Neoliberalism – the ideology at the root of all our problems

  

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Via:  hallux  •  3 weeks ago  •  21 comments

By:   George Monbiot - The Guardian

Neoliberalism – the ideology at the root of all our problems
Financial meltdown, environmental disaster and even the rise of Donald Trump – neoliberalism has played its part in them all. Why has the left failed to come up with an alternative?

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Imagine if the people of the Soviet Union had never heard of communism. The ideology that dominates our lives has, for most of us, no name. Mention it in conversation and you’ll be rewarded with a shrug. Even if your listeners have heard the term before, they will struggle to define it. Neoliberalism: do you know what it is?

Its anonymity is both a symptom and cause of its power. It has played a major role in a remarkable variety of crises: the   financial meltdown   of 2007‑8, the offshoring of wealth and power, of which the   Panama Papers   offer us merely a glimpse, the slow collapse of public health and education, resurgent child poverty,   the epidemic of loneliness , the collapse of ecosystems, the rise of   Donald Trump . But we respond to these crises as if they emerge in isolation, apparently unaware that they have all been either catalysed or exacerbated by the same coherent philosophy; a philosophy that has – or had – a name. What greater power can there be than to operate namelessly?

So pervasive has neoliberalism become that we seldom even recognise it as an ideology. We appear to accept the proposition that this utopian, millenarian faith describes a neutral force; a kind of biological law, like Darwin’s theory of evolution. But the philosophy arose as a conscious attempt to reshape human life and shift the locus of power.

Neoliberalism sees competition as the defining characteristic of human relations. It redefines citizens as consumers, whose democratic choices are best exercised by buying and selling, a process that rewards merit and punishes inefficiency. It maintains that “the market” delivers benefits that could never be achieved by planning.

Attempts to limit competition are treated as inimical to liberty. Tax and regulation should be minimised, public services should be privatised. The organisation of labour and collective bargaining by   trade unions   are portrayed as market distortions that impede the formation of a natural hierarchy of winners and losers. Inequality is recast as virtuous: a reward for utility and a generator of wealth, which trickles down to enrich everyone. Efforts to create a more equal society are both counterproductive and morally corrosive. The market ensures that everyone gets what they deserve.

We internalise and reproduce its creeds.   The rich persuade themselves   that they acquired their wealth through merit, ignoring the advantages – such as education, inheritance and class – that may have helped to secure it. The poor begin to blame themselves for their failures, even when they can do little to change their circumstances.

Never mind structural unemployment: if you don’t have a job it’s because you are unenterprising. Never mind the impossible costs of housing: if your credit card is maxed out, you’re feckless and improvident. Never mind that your children no longer have a school playing field: if they get fat, it’s your fault. In a world governed by competition, those who fall behind become defined and self-defined as losers.

Among the results, as Paul Verhaeghe documents in his book  What About Me?  are epidemics of self-harm, eating disorders, depression, loneliness, performance anxiety and social phobia. Perhaps it’s unsurprising that Britain, in which neoliberal ideology has been most rigorously applied, is  the loneliness capital of Europe . We are all neoliberals now.

The term neoliberalism was coined at a meeting in Paris in 1938. Among the delegates were two men who came to define the ideology, Ludwig von Mises and Friedrich Hayek. Both exiles from Austria, they saw social democracy, exemplified by Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal and the gradual development of Britain’s welfare state, as manifestations of a collectivism that occupied the same spectrum as nazism and communism.

In   The Road to Serfdom , published in 1944, Hayek argued that government planning, by crushing individualism, would lead inexorably to totalitarian control. Like Mises’s book   Bureaucracy ,   The Road to Serfdom   was widely read. It came to the attention of some very wealthy people, who saw in the philosophy an opportunity to free themselves from regulation and tax. When, in 1947, Hayek founded the first organisation that would spread the doctrine of neoliberalism – the   Mont Pelerin Society   – it was supported financially by millionaires and their foundations.

With their help, he began to create what Daniel Stedman Jones describes in   Masters of the Universe   as “a kind of neoliberal international”: a transatlantic network of academics, businessmen, journalists and activists. The movement’s rich backers funded a   series of thinktanks   which would refine and promote the ideology. Among them were the   American Enterprise Institute ,   the Heritage Foundation ,   the Cato Institute ,   the Institute of Economic Affairs ,   the Centre for Policy Studies   and   the Adam Smith Institute . They also financed academic positions and departments, particularly at the universities of Chicago and Virginia.

As it evolved, neoliberalism became more strident. Hayek’s view that governments should regulate competition to prevent monopolies from forming gave way – among American apostles such as   Milton Friedman   – to the belief that monopoly power could be seen as a reward for efficiency.

Something else happened during this transition: the movement lost its name. In 1951, Friedman was happy to   describe himself as a neoliberal . But soon after that, the term began to disappear. Stranger still, even as the ideology became crisper and the movement more coherent, the lost name was not replaced by any common alternative.

At first, despite its lavish funding, neoliberalism remained at the margins. The postwar consensus was almost universal:   John Maynard Keynes ’s economic prescriptions were widely applied, full employment and the relief of poverty were common goals in the US and much of western Europe, top rates of tax were high and governments sought social outcomes without embarrassment, developing new public services and safety nets.

But in the 1970s, when Keynesian policies began to fall apart and economic crises struck on both sides of the Atlantic, neoliberal ideas began to enter the mainstream. As Friedman remarked, “when the time came that you had to change ... there was an alternative ready there to be picked up”. With the help of sympathetic journalists and political advisers, elements of neoliberalism, especially its prescriptions for monetary policy, were adopted by Jimmy Carter’s administration in the US and Jim Callaghan’s government in Britain.

After Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan took power, the rest of the package soon followed: massive tax cuts for the rich, the crushing of trade unions, deregulation, privatisation, outsourcing and competition in public services. Through the IMF, the World Bank, the Maastricht treaty and the World Trade Organisation, neoliberal policies were imposed – often without democratic consent – on much of the world. Most remarkable was its adoption among parties that once belonged to the left: Labour and the Democrats, for example. As Stedman Jones notes, “it is hard to think of another utopia to have been as fully realised.”

It may seem strange that a doctrine promising choice and freedom should have been promoted with the slogan “there is no alternative”. But,   as Hayek remarked   on a visit to Pinochet’s Chile – one of the first nations in which the programme was comprehensively applied – “my personal preference leans toward a liberal dictatorship rather than toward a democratic government devoid of liberalism”. The freedom that neoliberalism offers, which sounds so beguiling when expressed in general terms, turns out to mean freedom for the pike, not for the minnows.

Freedom from trade unions and collective bargaining means the freedom to suppress wages. Freedom from regulation means the   freedom to poison rivers , endanger workers, charge iniquitous rates of interest and design exotic financial instruments. Freedom from tax means freedom from the distribution of wealth that lifts people out of poverty.

As Naomi Klein documents in   The Shock Doctrine , neoliberal theorists advocated the use of crises to impose unpopular policies while people were distracted: for example, in the aftermath of Pinochet’s coup, the Iraq war and Hurricane Katrina, which Friedman described as “an opportunity to radically reform the educational system” in   New Orleans .

Where neoliberal policies cannot be imposed domestically, they are imposed internationally, through trade treaties incorporating “ investor-state dispute settlement ”: offshore tribunals in which corporations can press for the removal of social and environmental protections. When parliaments have voted to restrict sales of   cigarettes , protect water supplies from mining companies, freeze energy bills or prevent pharmaceutical firms from ripping off the state, corporations have sued, often successfully. Democracy is reduced to theatre.

Another paradox of neoliberalism is that universal competition relies upon universal quantification and comparison. The result is that workers, job-seekers and public services of every kind are subject to a pettifogging, stifling regime of assessment and monitoring, designed to identify the winners and punish the losers. The doctrine that Von Mises proposed would free us from the bureaucratic nightmare of central planning has instead created one.

Neoliberalism was not conceived as a self-serving racket, but it rapidly became one. Economic growth has been markedly slower in the neoliberal era (since 1980 in Britain and the US) than it was in the preceding decades; but not for the very rich. Inequality in the distribution of both income and wealth, after 60 years of decline, rose rapidly in this era, due to the smashing of trade unions, tax reductions, rising rents, privatisation and deregulation.

The privatisation or marketisation of public services such as energy, water, trains, health, education, roads and prisons has enabled corporations to set up tollbooths in front of essential assets and charge rent, either to citizens or to government, for their use. Rent is another term for unearned income. When you pay an inflated price for a train ticket, only part of the fare compensates the operators for the money they spend on fuel, wages, rolling stock and other outlays. The rest reflects the fact that   they have you over a barrel .

Those who own and run the UK’s privatised or semi-privatised services make stupendous fortunes by investing little and charging much. In Russia and India, oligarchs acquired state assets through firesales. In Mexico,   Carlos Slim   was granted control of almost all landline and mobile phone services and soon became the world’s richest man.

Financialisation, as Andrew Sayer notes in   Why We Can’t Afford the Rich , has had a similar impact. “Like rent,” he argues, “interest is ... unearned income that accrues without any effort”. As the poor become poorer and the rich become richer, the rich acquire increasing control over another crucial asset: money. Interest payments, overwhelmingly, are a transfer of money from the poor to the rich. As property prices and the withdrawal of state funding load people with debt (think of the switch from student grants to student loans), the banks and their executives clean up.

Sayer argues that the past four decades have been characterised by a transfer of wealth not only from the poor to the rich, but within the ranks of the wealthy: from those who make their money by producing new goods or services to those who make their money by controlling existing assets and harvesting rent, interest or capital gains. Earned income has been supplanted by unearned income.

Neoliberal policies are everywhere beset by market failures. Not only are the banks too big to fail, but so are the corporations now charged with delivering public services. As Tony Judt pointed out in   Ill Fares the Land , Hayek forgot that vital national services cannot be allowed to collapse, which means that competition cannot run its course. Business takes the profits, the state keeps the risk.

The greater the failure, the more extreme the ideology becomes. Governments use neoliberal crises as both excuse and opportunity to cut taxes, privatise remaining public services, rip holes in the social safety net, deregulate corporations and re-regulate citizens. The self-hating state now sinks its teeth into every organ of the public sector.

Perhaps the most dangerous impact of neoliberalism is not the economic crises it has caused, but the political crisis. As the domain of the state is reduced, our ability to change the course of our lives through voting also contracts. Instead, neoliberal theory asserts, people can exercise choice through spending. But some have more to spend than others: in the great consumer or shareholder democracy, votes are not equally distributed. The result is a disempowerment of the poor and middle. As parties of the right and   former left   adopt similar neoliberal policies, disempowerment turns to disenfranchisement. Large numbers of people have been shed from politics.

Chris Hedges   remarks   that “fascist movements build their base not from the politically active but the politically inactive, the ‘losers’ who feel, often correctly, they have no voice or role to play in the political establishment”. When political debate no longer speaks to us, people become responsive   instead to slogans, symbols and sensation . To the admirers of Trump, for example, facts and arguments appear irrelevant.

Judt explained that when the thick mesh of interactions between people and the state has been reduced to nothing but authority and obedience, the only remaining force that binds us is state power. The totalitarianism Hayek feared is more likely to emerge when governments, having lost the moral authority that arises from the delivery of public services, are reduced to “cajoling, threatening and ultimately coercing people to obey them”.

Like communism, neoliberalism is the God that failed. But the zombie doctrine staggers on, and one of the reasons is its anonymity. Or rather, a cluster of anonymities.

The invisible doctrine of the invisible hand is promoted by invisible backers. Slowly, very slowly, we have begun to discover the names of a few of them. We find that the Institute of Economic Affairs, which has argued forcefully in the media against the further regulation of the tobacco industry,   has been secretly funded   by British American Tobacco since 1963. We discover that   Charles and David Koch , two of the richest men in the world, founded the institute that set up the   Tea Party movement . We find that Charles Koch, in establishing one of his thinktanks,   noted that   “in order to avoid undesirable criticism, how the organisation is controlled and directed should not be widely advertised”.

The words used by neoliberalism often conceal more than they elucidate. “The market” sounds like a natural system that might bear upon us equally, like gravity or atmospheric pressure. But it is fraught with power relations. What “the market wants” tends to mean what corporations and their bosses want. “Investment”, as Sayer notes, means two quite different things. One is the funding of productive and socially useful activities, the other is the purchase of existing assets to milk them for rent, interest, dividends and capital gains. Using the same word for different activities “camouflages the sources of wealth”, leading us to confuse wealth extraction with wealth creation.

A century ago, the nouveau riche were disparaged by those who had inherited their money. Entrepreneurs sought social acceptance by passing themselves off as rentiers. Today, the relationship has been reversed: the rentiers and inheritors style themselves entre preneurs. They claim to have earned their unearned income.

These anonymities and confusions mesh with the namelessness and placelessness of modern capitalism: the franchise model which ensures that workers   do not know for whom they toil ; the companies registered through a network of offshore secrecy regimes so complex that   even the police cannot discover the beneficial owners ; the tax arrangements that bamboozle governments; the financial products no one understands.

The anonymity of neoliberalism is fiercely guarded. Those who are influenced by Hayek, Mises and Friedman tend to reject the term, maintaining – with some justice – that it is used today   only pejoratively . But they offer us no substitute. Some describe themselves as classical liberals or libertarians, but these descriptions are both misleading and curiously self-effacing, as they suggest that there is nothing novel about   The Road to Serfdom ,   Bureaucracy   or Friedman’s classic work,   Capitalism and Freedom .

For all that, there is something admirable about the neoliberal project, at least in its early stages. It was a distinctive, innovative philosophy promoted by a coherent network of thinkers and activists with a clear plan of action. It was patient and persistent.  The Road to Serfdom  became the path to power.

Neoliberalism’s triumph also reflects the failure of the left. When laissez-faire economics led to catastrophe in 1929, Keynes devised a comprehensive economic theory to replace it. When Keynesian demand management hit the buffers in the 70s, there was an alternative ready. But when neoliberalism fell apart in 2008 there was ... nothing. This is why the zombie walks. The left and centre have produced no new general framework of economic thought for 80 years.

Every invocation of Lord Keynes is an admission of failure. To propose Keynesian solutions to the crises of the 21st century is to ignore three obvious problems. It is hard to mobilise people around old ideas; the flaws exposed in the 70s have not gone away; and, most importantly, they have nothing to say about our gravest predicament: the environmental crisis. Keynesianism works by stimulating consumer demand to promote economic growth. Consumer demand and economic growth are the motors of environmental destruction.

What the history of both Keynesianism and neoliberalism show is that it’s not enough to oppose a broken system. A coherent alternative has to be proposed. For Labour, the Democrats and the wider left, the central task should be to develop an economic Apollo programme, a conscious attempt to design a new system, tailored to the demands of the 21st century.


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Hallux
Sophomore Principal
1  seeder  Hallux    3 weeks ago

                      A coherent alternative has to be proposed.

With technology outstripping all within its path, the question becomes by who as much as by what.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Hallux @1    2 weeks ago

Give us a few of your well thought out proposals.

 
 
 
Hallux
Sophomore Principal
1.1.1  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    2 weeks ago

I'm not an economist.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
1.1.2  bugsy  replied to  Hallux @1.1.1    2 weeks ago

Meh...

I'm not a biologist, but at least I can tell you what a woman is.

You can pretend to be an economist and give us your thoughts on the above.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
3  Buzz of the Orient    2 weeks ago

When I see that an article posted here is a novel rather than a short story, I might well ignore it because I simply no longer have the patience to spend so much time with it, but lately there have been a couple of interesting "novels", and I did read through this one.  It has become obvious lately that divisiveness in America is increasing exponentially, such divisions as rich vs poor, Democrat vs Republican, etc.  For a nation where the Christian religion is of such great importance to so many people, I truly wonder at their ignoring that the bible says:  "If a kingdom is divided against itself, it cannot stand" repeated by the venerated Abraham Lincoln who was and is respected by so many Americans, to have said "A house divided against itself cannot stand" in which he may have been speaking of the division between the American north and south, but the result of extreme national division of ANY kind is bound to bring downfall.  The division between nations and blocs of nations, employing methods of  confrontation rather than cooperation, could even lead down the road to war.

Those who know me know that I often think of comparison of real life with the movies, and the fairy tales they often tell - sometimes art imitates life, sometimes life imitates art.  An example of that is the movie Pretty Woman, where Edward Lewis (Richard Gere) earned great wealth by purchasing corporations that were in trouble and breaking them up to sell the pieces of them at a profit, destroying the company and terminating the livelihoods of the employees.  Then he met Vivian (Julia Roberts) whose influence caused him to change that to save and support a shipbuilding industry by partnering with its owner (Ralph Bellamy) - an American fairy tale.  The movie teaches a lesson - that it is better for everyone to be cooperative, rather than to "divide and conquer".

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3    2 weeks ago
It has become obvious lately that divisiveness in America is increasing exponentially, such divisions as rich vs poor, Democrat vs Republican, etc.

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Nerm_L
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4  Nerm_L    2 weeks ago

So close  but ignorance prevailed in the end.  Citing Friedrich Hayek and Ludwig von Mises when discussing neoliberalism is exactly like citing Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels when discussing democratic socialism.

Both neoliberalism and democratic socialism has incorporated bits and pieces of various economic theories.  The public debate does tend to incorporate the fundamental ideas of Hayek and von Mises for neoliberalism and does tend to incorporate the fundamental ideas of Marx and Engels for democratic socialism.  What is ignored is how the ideas of monetarism are the unspoken core philosophies for both neoliberalism and democratic socialism.

While admittedly oversimplified, democratic socialism can be considered socialist monetarism.  And neoliberalism can be considered free market monetarism.  Milton Friedman was a monetarist.  As was Alan Greenspan.  So were Ronald Reagan, Margret Thatcher, and Bill Clinton.

The ideas of Hayek, von Mises, Marx, and Engels were grounded in a fundamental concept of capital; which is not currency or money.  The fundamental concept was that capital determined the value of currency.  During the 1970s the valuation of currency started to become separated from capital.  By the end of Bill Clinton's Presidency manipulating and managing the valuation of currency and money had become the central policy objective of government.  As a result of policy inattention, capital resources were ceded to countries focusing attention on capital rather than money.

No amount of political talking points by economic liberals or social liberals can overcome the glaring failures of monetarism.  Monetarism is not capitalism.  Free markets will ultimately fail under monetarist policies.  And socialism is actually impossible under monetarist policies.

 
 
 
Hallux
Sophomore Principal
4.1  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Nerm_L @4    2 weeks ago

One can find what you refer to as ignorance in just about every article dealing with economics, it is not a subject set in concrete but one that is continually morphed by and is continually morphing society.

All economic systems are slippery slopes and apparently all are manipulated by the same weeds flourishing in the inevitable cracks of any economic theory.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
PhD Principal
4.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Hallux @4.1    2 weeks ago
One can find what you refer to as ignorance in just about every article dealing with economics, it is not a subject set in concrete but one that is continually morphed by and is continually morphing society.

And, yet, the focus of attention is on ignorance rather than substance.  That is becoming an insurmountable impediment for discussing economics and, hopefully, understanding the pitfalls associated with prioritizing theory rather than observable causality.

All economic systems are slippery slopes and apparently all are manipulated by the same weeds flourishing in the inevitable cracks of any economic theory.

Economic theory attempts to address inconsistencies, discrepancies, and contradictions observed in economic systems.   Where does value come from and what role does value play in an economic system?  How can the economic value of anything be objectively determined?  What is the role (and value) of destruction in economic systems?  What is a marketplace and what regulates the marketplace?

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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5  Colour Me Free    2 weeks ago
Chris Hedges remarks that “fascist movements build their base not from the politically active but the politically inactive, the ‘losers’ who feel, often correctly, they have no voice or role to play in the political establishment”. When political debate no longer speaks to us, people become responsive instead to slogans, symbols and sensation . To the admirers of Trump, for example, facts and arguments appear irrelevant.

Huh?  HA!  no I get it, just think it is not relevant to the conversation ...?

Otherwise, a great article ...   : )

. Keynesianism works by stimulating consumer demand to promote economic growth. Consumer demand and economic growth are the motors of environmental destruction.

Not sure that demand and economic growth are drivers of environmental destruction any longer.. at least not in the US. [outside of housing demand of course - filling in wetlands, destruction of old growth trees for housing developments should be a crime] 

Actually the stopping of economic growth in the wood products industry has led to the destruction of forests.  'We' have protected them to death, leaving them to bugs, disease, and wild fires.  The US buys lumber from Canada while Montana forest die out, the wood products industry died in the early 2000s... consumer demand and economic growth can be managed as long as 'we' are responsible stewards of 'our' resources ... wildlife, public lands and national parks can be protected at the same time..  or so I think..

Peace

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.1  Ender  replied to  Colour Me Free @5    2 weeks ago
[outside of housing demand of course - filling in wetlands, destruction of old growth trees for housing developments should be a crime] 

Thank you. I have to agree with you there.

As far as the forests I am starting to come around to your way of thought. There should be a way to manage without total destruction or total neglect.

In my state they use public and private lands for timber cultivation. What they do though is clear cut a section, then replant it.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Junior Quiet
5.1.1  Colour Me Free  replied to  Ender @5.1    2 weeks ago

Hi Ender .. glad your state is recognizing the need to assist in forest growth. 

I support selective cutting .. clean the dead and dieing out, leaving room for new growth to fill in where they had been choked out before.  Selective cutting also removes fuel for wildfires .. while providing good jobs - the logger is now the new environmentalist / tree hugger, they understand the need to keep forests healthy for the future of their industry as well as the planet...

We can never have to many trees ... and wetlands are natures tidal pools, they are accentual in protecting the planet as well ... hurricanes hit and there is no where for the water to go .. everything is now a house, a paved parking lot or parking garage.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.1.2  Ender  replied to  Colour Me Free @5.1.1    2 weeks ago

I use to complain about them clear cutting whole sections. Someone tried to tell me once that it is actually good for the deer population. To have an open section in the forest for them to graze.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Junior Quiet
5.1.3  Colour Me Free  replied to  Ender @5.1.2    2 weeks ago

Very true .. small clear cuts and selective cuts also help support native grass growth .. wildlife is an essential (I see I used accentual up top -wonder which one is correct : )  part of the planet as well .. leaving dead and dieing trees for wildfires destroys habitat.

P.s...  there is a catch 22 as well ... fire is necessary for reproduction of some trees and grasses .. yikes!

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.1.4  Ender  replied to  Colour Me Free @5.1.3    2 weeks ago

They have done selective burns down here. I had to shake my head one time, they decided to do a burn on a windy day and the flames were leaping across the interstate.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Junior Quiet
5.1.5  Colour Me Free  replied to  Colour Me Free @5.1.1    2 weeks ago
the logger is now the new environmentalist

Correction is necessary ... todays logger is a conservationist!

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Junior Quiet
5.1.6  Colour Me Free  replied to  Ender @5.1.4    2 weeks ago

Scary when a fire jumps the line .. 

Prescribed burns are necessary in some areas to clean up the dead undergrowth and help with reproduction of several pine trees ...

HA!  I went to look up names of the pines that need fire and found this video .. I did not know giant sequoias needed fire .. this video explains what I have been trying to 

Yosemite | Why the Giant Sequoia Needs Fire to Grow | Nature | PBS
 
 
 
Hallux
Sophomore Principal
5.2  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Colour Me Free @5    2 weeks ago

Treehugger! ... : -)

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Junior Quiet
5.2.1  Colour Me Free  replied to  Hallux @5.2    2 weeks ago

Guilty, but I did not start out that way.  Growing up my dad worked in the wood industry ..!  The shutting down of the woods affected my family - environmentalists did not accomplish this overnight it took years of systematic closures to protect the spotted owl and various other species of wildlife.

I took it upon myself to educate myself .. this is an area where compromise should not be a dirty word!  Wildlife cannot be protected if the forest are destroyed by disease, bugs and wildfire

 
 
 
Hallux
Sophomore Principal
5.3  seeder  Hallux  replied to  Colour Me Free @5    2 weeks ago
We' have protected them to death

The road to Hell is paved with the Holistic intentions of those who disagree with each other.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Junior Quiet
5.3.1  Colour Me Free  replied to  Hallux @5.3    2 weeks ago

I cannot argue that .. compromise is a nasty evil word .. but it is time to recognize that HEALTHY trees are the first line of defense against climate change.

 
 

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