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Russia accuses Biden of having dementia

  

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Via:  john-russell  •  4 years ago  •  84 comments

Russia accuses Biden of having dementia
The paper highlighted a recent appearance Biden made in North Carolina where he "finished his speech, turned to the side and began to speak into empty space, and then began to imitate a handshake with someone invisible." "Biden began to feverishly look around the stage on which he stood," the author said of the incident. "His expression was confused. This miserable spectacle ended with the fact that the president began to wander aimlessly around the crowded hall."

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Russia accuses Biden of having dementia


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A   Russian newspaper that echoes viewpoints held by the Russian government is taking aim at President Biden, claiming he suffers from dementia as pressure mounts in Ukraine.

Komsomolskaya Pravda, a pro-Kremlin newspaper headquartered in Moscow, recently published an   article   questioning whether Biden is "in his right mind" and listed five examples of "dementia that can be found in the President of the United States."

Citing the World Health Organization’s definition of dementia, Lyudmila Plotnikova, the author of the article, said Biden is "very elderly" and "too often in the last years of his life he either forgot names and dates, or lost his orientation in space."

"Americans feel sorry for their president, but at the same time they are wondering if such a person is able to perform the functions of not only the owner of the Oval Office of the White House, but also the supreme commander of one of the most powerful armies in the world," Plotnikova wrote for the paper, which was founded nearly 100 years ago in Russia.

Pointing to columns written by American physicians, as well as previous health battles Biden has faced, including those related to brain aneurysms, the paper suggested Biden has repeatedly "embarrassed himself" on the world stage as a result of some kind of cognitive impairment.

The author listed five categories to support the paper's claim that Biden suffers from dementia and provided specific examples for each. The categories included: forgetfulness, disorientation, aimless wandering, behavioral changes including aggression, and difficulties in movement.

The paper highlighted a recent appearance Biden made in North Carolina where he "finished his speech, turned to the side and began to speak into empty space, and then began to imitate a handshake with someone invisible."

"Biden began to feverishly look around the stage on which he stood," the author said of the incident. "His expression was confused. This miserable spectacle ended with the fact that the president began to wander aimlessly around the crowded hall."

The paper also cited examples of when Biden "yelled at reporters" and insisted that "experts are sure that the state of health of the leader of the American nation inspires serious concern."

Rebekah Koffler , a former U.S. DIA intelligence officer focused on Russia and the author of "Putin's Playbook: Russia's Secret Plan to Defeat America," told Fox News Digital that the paper's efforts are "almost certainly part of Russia’s psychological operation designed to discredit President Biden and his administration’s decision-making with regard to the Russia-Ukraine conflict."

"This accusation is also likely in part a payback for U.S. media’s allegations of Russian President Putin’s COVID-related mental instability," Koffler said. "The Kremlin seeks to portray U.S. military assistance to Ukraine as lacking legitimacy because the decision to do so is made by a person who is allegedly cognitively impaired."

Koffler said Putin is "building the justification narrative for domestic and foreign audiences for whatever escalatory action he would take in the ongoing conflict."

The newspaper   faced scrutiny   last month after it deleted an online report that claimed almost 10,000 Russian troops had been killed since Putin began invading Ukraine. According to a   statement   released by the paper, the article appeared online for a short time after it was published by hackers.




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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    4 years ago

 Putin controlled Russian media is aping the observations of Fox News. Great minds think alike !

 
 
 
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Junior Silent
1.2  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 years ago
the observations of Fox News.

...which occurred before his election. Now ya got the whole package.

 
 
 
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Junior Silent
1.3  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 years ago

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Ozzwald
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1.3.1  Ozzwald  replied to  squiggy @1.3    4 years ago

Losing one's footing is not nearly as bad as losing one's car.

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
1.3.2  squiggy  replied to  Ozzwald @1.3.1    4 years ago

“…losing one's car.“

Like little Teddy Kennedy?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 years ago

Only certain people see it?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.4.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.4.1    4 years ago

I disagree. Even Obama sees it. 

Biden told Obama that he was going to run in 2024. How do we know that?  I assume Obama leaked it and the Washington Post began listing democrat candidates for Joe's job.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.4.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.4.3    4 years ago

Who else had the information?

You know what they say about common sense. Some are blessed with it.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.4.5  Snuffy  replied to  Tessylo @1.4.3    4 years ago

No, Vic is not a mind reader.  But it has been reported in several news sources that Biden has informed Obama that he is planning on running for re-election in 2024.

President   Joe Biden   recently told former president   Barack Obama   he intends on running for a second term in 2024.

According to   The Hill ,   two sources familiar with Mr Biden’s discussions with the man he served under as vice president for eight years say the 46th president is intent on seeking four more years in the   White House .

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  seeder  JohnRussell    4 years ago
The paper highlighted a recent appearance Biden made in North Carolina where he "finished his speech, turned to the side and began to speak into empty space, and then began to imitate a handshake with someone invisible." "Biden began to feverishly look around the stage on which he stood," the author said of the incident. "His expression was confused. This miserable spectacle ended with the fact that the president began to wander aimlessly around the crowded hall."

This is , in fact, not what happened. Biden turned, made eye contact with someone standing at the edge of the stage, and made a hand gesture towards that person. He was not trying to shake hands with an invisible person. 

What we have now is our adversary, Russia, using the insane observations of right wing media to go after the US president.  Conservative media - bringing traitorous behavior to a new place during a time of war.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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3  bbl-1    4 years ago

Clear as a bell.  Putin's propaganda machine thinks it, FOX News and the rest of the anti-American Trumper outlets repeat it.  CLEAR AS A BELL.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4  Snuffy    4 years ago

As none on this board are actually psychiatrists actively treating Biden we really don't know his mental state.  And I'm sure not gonna suggest that we start to trust what Russian news presents.

The back and forth over the videos of Biden's gaffs are merely partisan talk which does nothing to convince anybody of truthfulness or falseness.  

But the video's do look bad.

It's also looking bad when during the Trump administration there were several on this board who openly mocked Trump's mental abilities with the same lack of actually being a psychiatrist who was actively treating him.  Nobody should be surprised that the "attackers" and the "defenders" have flipped based on their partisan beliefs.  What is sad however is how deeply into the partisan mud people are willing to sink.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @4    4 years ago

President Joe Biden was confused, “turned around and shook hands with thin air” after a speech.

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www.politifact.com   /factchecks/2022/apr/19/facebook-posts/biden-was-gesturing-towards-his-audience-not-shaki/

PolitiFact - Biden was gesturing towards his audience, not shaking hands with “thin air”

  • After the end of his speech at North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University, Biden turned around and gestured towards the onlookers to his right, who rose to applaud him. He wasn’t trying to shake hands with an imaginary person.

  • Biden was at the university to speak about his administration’s efforts on economic renewal, and to visit the campus’ new engineering and innovation complex.

When President Joe Biden visited North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University, the country’s largest historically Black university, he   toured the campus ’ new engineering and research complex with students, faculty and U.S. Rep. Kathy Manning. He then delivered a speech about supply chain disruptions, economic renewal and his administration’s Build Back Better agenda. 

But there’s one thing he didn’t do that social media posts are claiming he did:

"After Biden finished his speech today, he turned around and tried to shake hands with thin air and then wandered around looking confused," radio station WDBO   posted   April 14 on Facebook. "Do you fear our president is incapacitated?" 

Facebook flagged the post and others like it on its platform in an effort to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our   partnership with Facebook .) 

The claim also appeared on   YouTube   and Twitter, shared by Republicans like   Sen. Ted Cruz   and   Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene . It even appeared on Instagram, where Snoop Dogg   shared   the video and claim with his followers. 

We took a look at those clips and the full videos of Biden’s speech. They don’t add up to the claim that he was trying to shake hands with thin air — different angles show that he was gesturing toward onlookers behind him.

A   C-SPAN video   of Biden’s entire speech shows an angle from Biden’s right side — after he finished speaking at the 53 minute mark, he turned to those gathered to his right behind him and pointed his hand at them as they stood up to applaud. He then turned to his left and did the same to those seated on that side, who also stood and clapped. Biden smiled at both sides before walking down the ramp towards the audience in front of the podium. 

C-SPAN video of Biden's speech at North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University, April 14, 2022

A   YouTube video   from WFMY News 2 from Greensboro, North Carolina, shows Biden briefly speaking to audience members before walking out of the room flanked by Secret Service agents. 

The International Business Times also found this claim to have holes. We reached out to the White House, as well as North Carolina A&T State University for their input. Neither responded in time to a request for comment. 

The clips of Biden gesturing to those seated in the audience are being misconstrued to appear as if he was trying to shake hands with air. We rate this claim False.
 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.1.1  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    4 years ago

So...   so the fact checkers at PolitiFact have presented their opinion.  Good for them, and it backs up your opinion.  None of it however is fact because they just like you are unable to read Biden's mind and know exactly his mind when this was occurring.  Without any fact to back it up, it is not truth but simply opinion.

Until there is an actual psychiatric examination performed on President Biden by qualified medical staff, all of this is simply grist for the partisan mills.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    4 years ago

Lol. Poltifact.

The video doesn't lie.  Poltifact does. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.2    4 years ago

Sean , I figured this out for myself before I saw any other explanation by Politifact or anyone else.  The video you posted the other day CLEARLY shows Biden making eye contact with someone at a slight distance. 

You are just wrong, but your investment in protecting this conservative media nonsense has you in a trap at this point. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.1.4  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    4 years ago
The video you posted the other day CLEARLY shows Biden making eye contact with someone at a slight distance. 

That's amazing that this sort of detail can be made from a video with the presentation point being at 90 degrees from the line of sight.  The powers you exhibit are really something.....

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @4.1.1    4 years ago
None of it however is fact because they just like you are unable to read Biden's mind and know exactly his mind when this was occurring.  Without any fact to back it up, it is not truth but simply opinion.

What is that, an example of Trump's alternative facts? 

Look at the video on this page. Advance to the 53:00 mark. When Biden turns away from the podium it is CLEAR that he is looking directly at someone or someones in the audience about 15 or 20 feet away from, not extending his hand for an "invisble handshake".   

This "invisible handshake " baloney is madness. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.1.6  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.5    4 years ago
Look at the video on this page. Advance to the 53:00 mark. When Biden turns away from the podium it is CLEAR that he is looking directly at someone or someones in the audience about 15 or 20 feet away from, not extending his hand for an "invisble handshake".   

When he turns away from the podium, he's looking at someone or something.  Problem is we just don't know what he's looking at or what is in his mind.   

And JR,  what the hell is his hand doing anyway?  As I said, the video looks bad but I'm not jumping up and down towards either belief.  it looks bad, but people make movements every day that can make them look bad.  This is all partisan IMO.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.7  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @4.1.6    4 years ago

The video does not look bad. People are nitpicking Biden because he is old and because they are his political enemies. 

Biden sees someone in the audience and he extends his hand, as a gesture, not a handshake. It is as plain as day. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.1.9  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.7    4 years ago
Biden sees someone in the audience and he extends his hand, as a gesture, not a handshake. It is as plain as day. 

I submit you see what  you want to see and refuse to see anything else.  To me the holding out of the right hand like that looks like the beginning of a handshake, that's what it looks like to me.  At least you are no longer telling us what he was thinking but only talking about what you see.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.10  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Snuffy @4.1.9    4 years ago

He expected someone to be at his right side to turn and shake hands with and they weren't.  Perhaps it was the ghost of Harry Truman. Someone was supposed to be behind him on his right side..........or at least that is what he is used to when he is through speaking. Poor fella.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.12  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @4.1.9    4 years ago

I'm not going to endlessly debate this with you. Two fact checking groups have decided that Biden was not trying to shake hands with anyone, he was making a gesture towards people in the audience off to the side of the stage. 

If you want to keep imagining something that didnt happen because it helps your political beliefs no one can stop you. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.1.13  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.12    4 years ago
If you want to keep imagining something that didnt happen because it helps your political beliefs no one can stop you. 

Right back at ya.

 
 
 
Wishful_thinkin
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4.1.14  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  Snuffy @4.1.9    4 years ago
I submit you see what  you want to see and refuse to see anything else. 

Right back at ya.

 
 
 
cjcold
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4.2  cjcold  replied to  Snuffy @4    4 years ago

Biden rides a mountain bike around the White House complex for fun and exercise on a regular basis. 

President Trump spent his free time laying in bed, eating Big Macs and watching Fox news.

 
 
 
cjcold
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4.3  cjcold  replied to  Snuffy @4    4 years ago

Biden is a good person.

Trump has never been a good person.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5  Sean Treacy    4 years ago

You, and others on the left, are really mastering McCarthyite tactics. 

Well done!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    4 years ago

It must suck for you to be wrong most of the time because you have to protect the far right ideology. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    4 years ago

The transparent desperation of this seed speaks for itself.

What's next? Putin says America is struggling with inflation, therefore anyone who brings up the worst inflation in generations is a Russian agent!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.1    4 years ago

Desperation? Trying to get the deranged right to stop lying is desperation? If so it doesnt augur well for our country. 

Why is Russia using Fox News slander as the basis for their attacks on the American president? 

 
 
 
cjcold
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5.1.3  cjcold  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.1    4 years ago

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cjcold
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5.1.4  cjcold  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.1    4 years ago

The inflation has everything to do with covid.    

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.1.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  cjcold @5.1.3    4 years ago

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Sean Treacy
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5.1.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.2    4 years ago
rying to get the deranged right to stop lying is desperation

No one is lying John. It's not any video. It's not any two videos. It's entire body of Joe Biden's work that leads people to believe he's mentally deteriorating. You can try and rationalize each gaffe, each blunder each unexplainable behavior but you can't deny the pattern. He's a 79 year old with a history of traumatic brain injuries.   Even without the ample video evidence, how would anyone believe any in his situation is in peak condition?

Talk about believing in miracles. 

Watch Biden speak from his 1988 campaign. Then watch him today.  For fucks sake his sycophants have resorted to  claiming  his stutter reappeared after 50 years to try and  explain his inability to communicate.

Believe your eyes John, not your partisan heart. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.7  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.6    4 years ago

Joe Biden is almost 80 years old. He does mover slower and he does look physically hesitant at times, like many many 80 year olds do. 

That doesnt mean the right is not lying. This story about Biden shaking hands with an invisible person is a lie. The video clearly shows Biden is looking at a specific person who is some distance away from him.  You can either stop lying or lose whatever credibility you think you have left. 

Now we have Russia repeating the American right's lies, thought for thought. It is disgraceful. 

 
 

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