder if he defaults again, do the Saudis get to take over the 5th Ave property...

Yet With 2 billion, he should be set for life.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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6  Colour Me Free    one month ago
The deal came through right after Jared helped negotiate the end of Saudi Arabia's blockade of Qatar. I'm sure the timing was just a coincidence. Qatar even denied they knew it was going down even though it was widely reported and Jared's company had sough investment from them before. But the Canadian company was a much better attempt at hiding their involvement.

If there are illegalities, then it should be investigated by the DOJ .. seems simple enough .. get a special counsel to conduct a counterintelligence investigation, hell call in Mueller and his team to do the job.   

This deal is not illegal. Jared had a right to do business with foreign nations after serving in a presidential administration. But, it sure does seem like a payoff of some sort for services already rendered. You would need testimony and documents to prove this was discussed while Jared was in the Trump administration and remember, he and MBS used WhatsApp.

Speculative at best .... but please get the DOJ to investigate, add it to the special counsel counterintelligence investigation of the Saudi Arabia / Qatar connection .. 

or see if a secret agent is available to write up a dossier .... Oooo Oooo I know get a FISA warrant against Carter Page he must know someone connected to the crowned prince     : )

I get the point, it is a non stop thing .. whenever a (D) is suspected of wrong doing, there is a (R) that has done something worse and vise versa, rinse repeat .. personally I think all individuals that gain substantial 'ish wealth while in office should be investigated.  those writing books while in office are using their connection to / position in government to influence the sale of books.

 
 
 
Hallux
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6.1  Hallux  replied to  Colour Me Free @6    one month ago

Hypocracy sauce for the titocracy is hypocracy sauce for the tatocracy ...

 
 

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